NationStates Jolt Archive

In light of recent debates in the General and UN forums, I have come up with an idea.

How many of your would join me if I created a Region free of liberals, where decent conservatives could unite together and actually be heard, without being shut up by liberals or political correctness.

This region would of course only be for decent conservatives... no neo-nazis or ethnic cleansers or anything uber-extreme like that. This would be a region for those who oppose gay marriage, abortion, drugs, extreme seperation of church and state, gun control laws, police restrainment, and all the other issues a normal conservative would oppose.

This would be a place where majority rules, not the minority.

I have yet to see a region that brings this together.

So how many of you would join if I were to create such a region?

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Sounds like Armageddon. ;) Although we do have some liberals here...I don't know why they want to be in our conservative region...

If I wasn't already settled down in Armageddon, I might be interested. :)

I don't think Armageddon is what I'm shooting for. No left wingers at all, and no far right wingers. basically, anyone with civil rights above "good" would instantly be kicked out :P and any IC Psychotic dictatorships or socialist states would be kicked out too. Communism would be dealt with on a case by case basis... why? because it is possible to have non-evil communism :P but its really hard to get a whole nation to do that, so they'd probably be kicked out too.

This wouild be just for conservative nations.

Can anyone think of a name? :P

My ideas:
*The Realm of Righteousness
Conservative Convention
The Wheel of Morality :P
The Enemies of Natural Men

I dunno, sugestions? favorites?

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:hah, texas, right, site of the Gay-Only private schools... uh huh, I -really- want to be like them... *roll*

As long as this region did not embrace descent to the levels of authoritarianism, but rather acted on freedoms and moral decency, the people of Palania would be most interested in joining.

curious, what is authoritarianism? Do you mean a government where someone makes every choice for you and keeps you under lock and chains and monitors your every move and refers to you as "human resources" then heck no. This would merely be a region where Righteousness is not mocked or looked down upon, where the people who are Moral and Righteous are looked UP to instead of down on.

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:hah, texas, right, site of the Gay-Only private schools... uh huh, I -really- want to be like them... *roll*

I thought that was New York.
Oh well, here are a few more name suggestions:
Bushtopia
Republicandia
Spendmoreonthemilitarythanpublicschoolsia

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:hah, texas, right, site of the Gay-Only private schools... uh huh, I -really- want to be like them... *roll*

I thought that was New York.
Oh well, here are a few more name suggestions:
Bushtopia
Republicandia
SpendmoreonthemilitarythanpublicschoolsiaYet another good issue. Personally, I think schools should be funded a great deal more. Teachers are waay underpaid, and schools are underfunded. i don't know if everyone in this region will feel this way, but I most certainly do.

yawl know a liberal is a follower of Adam Smith's Liberalist theory, right?or in other words, you lot.

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:hah, texas, right, site of the Gay-Only private schools... uh huh, I -really- want to be like them... *roll*

I thought that was New York.
Oh well, here are a few more name suggestions:
Bushtopia
Republicandia
Spendmoreonthemilitarythanpublicschoolsia

The one in New York is the first public.

yawl know a liberal is a follower of Adam Smith's Liberalist theory, right?or in other words, you lot.i don't care. to me a liberal is anyone who thinks that everything should be legal and people should be free to do whatever they want... that's a very basic definition.

i don't care. to me a liberal is anyone who thinks that everything should be legal and people should be free to do whatever they want... that's a very basic definition

I dont want to take this offtopic, but I am very curious as to why you feel that is bad.

I'm not saying that this is right or a good thing, but if liberals thought people should make their own choices, business owners would be allowed to segregate, as they were the main opponents of this policy.

I'm not going to define liberal, I already defined what I want to see in this region, I don't have to write an essay as to what I believe a liberal is... that would be a waste of time and off-topic.

