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From the Office of Ambassador Joseph Cortilliari
To Any Offworld Government or Earthbound Nation with strong offworld pressence

Recently the Empire of Xanthal has announced it will supply pirates with vessels including ships of the line. Now this at the time was considered by many established space based powers to be a considerably BAD move. It was in the government of Xanthal's belief that if they pay for the ships it no longer becomes their buisness exactly what happens afterward outside of their space. We in the Federal Republic said first, that any attack by a Xanthal supplied pirate would lead to approriate actions being taken. Well these are those appropriate actions.

We request that all space bound and nations with a heavy space pressance cease trade with Xanthal. The only way to get them to change their stance on this matter is to hit them in the pocketbook. Either cutting 75% or even 50% of trade if you do not wish to completely severe ties is good enough. Our intention is to send a clear message to Xanthal that their greed is tollerable until it affects the safety of those outside of their space. The pirates that were supplied with 5 Xanthal ships of the line openned fire on two of our warships acting in defense of a convoy heading to the outer reaches of the Sol System.

If Sol, our own home system is open to pirate raids doesnt this send a clear message to all? This practice must be stomped out, and the pirates supplied by Xanthal must be hunted and wiped off the face of the galactic map. We are to small to do it on our own, and unless we get backing we will be unable to fight a successful war against Space Piracy. We request the aid of others, either through donation of vessels,if you wish not to use your own people,selling of technology,use of your shipyard, anything that can contribute to the ability to stop this scourge in its track will be appreciated. Even if its only open vocal support and nothing else.

Yes, we shall do as you ask. Adejaani's current volume of trade to Xanthal is 0, so we shall cut our trade by 100%, which leaves our volume of trade to Xanthal at 0.

On a more serious note, if this is state sponsored piracy, then by extension, if a pirate attacks a ship belonging to a sovereign state, it's a declaration of war. So I suggest you run along and go declare war on Xanthal.

Adejaani will be monitoring the situation, but we will not get involved until we are attacked ourselves. Which isn't likely considering we have no space traders and any ships we send into space are warships on the other side of the galaxy (wormhole travel). :roll:

We can not surport the actions of Xanthal and their surport of pirates are a threat to the galaxic space lanes. If we didn't have a treaty that prevents us from cuting off all trade we woul and send our Space Police and Space Forces to go after the pirates on their own world in Xanthalian Teritory, but nothing says we can not sell our ships and go smash the pirates while their outside of Xanthalian Teritory.

Ambassdor Cortilliari grumbled and crused slightly as he wrote up the response to Adejaani commenting on how everyone has to be a smartass in one way shape or form.

To the Leader of Adejaani:
Thanks for the reply. If we could handle this on our own right now do you think we'ed be asking for assistance? Of course we know that state sponsored piracy is an act of war, however we dont currently have the navy to fight a space bound war,and thus we ask for assistance. But I'm sure you used common sense to figure out that very basic point before you made your response.

We could offer you a derlict base for use in the Herran system, however we don't know what you would use it for. Perhaps you would like to lease some of our mothballed ships?

We will lend you aid. We have the Orbital Shipyard in high Earth Orbit, and the Orbital Docks (under construction) in Jovian orbit, as well as mining and research facilities throughout the Great Asteroid Belt near Mars. Here is what we offer you .....

500 Brilliant Pebbles Anti-Warship missiles

200 Anole II long-range fighters

5 Gecko-class corvettes

1 Iguana-class destroyer

Also any support you deem needed.

TG me for specifics, if you're interested.

---Dominion of Wazzu Official Statement---

Wazzu does not consider the technology of the Rogue Nation of Xanthal to be a serious threat to either itself or to its shipping. However, Wazzu also recognizes that by harboring these pirates, the Xanthalian regime is guilty of piracy, rape, and murder by association.

Due to increasing political tension and continued piracy, Wazzu no longer recognizes the Xanthalan government as soverign. In likeness to Xanthalan forign affairs, Wazzu will disregard any attacks against Xanthalan 'national' resources.

