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What does everyone think about ships that can destroy planets? I'm talking uber-weaponry, even some capability to destroy suns.

If anyone has read the Culture books by Iain M Banks, that's what I'm talking about.

I'm basically wondering if anyone would accept it if I made a REAL GSV.

I autoignore anything that big.

Cardboard can`t destroy planets.

Wouldn't that kind of weapon kill you too?

Well, a planet killer would be very difficult to implement here.

1. It would destroy thousands of nations. In other words, thousands of nations would all work together to destroy you before you finish the weapon.

2. Judging by the amount of weaponry on ships and stations around NS Earth, a Planet Killer would never be allowed to enter firing range.

3. Explaining the physics behind such a weapon is practically impossible. Therefore, you'd have to go with "über-complex ancestral holy technology", and that is ignored by practically everybody.

OOC: There is no damn way any one nation (or even a large group of nations) can wield that kind of power. Murphy's sake, do you know how much power it takes to blow up a planet? A helluva lot.

Planet killers- impossible. They would get the big ignore from me.

The only way I could see how to kill a plannet would be to destroy the system, by causing the primary solar body to go nova. Probably to disbalancing the "Gravity, Force" ballance that keeps stars from exploding. Enough force, or enough of a gravitic disturbance, and the star will either colapse and turn into a nova, or explode, either way, taking the system with it.

Planet killers- impossible. They would get the big ignore from me.

Yes, and that would make us all so sad :cry:

The only way I could see how to kill a plannet would be to destroy the system, by causing the primary solar body to go nova. Probably to disbalancing the "Gravity, Force" ballance that keeps stars from exploding. Enough force, or enough of a gravitic disturbance, and the star will either colapse and turn into a nova, or explode, either way, taking the system with it.

OOC: What da hell are you saying?

Planetary Parameter Calculator

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/index.html

The only way I could see how to kill a plannet would be to destroy the system, by causing the primary solar body to go nova. Probably to disbalancing the "Gravity, Force" ballance that keeps stars from exploding. Enough force, or enough of a gravitic disturbance, and the star will either colapse and turn into a nova, or explode, either way, taking the system with it.

OOC: What da hell are you saying?

OOC: A LOT of physics, a lot of head hurting physics, or it maybe that I have not had my early morning coffee yet.

OOC: Why bother trying to make the star "go nova" when you can just concentrate blowing up the target i.e. the planet?

Right to explain my point-
How on earth wold you destroy a huge lump of rock? The amount of energy you would need to blow up a planet would mean you probally would have to biuld something massive. It quite simly is impossible.

Impossible for nations of our size... once you have 10 bn, i wouldn`t say it`s outright impossible...

Of course, it`s still stupid, you can just bomb the planet to hell... way cheaper, and it`s harder to destroy a few hundred or thousand ships than a single planet destroyer.

Right to explain my point-
How on earth wold you destroy a huge lump of rock? The amount of energy you would need to blow up a planet would mean you probally would have to biuld something massive. It quite simly is impossible.

*slap*

1. Comet-like impacts create tidal waves, immense dustclouds, etc. So slamming a large enough object with high speed into earth would be enough

2. If you aim really well, it should be possible to hit the earth's crust or core or something similar in such a way that each Volcano goes crazy

3. You don't have to destroy the planet, destroying the surface would be enough.

The force from destroying a planet would wipe out your ship.....

Well theres the Doctor M device or you could take out the planet if you could destablize the planets core so the planet destroys itself but you don't nessasrly need really have a weapon that can destory a planet, just make the other space nations think you do or in the case of ancient Aliens theres somer eason why their weapon of planetary destruction doesn't work anymore. But yes slaging the planets surface or at least bombing them back to the stone age from orbit would work just as well.

What does everyone think about ships that can destroy planets? I'm talking uber-weaponry, even some capability to destroy suns.

If anyone has read the Culture books by Iain M Banks, that's what I'm talking about.

I'm basically wondering if anyone would accept it if I made a REAL GSV.

OOC: I think, judging by the comments so far, that no one would accept a planet-busting ship. Sorry.

Well, the Belmores would accept it if they can make a sport out of it.

"Planet Busting! Place your bets now!"

*shivers* I'm sorry, but if anyone ever seriously claim to build a device I think I would be forced to ignore them, it's an unstoppable weapon if it hits something.

Well, the Belmores would accept it if they can make a sport out of it.

"Planet Busting! Place your bets now!"
Hmm...
Planet Football

Many future tech nations have large-scale weaponry like that.