This would be a place where majority rules, not the minority.

i'd be interested to see where your beliefs are in the majority. let's recall your boy Bush got a MINORITY of the votes. and that the economic interests you represent are the economic interests of less than 1% of any given population. or that you are, essentially, for allowing those who you choose are unacceptably differant rot while your tyranny of white bread know-nothings runs the country into the ground to raise their stock one quarter of one point.

seriously, let me guess if it's not to presumptuous. white, suburbs, PMC parents, wouldn't know how to be culturally sensitive if it jumped down your throat. of course you don't have to be culturally sensitive, you make a point of isolating yourself from that which is truly differant from yourself. it makes you uncomfortable to see the world in a differant way, it disturbs the monolith of certainty that has kept you so comfortable for so long.

rant done, toodles.

This would be a place where majority rules, not the minority.

i'd be interested to see where your beliefs are in the majority. let's recall your boy Bush got a MINORITY of the votes. and that the economic interests you represent are the economic interests of less than 1% of any given population. or that you are, essentially, for allowing those who you choose are unacceptably differant rot while your tyranny of white bread know-nothings runs the country into the ground to raise their stock one quarter of one point.

seriously, let me guess if it's not to presumptuous. white, suburbs, PMC parents, wouldn't know how to be culturally sensitive if it jumped down your throat. of course you don't have to be culturally sensitive, you make a point of isolating yourself from that which is truly differant from yourself. it makes you uncomfortable to see the world in a differant way, it disturbs the monolith of certainty that has kept you so comfortable for so long.

rant done, toodles.psst.. we're in nationstates here, not in general... Bush has problems that I don't necessarily agree with, on the other hand he has done a lot of stuff to make me like him... but we aren't talking about Bush here, are we.


Anyway, I think I'll start this Region, can anyone vote on or suggest a name? lol otherwise I'll just pick one.

seriously, let me guess if it's not to presumptuous. white, suburbs, PMC parents, wouldn't know how to be culturally sensitive if it jumped down your throat. of course you don't have to be culturally sensitive, you make a point of isolating yourself from that which is truly differant from yourself. it makes you uncomfortable to see the world in a differant way, it disturbs the monolith of certainty that has kept you so comfortable for so long.

rant done, toodles.

Interesting, prejudiced, but interesting. Speaking as a white person (mostly) who lives in the suburbs I would have to say that you are wrong. You are as bad as the mythological people you are ranting against. Not all of the folks in the 'burbs are as narrow minded as you seem to think. You should limit your rants to individual people that you know, and avoid becomming the beast that you rant against.

seriously, let me guess if it's not to presumptuous. white, suburbs, PMC parents, wouldn't know how to be culturally sensitive if it jumped down your throat. of course you don't have to be culturally sensitive, you make a point of isolating yourself from that which is truly differant from yourself. it makes you uncomfortable to see the world in a differant way, it disturbs the monolith of certainty that has kept you so comfortable for so long.

rant done, toodles.

Interesting, prejudiced, but interesting. Speaking as a white person (mostly) who lives in the suburbs I would have to say that you are wrong. You are as bad as the mythological people you are ranting against. Not all of the folks in the 'burbs are as narrow minded as you seem to think. You should limit your rants to individual people that you know, and avoid becomming the beast that you rant against.seconded... this guy is clearly as brainwashed as he says we are...

Speaking as a white person (mostly) who lives in the suburbs I would have to say that you are wrong.

HA! i was talking to Raysia, not you. there's an entire class of people who make their point never to see anything differant, and those people generally become conservative because they seek to ensure the tiny worldview they live in will continue to exist.

was NOT talking to you. talking to Raysia. not you.

i could go into Critical Race Theory, the flaws of a rights based approach to ethnic tension, or perhaps the hyperreal creation of the nuclear family and how it affected the development of a political lobby lobbying for something that doesn't exist but that's not what i wanted to say.

wanted to tell Raysia he's white bread. that's it.

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:hah, texas, right, site of the Gay-Only private schools... uh huh, I -really- want to be like them... *roll*

Bitch you best lay off Texas. We may have gay only private schools, but we also got an express line to the chair. Damn LDS, wouldnt know a good conservative if one sat on your face.

