NationStates Jolt Archive

]I do have backups. I'm not sure exactly how to extract particular threads from them, but I can investigate. The forums are periodically purged of threads that aren't replied to for 60+ days (and aren't stickies) and have been pretty much since NationStates has been running... this wasn't a recent snap decision or anything. The mods do know about this. I suggested we could create an "Archive" forum for threads that should never be purged, but people seemed to feel that important threads could be periodically bumped or replied to, so that's how it works at the moment. But the offer remains: we can establish that Archive forum if enough people support the idea. (You can start a petition or something if you like.)

Post here to show your support for an archive.

Supported.

Support.

Thirded.

More! Archive! Please?

And another one all for it. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1883890#1883890)

me too. I'd support that...

ARCHIVE!!!

That's be pretty cool.

Who would judge what's archive-worthy?

Of course (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83243&highlight=) I support (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83519&highlight=) some sort of archive (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84025&highlight=) or something. Please, please, please - and if at all possible, please bring back all that from the recent purge so we can go through it. I'll warrant you'd get a lot of help just by the players bumping the pertinent threads to the top of the archive to assist filtering out - hell, I volunteer to do just that if you want. And no, I wouldn't play favorites. Anything that had generated a lot of intererest or had an ongoing storyline I'd be in favor of pushing up there. Would get rid of all the filler.

Anyways, yes. Sorry for my lack of eloquence this morning. M'tired. *grins*

As already stated elsewhere: very much supported. Pleaaaasee bring the old threads back. All in favour of an archive.

*begs and grovels*

sounds good to me!

I'm for it

I support it.

[tags a support note to the board]

Support, of course

I support this

My very first rp is in there. :(

I give my support. Long live the treads!

Support.

Supported of course. But why not also save some threads that you might deem worthy on your harddrive?

Very much twenty-firsted - old NS and to some extent II threads are the back-continuity of the forums.

Yes, definitely.

As for saving things on our hard drives, that would be all well and good if we were given a little warning first, like "oh by the way, unless you want to lose old threads into the Void for all eternity, you might want to save them onto your hard drive right about now." Otherwise its not really feasible, we'd just have to save *everything* to the hard drive on the paranoid suspicion that it'd be deleted.

I suppose. I usually save threads that I think are critical (and usually the ones I've participated in :) ) on my hard drive. But the thing is, who gets to determine which threads go into an archive? There is only so much room. I know spam threads can be left out but storyline threads? Save them all? A warning might be nice I guess. But if it's an automatic purge then I guess a mod or admin would have to manually say "Okay, threads X,Y, and Z will be gone tomorrow." Bit of a hassle on their part.

I am in support of an archive.

Archive yes

Go for it!

You have my support, little that it matter though.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

As for what could be moved to an archive, , how about simply any thread that contains serious NS-related (sorry, the RPing in General just doesn't count) roleplaying? There are some threads people want to keep (like I would just about have a heart attack if I lost the "Echoes of Lives Lost" thread- s'got important backstory stuff for my nation), and some that are... eh... not so important (such as the infamous n00b-mocking "MY STEEL PENISES WILL PROTECT ME!")

That's my $0.02

~Evil Empress Rep Prod the Game Mod

I and all my puppets support this brilliant idea.

I like the idea... as long as it isn't too much of an inconvenience on anyone.

--Hearty Aerospacewanker Pirate Cap'n Scolo
(a far too nice guy)

I'm in full support of an archive, shame none of my posts are in threads worthy of being archived yet :(

I like the idea... as long as it isn't too much of an inconvenience on anyone.

It's okay, we can get you to do all the work :P

I like the idea... as long as it isn't too much of an inconvenience on anyone.

--Hearty Aerospacewanker Pirate Cap'n Scolo
(a far too nice guy)

er how would it be an inconvenience on anyone? :?

You have my support.

It's got my support.

I support it.

Yeah, we definitely need this. :)

*Raises hand ominously*

My support. Definitely. I've seen far too many awesome threads pass by me in the six months I've been here, and seeing them archived would be awesome. It feels like a terrible waste, to see all those great RPs, from before my time, from my time, and anything else really good from anytime that would be purged periodically. An archive seems like the ideal thing for it. You have my full support, everyone who's already posted.

