NationStates Jolt Archive

The world is rife with Heresy and Blashpemy. It has devolved into a cold dark place, devoid of faith and justice. Foul creature roam the Earth, corrupting the Human spirit. The world has entered a dark age and the evil must be purged for the better good of humanity and the greater glory of God. As of today Belem declares itself the Sole defender of the Catholic Faith and the Catholic World.

Um, there are several nations, in communion with the pope, which might disagree with you on that statement.

Indeed.

King Alern

Um, there are several nations, in communion with the pope, which might disagree with you on that statement.

Explain.

ooc: So, if we have a problem with religious aspects, you come and solve it for us?

ooc: yeah. and I also invade nations who make a bit to do about outlawing catholicism.

Um, there are several nations, in communion with the pope, which might disagree with you on that statement.

Explain.

Well, I'm a Catholic nation, Territora (I think), then there is Pantocratoria, the Catholics of Excalbia, Holy Latin Empire, Jerusalem, etc.

*outlaws catholicism*

This has been an ooc statement. Due to background purposes, i can`t outlaw it. Oh well...

None of them rise up and liberate the heathern masses when they insult the Holy Church.

None of them rise up and liberate the heathern masses when they insult the Holy Church.

Um... consider who you are talking to.

I chemwhip the Heathen masses when they insult the Holy Church.

We will not tolerate any attempt to invade our nation based purely on religious matters. The State is avowedly atheist, and shall remain that way.

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

What exactly do you mean by 'lesser species'?

demi humans, elves and the like.

demi humans, elves and the like.

OOC : I run a human nation, not a fantasy-style one.

None of them rise up and liberate the heathern masses when they insult the Holy Church.

I didn't see you going to war with Galdania and rescueing hundreds of thousand of christians from a communist goverment of a country more than Teritora's size size with mideavil weaponary and ships.

OOC: I went to war with Galdania once with about 3 other nations turned into an ignore fest.

What if we arent a religious nation BUT we allow Catholicism (well to say we allow it is weird since we "allow" all religions)?

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

"Christians fighting each other for supremacy?, interesting, and amusing. Please give them some motives to keep it on".

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral.

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

Hmm... Belem, with your assistance, I would like to chemwhip his citizens.

He said that he would not let them in unless they were non-religious, not that he would kill them.

So, really, your chemwhipping would be un-justified.

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

Hmm... Belem, with your assistance, I would like to chemwhip his citizens.

See the region, Global Confederation. And the nation, Allied Planets, which is a space-faring nation. My allies. Anyway, you have no right to try and dictate to the State how we govern our people.

He said that he would not let them in unless they were non-religious, not that he would kill them.

So, really, your chemwhipping would be un-justified.

Exactly.

What if we arent a religious nation BUT we allow Catholicism (well to say we allow it is weird since we "allow" all religions)?

thats allowed.

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

Hmm... Belem, with your assistance, I would like to chemwhip his citizens.

I would definately help you.

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

Hmm... Belem, with your assistance, I would like to chemwhip his citizens.

See the region, Global Confederation. And the nation, Allied Planets, which is a space-faring nation. My allies. Anyway, you have no right to try and dictate to the State how we govern our people.

*Cough*
Principality of Roania

Member: Corporate Coalition
Member: ESIEUS
Member: PDP
Member: SAVIOUR
Member: Imperialist League of Gentlemen
Former Member, but close ally of remaining members: Galactic Alliance
Associate member of: CENNA
Associate Member of: Protectorates of Tor Yvresse
Minion of: Menelmacar

OOC: By the way, CG. You confuse me for a nice person.

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

Hmm... Belem, with your assistance, I would like to chemwhip his citizens.

See the region, Global Confederation. And the nation, Allied Planets, which is a space-faring nation. My allies. Anyway, you have no right to try and dictate to the State how we govern our people.

