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Anti-Matter Sale!

Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:23
Gewher has just turned up a few particles of anti-matter in the gigantic particle accelerator at the center of the Phi space platform. We are marketing these particles, but you might want to know some things about them first.
•A tiny ammount of anti-mattter can power a city about the size of New York for one whole day.
•One gram of anti-matter , if it comes into contact with anything-including air- will blow up with a yeild of 20 kilotons (about the size of the bomb that was detonated over Hiroshima)
•Not cheap, not cheap at all
•We're selling these in grams, and no, we will not market the technology for the creation of these dangerous particles.
http://www.unmuseum.org/aatom.jpg
500,000,000,000 USD per gram
You will need to give me a reason why you are buying anti-matter, and I will check your background to make sure I'm not selling to the wrong person.
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 02:24
What type of antimatter?
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:28
What type of antimatter?
There's only one type.
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 02:29
No. There are as many types of antimatter as there are matter.
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:31
Two types of matter: Matter, and anti-matter. They're mostly anti-hydrogen and anti-helium, if that's what you're asking.
Guanyu
29-10-2003, 02:33
Um Geweher...Anti-matter is by definition NOT a type of matter.
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 02:33
There is an anti-atom for every atom known to man, but it's deeper than that; it's really that there are anti-subatomic particles, e.g. anti-protons, positrons, etc. Also, how do you contain entire anti-atoms? How do you keep them from interacting with atoms?
Blademasters
29-10-2003, 02:37
1/2 a trillion US per gram? I have the equivalent of well over 30,000 tons of the stuff... my reactors produce it as a by-product...
Crimmond
29-10-2003, 02:37
You actually managed to hold onto antimatter, who knows why you would want to, and now you are SELLING it?! Do you have any idea the destruction the amount your selling could do?

http://home.earthlink.net/~alpha_zero_usm/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/saratov.jpg
Dr. Pavel Saratov
Head of Crimmond Science Council
Quote: "In science, we seek to find answers, but only find new questions."
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:38
We keep small ammounts in vaccuum sealed glass tubes encased in a large solid lead canister out in space, and hope nothing happens.
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 02:39
You do realize that the antimatter would interact with the glass, right? And boom.

Here, I'll give you a little advice: use only antiprotons and/or positrons, and say they're contained by an EM field. Don't have the two mixed, however.
Crimmond
29-10-2003, 02:40
We keep small ammounts in vaccuum sealed glass tubes encased in a large solid lead canister out in space, and hope nothing happens.Does anyone see how this would fail? If antimater touches ANY type of matter the two desroy each other.
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:45
1/2 a trillion US per gram? I have the equivalent of well over 30,000 tons of the stuff... my reactors produce it as a by-product...
Yeah, how do they do that?
Guanyu
29-10-2003, 02:45
I suggest anti-quarks. As they flip in and out of reality they actually have a much smaller chance of harmful reaction with containing matter.
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:46
Does anyone see how this would fail? If antimater touches ANY type of matter the two desroy each other.
Naw, you think!?
imported_Angelus
29-10-2003, 02:47
Naw, you think!?*
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A lot more than you do, apparently...
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 02:47
Quarks (and antiquarks) will naturally come together to form larger particles, so it doesn't really matter.

You can contain the aforementioned particles in an EMF because they have a charge. If you mix THOSE two, however, the whole antiatom becomes neutral and the EMF no longer has any effect on it.
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:48
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:48
I suggest anti-quarks. As they flip in and out of reality they actually have a much smaller chance of harmful reaction with containing matter.
Our physicists don't produce quarks of any sort, I'm selling anti-matter, if anyone wants to buy some, then buy. If you don't, leave.
29-10-2003, 02:51
I suggest anti-quarks. As they flip in and out of reality they actually have a much smaller chance of harmful reaction with containing matter.
Our physicists don't produce quarks of any sort, I'm selling anti-matter, if anyone wants to buy some, then buy. If you don't, leave.
What type?
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:52
so it doesn't really matter.
Heh, nice pun.
Crimmond
29-10-2003, 02:52
I suggest anti-quarks. As they flip in and out of reality they actually have a much smaller chance of harmful reaction with containing matter.
Our physicists don't produce quarks of any sort, I'm selling anti-matter, if anyone wants to buy some, then buy. If you don't, leave.Do you even know what the hell a quark is?
imported_Angelus
29-10-2003, 02:53
Do you even know what the hell a quark is?*
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It's a desktop publishing program, DUH!
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 02:53
so it doesn't really matter.
Heh, nice pun.

