NationStates Jolt Archive

Again we cry to all soviet states and other like minded govts, join a union and unite against the enemies of our beliefs! The organisation of a soviet union is best suited to our needs, and as such we must form a central commitee to govern our soviets. Only through solidarity can we win! To the republic of soviet states!
Regards

This makes us sick, we shall always resist Red influences, long live Democratic rule!!!

As anarchists we do do not wish to jion your union, but we offer you support trade and goodwill in this bold socialist effort.

Ah you again. You really dont kno the state of the world do you? noticed u had no arguement to retaliate with in our earlier discussion. Ah well, i'd excpect nothing less from a guttless democrat, jus lie to your people and disenfranchise them. Just be prepared for them to rise up and join us after all the mistreatment.

to nadaskor: thank you very much, your efforts are much appreciated, an your aid to the union will not go unnoticed

Director Kurosian, even as he negotiates from Liaoning province a favourable truce the the Crusader Coalition which besieges the PRD, makes time to express an interest in this union. With almost as many men under arms in service of the PRD as may be found inhabiting Muscovoy, Kurosian is hopeful of gaining for his nation an influential position.

Ah you again. You really dont kno the state of the world do you? noticed u had no arguement to retaliate with in our earlier discussion. Ah well, i'd excpect nothing less from a guttless democrat, jus lie to your people and disenfranchise them. Just be prepared for them to rise up and join us after all the mistreatment. I doubt that will happen you controll-freak Communist, our people are happy as they are.

Dra-pol, as it seems you are aware, in this day might is right, sad but true. as such further negotiation on your position in the proposed commitee is definitly in order, and must be disscussed further, ie what particular talents could you bring to a multi national commitee of soviets?

You numbers are small, your own power is weak. In comparison to the other paties, why would any soviet expose themselfs with your group? To be the target of this abuse and hatred. You are not the wisest of men.

The People's Republic of Dra-pol is situated in what many know as North Korea. Around three generations ago the nation, long isolationist and poorly understood, went into complete isolation, shutting out the world after repulsing Japanese Imperial forces to the south, and Russian Soviet forces north. The nation has always been staunchly independent-minded, and was not about to be administered from Moscow, despite ideological similarities.

In our isolation the world became a mystery, until Quinntonian Christian capitalists landed last year. The clash of cultures eventually lead to what we know as the "crusader coalition" launching an invasion of Dra-pol, and demanding the head of our trusted Director. For months Dra-pol fought on alone against up to six more advanced invaders, eventually driving out the Raysians after an ambush in DaKhiem, our little capital, cost them towards 8,500 lives. Currently Director Kurosian is attempting to negotiate a peace inspite of our clear right to continue to prosecute war against the attackers.

In these things we hope to exhibit several things:

Firstly there is strength of character, and of determined resolve. The people united stood without external help against a vast coalition. Our ideals were not compromised, despite over a million casualties.

Secondly mercy and diplomatic preparedness. The Raysian wounded were escorted from DaKhiem to their extraction point and allowed to leave, even after bombing our capital.

Third, our land's natural wealth- barely touched in the modern era prior to the war, due to our until recently isolated technologies, and our continuing policy of ruralisation (ooc:it is common knowledge that Dra-pol underwent a forced ruralisation akin to that in Pol Pot's Kampuchea- cities are few and small). Dra-pol is rich in coal, lead, tungsten, zinc, graphite, magnesite, iron ore, copper, gold, pyrites, salt, fluorspar, and hydropower potential.

The economy, which is unusually powerful when one considers our situation- the value of our annual GDP is estimated at some eleven trillion US dollars.

Our greatest strength, so our Director has said, are the hundreds of millions of Drapoel people. The masses. "The masses have boundless creative power. They can organize themselves and concentrate on places and branches of work where they can give full play to their energy; they can concentrate on production in breadth and depth and create more and more undertakings for their own well-being." -Kurosian often quotes comrade Mao, since his diplomatic visit to China began.