I support, I wonder what the first thread in NS was like :?:

I support, I wonder what the first thread in NS was like :?:Probably the llamas vs. squirrels thread...

SIGNED,

Lord Martin Goobergunch
President of the Republic of Goobergunchia
Democratic Underground Regional Delegate
United NationStates Anti Oppression and Tyranny Organization Member
Newbie Protection Agency Member

I wonder what the first thread in NS was like :?:

Found it!

]Welcome to the forums!

(I'm sure this will never catch on)

Just kidding

Ooh, it's stickied too. Impressive.

-Nik

Oh, and I throw my full support behind this. So people will stop yelling at me for gravedigging.

-Nik

I support this all the way. When I noticed my first War RP's were gone I almost threw a fit and set fire to my computer. Too many good memories lost, and not enough being forged lately to get rid of 'em.

I miss my nuke thread....

I miss my nuke thread....

I miss his nuke thread...

(Everyone join in!)

-Nik

Definitely. I'd even help sort through the threads to determine what is worth saving (RPs, Significant postings, worthy (famous) flame-wars and mockeries (unless really offensive)) and what should just be dumped (some flame-filled junk, irrelevant posts).

Support!

As said,good memorys lost... Not only I still want to go back to my old days with the war RPs I remember, I also want to check up a few OOC good war RP-related posts :)

Support!

As said,good memorys lost... Not only I still want to go back to my old days with the war RPs I remember, I also want to check up a few OOC good war RP-related posts :)

Off-topic: Congratulations on 10,000 posts!

This has been an OOC post.

Support.

supported

ARCHIVE! ARCHIVE!! ARCHIVE!!!

Supported. :D

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Supported.

Full support, lol, I put too much in my guides to loose them!

A suggestion:

I do not know how posts area stored, but if it would be easy to convert them to .TXT format, that would save a great deal of room. Hence, the hard-drives holding this site would not be so burdened.


---The (only partly tech-savvy) Entire States.

Full support. :|

Long Live the Republic!

Dimélda go Brâch!

supported

Another good thing about Archives is that you can probably start purging every 30 days, which would cut down on some space.... but the important thing is that some threads should REALLY be saved for posterity. The one that comes to mind first are the World Cup threads :P

So yes, full support :)

And would it help if I gave you the numbers of the threads that were baleeted and we want back?


EDIT: 13075, 22803, 25108, 30178, 30187, 30547, 33416, 35169, 41735, 42835, 43675, 47763. Thats all the main World Cup threads, minus possibly one exception that I don't have and will prolly never be found....

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How about a rating system for threads that get a certain number of good ratings it stays?

*ahem* I, Fyreheart, support the archiving of threads on NationStates. Now, I must eat.

Mmmm.....Doritos....

Archive! I'm tired of copying all my old threads to my computer :P

SUPPORT!

Supported.

*sneaks back in line to pledge support again*

Supported!

*gives up all dignity and falls crying on the floor*
pleease [Violet] please..... :cry:

I support it.

I support this but if i could take a little time to advertise my region The Wonderwhale Land. The WonderWhale land is a small region that needs your support. plz plz plz plz look i'm begging now look what you've done for shame for shame

Supported.

5uP0r+3d!

As someone who often draws inspiration from his earlier writings for the books and stories I write, it would be a great service to be able to review my old writings. I implore you to allow the archiving of threads.

A poor starving writer and college student.

Supported! I'm tired of going back to my old threads to check something and finding it deleted.

I support this also

Yes

supported!