Speaking as a white person (mostly) who lives in the suburbs I would have to say that you are wrong.

HA! i was talking to Raysia, not you. there's an entire class of people who make their point never to see anything differant, and those people generally become conservative because they seek to ensure the tiny worldview they live in will continue to exist.

was NOT talking to you. talking to Raysia. not you.

i could go into Critical Race Theory, the flaws of a rights based approach to ethnic tension, or perhaps the hyperreal creation of the nuclear family and how it affected the development of a political lobby lobbying for something that doesn't exist but that's not what i wanted to say.

wanted to tell Raysia he's white bread. that's it.Umm... you think I'm a redneck, don't you. You think I think I am better than everyone else just because I was born in a better situation... wrrooooonnng. Well, I was born in a better situation probably, being in a functional middle class suburban family, but I most certainly know what its like to be treated differently because of your beliefs. I mean heck, i'm a Mormon, we haven't gone a day without persecution since we were founded.

I do not think one race is better than another, and I will not allow any racists in this region. i do believe certain cultures are better than another though. Some think you should do whatever you want, some think that you should adhere to a strict list of rules, and some people believe you should strive to be better than you are, resisting natural urges and tendancies to achieve something much higher. I hold to the latter.

Now quit assuming stuff. if you don't want to join this region, then don't.

Limbaughland
Rushonia
Texas :wink:hah, texas, right, site of the Gay-Only private schools... uh huh, I -really- want to be like them... *roll*

Bitch you best lay off Texas. We may have gay only private schools, but we also got an express line to the chair. Damn LDS, wouldnt know a good conservative if one sat on your face.lol dude, I was kidding, do you think I would actually knock texas simply because some liberals started something? :P

And don't be makin fun of no mormons here :P

seriously guys, I need a name, I want to get this thing started.

Realm of Righteousness is kinda cheesy, but if no one else has a better name, I'm goin for it :P

HA! i was talking to Raysia, not you. there's an entire class of people who make their point never to see anything differant, and those people generally become conservative because they seek to ensure the tiny worldview they live in will continue to exist.

Ha! back. Your post was insulting not just to the person that you aimed it at but to all of the people struck by it's braod strokes.
To your second point, people become conservative for as many reasons as they become liberal.
And while we are on this point (please forgive the thread jacking) the terms liberal and conservative are to easily thrown around these days. They have become meaningless media buzz words. Please try to give a better definition rather than simply throwing out lables.


was NOT talking to you. talking to Raysia. not you.

Again, broad strokes do not hit only one target.


i could go into Critical Race Theory, the flaws of a rights based approach to ethnic tension, or perhaps the hyperreal creation of the nuclear family and how it affected the development of a political lobby lobbying for something that doesn't exist but that's not what i wanted to say.

Wow, those were a lot of really nice words. I hope you really do know what you are talking about. Political philosophy, is still just philosophy and mostly meaningless to realists, such as myself.


wanted to tell Raysia he's white bread. that's it.

Oh, so you just wanted to throw out racial slurs and be insulting. Interesting way to make your point.

bump.

anyone got a name yet? :)

let's recall your boy Bush got a MINORITY of the votes.

Not to carry this hijacking too far, but... so did every other candidate.

let's recall your boy Bush got a MINORITY of the votes.

Not to carry this hijacking too far, but... so did every other candidate.No kidding, its called an electoral college.

name? :P

to me a liberal is anyone who thinks that everything should be legal and people should be free to do whatever they want... that's a very basic definition.

<OOC>Actually, that'd be a Libertarian.

In the US (and I presume most of the posters in this thread have been Amercians, based on the Texas/NY references), Liberal is usually defined as supporting individual rights in personal matters, and group rights in economic matters, while Conservatives are the reverse. Or to put it another way, Liberals prefer that the government regulate economic matters, but that the government not regulate personal matters; while Conservatives generally prefer the reverse.