So, as you can see, the PRD will fight to the last of its over half billion in defence of the idels of the revolution, and will work to their last ounce of strength to sustain it.


-Secretary Hotan.

Muscovoy, your commitment and idealism have been noted. If you wish to join with others of the same beleifs and dreams, come to the region of comintern. Solidarity, comrade!

Comrade Machenzilek, Leader of the USSK, Commisar of the Revolution

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Comrade Machenzilek; hiding away, as Dra-pol knows only too well, in one's own little corner does little to spread the revolution, and indeed threatens it with stagnation. Dra-pol, at least, stands proud in the midst of the Asian community.

-Secretary Hotan.

hmmm, maybe the propostion would now be to revitalise this "stagnent" comintern? a change for the better as it were. THe construction of this new union shall carry on and diplomacy with this comintern may lead to a bigger union? In the mean time plans are currently under way for the organisation of the New Union. Again a call for new members is being made.

hmmm, maybe the propostion would now be to revitalise this "stagnent" comintern? a change for the better as it were. THe construction of this new union shall carry on and diplomacy with this comintern may lead to a bigger union? In the mean time plans are currently under way for the organisation of the New Union. Again a call for new members is being made.

This makes us sick, we shall always resist Red influences, long live Democratic rule!!!

Sharldonia has been added to the Altaranian List Of Possible Imperialist Capitalists.

You can be assured that any aggressive action perpetrated by Sharldonia against another Socialist or Communist nation will be met with severe repercussions from ourselves.

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The United Socialist States Of Altaran
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All Glory To The Soviet!

to nadaskor: thank you very much, your efforts are much appreciated, an your aid to the union will not go unnoticed

As a token of friend ship we will provide you with 24 free Sea Vixen strike fighters. These are new build airframes based on the classic British carrier planes of the 1960's. They have a maximum speed of 625mph, a service ceiling of 55.000ft, and a opperational range of 1,200 miles on internal fuel.
They have 1x 30mm Eden multibarrel cannon and 5,000 rnds of ammunition, 7 hard points compatable with most conventional weapons systems; flare, chaff and pulsed ECM defense systems. crew of 2, Pilot and navigator / weapons opperator.

Use and enjoy.

... we cry to all soviet states ... join a union ...

OOC: Now let me guess - you'll call this the Soviet Union ... hmm ... I wonder why that sounds familiar ...

:lol:

WN

This makes us sick, we shall always resist Red influences, long live Democratic rule!!!

Sharldonia has been added to the Altaranian List Of Possible Imperialist Capitalists.

You can be assured that any aggressive action perpetrated by Sharldonia against another Socialist or Communist nation will be met with severe repercussions from ourselves.

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The United Socialist States Of Altaran
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All Glory To The Soviet! If we ever find need to break our peace-loving ways for violence, rest assured, it will be a cause so worthy as to gain us many allies.

Well if you look at it we are the worse sort of capitalists here in Zerni but its funny its usually the communist who are being imperalist while calling the Capitalists that.

This makes us sick, we shall always resist Red influences, long live Democratic rule!!!

Sharldonia has been added to the Altaranian List Of Possible Imperialist Capitalists.

You can be assured that any aggressive action perpetrated by Sharldonia against another Socialist or Communist nation will be met with severe repercussions from ourselves.

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The United Socialist States Of Altaran
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All Glory To The Soviet!

See that commie dress in red,See that commie dress in red
5.56mm in his head,5.56mm in his head- US Army

well death to you sir.

"Oh no! Not the puny US Army!"

-Secretary Hotan, to uproarious laughter.

Well, I'll just make this clear, no matter what we have to do, this nation shall never, NEVER, submit to Red tyranny.

Its funny the reds talk about Imperalism but their bigger imperalists than the capitalists, democrats, Republicans and other groups that they denouce if the people they call that even has a resemablience to imperalism which they often do not.