Wazzu does not believe it within the interest of its national security to donate resources, technology, or ships to forign governments to battle weak pirate bands and their hosting nations. However, Wazzu military ships within range will respond to any distress calls of ships being attacked by Xanthalan pirates or Xanthalan military forces.

To the Leaders of Teritora:
We would be glad if you would give us a brief listing of vessels you would be willing to sell us. They dont even have to be completed vessels. Hulks of ships will be just as good. If we can smelt it down and build ships from the reused metals we will do just that. Also, any capital ship weapons technology would be welcomed if you would be willing to sell that. Please respond with the listing as soon as convienant.

To the Leaders of LoW:
A derlict base would be execellent for a staging point, problem is, where in the heck is the Herran system in relation to Sol? And the leasing of mothballed warships is a wonderful idea. Just what are you willing to lease us?

In a similiar responce to that of Adejaani, the Sambizie would like to add:

Our shipping lanes are quite secure. We have not been attacked by Xanthal nor any of his "pirate" owned vessels. We have no standing trade agreements, thus will will not come running to the aid of every Earthling who wishes to "venture" past their capabilities.

Respectfully,
M. Uganda

Well heres a list of our warships for both the Space forces and the Space Police.

the Biggest virtue of Teritoran Warships are that they are extremely fast, maneuverable and well extremely shielded, the same goes for the Police ships used by the Teritoran Space Police.

Space forces warships.

Latira class Star destroyers: 10 per fleet

Crew 254
Length: 437 ft
Width: 105.9 ft
Height: 220 ft
Power: 4 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 16 antistarship laser batteries, 6 missile launchers for long ranged sub light missiles, 32 Antispace fighter laser cannons in 8 turrets, 4 shield disrupters.

Fighter craft: 20 TNSF-7s 5 TLRSF-7s

Ashagar class Star Frigates: 20 per fleet

Crew: 163
Length: 371.7 ft
Width: 76.8 ft
Height: 185 ft
Power: 4 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 12 antistarship laser batteries, 2 missile launchers for long range sub light missiles and 12 short range Anti Space fighter cannons in 6 turrets, 4 shield disrupters.

Fighter craft: 5 TNSF-7s, 2 TLRSF-7s

Princess Linda Star Carriers: four per fleet

Crew: 554
Length: 500 ft
Width: 450 ft
Height: 250 ft
Power: 4 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 60 close in defense cannon batteries, 6 antiship laser batteries, two antiship sub light missile launchers, four shield disrupters
Fighter craft: 300 TSNF-7s Space Fighters, 50 TLRSF-7s.

The Forl Class Cruisers: Six per fleet

Crew: 360
Length: 566.8 ft
Width: 205.9 ft
Height: 320 ft
Power: 4 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 20 antistarship laser batteries, 8 missile launchers for long ranged sub light missiles, 48 Antispace fighter laser cannons in 12 turrets, 4 shield disrupters.
Fighter craft: 60 TSNF-2s 10 TLRSF-1s

Asha Star battleships: 1 per fleet

Crew: 1,571
Length: 897.2 ft
Width: 350.9 ft
Height: 445.4 ft
Power: 4 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 28 antiship laser batteries, 16 missile launchers, 72 antistar fighter laser defense guns in 18 turrets, four shield disrupters.
Fighter Craft: 80 TNSF-2s, 20 TLRSF-1s

Teritoran Space Police ships

Linda class Patrol ship: 40 per star System
Length: 84 ft
Width: 42ft
Height: 40 ft
Crew: 10
Power: 2 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 2 antiship laser batteries, 4 antistar fighter lasers, 2 shield disrupters, one sub light missile launcher.

Crusade class patrol Corvettes: 20

Lenght: 213.7 ft
Width: 34.1ft
Height 40 ft
Crew: 20
Power: 2 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 6 antiship laser Batteries, two sub light missile launchers, 6 antistar fighter lasers, shield disrupters.