I never noticed that.
Guanyu
29-10-2003, 02:55
Yes as a matter of fact, I DO know what a quark is, and I am assuming certain properties of the inverse substance from the properties of the known matter.
Crimmond
29-10-2003, 02:56
Do you even know what the hell a quark is?*
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It's a desktop publishing program, DUH!I just hope he doesn't think quarks look like this:

http://www.ltmiz.com/2001/images/quark.jpg
Geweher
29-10-2003, 02:58
What type?
Anti-helium, anti-hydrogen.
Components of package are seperated into positrons (opposite of electrons), antiprotons (opposite of protons), and antineutrons(opposite of a neutron). Somebody please explain to me how an antineutron can exist, that's like giving somehting a value of -0.
Guanyu
29-10-2003, 02:58
If I'm not mistaken I believe that would be a Ferengi, and I'm not likely to get a Ferengi confused with a quark, seeing as one is a Star Trek merchant race and the other is a subatomic particle.
Crimmond
29-10-2003, 02:59
If I'm not mistaken I believe that would be a Ferengi, and I'm not likely to get a Ferengi confused with a quark, seeing as one is a Star Trek merchant race and the other is a subatomic particle.The character is named Quark.
imported_Angelus
29-10-2003, 03:00
If I'm not mistaken I believe that would be a Ferengi, and I'm not likely to get a Ferengi confused with a quark, seeing as one is a Star Trek merchant race and the other is a subatomic particle.* * * *
That is a Ferengi. A Ferengi named Quark, to be exact...
Guanyu
29-10-2003, 03:02
Ah, sorry I don't watch Star Trek often so I wouldn't know, I was unaware of the pun.
29-10-2003, 03:02
What's the matter? :D
Super American VX Man
29-10-2003, 03:03
You can't contain entire neutral anti-atoms; therefore, you can't contain anti-hydrogen or anti-helium. You CAN contain anti-subatomic particles that have a charge.

As for anti-neutrons: anti-matter isn't defined by charges alone; otherwise electrons and protons would be exact opposites. Anti-matter is simply matter with opposite properties to normal matter. Charge is a property, and thus will switch if it is present, but there are more differences than that. However, few, if anyone, is has any idea what all of the differences are at this point, so I obviously can't give other examples.
imported_Angelus
29-10-2003, 03:04
Ah, sorry I don't watch Star Trek often so I wouldn't know, I was unaware of the pun.*
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That's ok. Quark came from one of the worst SciFI television shows of all time, Deep-Space 9. *shudder*
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Even cheap-ass Enterprise and über-PC Voyager were not as bad.
29-10-2003, 03:20
A few points -

1) You can get anti-neutrons - they have the same (lack of) charge as neutrons, but an opposite "spin" (don't ask me what that is - all the physicists I asked said no-one's exactly sure, although they do know it doesn't just mean they spin in the other direction. In this case "spin" is just a stupid name for a hard-to-explain property. kinda like "strangeness", which is a property of certain quarks - called, for obvious if un-original reasons, "strange quarks").
However, antineutrons'd be pretty much impossible to contain, as they couldn't be held in magnetic fields.

2) You obviously don't know what a Quark is, Gweher - all matter and all anti-matter is made up of quarks and anti-quarks, so if you think you can make anti-atoms with no quarks, you're sadly mistaken. All non-fundamental particles (including protons and neutrons, and their anti-equivalent) are made of quarks and/or anti-quarks.

3) Just as a side-topic, some matter contains both quarks and anti-quarks (particles called hadrons are made up of a quark of one kind and an anti-quark of another, eg dū), which don't annihilate each-other because they're different types.
29-10-2003, 03:31
This is all very informative, but my question to Geweher is, do you even know what a sale is? Come on now! 1/2 trillion US is called a sale???
29-10-2003, 03:39
A sale is when you sell something. Only people who work in advertising think "sale" automatically means "reduced prices".
Geweher
29-10-2003, 04:12
Sorry for the rather lengthy absence--family problems. So where were we? Oh yes. Dudesia, considering how destructive/productive antimatter is, you wouldn't think it was very cheap. I only want people who truly understand antimatter to buy.