NationStates Jolt Archive


Can you buy nukes and use them, or is that "not allowed

08-11-2003, 04:42
Can you buy nukes and use them, or is that "not allowed?
Kurlej
08-11-2003, 04:43
Well you can but you need proof that you did buy it.
Roania
08-11-2003, 04:43
You may.

Sure, if you do I'll wipe your nation down to the bedrock and turn it into a lake, but you may.
Kurlej
08-11-2003, 04:45
Um, okay. *walks 5 miles away from Nonage*
08-11-2003, 04:45
Can you produce your own.
Kurlej
08-11-2003, 04:46
You can but I wouldn't do it now. *walks away from Roania*
Roania
08-11-2003, 04:47
Can you produce your own.

Yes.

Same provisos as above if you use them, but feel free to make them.

Nuclear weapons are being tossed around far too often, so I'm taking a stand.
Kurlej
08-11-2003, 04:49
Ya, just about all nations that were created before October tend to have nukes.
Roania
08-11-2003, 04:50
Ya, just about all nations that were created before October tend to have nukes.

Exactly. I prefer chemical or biological weapons, or acid based missiles, etc. But no, everyone wants a nuke.

Well, no more!
08-11-2003, 04:51
You can but I wouldn't do it now. *walks away from Roania*


Why shouldn't i do it now
Kurlej
08-11-2003, 04:52
Gee I don't know maybe *cough*Roania*cough*?
Great Mateo
08-11-2003, 04:53
Meh, the nations of my region aren't big on nukes. They just have a few of the special warhead the larger nations developed a while ago stockpiled. It's like a nuke, only 100 times more powerful, and non-nuclear. Don't ask how it works here, as I'm not quite sure myself, was never too interested in them after I learned the new regional Constitution banned them for use unless 4/5 of all regional members approve of it by vote.
Roania
08-11-2003, 04:54
You can but I wouldn't do it now. *walks away from Roania*


Why shouldn't i do it now

Hundreds of little deadly pathogens are being slowly slid into missiles.

Napalm is being readied...
Kurlej
08-11-2003, 04:55
Who are you firing that at?
Slagkattunger
08-11-2003, 04:59
Post Edit:- Damn server.
Slagkattunger
08-11-2003, 04:59
ooc:- Why do you want a nuke for? Are you going to use it against another nation (Don't do it if you want to exist for much longer) or do you want to RP a nuke accident within your nation?
08-11-2003, 05:01
Who are you firing that at?

well i am not really firing at someone. It's more like "don't threaten me...i have nukes". I am not big in warfare and i think ill get started by getting a nuke. Even though i don't like (OMZ222) *shhhhhhh*
Roania
08-11-2003, 05:03
United Hiigarans
08-11-2003, 05:14
Ya, just about all nations that were created before October tend to have nukes.

Exactly. I prefer chemical or biological weapons, or acid based missiles, etc. But no, everyone wants a nuke.

Well, no more!

I prefer ion-based beams slicing through the atmosphere and turning random city to the core tempature of the sun.Much more effective then bio weapons..people tend to linger like a bad odor that way. :?
Soviet Haaregrad
08-11-2003, 06:16
We (officially)don't have nukes and Roania might wish to back down from threatening newbies or they might find our big socialist jackboot kicking in their nation's teeth.
Roania
08-11-2003, 06:18
We (officially)don't have nukes and Roania might wish to back down from threatening newbies or they might find our big socialist jackboot kicking in their nation's teeth.

You could try, except I use WMDs against all hostile soldiers that set foot on my nation's soil fairly instantly.
Soviet Haaregrad
08-11-2003, 06:22
We (officially)don't have nukes and Roania might wish to back down from threatening newbies or they might find our big socialist jackboot kicking in their nation's teeth.

You could try, except I use WMDs against all hostile soldiers that set foot on my nation's soil fairly instantly.