For

Kalessin
GMC Military Arms
Rondebosch
The Most Glorius Hack
Der Angst
Liverpool England
Celack
Alibakkar
Dread Lady Nathicana
Knootoss
Falasmayon
Taka
Iraqstan
Angelus
Crimmond
Diminix
Western Might
Sebytania
Vrak
The Territory
Santa Barbara
Vrak
Rianisis
Padmasa
Reploid Productions
Total n Utter Insanity
Scolopendra
Draconis Nightcrawlis
Automagfreek
Emero Gaza
B4kst4br
Haraki
Thelas
Goobergunchia
The Damned People
Pantera
Garrison II
Western Asia
Omz222
Eridanus
Strangelovania
Syskeyia
New Genoa
Jennivier
The Entire States
Dimelda
The Belmore Family
Abit_the_motherboard
Fyreheart
Capsule Corporation
Apollopoli
Feline
The Eastern Bloc
Turtle Racers
Wolf Kingdom
Independant Pluto
Grimdale
Tsaraine
Henceland Omega
Ell
Mega Tau
Nianacio

Total Signatures For=61


Against

Sentient Peoples

Total Signatures Against=1

I support it.
]The forums are periodically purged of threads that aren't replied to for 60+ days (and aren't stickies) and have been pretty much since NationStates has been running... this wasn't a recent snap decision or anything.My first post ever was accessible less than a month ago, I think. :?

I support it.
]The forums are periodically purged of threads that aren't replied to for 60+ days (and aren't stickies) and have been pretty much since NationStates has been running... this wasn't a recent snap decision or anything.My first post ever was accessible less than a month ago, I think. :?

Yeah. For instance, I remember looking at the first Amerigan Slave War thread only a couple weeks ago.

Against

Sentient Peoples

Total Signatures Against=1

Erm...Sentient Peoples was 'for' as well.

Wow! I'm mentioned twice!

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Of course (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83243&highlight=) I support (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83519&highlight=) some sort of archive (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84025&highlight=) or something. Please, please, please - and if at all possible, please bring back all that from the recent purge so we can go through it. I'll warrant you'd get a lot of help just by the players bumping the pertinent threads to the top of the archive to assist filtering out - hell, I volunteer to do just that if you want. And no, I wouldn't play favorites. Anything that had generated a lot of intererest or had an ongoing storyline I'd be in favor of pushing up there. Would get rid of all the filler.

Anyways, yes. Sorry for my lack of eloquence this morning. M'tired. *grins*

Well, I don't actually have a problem with the purge - BUT! (don't leap on me and rip me to shreds just yet... ;)) I can see the problem that other people have with it. And, being me, I most definitely therefore support the archive. No, it didn't take me a long time to say one thing, because I'm actually saying two. So there.

Also, I'd be willing to help out with a bump 'n' archive type filtering thang, if required. More than willing. Hell, I don't have anything else to do around here. ;)

NO! My first post is gone! I was gonna do a history thing! Wonderful admin above, please help!

Supports

An archive is an excellent idea and I'm certain alot of people would help; I would make time to.

Support.

support

SUPPORT

I lost a lot of hard work because I didn't know of the 60 day limit. I support an Archive so I can stick research and testing threads there and point to them when people scream "Godmod, where did you get/buy/borrow/beg those weapons!"

I WANT MY TANIWHA REASEARCH THREAD BACK, boo hoo hoo.

I miss my nuke thread....

I miss his nuke thread...

(Everyone join in!)

-Nik

I miss a nuke thread... what nuke thread? I'd be able to review it if there was an archive holding it...

An archive would be great.

Support.

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Support

Wombat News definitely supports this one - we've lost all of our old reports!! Waaah waaah boo hoo sob ...

Just out of curiousity, is anyone in a position to do something about this observing this thread? And I repeat my earlier support for an archieve.

Read the first post! [Violet] is able and willing to make an archive, but she doesn't want to waste time and effort making something that isn't wanted, and so needs us to show our support for such action first.

We support the request for archives

Supported

DarkSith and puppets add their support to the creation of an archive for inactive useful threads.

(Pssst. Define "useful")

Uh? Oh. As a rule of thumb, everything from the NS, UN and II forums and nothing from General. There may be exceptions in both cases, but as a general rule I think it works. I am not sure about Moderation, Technical or the other forums, though.

Think that we are talking about an archive for "dead" threads, not a "historic" forum. The idea is accessing the info there, not adding posts. How will we access the threads? How will they be sorted? SQL database and search engine?