Its funny the reds talk about Imperalism but their bigger imperalists than the capitalists, democrats, Republicans and other groups that they denouce if the people they call that even has a resemablience to imperalism which they often do not.

What you call imperialism, we call liberation of the oppressed workers from capitalist tyrany. It's just a matter of stand point.

Indeed, the original soviet union freed the people of east europe from the covert domination of the west, subtly forceing them to do their every wim. the worst kind of imperialism is capitalism, you force the whole world to bow before the almighty dollar. the reason for the third world? people like you. you are the monsters here, not us. we are the freedom fighters and we SHALL take our freedom.

At least we don't kill people for being different, in a Capitalist Government it's your right to disagree with what they say, and openly protest, in a Communist Government, you can disagree with what the Government says as well, you won't live very long, but you can disagree with them, plus that, world domination was an openly spoken goal of the Soviet Union, we shall not submit to anybody.

Bah your no threat, the only serious threat to us is the Pope and we don't force anything, a Socalist or communist society is by its nature opressive of the people, more so than we could ever be and even serfs in a feudal Aboslute society have more freedom than a Socalist or communist society expecally the soviet system. You sirs are hypocrites.

Pah, the pathetic rumblings of those who do not understand the system. Perhaps you would like to take a visit to our capital one day, and see the relative wealth which all can take part in. There is free and good healthcare for all, benefits for those unable to find work, excellent public systems and utilities, and the ability for all to have their own choice in how they go about their lives. Then you can say that socialism and communism limit freedoms.

The pragmatic people of Cretal recognize a higher quality of life in Altaran than in Zerni, a country in which civil rights are rare.

haha

In response to your doubts about comintern becoming 'stagnant' as you say, I must inform you that this is a new comintern (either the fourth or sixth) and you will find we are not afraid of action either. Together we are stronger than divided.

B]Comrade Machenzilek, Leader of the USSK, Commisar of the Revolution[/B]

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Can't the world find a happy medium between Capitalism and Socailism/Communism (they're always lumped in together)?

Although the emperor is strictly democratic/imperialist the Duma (advisory to the emperor) is controlled by the PSOM (Partido Socialista Obrero Macabeo or the The Macabean Socialist's Woker's Party).

The Duma has persuaded the emperor the join the alliance since the empire advocates socialism and has a staunch hate of the fascist who make up the "capatilist" world.

Thus can we be counted as one of your members?

How can emperor be democratic?

Macabees, you are welcome into the organisation. We shall contact you with details when all apparatus is in place. In the mean time your first task as a member of the New Union is to establich a strong Soviet to govern your nation. Your Emperor must reapply his govt organisation into this Soviet and reassign himself as its chairman. This is compulsory to inclusion in the union.
Regards

At least we don't kill people for being different, in a Capitalist Government it's your right to disagree with what they say, and openly protest, in a Communist Government, you can disagree with what the Government says as well, you won't live very long, but you can disagree with them, plus that, world domination was an openly spoken goal of the Soviet Union, we shall not submit to anybody.

We suggest that you educate yourself on the basis of Socialism and Communism. Perhaps you should find yourself some new advisors - clearly the present incumbents are blitheringly incompetent.

In an effort to educate you, we invite you to dispatch an observer to our Commonwealth. It might surprise you to know of our powerful economy, as well as our enviable civil and political rights.

Observers from Zerni are welcome as well.

~Proxy Inviolus, First Ambassador

Commonwealth of Anhierarch

How can emperor be democratic?

Like a constitutional monarchy..only I hold all power, yet allow my citizens freedom of trade and all the articles present in the RL U.S.A constitution.

Also...

Changing the empire into a larger Soviet will be impossible. I can do the following:

Create the United Macabean Soviet whereupon I will be Chairman/Premeir (and still retain the name of emperor in other areas of the government) and install members of the PSOM as cronies. The Soviet will have control of the entire government (heh...since im the chairmen and emperor it works out well)... BUT the empire will still be the predominant source of power in name (although the Soviet will rule)...