Well... you see... if we were to go to war we'd bomb and cruise missile your nation quite heavily. Anyways... this is dumb, I'm not going to war over you making OOC threats against a new player, but god, be more polite to the kid.
Roania
08-11-2003, 06:25
OOC: Do you want September nations to have nukes now?
Tannelorn
08-11-2003, 06:29
ummm nukes are pretty primitive technologies man, actually a piece of uraniam made in to a bullet and shot at another piece of uranium, out of a modified rifle is how the first A bomb worked, the other is c 4 over uranium...now a hydrogen bomb, thats VERY different but nukes are not Hydrogen bombs, they are NO where near as powerful
08-11-2003, 06:32
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Roania
08-11-2003, 06:36
...

MT, help me out. All these people want to give this kid a nuclear weapon.
Soviet Haaregrad
08-11-2003, 07:03
OOC: Do you want September nations to have nukes now?

Who cares? He has the population to support them. If he RPs well with it then it's fine, if not I ignore him. Where is the difficulty?
08-11-2003, 08:02
Can you buy nukes and use them, or is that "not allowed?
Open Diplomatic message to Nonage from Bureau of Foreign Affairs:

Nukes are weapons for attacking other nations, is this what you intend doing in the future?
We urge you not to buy any of these weapons, join the Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55372&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) and become part of a large protective organisation.
We will offer you protection should these weapons (or any other) be brought against you. You will not have to stand alone when defending yourself.
Please reconsider.

EOM

People’s Republic of Mega Tau (http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/megatau)
The Gulf States
08-11-2003, 08:23
I got just about everything - just in case.

Harbingers, hydrogens, Nukes, J-Bombs™*, Bio strains, chemicals, the works.


* - NS trademarked, not reality.
08-11-2003, 08:46
We (officially)don't have nukes and Roania might wish to back down from threatening newbies or they might find our big socialist jackboot kicking in their nation's teeth.

You could try, except I use WMDs against all hostile soldiers that set foot on my nation's soil fairly instantly.

If you used WMD I would destroy all your nation and its people.
Menelmacar
08-11-2003, 10:44
Nonage: Technically yeah, you could acquire a nuclear weapon, but it would pretty well break your budget at this early stage. You'll want to wait until you're about a month old or so before you start thinking along those lines.

HOWEVER

everyone and their dog has nukes and they really don't have the deterrent effect they probably should have. Much more clout is to be had through good RP, building friends and connections, careful diplomacy, and overwhelming conventional forces. Menelmacar, for example, has no WMD's save some practically-ancient VX we haven't gotten around to torching yet, and a few neutron warheads. Yet we're both respected and feared due to the effectiveness of our forces and the influence we wield. That's more what you want to aim for, and it's a lot more interesting - and fun - than just building all the n00ks you can afford.

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Clicky-clicky!
08-11-2003, 11:30
you cant actually fire a nuke its just Role Playing (right?)
The Gulf States
08-11-2003, 18:37
you cant actually fire a nuke its just Role Playing (right?)

Unless it creates an explosion the size of a thimbull.
Roania
09-11-2003, 01:07
If you used WMD I would destroy all your nation and its people.

You trying to attack me would be one of the most amusing things ever.

Hell, I might keep your president alive just to hear him make pointless threats. Or, I'd do what I always do with captured enemies and torture them, using them as chemical weapons test subjects.
Draconis Nightcrawlis
09-11-2003, 01:11
I'd do what I always do with captured enemies and torture them, using them as chemical weapons test subjects.

I think I like you now :D
Roania
09-11-2003, 01:14
I'd do what I always do with captured enemies and torture them, using them as chemical weapons test subjects.

I think I like you now :D
Thank you.

Now, sit up for your master...

<smacks you with cricket bat>

Sit up for your master...

<whack>

OOC: I need to stop watching British comedies. My sense of humor has become skewed.
Agnosticium
09-11-2003, 01:35
We like to use bromine pentafluoride (real compound). If used in an appropriate dispersal pattern, it reacts explosively with hydrous and most organic material (ie human flesh) and incapacitates of kills the subject. We use them in our AM-17 Savage anti-personnel missiles and have had great success with them. If they miss the target, the coumpnd breaks down easily and is enviornmentally "safe".
Tannelorn
09-11-2003, 01:47
hmm interesting, good thing my soldiers are all equipped in power armour. disgusting Biological weapons would only be responded with in kind, by Gamma-X ray bursts from our fission cascade arrays.
The Gulf States
09-11-2003, 07:12
We like to use bromine pentafluoride (real compound). If used in an appropriate dispersal pattern, it reacts explosively with hydrous and most organic material (ie human flesh) and incapacitates of kills the subject. We use them in our AM-17 Savage anti-personnel missiles and have had great success with them. If they miss the target, the coumpnd breaks down easily and is enviornmentally "safe".