I support this. The Purge wasn't so bad, but with my pack-rat personality coupled with paranoia, I've saved many of my threads as PDFs. But I understand that not many people are like this. Plus, an archive forum would be nice, for a "Find By Content" sort of thing.

Support.

Support! Those old ANH threads were some of my favorite reading material!

Supported.

*Expresses Support*

Well, I do believe that there was an archives site called: web.archive.com or some similar thing. It would take you back to the very first posts, probably. I haven't tried it on Nationstates, yet.
It's http://web.archive.org, and it's called the Wayback machine!

You mean http://www.archive.org/web/web.php ?

Yeah, not there, already tried. It actually archives very little. :P

Ah! *Sob!* I would have loved to read about this Slavery War I keep hearing about. Was it like World War III or what?

schmuported.

sopportified

Sure! Yes! Of Course! (no sarcasm I'm agreeing with you)

Supported!

Ah! *Sob!* I would have loved to read about this Slavery War I keep hearing about. Was it like World War III or what?

Major Wars of NationStates: An Index (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41193&highlight=)

There's a link to the Amerigan Slave War index and a summary in there. The index still exists, but the threads linked inside are all gone....:(

Supported (YAY!!)

:mrgreen:

Mr. green always looks weird

Supported

Supported

I support it.

Well, I do believe that there was an archives site called: web.archive.com or some similar thing. It would take you back to the very first posts, probably. I haven't tried it on Nationstates, yet.
It's http://web.archive.org, and it's called the Wayback machine!
Tried that:

Got this:
We're sorry, access to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84640&start=100 has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.
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Have already posted "support"

I pledge my support.

Support +1

Supported.

Supported

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~~~IvyLynn~~~
~Eris's Player~

Me too, I support this wonderful idea. We had some great ANH threads in there.

Pretty please with ice cream, whipped cream, nuts and a cherry on top?

I'm all for archives.

Oh, and maybe make the search option so it can actually find things in them?

Supported. We've already lost the old World Cup threads, I think, and that should never have happened... :(

Support +1


lol


Support++;

(Well I already did but still)

I support this.

Support here, as well! Good idea. :)

Me too, I support this wonderful idea. We had some great ANH threads in there.

Pretty please with ice cream, whipped cream, nuts and a cherry on top?

Archive them now, before you have to buy the book :)

Our game's history must be preserved!

Support as well

Supported

Support!

i support this archive!

0_o
*_*

seems like a good idea to me - Supported!

Supported!

Supported.

add me to the list of supporters

Supported!

same, add me as well.

Deny!


Uh...I mean SUPPORT!!!

Okies, Supported too.

Supported, I need my old stories back!

AHAHAHHAHAHAH I need my old stories for reference...this is slightly upsetting... :shock:

I'm in favor. (signs petition)

Yes, yes, yes. Supported! Hell, I'd pay money for an archive if there wasn't any other way to get it.

Very much supported! Hell, I'd still Athamasha's money and use it to pay for an archive if there wasn't any other way to get it.

I definitely support.

I definitely support!

I support the archive.

i support it, but only because we want our old World Cup threads to be saved :)

Supported.

Supported

A brilliant idea! Jolly good! :) My full support to you!

As if you didn't have enough support already...

Supported.

support. good idea

what's the count so far? :?: :?: :?: :?:

what's the count so far? :?: :?: :?: :?:
Whatever it was + 1 (w00t, archives! Full steam ahead!)

I support the archives as well. It would be good to look over some of these old stories.

Go archive, go archive!

Hmm... When will [violet] make his/her decision anyways? I just can't wait :P

i support the idea. what form will it take? does it really need to be like the forums? or can we simply download a zip of every thread that has "died" in the previous thirty days?

Hmm... When will [violet] make his/her decision anyways? I just can't wait :P

Ditto.

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It's here!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=11

THANK YOU [violet]!

w00ty w00t LOLZ!!!!!1111!!1

I 168th that motion! :D
:idea:
I SUPPORT!!!!
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