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National Armament/GDP

imported_United Morgan
31-10-2003, 01:51
I have it decided that my entire standing military will be 1% of my population with that 1% divided as follows:
Navy: 30%
Air Force: 30%
Army: 40%
We're an island nation. I feel this is realistic.
The questions are to armament:
# of equipment to crew complement to support to command divisions. % sizes and such.
I'm also looking for equipment names/data in regards to the above.
I'd say my nation's military was a well-armed, modern, state-of-the-art fighting and defence force.
No foreign alliances as yet but what would be a good % of the 1% to devote to peacekeeping/military aid?
% of GDP? And by the way, how does a nation with X population determin a GDP anyway?
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31-10-2003, 02:05
i think support personnel is roughly half of a standing army. but that includes everybody, laundry, cooking, cleaning, maintenace, etc. command i think is about one third or a quarter of a standing army.

there is a gdp calculator somewhere. it should be in one of the stickied intro threads.

as for equip, it depends on what time frame you're playing. i've got future tech, mostly ground armour, here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66324 .

keep about quarter to a third of your troops out on peacekeeping etc. that way you have people resting, training, and doing.
imported_United Morgan
31-10-2003, 02:12
i think support personnel is roughly half of a standing army. but that includes everybody, laundry, cooking, cleaning, maintenace, etc. command i think is about one third or a quarter of a standing army.

there is a gdp calculator somewhere. it should be in one of the stickied intro threads.

as for equip, it depends on what time frame you're playing. i've got future tech, mostly ground armour, here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66324 .

keep about quarter to a third of your troops out on peacekeeping etc. that way you have people resting, training, and doing.

Thanks. I want to have a reasonably accurate military without beating the fun out of it with detail overkill. And I don't want to go out and devote to things I can't realisticly commit to. :)
imported_United Morgan
31-10-2003, 02:14
This is a good thread to cover logistics:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52356
imported_United Morgan
31-10-2003, 02:17
Why high & armies are unrealistic:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13017
imported_United Morgan
31-10-2003, 02:18
Why high & armies are unrealistic:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13017

It may be obvious but that was supposed to be "%" and not "&"...
:oops:
imported_United Morgan
31-10-2003, 02:23
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Clan Smoke Jaguar
31-10-2003, 02:25
i think support personnel is roughly half of a standing army. but that includes everybody, laundry, cooking, cleaning, maintenace, etc. command i think is about one third or a quarter of a standing army.

there is a gdp calculator somewhere. it should be in one of the stickied intro threads.

as for equip, it depends on what time frame you're playing. i've got future tech, mostly ground armour, here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66324 .

keep about quarter to a third of your troops out on peacekeeping etc. that way you have people resting, training, and doing.
Not even close. Generally, over 80% of an army's personnel are support troops, and even more if you account for the civilians directly employed.
For the air force, over 90% of the personnel are support. An aircraft will generally have 15-20 ground crew, and there's numerous other support jobs that don't deal directly with the aircraft. For a navy, I'd say that about 70-80% of the personnel aren't on the ships (this includes port crews and naval air units).
It's further compounded with navy and air force by the fact that significant portions of ships and aircraft are support units themselves.
31-10-2003, 02:30
hmm. wonder where i got the 1/2 from.
Clan Smoke Jaguar
31-10-2003, 02:58
hmm. wonder where i got the 1/2 from.
It depends on the size of the unit. At company or platoon level, almost all of the troops are combatants. At the division level, only about 25% are. And as you get higher, the proportion of noncombat personnel to combatants goes up. This isn't hard to imagine when you consider that most division, corps, and army level units are support ones. Only the 3 (average) combat brigades from a division are combatants, and even they have a decent number of support personnel (consider that a 58 tank battalion has over 600 men, while only 416 would be needed to crew the tanks).