Those who believe that the government should not regulate anything at all are Libertarians; those who believe that the government should regulate everything, completely, are Authoritarians.

I'm not advocating any of those positions. Raysia's intial call for a conservative-only region seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Of course, this region proposal by Defari (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66355) seemed perfectly reasonable to me, and I suspect that it didn't to Raysia...</OOC>

to me a liberal is anyone who thinks that everything should be legal and people should be free to do whatever they want... that's a very basic definition.

<OOC>Actually, that'd be a Libertarian.

In the US (and I presume most of the posters in this thread have been Amercians, based on the Texas/NY references), Liberal is usually defined as supporting individual rights in personal matters, and group rights in economic matters, while Conservatives are the reverse. Or to put it another way, Liberals prefer that the government regulate economic matters, but that the government not regulate personal matters; while Conservatives generally prefer the reverse.

Those who believe that the government should not regulate anything at all are Libertarians; those who believe that the government should regulate everything, completely, are Authoritarians.

I'm not advocating any of those positions. Raysia's intial call for a conservative-only region seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Of course, this region proposal by Defari (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66355) seemed perfectly reasonable to me, and I suspect that it didn't to Raysia...</OOC>Thanks.

As for that region though... Raysia's Player is white... i doubt he'd be accepted well in an all-black region...

This would be a place where majority rules, not the minority.

i'd be interested to see where your beliefs are in the majority. let's recall your boy Bush got a MINORITY of the votes. and that the economic interests you represent are the economic interests of less than 1% of any given population. or that you are, essentially, for allowing those who you choose are unacceptably differant rot while your tyranny of white bread know-nothings runs the country into the ground to raise their stock one quarter of one point.

seriously, let me guess if it's not to presumptuous. white, suburbs, PMC parents, wouldn't know how to be culturally sensitive if it jumped down your throat. of course you don't have to be culturally sensitive, you make a point of isolating yourself from that which is truly differant from yourself. it makes you uncomfortable to see the world in a differant way, it disturbs the monolith of certainty that has kept you so comfortable for so long.

rant done, toodles.

Bush got the majority of votes, the electoral college along with the absentee ballots caused a big problem. We could have gone into recounts a million times over, he won, he still won after how many recounts, case closed.

Second, your personal attacks don't make you seem any smarter do they? The national GDP jumped to the highest its been in a long time, whether that was because of the tax cut or not is debatable.

Finally, hes creating a region where the minority don't bow to the majority, this means political correctness goes out the window, schools that have the asian club and the african american club will no longer be banned from having a caucasian club, a more recent case, where two school clubs, Young Republicans, and Christian Athletes were forbidden from creating floats for a parade because they apparently thought it would cause dissent. This is what political correctness stands for, not for cultural diversity, not for celebration of ALL cultures, just the adjulation of small groups that often times are a severe minority while telling the majority, especially in America which happens to be caucasian, christian, peoples, they should be ashamed of who they are. PC is not culturally sensitive, its repressive, extreme leftists often times will opress the majority who's culture stems from their European roots because apparently, you can't be a racists unless your white.

The entire agenda it seems of extreme lefts and rights seems to be the complete disintigration of the entire base that this country was founded on Seocc, neither side does any good, by far, the majority of Americans are either independants or moderate left or right, they were absolutely sick of the completely oblivious rule of far leftists for since George Bush senior, the economy has very little to do with the president in the first place, all he can do is raise of lower taxes, and as we would expect, both followed their traditional party premise, Clinton raised them, Bush cut them, in my own opinion Clinton recieved completely undue adjulation as a great diplomat, his entire foriegn policy consisted of giving whatever tinpot dictatorship that threatened the US anything they wanted to make them go away, he wasn't a wonderous believer in the UN either, seeing as he tried to avert a second holocaust in Kosovo by UNILATERALLY bombing the area, he barely went through congress, but naturally since you are so obviously blinded by complete partisanship, you didn't bother to discover that. This is my opinion fair and simple.

Telegram Raysia for the password if you want to join!