Vorl Class Police Battle Cruiser: 10 per system to deal with heavily armed space criminals who do not wish to surrender.

Length: 820.2 ft
Width: 93.5 ft
Height: 100 ft
Crew: 900
Power: Four fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 26 Antistarship Laser Batteries, 12 Antistarship sub light missiles, 68 antistarfighter laser defense guns in 16 turrets, four shield disrupters.

Police Alern class Assault Ship: 5 per system; these used by the Teritoran Space police when they need to make planetary raid and each can drop 1,748 police officers with equipment, weapons and vehicle.

Length: 602.7 ft
Height: 90 ft
Width: 84 ft
Crew: 611
Power: 4 fusion reactors
Propulsion: Gersta Drive
Armament: 60 close in defense cannon batteries, 6 antiship laser batteries, two antiship sub light missile launchers, 12 Plasma cannon batteries.
Capacity: 1,748 Police officers with equipment, weapons and vehicles.

To the Leaders of Teritora:
We would be glad if you would give us a brief listing of vessels you would be willing to sell us. They dont even have to be completed vessels. Hulks of ships will be just as good. If we can smelt it down and build ships from the reused metals we will do just that. Also, any capital ship weapons technology would be welcomed if you would be willing to sell that. Please respond with the listing as soon as convienant.

To the Leaders of LoW:
A derlict base would be execellent for a staging point, problem is, where in the heck is the Herran system in relation to Sol? And the leasing of mothballed warships is a wonderful idea. Just what are you willing to lease us?

Herran is approximatly 252 Ly away from this system. It really is not near any human bases (well the TY have begun a colony with in nearby space. At the moment we could lease you several interceptor class star ships that are not FTL capable but would do well to protect shipping within the Sol system.

OOC: Your a non-human race correct? Remembers ALIEN avatar from awhile back.

The Empire of ViZion currently does not have a very large space force, though we do have one large destroyer which was spared from the Mothership tragity, and along with a small force of small space battle ships and space fighters. We do also reside on a planet called Titanus, in a far off solar system, known to outsiders of the CFA only as the Titanus System.

For more information, please go here: http://www.empireofbabu.net/ViZion/titanus.html

If any of our convoys recieve any distress signals, the convoy, after reporting this and the location from which the signals came from to our Space Ministry, they will set out to help. You may also use our solar system for docking, refueling, etc. As mentioned above, we are not of a large space force, so we will not openly engadge, unless distress signals are sent out, or we are attacked. Please read the travel information on our solar system before you send any ships our way. Please note, we are also located on Earth, that is where we originated from, and where most of the ViZionarian population resides.

I would give you the link to my post back a few months ago about claiming of the planet/solar system, but it no longer exists:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54550

EDIT/Added on
We also are one of the nations that man the IMF/Red Globe medical Space Station, along with the IMF/Red Globe Mars Lab.

As for our convoys, we do not have many convoys out all the time. Mainly, they are to move people between our locations in space, and for missions of exporation, along with the very rare occation of needing to go to battle somewhere in space.

Our defences are superb, so if any non-hostile forces are fleeing, and are near our solar system, as long as they contact us ahead of time, they will be allowed in, and any hostile forces will be required to turn around, as we will most likely NOT enter into the war its self. We will most likely, as now, be neutral. If the forces requested to turn back continue, they will be destroyed with no mercy. Please note this, as we are a very defencive society, especially in space. Thank you.

Memorandum
From: Erin Aireserkeiel, Vice President, Adejaani
To: Joseph Cortilliari, Ambassador, New York and Jersey

On the one hand, after a careful review of the situation, we do agree that while Adejaani is not part of the interstellar community per se, in principle, it is the ability to conduct trade between friends and allies that keeps nations and economies healthy.

Which does leave us with the problem of provoking another sovereign nation into a war by deliberately sending our vessels of war into their territories.

But, nevertheless, President Harrington has ordered the Space Corps to deploy one Cruiser and four Destroyers to "observe" the situation. Though this is not a guarantee we will get into your war, even if we are attacked.