Many future tech nations have large-scale weaponry like that.

It is easier to just bombard a planet untill it is just a big hunk of rock rather than actualy destroy it. Pluss if you destroy it, you cannot harvest the resources that are inside the planet crust and core. I really is just easier to torch the atmosphere (By consentrating a lot of firepower onto a small point. After a certain temperature, the Oxygen and Hydrogen, and a lot of other things, will ignite, killing everything in a large area. With no radiation!

(Trasnia/Xanthal)
No one's saying that it's a good idea, I'm just saying that many future nations could.

Well, you could snag an asteroid, and try to accelerate it into the planet. It might kill life on the surface, but not the planet itself. Of course, you could just detonate a nuke next to it to get it off course.

Note: I'm not particularly talking about actually destroying the planet, as was said, killing off the surface is enough.
This was intended as more of a debate, really - such as Xanthal's 'Apocalypse' ship. There didn't seem to be a huge outcry against that, so I was looking to garner some general opinion.

Der Angst: You ever heard of RP? I suppose you are one of the people who judge what a nation should be able to do based on population...ie, "You must be 100million to use nukes OMFGz N00b!11!!1"

Frankly, all the people who were against stuff like that already ignored me beforehand. That's not my first superweapon.

Ugh... superweapons. People watch Star Wars and think, OMFG, D347# 574|25 4|23 7#3 (00|_Z0|2!!!!!!shiftonehelddown!!!!1!!!

The resource requirements are insane, they aren't tactically useful, and said resources would go so much better into giant armadas or something... but, as a gameplay issue, I say planetkillers are right out.

--Hearty Aerospacewanker Pirate Cap'n Scolo

I have Planetbuster ships, thought it takes five (I currently have fifteen), they are 25 miles long, and it takes a day to chrage the guns fully. They cannon be charged to start with because the massive amount of energy affects reality around and in the ship.
The guns can be partialy chraged for use against other ships in about ten seconds, and still do quite a bit of damage.
So, planetkillers are quite legal, unless it takes five seconds to turn a planet into component molocules. As long as it has some weakness, EG: It takes a helluva long time to charge, its OK. Obviously, this is futuretech only territory, unless were talking massive amounts of nukes. So, I would say it would be OK for moderns to ignore planetdestroyers.

Super weapons have almost no practical application, and they consume huge amounts of resources. People build them anyway as a power statement. It's nice to be able to say "if I wanted to, I could vaporize your entire solar system".

You don't to really have one, just make so your enemy thinks you have one.

I have a doomsday weapon, the Morning Star. it can strip away the layer of Ozone above any planet. I dare no use it, thogh, for fear of international revenge. I usualy just use it for tanning.

Super weapons have almost no practical application, and they consume huge amounts of resources. People build them anyway as a power statement. It's nice to be able to say "if I wanted to, I could vaporize your entire solar system".
Oh, I see... the ultimate steel penis.

--Hearty Aerospacewanker Pirate Cap'n Scolo

Super weapons have almost no practical application, and they consume huge amounts of resources. People build them anyway as a power statement. It's nice to be able to say "if I wanted to, I could vaporize your entire solar system".
Oh, I see... the ultimate steel penis.

--Hearty Aerospacewanker Pirate Cap'n Scolo

*jots down this in his GREAT BIG NS QUOTES OF DOOOOOOM booklet.*

(Trasnia/Xanthal)
No one's saying that it's a good idea, I'm just saying that many future nations could.

IC: Naturally Steel Butterfly is capable of this easy technology...but we feel that we don't need this to instill fear in the universe.

OOC: As long as it is well RPed...and the target accepts the fact that their planet is about to be destroyed...it's ok. If you use it to win a war that you're losing, or bombard an enemy without asking them before hand...then it's most definately godmod.

I have Planetbuster ships, thought it takes five (I currently have fifteen), they are 25 miles long, and it takes a day to chrage the guns fully. They cannon be charged to start with because the massive amount of energy affects reality around and in the ship.
The guns can be partialy chraged for use against other ships in about ten seconds, and still do quite a bit of damage.
So, planetkillers are quite legal, unless it takes five seconds to turn a planet into component molocules. As long as it has some weakness, EG: It takes a helluva long time to charge, its OK. Obviously, this is futuretech only territory, unless were talking massive amounts of nukes. So, I would say it would be OK for moderns to ignore planetdestroyers.

A mid july nation with 15 starships that are 25 miles long each?