*Cough*
Principality of Roania

Member: Corporate Coalition
Member: ESIEUS
Member: PDP
Member: SAVIOUR
Member: Imperialist League of Gentlemen
Former Member, but close ally of remaining members: Galactic Alliance
Associate member of: CENNA
Associate Member of: Protectorates of Tor Yvresse
Minion of: Menelmacar

OOC: By the way, CG. You confuse me for a nice person.

OOC: hah hah, no, not really, :lol:

Another day, another "sole defender of the Catholic faith."

Here's a thought. Why don't all people who unilaterally declare themselves El Supremo Catholic attend Pantocratoria's Great Council of the Universal Church.

-- signed, a majority Catholic nation with no pretensions to be in charge of any other Catholic nations

But do you allow no Christians in your nation? or allow lesser species?

Anyway, to answer your first question, no-one can become a citizen unless they agree to atheism.

OOC: I am anti-religion anyway, I just dont like the idea.

Hmm... Belem, with your assistance, I would like to chemwhip his citizens.

See the region, Global Confederation. And the nation, Allied Planets, which is a space-faring nation. My allies. Anyway, you have no right to try and dictate to the State how we govern our people.

*Cough*
Principality of Roania

Member: Corporate Coalition
Member: ESIEUS
Member: PDP
Member: SAVIOUR
Member: Imperialist League of Gentlemen
Former Member, but close ally of remaining members: Galactic Alliance
Associate member of: CENNA
Associate Member of: Protectorates of Tor Yvresse
Minion of: Menelmacar

OOC: By the way, CG. You confuse me for a nice person.

OOC : Whatever, I dont really care. I didnt get into this argument to start a war, it was just to put across my view.

Belem, be caustious of what you try to do and try to force your ways on other people. You have officially been warned to let people be who people want to be.

The world is rife with Heresy and Blashpemy. It has devolved into a cold dark place, devoid of faith and justice. Foul creature roam the Earth, corrupting the Human spirit. The world has entered a dark age and the evil must be purged for the better good of humanity and the greater glory of God. As of today Belem declares itself the Sole defender of the Catholic Faith and the Catholic World.

OOC: Do you play Europa Universalis II?

The Holy Empress has expressed her disappointment that Belem would decide to declare itself "Sole Defender of the Faith". The Empire of Tranquillitis believes that all Catholic nations should work together and not compete amongst themselves for power.

-Erik Montpelier
Imperial Advisor, Foreign Division

Hmm... How does Belem feel about Orthodox Faith? And what of Peacefull Buhdism?

The world is rife with Heresy and Blashpemy. It has devolved into a cold dark place, devoid of faith and justice. Foul creature roam the Earth, corrupting the Human spirit. The world has entered a dark age and the evil must be purged for the better good of humanity and the greater glory of God. As of today Belem declares itself the Sole defender of the Catholic Faith and the Catholic World.

OOC: Do you play Europa Universalis II?

OOC: yep.

What if we arent a religious nation BUT we allow Catholicism (well to say we allow it is weird since we "allow" all religions)?

thats allowed.

OOC:I thought "there is only one church the others heracy" and allowing Catholics to be perverted by other religions would be a larger insult?

IC: "The actions of Belem are heracy! The role as gaurdian of the Catholic faith is held by his holiness the Pope* alone. We demand you rcant and beg the Virgens' forgiveness."

Cardinal Ferdinand Apsotile
Spirtual Adviser to the President

*Not the nation

Hmm... How does Belem feel about Orthodox Faith? And what of Peacefull Buhdism?


Ortodox: fine with it they are just schismatics. It would be better if they became Catholics but they follow Jesus and thats what matters.

Buddhists: They dont follow Jesus. enough said.

But Buddhists are peaceful, and they do not try to convert Christians... They cannot be a threat to Catholicism, and trying to destroy the Peaceful Religion would be an atrocity...

What if we arent a religious nation BUT we allow Catholicism (well to say we allow it is weird since we "allow" all religions)?

thats allowed.