Further, I have been authorised to propose a selling of raw materials and parts to create your own vessels and FTL drives, but no weapons systems, unfortunately.

Regards
Vice President Erin C. Aireserkeiel
Vice President, Republic of Adejaani

The Empire of Crimmond has announced that no change will be made in the usual trade between Xanthal and Crimmond. While we do not like pirates, we have little trouble protecting our interests from pirates. The fact they have Xanthalian heavy cruisers changes nothing. Despite the advanced shields they have(a slightly different type than our own) and weapons, we find that just the looming shapes of a heavy cruiser and its border cutter escort with a convoy is enough to fend off the pirates.

The Five Civilized Nations denounce the Empire of Xanthal's piracy actions. We demand that Xanthal stop or face the consequences...

--Vice Foreign Minister Jean Luc Petain

We object to this attack on our nation's integrity. Our international trade laws state that any party wishing to buy Xanthalian merchandise has the right to do so provided that they have not violated Xanthalian law and that they have the resources to pay for it. It would be discriminatory to not sell our vessels to a nation simply because we do not like them, Trasnians and other pirates included. We hate pirates as much as anyone, but as long as they do not violate our laws we have no right to deny them our merchandise.

Tough. You have made your bed, now sleep in it. The Republic will destroy on sight any pirate vessels found, and any surviving crew will be hung with chains as a warning to others.

http://www.pacifier.com/~cziller/fidelo.jpg

From the Office of Ambassador Joseph Cortillari, Federal Republic of New York and New Jersey:

To the nation of Wazzu:
Not every nation is so far off as your own not to be worried about the threat of piracy. Those of us who are just getting out there this sends a very bad message. Now your offer to support ships under attack by pirates if they send a distress call is heartinging but we can not always count on your ships being there to fend off the hordes. A nation such as yourself has to have obsolete technology available. Something that you would consider primative but would be willing to sell. Something that would assist us in our goal of attempting to protect other younger space born nations from piracy. Because if the larger nations refuse to do it, well then no one else will.

To the nation of Adejaani:
We thank you, this war isnt just ours alone. Any nation attempting to leave the confines of the solar system will feel the effects of what will happen should Xanthal continue to make its profit off of its sale to pirates. Why?Because the pirates take cargo, sell it off, buy ships and then take more cargo because they are running low on money. It is a vicious cycle and one that must be addressed. I am authorized to tap into whatever funding needed to buy raw materials, parts and even FTL drives. We've been experimenting with our own, but no success has come from it.

To the nation of LoW:
OOC:Human nation,sorry dont remember the ALIEN avatar
IC:
We will graciously accept the offer of the Interceptor class vessels for convoy defense. It will free up our main fleet warships from convoy duty. We would also like permission to reverse engineer the class if we find it suitable to our needs, and construct it under license of which we are willing to negotiate the price for each vessel constructed.

To the nation of Teritora:
Your Alren class police vessels are a Marines dream. We shall be contacting you shortly over vessels we would like to purchase from you. Currently the Federal Republic Stellar Navy is making a listing of capital and support vessels but it has to be approved by President de los Santos before anything can truely happen. We shall give you word soon.

To the nation of Xanthal:
You should consider yourselves lucky that we do not try to sue you in a galactic court for the cargo that was stolen. Because they do not break your laws, does not mean they do not break the laws of other nations, and intergalactic law itself. Your greed and your so-called want not to be discriminatory are both laughable and sad. We doubt if the shoe were on the other foot you would appricate pirates that have vessels from the Federal Republic Navy attacked your merchant shipping.

Very well we will wait for you to contact us when your ready.

I wonder if the ISHL will get involved... :?

Pokes Valinon.

The Five Civilized Nations denounce the Empire of Xanthal's piracy actions. We demand that Xanthal stop or face the consequences...