Concerning the military... a STAVKA will not be appointed as the MHCW (Macabean High Command of the Wermacht) is sufficient. But, an NKVD will be scrapped together and will number 200,000 and will be spread around the Macabean military to ensure maximum dicipline.

Further negotiation will have to take place, as these terms ar not pure enough at present. Im sure an amicable agreement can be concluded however. We look forward to your swift response.
Regards

Pah, the pathetic rumblings of those who do not understand the system. Perhaps you would like to take a visit to our capital one day, and see the relative wealth which all can take part in. There is free and good healthcare for all, benefits for those unable to find work, excellent public systems and utilities, and the ability for all to have their own choice in how they go about their lives. Then you can say that socialism and communism limit freedoms.

And with the secret police waiting to drag them off to dispear, be sent into exile, killed or given a show trial if they disagree with the goverement or do something that is not proved of by the goverement. Its funny that the Soviet union was done in by the people and the eastern fell to the will of the people and in poland the Communist government was toppled by a workers movement.

Actually when the union fell you'll find that many people like students were still on the side of the state and fought the coup.

"And with the secret police waiting to drag them off to dispear, be sent into exile, killed or given a show trial if they disagree with the goverement "

"Wait, when/why did we start talking about the USA? Will we be able to buy merchandise surrounding the eventual execution?"

-an unidentified Drapoel comrade.

lol 1-0 to the reds!

Bah, well what can you expect what can you expect from people that all they listen to is Soviet propagana. Bah, the sovet heads lived like Czars, living better than the common people and better than some kings. Theres no such thing as ranking communist who doesn't have the blood of his own people on his hands.

Voreni Commoner.

you cant have a revolution without blood my dear. blood is the key to freedom, to victory, we all know it, inside. Just admit it to yourself

Oh yes waging war on civlians some revolution. Lets see 20 million russion peasents, real threats or the 30 million chinese starving to death because of communist policies then theres the other policies that brought more suffering down then the previous gorvements.

How can emperor be democratic?
There are many democratic countries with a monarch(Emperor, king, whatever)

what you dont seem to realise is these people were not killed in the revolution, they were killed by corrupt wrong doers such as stalin who had betrayed our cause in order to gain personal power. that is not communism my friend

No matter what is said to us, we shall remain Democrats.

what you dont seem to realise is these people were not killed in the revolution, they were killed by corrupt wrong doers such as stalin who had betrayed our cause in order to gain personal power. that is not communism my friend

Its called Stalinism.
For 60 years there was a "Cold war" against a communist country that was actually only communist for a few months

indeed, the betrayers highjacked our cause, for their own reasons. however now with hindsight we we make sure noone corrupts our destiny, pure soviet communism willbe reborn

Do you al least reconize that not all goverment and countries that are not communist are not not evil and that people can have good unopressived lifes without a communist or socalist government handing over them.

In any govet always some people will be happy, only communism can eventually lead to everyone being happy, after much hardship and bloodshed, but you must see, its worth it, is it not? to make a nation where all are happy? can you not see what we are trying to accomplish? join us to make this dream a reality. please.

Pah, the pathetic rumblings of those who do not understand the system. Perhaps you would like to take a visit to our capital one day, and see the relative wealth which all can take part in. There is free and good healthcare for all, benefits for those unable to find work, excellent public systems and utilities, and the ability for all to have their own choice in how they go about their lives. Then you can say that socialism and communism limit freedoms.

And with the secret police waiting to drag them off to dispear, be sent into exile, killed or given a show trial if they disagree with the goverement or do something that is not proved of by the goverement. Its funny that the Soviet union was done in by the people and the eastern fell to the will of the people and in poland the Communist government was toppled by a workers movement.

The USSR was not communist. In Altaran, the 'Secret Police' are known as the Internal Security Force, and only take actions against terrorism and other similar, large threats to the nation.
The FBI is more pervasive than our ISF....and has been pointed out, Altaran has more civil freedoms than Zerni. As I have said, we allow all forms of expression, both civil and political - we only will not tolerate violence.