OOC:I thought "there is only one church the others heracy" and allowing Catholics to be perverted by other religions would be a larger insult?

IC: "The actions of Belem are heracy! The role as gaurdian of the Catholic faith is held by his holiness the Pope* alone. We demand you rcant and beg the Virgens' forgiveness."

Cardinal Ferdinand Apsotile
Spirtual Adviser to the President

*Not the nation

OOC: Its pretty much this way: The Church, schismatics, Jews, pagans, heretics(because they should know better)

IC: On the contrary nations throughout History have been given the title Defender of the Faith.

But Buddhists are peaceful, and they do not try to convert Christians... They cannot be a threat to Catholicism, and trying to destroy the Peaceful Religion would be an atrocity...

they follow Pagan practices. Pagans have to be converted/dealt with for the better good.

IC: On the contrary nations throughout History have been given the title Defender of the Faith

He's right. Case in piont: The Holy Roman Empire.

Yes but by the Pope.

But Buddhists are peaceful, and they do not try to convert Christians... They cannot be a threat to Catholicism, and trying to destroy the Peaceful Religion would be an atrocity...

they follow Pagan practices. Pagans have to be converted/dealt with for the better good.

In that case, what do you intend to do to people of other religions in your nation, whom refuse to convert? We are also interested in your policy on Demihumans, which you seem to consider a lower form of life.

Yes but by the Pope.

Indeed, to act without the concent of the Pope is heracy. The recanting offer is still open.

The Sultanate is neutral on this issue.

However, it is our perogative to remind Belem of allied action between our nations on previous matters (OOC: Uhh.... remember that Civil War thread? I had, like, five mill. population back then....) and our agreed stance against the dual threats of communism and atheism.

But Buddhists are peaceful, and they do not try to convert Christians... They cannot be a threat to Catholicism, and trying to destroy the Peaceful Religion would be an atrocity...

they follow Pagan practices. Pagans have to be converted/dealt with for the better good.

In that case, what do you intend to do to people of other religions in your nation, whom refuse to convert? We are also interested in your policy on Demihumans, which you seem to consider a lower form of life.

My nation only has Catholics in it.

Demi Humans have no rights, they cant be considered civilians or citizens only foreigners. Most however are killed by the general population who consider them devils.

Technically, Muslims are deists, thus you can't call us Pagans....

While we find this policy to be quite appaling, we do not wish for conflict to form between our two nations, there for, we simply ask your leadership to reconsider the issue in the future. Hopefully this will lead to a solution that pleases everyone.

Technically, Muslims are deists, thus you can't call us Pagans....

Well they can call you Infidels it would be a correct term since you are to them nonbelivers.

Technically, Muslims are deists, thus you can't call us Pagans....

Well they can call you Infidels it would be a correct term since you are to them nonbelivers.

True, but infidel comes from an Arabic word..... I would suggest they get their own damn slurs.... ^_^

No I do belive its from the latin word Infidelitas and the Old french word, Infidele the derived from the latin word. So if anything the Arab stole it.

Yay! The wackos are fighting themselves! Maybe they'll wipe themselves out, and we can all be atheists!

Yay! The wackos are fighting themselves! Maybe they'll wipe themselves out, and we can all be atheists!

I agree, Atheist high-five!

And maybe all the athiests will get a soul, eithics and morality and see the errors of their ways.

Zerni shinto priest.

Well, Menelmacar isn't atheist... but we're not wackos either. ;)

I find it amusing that a nation that cannot even keep its trade from being Interdicted would presume to think itself capable of defending a religion. I also find it amusing that Belem would have the policies towards Elves that it has, considering that Belem would not exist today had Menelmacari forces not crushed the GLA almost singlehandedly.

Belem is a nation of ingrates, hypocrites, and murderers.

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No I do belive its from the latin word Infidelitas and the Old french word, Infidele the derived from the latin word. So if anything the Arab stole it.