Oh, I got to remember that one. BrF5 - thanks.
Steel Butterfly
09-11-2003, 07:28
So now Roania is considered a Vet...god...I'm getting old.

I find more and more than Steel Butterfly cannot get involved in a war, due to the fact that my tech level is too high compared to probably 95% of NS. (Rough estimate...if anything...it would be higher). Nevertheless, I find this good. If I can't fight without people shouting "GODMOD" because of my tech...then they won't attack to begin with. I haven't been in a war since May.
Steel Butterfly
09-11-2003, 07:29
We like to use bromine pentafluoride (real compound). If used in an appropriate dispersal pattern, it reacts explosively with hydrous and most organic material (ie human flesh) and incapacitates of kills the subject. We use them in our AM-17 Savage anti-personnel missiles and have had great success with them. If they miss the target, the coumpnd breaks down easily and is enviornmentally "safe".

Francium and Water bombs make excellent weapons if you can find the Francium... :roll:
Roania
09-11-2003, 07:32
So now Roania is considered a Vet...god...I'm getting old.

I find more and more than Steel Butterfly cannot get involved in a war, due to the fact that my tech level is too high compared to probably 95% of NS. (Rough estimate...if anything...it would be higher). Nevertheless, I find this good. If I can't fight without people shouting "GODMOD" because of my tech...then they won't attack to begin with. I haven't been in a war since May.

Sorry, Gramps.

Anyway, I can only think of 5 people who would attack you. There are more who could beat you, but they wouldn't bother.

*NOD
*MU
*Menel
*The Ctan
*Tor Yvresse

That's about it for space nations.
Steel Butterfly
09-11-2003, 07:42
So now Roania is considered a Vet...god...I'm getting old.

I find more and more than Steel Butterfly cannot get involved in a war, due to the fact that my tech level is too high compared to probably 95% of NS. (Rough estimate...if anything...it would be higher). Nevertheless, I find this good. If I can't fight without people shouting "GODMOD" because of my tech...then they won't attack to begin with. I haven't been in a war since May.

Sorry, Gramps.

Anyway, I can only think of 5 people who would attack you. There are more who could beat you, but they wouldn't bother.

*NOD
*MU
*Menel
*The Ctan
*Tor Yvresse

That's about it for space nations.

Ok youngin' :roll:

Naturally there are hundreds of nations larger than me...and some who could defeat me...

But you don't see it happening do you?
Steel Butterfly
09-11-2003, 07:45
And unless I'm that damn tired...

I don't even remember hearing of MU or The Ctan

also...

Menelmacar and Tor Yvresse....unless they hold some serious grudges....I haven't had a problem with them in RL months.
Roania
09-11-2003, 07:49
And unless I'm that damn tired...

I don't even remember hearing of MU or The Ctan

also...

Menelmacar and Tor Yvresse....unless they hold some serious grudges....I haven't had a problem with them in RL months.

Melkor Unchained is MU.
Steel Butterfly
09-11-2003, 07:54
And unless I'm that damn tired...

I don't even remember hearing of MU or The Ctan

also...

Menelmacar and Tor Yvresse....unless they hold some serious grudges....I haven't had a problem with them in RL months.

Melkor Unchained is MU.

Ah yes...so two totally different sides both wish my destruction according to you...

lucky me :roll:
Roania
09-11-2003, 08:09
That's what you get when you play the middle, according to you.

See, MU thinks that you work for Menelmacar, because didn't you apply to join CENNA?

And Tor might still be angry with you for threatening me.
Steel Butterfly
10-11-2003, 01:38
That's what you get when you play the middle, according to you.

See, MU thinks that you work for Menelmacar, because didn't you apply to join CENNA?

And Tor might still be angry with you for threatening me.

Ah...but play it well I do :twisted: