NationStates Jolt Archive

Okeydokey, I have a long weekend coming up, which means I'll finally have time to put down colonies and tentative borders, and probably make a few globes as well. So as to reduce my stress level, and the amount of time it will take to do everything pixel-by-pixel, all who currently have legitimate claims to Venusian territory are requested to mark there holdings on a copy of This Map (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/VenusSurface.gif), and e-mail it to me or upload it somewhere and TG the link. E-mail addy can be acquired via TG.

As before, the most up-to-date water map can be found here (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/VenusClaims.png).

I want to claim that lake in the upper right quarter of the map.

I want to claim that lake in the upper right quarter of the map.

I want to claim that lake in the upper right quarter of the map.

Methinks that bit is already taken, but I'll see what I can do.

We just want the floor of the lake, if IT is already taken we will look at another body of water.

Kinda hard to tell elevation. On the water map, it looks like the high elevations are dark brown (surrounded by orange) and low are light brown with mid-sections in yellow. Is that correct?

I can't even begin to read the second map.

Also, Menelmacar had some large land claims. Could you describe to us where those are so we don't overrun her?

Thank you.

Menelmacar has the Ishtar and Aphrodite continents, but all the smaller landmasses are to be opened for colonization. If there is a high level of interest, Menelmacar might open some of Ishtar.

~Siri

Menelmacar has the Ishtar and Aphrodite continents, but all the smaller landmasses are to be opened for colonization. If there is a high level of interest, Menelmacar might open some of Ishtar.

~Siri

OOC: OK, but where exactly are the Ishtar and Aphrodite continents? Last I checked, neither of the above maps (nor any map I've been able to find online) is labeled.

So exactly what is Menelmacar's claim?

Here's two maps of Venus.

Venus Map 1 (http://www.solarviews.com/raw/venus/topoven1.jpg)

Venus Map 2 (http://www.solarviews.com/raw/venus/topol.gif)

Eventually everything colored in blue (on the first map) will be covered in shallow oceans (about a km deep at the deepest). The green, yellow, and red areas will be above sea level.

The second map's boundaries on the continents are far less clear, but it has the names you were looking for.

So, Menelmacar will have the two large continents (but might be opening up about half of one of them depending how much interest there is in Eärendil colonies) but there are several small continents and countless lovely archipelagos available for colonization by other nations, provided they are willing to contribute to the terraforming effort. The oceans will also be available if someone wants an undersea city.

I'm not on my usual computer, but tomorrow I will be, and I'll draw Menelmacar's borders on the map and post it then.

~Siri

OOC: OUTSTANDING maps!

Well then, seeing as how Wazzu is already on the surface, I may as well try and get some prime real estate.

Wazzu would like to place it's claim to Beta Regio and the portion of Gulnevere Planitia directly North of it (ending at the shallows of the Islands North of Gulnevere Planitia).

This does NOT include Asteria Regio or the lower half of Oeuana Chasma (that past the island's Southern boundry). It also does NOT include parts of Gulnevere Planitia that are NOT directly North of Beta Regio.

I'll get some markings on the water map shortly.

Something along these (http://members.cox.net/sincityraiders/images/WazzuCytherea.jpg) lines.

So anybody can play with this map? :D

True, I've never posted on the boards before a few days ago, but nonetheless I humbly request the Phoebe Regio area and some nearby ocean.

Karakas: You do of course realize the planet is not yet terraformed? It's still a burning hellish sulfur-choked wasteland, and it could be centuries before anyone can survive on the surface outside a dome. Further, you'd be required to contribute financially and scientifically to the terraforming effort. If you're still interested, mark your boundaries and I'll let you know if it will work.

To anyone else interested: I highly do not recommend claiming the lowlands in the eastern part of Nauka Planitia (the deep blue part), as we'll likely be throwing an asteroid at that in the near future in order to speed up the planet's rotation. Assuming of course we find a suitably useless star system to do a 'dry run', of course. ;)

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We've discussed this already, an asteroid would be ill-suited to speeding up the rotation of the planet (not to mention dangerously close to the Wazzu colony which IS already on the surface).