--Vice Foreign Minister Jean Luc Petain

OC:

You hypocrite :o
First you board one of my vessels without permission, and then you denounce piracy? Bah!

IC:

The Vortex Corporation does not have any existing relationships with the empire of Xanthal. However, from this day on we do forbid Xanthalian ships to enter our sovereign space, both on earth and in space itself. Any intruders will be engaged on sight. As long as the nation of Xanthal keeps selling equipment and vessels to pirates, it will be labelled as a rogue state, with it's leaders considered outlaws.

~Council

The always erudite SSCC Pratt makes a statement..

"Socialist nonsense! The Xanthalian government has done nothing to earn a state of "non sovereignty" or unrecognized national sovereignty. This is nothing but a weak attempt to further regulate business, by placing restrictions on whom one can sell what to. What's next, one can't sell ships to Bigtopians because a Bigtopian once socked you in the nose?"

Vice Chairwoman Sonya Chang clarifies.

"This is nothing but an attempt by New York and Jersey to cut back on their own operating costs. There's a saying in the 'Desert: If you can't feed it, don't breed it. If your forces are scattered throughout the galaxy, and carrying apparently valued goods, and you haven't bothered to protect yourselves against a few pirates armed with hand-me-down weaponry, it is your own bed that you must lay in. The idea of condemming a nation, for conducting business which is not hindered by bias or preference, is ridiculous in the extreme.

"An analogy to show this: it is like if a man drove to your house and shot your daughter, and in response, so you went to the gas station where he filled his car up, and shot the clerk there.

"That is what you want us to do, New York and Jersey. However, common sense, and international business laws, show clearly that the seller is not responsible for the actions of the buyer. Period. Your case is as empty and transparent as your motives. You don't want to hunt down all pirates, merely Xanthalian-supplied ones. And then Xanthal itself, no doubt..."

"Should we tell them about the Drake?" Meyer asked her chief.

"No. It isn't ready yet, and won't be for a while. We'll probably have too low production when it is with MIDAS and our own uses. Besides, they scratched out on TransCorp a long time ago, left a mission to Pluto hanging over a cliffs edge for years and still never finished. I don't think Nike would want to grace them with good tidings."

"Alright then...."

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Reply to the nation of NY&J:
Wazzu has a strict policy against selling arms on the international market. Such sales often lead to instability. While this policy is changing in regards to close allies, NY&J is not a close ally. Even if it were, the old technology that Wazzu does in fact have is ill suited for interplanetary warfare. Interstellar warfare is completely out of the question. We feel it would have no benifit against the Pirate Nation of Xanthal.

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Soundbite from the weekly Wazzu government press confrence.

"...and those in the Executive council would like to remind the world that despite its objections, the Rogue Nation of Xanthal doesn't have any integrity left to attack."

-Manar Tawam, speaker for the government of Wazzu.

"Good statement from the PCC, save for one thing: the gas clerk does not know that his customer has evil intentions. Xanthal does."

(Press bureau employee in TVC)

Your objections do not change our laws. Feel free to destroy as many pirate vessels as you would like. Though we may supply pirates, we do not endorse them. The fewer there are at the end of the day, the better. Just don't make trouble in Xanthalian space or attack Xanthalian ships. Xanthalian ships supplied to other nations... We couldn't care less.

The always erudite SSCC Pratt makes a statement..

"Socialist nonsense! The Xanthalian government has done nothing to earn a state of "non sovereignty" or unrecognized national sovereignty. This is nothing but a weak attempt to further regulate business, by placing restrictions on whom one can sell what to. What's next, one can't sell ships to Bigtopians because a Bigtopian once socked you in the nose?"

Vice Chairwoman Sonya Chang clarifies.

"This is nothing but an attempt by New York and Jersey to cut back on their own operating costs. There's a saying in the 'Desert: If you can't feed it, don't breed it. If your forces are scattered throughout the galaxy, and carrying apparently valued goods, and you haven't bothered to protect yourselves against a few pirates armed with hand-me-down weaponry, it is your own bed that you must lay in. The idea of condemming a nation, for conducting business which is not hindered by bias or preference, is ridiculous in the extreme.

"An analogy to show this: it is like if a man drove to your house and shot your daughter, and in response, so you went to the gas station where he filled his car up, and shot the clerk there.

"That is what you want us to do, New York and Jersey. However, common sense, and international business laws, show clearly that the seller is not responsible for the actions of the buyer. Period. Your case is as empty and transparent as your motives. You don't want to hunt down all pirates, merely Xanthalian-supplied ones. And then Xanthal itself, no doubt..."

Thing is that Xanthal didn't sold merely hand me down but ships of the line to the pirates that they use in their own fleet and their protecting the pirates openly so their homeworld they operate from can't be attacked with out invading Xanthalian space. The Pirates and their homeworld are openly a Protectorite of Xanthal.

Although a general policy of non-interference, and the lack of any trade relations with Xanthal to cut off, prevent us from taking any direct action against the pirates, vessels that believe they may be in danger of pirate attack are welcome to take advantage of the Krasnikov corridor between Jupiter and Pluto/Charon.

-Ganymede Node

Zerni: Much to our dismay, yes. They became our protectorate while they were still a legitimate organization; and since they have yet to violate Xanthalian law we cannot expel them.

We have decided to retract our offer. The area the pirates seem to operate in is well outside our boundary lines. As such, all those ships listed will instead be re-ordered to run patrols along Sakkran shipping lines, as well as those we are on friendly relations with. Should NY&NJ find themselves under attack near the Sol system, however, we will respond.

The Xanthalian ministries of Commerce, Defense, Economics, Foreign Affairs, Industry, and Justice are meeting now to discuss how to respond to this situation.

Memorandum
From: Erin Aireserkeiel, Vice President, Adejaani
To: Joseph Cortillari, Ambassador, New York and Jersey

Our small flotilla is being sent under the command of Captain Zhang Shubuo and will arrive shortly. But take note: Our objective and the Rules of Engagement issued to Captain Zhang is to ensure Xanthal does not sell and thereby indirectly endorsing piracy. It is not a crusade or a declaration of war against Xanthal (except to deter and disable their capacity to sell such ships to pirates). Any orders sent to my flotilla which is in conflict with said Rules of Engagement will be ignored. This is non negotiable.

As per otherwise, Adejaani has had our own robust space R&D for a long time, developing and deploying our own indigenous Destroyer and Cruiser class. Our engineers and scientists are willing to help you in that manner. You can respond to this offer later at your leisure.

Regards
Doctor Erin Aireserkeiel, Vice President, Republic of Adejaani

Memorandum
From: Mr Charles Burke, Secretary of State, Adejaani
To: Leader of Xanthal

Dear sir or madam.

Understand that the position of Adejaani is to make friends, not enemies. We have no quarrel with you, but it is the fact that by selling vessels of war to pirates, you are in fact, indirectly endorsing their actions. As such, be noted that our vessels have Rules of Engagement which are concurrent to this goal, to destroy the pirate power base and to convince you to cease such selling of equipment of war to pirates.

That is not to say we do not allow you to sell your wares, we just don't like you selling your wares such that it hurts the interstellar community as such. We are not declaring war on you, we stress that and we will stick with that goal. We only ask you don't sell to pirates.

But consider this. You have said yourself you do not care about piracy, so why get so worked up? Surely you have nothing to fear? I am sure if you agree to cease sales and help in disarming the pirates, I will try to convince everyone else to not wage war against you where the stakes are your nation. We seek peace, not war. We do not war or quarrel against you.

Regards
Mr Charles Burke, Secretary of State, Republic of Adejaani

The aforementioned team assigned to make a decision has released the following statement:

In response to international pressure to halt our sales of warships to pirates the Socialist Empire of Xanthal is hereby halting all sales of our warships to the international community. We hope that this is sufficient to reassure and calm our fellow nations.