If I spoke Arabic, I'd fight you for this..... but I have to concede..... for now..... *fades into the shadows, rubbing hands menacingly* :P

Belem, why not send a representative to the Council of the Catholic Church: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85354

OOC:I looked it up in the New Lexicon Dictionary. the word is derived from a old french word which is derived from the Latin word I metioned. Besides I took latin for three years.

Well, Menelmacar isn't atheist... but we're not wackos either. ;)

I find it amusing that a nation that cannot even keep its trade from being Interdicted would presume to think itself capable of defending a religion. I also find it amusing that Belem would have the policies towards Elves that it has, considering that Belem would not exist today had Menelmacari forces not crushed the GLA almost singlehandedly.

Belem is a nation of ingrates, hypocrites, and murderers.

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technicallly bison saved me.

and i have very simple ways to get around the interdiction.

Maraka fights the 'twin evils of atheism and communism'? We should try to instigate something in Maraka...

'Spread the Light of Darkness'

:twisted:

OOC:I looked it up in the New Lexicon Dictionary. the word is derived from a old french word which is derived from the Latin word I metioned. Besides I took latin for three years.

Well, I only know what my History teacher told me...... in 7th Grade.... so I guess it's not totally reliable information.....

Ignore that name..... it's a nation I'm not RPing with....

OOC:I looked it up in the New Lexicon Dictionary. the word is derived from a old french word which is derived from the Latin word I metioned. Besides I took latin for three years.

Well, I only know what my History teacher told me...... in 7th Grade.... so I guess it's not totally reliable information.....

My 7th grade teacher told me aliens ran the government and were manipulated the stockmarket to take over the Eurpean Union.

OOC:I looked it up in the New Lexicon Dictionary. the word is derived from a old french word which is derived from the Latin word I metioned. Besides I took latin for three years.

Well, I only know what my History teacher told me...... in 7th Grade.... so I guess it's not totally reliable information.....

My 7th grade teacher told me aliens ran the government and were manipulated the stockmarket to take over the Eurpean Union.


I make it a point never to believe anything my history teachers tell me. They are either all completely inept or trying to just boast about their on beliefs on the situation.

OOC:I looked it up in the New Lexicon Dictionary. the word is derived from a old french word which is derived from the Latin word I metioned. Besides I took latin for three years.

Well, I only know what my History teacher told me...... in 7th Grade.... so I guess it's not totally reliable information.....

My 7th grade teacher told me aliens ran the government and were manipulated the stockmarket to take over the Eurpean Union.


I make it a point never to believe anything my history teachers tell me. They are either all completely inept or trying to just boast about their on beliefs on the situation.

Ditto, they are also those who failed at having a real histroy related job

Well, Menelmacar isn't atheist... but we're not wackos either. ;)

I find it amusing that a nation that cannot even keep its trade from being Interdicted would presume to think itself capable of defending a religion. I also find it amusing that Belem would have the policies towards Elves that it has, considering that Belem would not exist today had Menelmacari forces not crushed the GLA almost singlehandedly.

Belem is a nation of ingrates, hypocrites, and murderers.

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technicallly bison saved me.

and i have very simple ways to get around the interdiction.
Perhaps, but Menelmacar did most of the work. At the very least you owe us gratitude.

~Siri

OOC: if the server didnt delete posts from back then I would bring up exactly what happened.

IC: All Menelmacar did was ask that the groups come to the peace terms. But in fact Bison was scheduling a full scale invasion of GLA and would of forced them to sign peace terms, as they had to withdraw there troops to defend the homeland.

I always liked my Science and History teachers...they were socialists. :D

I always liked my Science and History teachers...they were socialists. :D

My science teachers are conservatives, I reckon they believe the universe revolves arounf the earth still.

My drama and history teachers are like radical liberals* though.



*Bit of an oxymoron

I always liked my Science and History teachers...they were socialists. :D

My science teachers are conservatives, I reckon they believe the universe revolves arounf the earth still.

My drama and history teachers are like radical liberals* though.



*Bit of an oxymoron

My health teachers were radical liberals. One threatened to fail me saying I wasnt compassionate enough.

I always liked my Science and History teachers...they were socialists. :D

My science teachers are conservatives, I reckon they believe the universe revolves arounf the earth still.

My drama and history teachers are like radical liberals* though.



*Bit of an oxymoron

My health teachers were radical liberals. One threatened to fail me saying I wasnt compassionate enough.

One of my teachers attacked this conservative history teacher, is was funny. They were arguing over Thomas Hobbes

I like Hobbes

I like Hobbes

He did define a good deal of Classical Liberal Ideals

Hobbes and Machavelli=best philosphers.

Hobbes and Machavelli=best philosphers.

Sure beat Marx and Engells :o ! Did the Liberal just say that?

Hobbes and Machavelli=best philosphers.

Sure beat Marx and Engells :o ! Did the Liberal just say that?

Problem with Marx theory is he lists everything that should happen but doesnt even hint at a way to do it.

Hobbes and Machavelli=best philosphers.

Sure beat Marx and Engells :o ! Did the Liberal just say that?

Problem with Marx theory is he lists everything that should happen but doesnt even hint at a way to do it.

True, Marx is a bit liek Nostradarmus really

Problem with Nostrademus is when everyone translates his stuff they always add extra things or change words.

Yeah, and a lot of what he says is so whacked out, you can interpret it any which-way.

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Problem with Nostrademus is when everyone translates his stuff they always add extra things or change words.

Like the bible? Wow! I've managed to insult Communists and Christians.

Bad Catholic Liberal! Bad

Indeed. The same one sentence war prediction by Nostrademus has been translated to the Nepoleanic Wars, WWI, and WWII... They say that the word Histler in the prodeiction is supposed to be Hitler... But Histler is actually what the French called the Danube river during Nostrademus' times. Another word translates into nepolean, but only if you drop 3 letter :roll:

Yeah, and a lot of what he says is so whacked out, you can interpret it any which-way.


I watched a show on the History channel about his writings and thats exactly what happened esspically with the Hitler verse. One person said it meant Attila the Hun(i think) another says it means nothing another said it was Hitler.

Indeed. The same one sentence war prediction by Nostrademus has been translated to the Nepoleanic Wars, WWI, and WWII... They say that the word Histler in the prodeiction is supposed to be Hitler... But Histler is actually what the French called the Danube river during Nostrademus' times. Another word translates into nepolean, but only if you drop 3 letter :roll:

But according to some people since the Danube river runs through Austria near where Hitler was born that means he was talking about Hitler.

Yeah, and a lot of what he says is so whacked out, you can interpret it any which-way.


I watched a show on the History channel about his writings and thats exactly what happened esspically with the Hitler verse. One person said it meant Attila the Hun(i think) another says it means nothing another said it was Hitler.

LOL!

Indeed. The same one sentence war prediction by Nostrademus has been translated to the Nepoleanic Wars, WWI, and WWII... They say that the word Histler in the prodeiction is supposed to be Hitler... But Histler is actually what the French called the Danube river during Nostrademus' times. Another word translates into nepolean, but only if you drop 3 letter :roll:

But according to some people since the Danube river runs through Austria near where Hitler was born that means he was talking about Hitler.

It's more likely he was named after the river.

Thats a possibility considering Hitler wasn't his families original last name. It was Schielstug or something like that. LOL imagine going Heil Shcielstug

It's too long. No wonder he took a stage name.

Well there's one thing I can thank Hitler for.

His Holiness, Pope Pius XIII, sends you his greetings, and thanks you for your loyal defense of our holy mother the Catholic Church, and asks for your alliance with our empire.

we're a little off topic aren't we?

His Holiness, Pope Pius XIII, sends you his greetings, and thanks you for your loyal defense of our holy mother the Catholic Church, and asks for your alliance with our empire.

OOC: Pius the XIII is a heritic and traitor of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, as are all those who call themselves Vatican I.

His Holiness, Pope Pius XIII, sends you his greetings, and thanks you for your loyal defense of our holy mother the Catholic Church, and asks for your alliance with our empire.

OOC: Pius the XIII is a heritic and traitor of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, as are all those who call themselves Vatican I.

OOC: whos Pius the XIII? I thought the last Pius was the twelth.

His Holiness, Pope Pius XIII, sends you his greetings, and thanks you for your loyal defense of our holy mother the Catholic Church, and asks for your alliance with our empire.

OOC: Pius the XIII is a heritic and traitor of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, as are all those who call themselves Vatican I.

OOC: whos Pius the XIII? I thought the last Pius was the twelth.

When John XXIII held the Vatican council to modernise the church many cahnges were including masses to be read in English or native tongoue instead of latin. This caused the Church to split into Vatican II, those who follow the true Pope and the new teachings of the Church and Vatican, those who are stuck in the past. For many years Vatican Is lost members bacause they had no Pope. So in a dingy and cheap hotel they corwned the false poe Pius XIII.

do they even have churchs? The only churchs I see are official Roman Catholic Churchs. no vatican I churchs.

do they even have churchs? The only churchs I see are official Roman Catholic Churchs. no vatican I churchs.

They do not have many, they can't find enough Catholics who would betray the true Chruch. They do however have compounds where many families of Vatican I "Catholics" live....like cults.

do they even have churchs? The only churchs I see are official Roman Catholic Churchs. no vatican I churchs.

They do not have many, they can't find enough Catholics who would betray the true Chruch. They do however have compounds where many families of Vatican I "Catholics" live....like cults.

lol.

So basically all they do is given mass in latin?

My country is officially Eastern Orthodox, so I have to muddle in this: Moscow is the true holy city!

do they even have churchs? The only churchs I see are official Roman Catholic Churchs. no vatican I churchs.

They do not have many, they can't find enough Catholics who would betray the true Chruch. They do however have compounds where many families of Vatican I "Catholics" live....like cults.

lol.

So basically all they do is given mass in latin?

That and not let there wives have jobs. They are pretty much the way people were in the 50s.

My country is officially Eastern Orthodox, so I have to muddle in this: Moscow is the true holy city!
Technically for Eastern Orthodox isnt Constantinople the main holy city? Thats where the head Patriach sits.

Constantanople, or rather Istanbul, was the head of Eastern Orthodox... But after the Turkish capture of the city, they outlawed Eastern Orthodox. Then the Eastern Orthodox religion re-located to Moscow. Which then became known as "The Third Rome"

My country is officially Eastern Orthodox, so I have to muddle in this: Moscow is the true holy city!
Technically for Eastern Orthodox isnt Constantinople the main holy city? Thats where the head Patriach sits.

Aren't there several Orthodox churches, Greek, Russian, Serbian ect?

Yes, but they're all classified as "Eastern Orthodox"

The main ones are: Greek, Armenian, and Russian...

Dont they still have their main church in Istanbul though? Because I thought they considered the head Patriach the Patriach of Constantinople.

I think that's just his title. Istanbul is now Muslim.. The great Orthodox Monolithic Cathedrals have been turned Islamic for nearly 1000 years now... They couldn't even build their own Mosques, they had to spit on Christianity, and referbish the Orthodox Cathedrals!

Christians from the same time period certainly weren't much better..... if at all..... in fact, they weren't.....

You have a piont there... You know on one of the Crusades, the Crusaders actually SACKED the allied city of Constantanople, because they didn't supply them right or something... I think that was the 4th or 2nd Crusade...

I think that's just his title. Istanbul is now Muslim.. The great Orthodox Monolithic Cathedrals have been turned Islamic for nearly 1000 years now... They couldn't even build their own Mosques, they had to spit on Christianity, and referbish the Orthodox Cathedrals!

True, that must have been a big insult to the Orthodox Church.