Venus' atmosphere is thick, a lot of the energy of the asteroid would be put into the atmosphere rather then into the planet (much more then on Earth...as Venus' real life atmosphere is 97 bar).

An asteroid of enough velocity or mass would also cause a large portion of the planet to reach orbital or even escape velocity. Not only would this throw back the terraforming effort by several centuries (geologically speaking), but it would pepper all the stations and ships in orbit with dust and house sized rocks.

Lastly, I thought Wazzu had already sped up the planet. We did have that big discussion. The unique Wazzu technology allowing for speeding up rotation being a coating that was almost completely frictionless to an atmosphere (no/little friction, no/little heat, kinetic energy transfered to planet rather then atmosphere). Using tiny ball bearings (berrings?) spread out over an uncolonized landmass also means that none of the surface is blasted into space (like the event that caused the creation of Luna over Earth).

Of course, if it wasn't enough, Wazzu will throw more at still uninhabited areas...but to throw an asteroid so close to the Wazzu colony (high as it may be)....

OOC: Wow... I thought Venus was still being prepped for colonization by draining off most of the atmosphere and shipping it to Mars. You people work fast.

OOC: Wow... I thought Venus was still being prepped for colonization by draining off most of the atmosphere and shipping it to Mars. You people work fast.

OOC: Actually, it is. Wazzu (which specializes in materials) colonized it anyway. I think one or two other nations may be on the surface (Pilon?), but everyone else is still in orbit.

Karakas: You do of course realize the planet is not yet terraformed? It's still a burning hellish sulfur-choked wasteland, and it could be centuries before anyone can survive on the surface outside a dome. Further, you'd be required to contribute financially and scientifically to the terraforming effort. If you're still interested, mark your boundaries and I'll let you know if it will work.



Sure I'm still interested. I can try and make a map . . . if I have time. *grumbles about exams*

Meanwhile, in-character I guess I'll have to build some space ships, train astronauts and colonists, invent materials and terraforming machines . . . *grumbles about work*

I'm not on my usual computer, but tomorrow I will be, and I'll draw Menelmacar's borders on the map and post it then.

~Siri

OOC: Don't forget to mark some borders on Themis Regio for my 'activities'...

Kinda hard to tell elevation. On the water map, it looks like the high elevations are dark brown (surrounded by orange) and low are light brown with mid-sections in yellow. Is that correct?

That's mostly correct, but there are a few anomolies. I'll get to work on fixing that.

On second thought, Menelmacar's links are pretty good, so use those for reference for now. Everything should be labelled on the final map.

OOC: Wow... I thought Venus was still being prepped for colonization by draining off most of the atmosphere and shipping it to Mars. You people work fast.

OOC: Actually, it is. Wazzu (which specializes in materials) colonized it anyway. I think one or two other nations may be on the surface (Pilon?), but everyone else is still in orbit.

Snel are on the surface on Beta, Artemis Chasma, and Atalanta.

OC: Don't forget to mark some borders on Themis Regio for my 'activities'...

Right. I've got you and Wazzu down, and I'm working on something to make Pilon happy.

Terraformed venus...

Mental note: Whenever i`m crazy enough to start an outpost on Venus, it´s some... 'other' Venus...

Here's two maps of Venus.

Venus Map 1 (http://www.solarviews.com/raw/venus/topoven1.jpg)

Venus Map 2 (http://www.solarviews.com/raw/venus/topol.gif)

Eventually everything colored in blue (on the first map) will be covered in shallow oceans (about a km deep at the deepest). The green, yellow, and red areas will be above sea level.

The second map's boundaries on the continents are far less clear, but it has the names you were looking for.

So, Menelmacar will have the two large continents (but might be opening up about half of one of them depending how much interest there is in Eärendil colonies) but there are several small continents and countless lovely archipelagos available for colonization by other nations, provided they are willing to contribute to the terraforming effort. The oceans will also be available if someone wants an undersea city.

I'm not on my usual computer, but tomorrow I will be, and I'll draw Menelmacar's borders on the map and post it then.

~Siri

From what we see on your second map we are very interested in the Atalanta Planitia Its perfect for our needs.

Karakas: You do of course realize the planet is not yet terraformed? It's still a burning hellish sulfur-choked wasteland, and it could be centuries before anyone can survive on the surface outside a dome. Further, you'd be required to contribute financially and scientifically to the terraforming effort. If you're still interested, mark your boundaries and I'll let you know if it will work.

To anyone else interested: I highly do not recommend claiming the lowlands in the eastern part of Nauka Planitia (the deep blue part), as we'll likely be throwing an asteroid at that in the near future in order to speed up the planet's rotation. Assuming of course we find a suitably useless star system to do a 'dry run', of course. ;)

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The Snel and our citizens came up with a better way to induce the desired effects of a proper rotation so there is no real need to pelt the planet with Asteroids. We advise against such endeveurs as it endangers our Arcology on the surface of the planet.

OOC: Wow... I thought Venus was still being prepped for colonization by draining off most of the atmosphere and shipping it to Mars. You people work fast.

OOC: Actually, it is. Wazzu (which specializes in materials) colonized it anyway. I think one or two other nations may be on the surface (Pilon?), but everyone else is still in orbit.

Venus is the life dream of Pilon, we had been working on a suitable building material to land on Venus for years. As soon as the opurtunity came we jumped at the chance to land on Venus, we have one of our famous Arcologies on the surface, properly modified to withstand the extreme climate of Venus.

We would like the Tellas Regio part.
ooc: Got to go to clan war now so got to go.

OK. I'm saving solid borders for the final watery map, since large-scale colonization most certainly isn't taking place yet. I've marked down general regions on This Map (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/CDC.gif) (apologies to 56ers, I'll get it compressed ASAP), tell me if it makes everybody happy.

And kudos to Wazzu for giving me a pre-made border to copy over. 'Tis already in place on the watery map.

Next update: I've finally fixed the scale problems, so the watery map (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/VenusLand.gif) looks like it should now. Notice that I've so far only marked Wazzu's border. The rest shall come when you all tell me whether or not you like what I've marked on the CDC (Cytherea Dry Claims) map (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/CDC.gif).

Maps look good, where you put us is suitable for our needs, you can get rid of the ? if you like. THANK YOU

*bump*
Working on some new maps....

OOC: My Version (http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/iimperium/Venus.jpg) in case anyone wishes to use it, most people picked thir borders, apart from Pilon and Snel (who will doubtless want them changed...

Apologies for the background, eventually I'll change it to a better one...

The Wazzu border appears incorrect on that map, and I did pick my borders, they just didn't get put on the map yet. The new ones are
1) A very large detail map with geographical labels
2) An updated border map

The Wazzu border appears incorrect on that map,
I expanded them as there was no reason to restrict thier claim. I assumed that the map he had supplied was a bare minimum.

Okeydokey.
Here (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/VenusLand2.gif) is the border map to date. You will notice that it looks crappy. There is a good reason for that: The very first post of this thread asks people to tell me what borders they want, and as of yet I have recieved such only from Wazzu and Snel. Ergo, the borders morked right now are just general rounded off areas, based on the CDC map. C'tan, I'll do my best to copy over your borders from the map you made.

I should note that Siri also produced her borders on that map...

I should note that Siri also produced her borders on that map...
Eh... where? I have no link.

Eh... where? I have no link.
On this map... (http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/iimperium/Venus.jpg)

That's way out of the range specified in text and marked on the CDC map. Plus, it encroaches on other areas marked on the CDC map.