Thats to the International Community...how about the pirates operating under your own banner? You seek to use a loophole, dont try it. I was a corporate lawyer before becoming an Ambassdor and I've seen every trick in the book when it comes to Company nations. :roll:
Ambassdor Joseph Cortilliari

The Trasnians do not operate under our banner, literally or figuratively. Though they are our protectorate, they are still a foreign, seperate nation. You see a loophole that does not exist. Also, do not refer to us a a corporate nation. We are not. International commerce is not common in Xanthal.

Now this at the time was considered by many established space based powers to be a considerably BAD move.
The bad move was openly calling them "pirates." "Privateers" are much more liked. Employing them doesn't cause as much trouble.
Xanthal has my support, just because.

The Eurydian Republic sees these pirates as a nuisance to Xanthal's government, and the shipping lanes to other nations. While we detest pirates in any way shape or form, we do not detest Xanthal or its actions. We currently are hunting down pirates in our neck of the woods... and suggest that other nations simply blow the pirates out of the sky. Xanthal is just trying to make some money... I can't blame them.

Fun fact for those of you who have (or will) said (say) that we're in it for the money: Xanthal's current GNP is $100 trillion. International commerce makes up a miniscule 2.73% of that figure. If we ceased trading with other nations our overall loss would be only 5% of our GNP. It would not be a great loss if we halted all trade completely tomorrow. We continue as a service to ourselves and the international community.

Somewhere in Marxsylvania:

Ensign Raters: "Captian, I seem to be getting a extreme amount of static in this one region of space. Do you have any idea what it is?"

Captian Foster: "Ensign, just ignore that region of space for now, it's most likly just one of those subspace disturbances those 'mad scientists' are talking these days."

Ensign: "Yes Sir!"

Five minutes later...

The Captain picks up a purple phone in his office.

Captain: "Hello, Space Anomalies Department? Yes we have an abnormal amount of static in section Q12.21.RE.2. Yes this is the first time we've point the Radio telescopes in that direction. Yes Sir! Thank You Sir!"Click


OOC: I'm just a modern nation(new to the forums), sorry if this is unwelcome.

Now this at the time was considered by many established space based powers to be a considerably BAD move.
The bad move was openly calling them "pirates." "Privateers" are much more liked. Employing them doesn't cause as much trouble.
Xanthal has my support, just because.

OOC: A pirate acts without sanction a "Privateer" has a letter by the government sanctioning them to act like pirates, there's a difference. 8)

IC: Adejaani applauds Xanthal for their cessation of sales to the pirates. Since this also would assumingly include a denouncing of the pirates, I am sure Xanthal would not mind if we went after them?

As usual, the Empire of Vzxlack monitored the galactic transmissions that occasional flooded from the other side of the galaxy. Their own conflict with another of these inferior factions seeming to have died down, they resumed their curiosity of this region of space. Some day they would bring their reign to the other side of the galaxy, but for now they watched and observed.

Most certainly they had never traded with these inferior civilizations, trade being restricted to the Vzxlackian Empire alone. Xanthal they never heard of, and would most definitely pull a full assault on any pirate vessels they detected within their region. Piracy was untolerated and all businesses were owned by the government, private enterprise illegal. Individuality and privacy did not benefit the Exalted Hivelord.

And so pairs of ant-like eyes continued to watch the interstellar dispute, finding a strange amusement in it.

Adejaani: We've never minded, whether they buy our ships or not. Kill as many pirates as you want, just keep the violence outside our borders.

OOC:

Fun fact for those of you who have (or will) said (say) that we're in it for the money: Xanthal's current GNP is $100 trillion. International commerce makes up a miniscule 2.73% of that figure. If we ceased trading with other nations our overall loss would be only 5% of our GNP. It would not be a great loss if we halted all trade completely tomorrow. We continue as a service to ourselves and the international community.

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Xanthal

Population: 988,000,000
Civil Rights: Below Average
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $24,700,000,000,000
National Budget: $8,297,224,000,000

Wazzu: OOC: I know. But considering the many external factors having to do with my expansion and claims, replicating technology, and trade alliances, I pumped it up.

OOC: Not everyone uses that thing. I do, you do. But not everyone.

Wazzu: OOC: I know. But considering the many external factors having to do with my expansion and claims, replicating technology, and trade alliances, I pumped it up.

OOC: Oh, well then. I guess we'll just blow away standards.

Considering the rather large commerce of Wazzu and its many puppet nations, I will tag its GDP at 500 trillian.

And I'll tag NY&J at 800 trillian for his benifit.

Oh, and Menelmacar is going to be 978 trillian.

Wait, now I am feeling left behind. I think I'll increase mine to 9.0x10^51.

Get the point?

Your super-high GDP is hereby considered to be in Italian Lire.

OOC: Not everyone uses that thing. I do, you do. But not everyone.

OOC: Nope, not everyone. And for those people, I don't mind boosting myself up or reinterpreting the results for myself.

It is FFRP. They are allowed to change it, and I am allowed to change it's effects as far as my nation is concerned.

Your super-high GDP is hereby considered to be in Italian Lire.

OOC:But but...Italian Lire doesnt exist anymore. Does that mean Xanthal's economy doesnt exist anymore too? :shock:

OOC: The problem is twofold.
1: The GNP as shown by traditional calculators does not take into account RP factors, only the base descriptions.
2: Nobody ever calculates all their expenses in relation to their GNP. Thus, the GNP is pointless and should be used only as a very general guideline.

and my personal 3: The nation description is so one dimensional that I do not use it in my RPs.

OOC: Wazzu's point is, I believe, that standards are needed. While the GDP calc may not take everything into account it establishes a valid baseline for all nations based on verifiable fact. Without any standards FFRP comes down to cops and robbers - IE "I shot you - no you didn't. I did too, I have a laser sight - well I have diamond armor..." etc.

Just so you know, I as the player do not recognize puppet nations as contribuing anything to another nation. Population, trade, nothing. TG me if you want to argue, and I'm not going to give the rest of my reasons here, but that is my policy.

Well, suppose I said that my GNP was only $24 trillion. Would it change the way I RP? No. Would anyone notice or care? No. That's why I just say screw it.

*TAG*

OOC: Well, for you it doesn't. I've never told you this, but I would assume you remember the first RP we did. The rescue of the Shishoni. After that, despite the fact that it was a blast, I've never RPed with you. Wonder why? Perhaps its the fact that you decided to jump from sleeper ships to uber-ships, with no in-between.

I've seen threads on invincible shields, and uber-weapons and sun-destroying weapons - and that has only reinforced my decision not to RP with you. Why? Because you seem to be all about the tech, than about the characters behind the tech. Granted I have stopped reading any thread you create so that may have changed - but with this comment:

"Well, suppose I said that my GNP was only $24 trillion. Would it change the way I RP? No. Would anyone notice or care? No. That's why I just say screw it."

I do not think so.

I'm still ticked off that people tell me that my shields are indestructible. They're not. And what's wrong with uber-weapons? You're right about one thing: It's all about the tech. Though I do love a good character RP once in a while. The technology jump is explained in my timeline, I skipped ahead about a millenium when I went from post modern to future tech.

OOC: And that is why, while I will talk to you OOC, IC the nation of Xanthal does not exist. We are seperated by a millenia, as well as by a different style of RP.

OOC: I've got "planet destroying gun" in development. It just breaks down half the time because the power requirements are so great and the thing is a piece of junk. :P

Yeah, large-scale weapons are troublesome. And Sunset, don't forget: I do exist to you, just in my past; just as you exist to me in your future. If you ever want to RP together, we can certainly adjust our clocks a little.

OOC: I just stuck with a "planet-killing" bomb that's three times the strength of the asteroid that offed the dinosaurs... so it gives a slight chance for life to recover. Although the massive, risidual radiation it causes may produce problems. So far that's the only "uber-tech" I have.