OOC:
Uh... menelmacar, you did nothing. I nuked GLA because he used terrorist deliever nukes, then he talked peace.

I am sure the Patriarch is back in that huge church that is in Istanbul, I think so anyway.

You have a piont there... You know on one of the Crusades, the Crusaders actually SACKED the allied city of Constantanople, because they didn't supply them right or something... I think that was the 4th or 2nd Crusade...

4th ... 1204-1261

I am sure the Patriarch is back in that huge church that is in Istanbul, I think so anyway.
OOC: Nope, he's not back in the Hagia Sophia, which is now a mosque.

The Eastern Orthodox churches aren't all headed up by one Patriarch. In theory they acknowledge the Pope as being the head of the Church... in theory. Patriarchs always existed as one rank beneath the Pope before the Schism in 1054. The Orthodox Patriarchates are all in communion with one another, but no one Patriarch is superior to all others, in theory at least, they are all the same. The Russian Orthodox Church has had its own Patriarch since the 1500s I believe.

The Fourth Crusade is the Crusade which sacked Constantinople. It established the Latin Empire of Constantinople, and forced the Latin rite on the churches of Constantinople. They created the Latin Patriarch of Constantinople (a title which may still exist, I'm not sure, it certainly existed for some time after the crusaders lost the city). This all occured in 1204. Eventually the Byzantines recaptured Constantinople and reinstated the Greek rite and Greek Patriarch of Constantinople.

I am sure the Patriarch is back in that huge church that is in Istanbul, I think so anyway.
OOC: Nope, he's not back in the Hagia Sophia, which is now a mosque.

The Eastern Orthodox churches aren't all headed up by one Patriarch. In theory they acknowledge the Pope as being the head of the Church... in theory. Patriarchs always existed as one rank beneath the Pope before the Schism in 1054. The Orthodox Patriarchates are all in communion with one another, but no one Patriarch is superior to all others, in theory at least, they are all the same. The Russian Orthodox Church has had its own Patriarch since the 1500s I believe.

The Fourth Crusade is the Crusade which sacked Constantinople. It established the Latin Empire of Constantinople, and forced the Latin rite on the churches of Constantinople. They created the Latin Patriarch of Constantinople (a title which may still exist, I'm not sure, it certainly existed for some time after the crusaders lost the city). This all occured in 1204. Eventually the Byzantines recaptured Constantinople and reinstated the Greek rite and Greek Patriarch of Constantinople.

Motto of the 4th crusade ... pay your bribes. Crusaders helped an Byzantine emperor into power, but he did not pay the promised gold to them. They got it themselves.

That's not exactly true... but the motto should either be "For crying out, they're Christians too, you morons!" or "There's no such thing as an impregnable city, you morons!".

Either way, it needs the word morons in it.

*outlaws catholicism*

This has been an ooc statement. Due to background purposes, i can`t outlaw it. Oh well...

So you didn't outlaw it. Good, I was afraid I was going to have to do something bad to you...

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

*outlaws catholocism and executes the bishops and whatnot who spoke out against the government*
The rest can work in gulags!

We will not tolerate any attempt to invade our nation based purely on religious matters. The State is avowedly atheist, and shall remain that way.

So under what circumstances will you allow an invasion then? :roll:

Jimmy 'the snake' Valantino knelt down in prayer in his chapel on his secret island base. A place of worship, of contemplation, of business. He then opened his eyes and stood up, to leave apparantly.
He thought;

"As long as I make a profit and stake in every world market and economy of any type, I dont give a rats arse who is defender of the Catholic faith."

*outlaws catholocism and executes the bishops and whatnot who spoke out against the government*
The rest can work in gulags!

Sends a boat to DT's major port.

Can we have some?

*outlaws catholocism and executes the bishops and whatnot who spoke out against the government*
The rest can work in gulags!

Sends a boat to DT's major port.

Can we have some?Im landlocked
*boat is shot to pieces by bisonic defenses on belemien coast*
sorry