No goverement can make everyone happy and anyone who belives one form can do that is a fool.

Voreni Commoner

so be it, we had hopes for you, you seemed like a strong soul. it is a shame you cannot be working for the forces of liberation instead of against them. it is a crying shame, and we salute you. it is all well and good saying only fools believe in one govt for all, but in my opinion it is only fools who give up on others happiness because it seems "impractical". It takes stronger people to stand and up and work for the future, and this vanguard will enlighten the people to their true freedom.
Regards.

Leave it to a commonist to be blind, death and dumb to anything that disagrees or counters his beliefs and if he can't ingore it, he twists the truth. Its a good thing that we draged the communists in Teritora out into the streets long with the Nazis, the captalists and socalists and beheaded them all.

Teritoran Commoner

[quote="Teritora"]Leave it to a commonist to be blind, death and dumb...

No, to you sir i am jus Death.

Leave it to a commonist to be blind, death and dumb to anything that disagrees or counters his beliefs and if he can't ingore it, he twists the truth. Its a good thing that we draged the communists in Teritora out into the streets long with the Nazis, the captalists and socalists and beheaded them all.

Teritoran Commoner

I'm sorry to say but with that last part your nothing..you are a monster that deserves to be distinguished. My nation hates the NAZI's and the falangist but our democracy/socialism is open minded enough to give them a life because as human beings they deserve the same right to vote and voice their opinions.

Oh yea..am in or not... im not going to throw away the empire just to create a Soviet... you should be happy to have me in anyways (I dont know why but you JUST should lol)

Bring it on, you honorless, immoral godless communist pigs.

Tertioran Commoner

The Communists are no more a threat than the Capitalists, Anarchists, Socalists, Democrats, Republicans, Imperalists, Absulote Monarchist, Nazis and fascists. We distrust them all, only Regulated Feudal Monarchism is a trust worthy goverement for Teritora as guided by The Feudal Monarchist Manifesto.

King Alern

Communists are lost souls but are no match for the Faithal.

Archbishop Vorn

"Communists are lost souls but are no match for the Faithal."

This comment made Director Kurosian smile especially brightly. The war against the invading "Crusader Coalition" in Dra-pol was going, it seemed, better by the day, and such jargon was more satisfactory by the day. Perhaps it would be added to the planned monument in the former Raysian Dra-pol, celebrating the defeat of the capitalist Christians.

He did wonder though how these supposedly relatively open states had fooled themselves into believing that by executing a few communists they had killed the revolution in their nations.

Finally he sent to Secretary Hotan in Kanggye:
"Comrade, these regressives hamper the progress of the meeting of revolutionary progressive minds. Take a moment to request an end to their mindless repetition, so that progress may be made, or at least a fresh point raised."

Hotan would attend to that just as soon as he had made official receipt of the latest Beth Gellen air defence systems via China.

Leave it to a commonist to be blind, death and dumb to anything that disagrees or counters his beliefs and if he can't ingore it, he twists the truth. Its a good thing that we draged the communists in Teritora out into the streets long with the Nazis, the captalists and socalists and beheaded them all.

Teritoran Commoner *Claps*.....ummm, except about the execution part! you should be ashamed of yourselves!....or not.

The monarchists of Teritora and of Vorena deluding themselves? Theres nothing to modivate revolution in those states, Teritora has one of the most powerful economies in Nationstates and they ranked 966th in the world for income equility and the UN ranked both countries as having some of the happiest citzens in all of nationstates, happer than many communist or socalist states. If the people were unhappy we could have movated a capitalist movement and from what I gathered it was the lowly poplious of Teritora that was killing the communists, socalists and others so how can you have a revolution when its the citzens themselves crackin down on people of unpopular beliefs.

Chairman Kern of Kerni Corp.

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