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The Neural Stimulator

It consists on a "blanket" of a special fabric that holds tens of thousands of sensorial stimulators. Those stimulators act on the heat, pressure and pain neural sensors of the part of the body covered with the blanket.

It has several degrees of stimulation. The highest setting is equivalent to have the exposed part simultaneously bathed in molten metal, crushed by a hammer, and needled a thousand times. As the covered part is not physically harmed, the neural sensors are not destroyed, as would happen with using molten metal, for instance. Thus, the sensory input keeps going, with slight variations to avoid the body to adapt to the pain levels.

Also, as it doesn't harm the body, it leaves no physical evidence.

Tested on humans, elves, orcs and Hell Bovines. Use on orcs on the lower settings is not advised. They seem to like it.

Bitension: 125-220v.

Price: 1000 $. Shipping and handling not included. No COD orders accepted.

Warnings:

Don't use on the subject's head, as it leads to a brain shutdown, rendering the subject inconscious and unable to deliver any information.
Subjects with heart conditons can experiment seizures and even death.
Do not use when driving or practicing any other hazardous activity.
Keep out of the reach of the children. And kenders. Specially kenders.
It doesn't emit any kind of emission harmful to either the subject or the questioner.

SPECIAL OFFER: The first 10 orders will come with free gags to avoid any kind of noise coming from the subject while being interrogated.


NEW!

High Tech Sensory Arrest Chamber

High psychological effects. Disorientation guaranteed in less than 12 hours, madness in about 48, and death not very long after that.

In between the disorientation and madness, there is a point most people are so eager to have any kind of stimulus that they will sell their own mothers or change allegiance in exchange.

This device consists in a repulsorlift field that negates gravity effects, leaving the subject with no sensation of weight. Added to a light that doesn't change with either opening or closing the eyes. The anullation of any kind of corporeal feedback through local anesthesics and a secret procedure that baffles any shout the subject can emit, so the subject cannot hear his/her own screams.

Tested on humans, orcs, elves and most other races. The only difference comes in the time needed for the effects to occur. It comes with a manual that includes a table for the different races. It is specially effective on elves and any race that relies heavily on his senses. Elves can be even "convinced" to despise his own race, though this effect is too short-lived to be of any value, besides the extracting of information that can be used against its race.

Important note: this device is useless against DarkSithian or any other race that is attuned to the Force. For the device to have any effect on them you need to add an animal, the ysalarimi, that nullifies the subject's access to the Force.

Sensory arrest chamber Price: 1000000$ (one million)
Ysalarimi (one neutered (OOC: NOT Sputnik)) price: 1000000000 (one billion)
Ysalarimi couple price: 10000000000000 (Ten trillion)

C'mon, no one has someone to extract information from?

No dictators around?

No Evil Overlords(TM)?

An agent of an agent of an agent who can't be reliably connected to anyone of any significance quietly places an order for one.

klingon painstick much worse

(Encoded:

Finara, one neural stimultator confirmed en route. Included gag.)

((Not that it really matters but...What kind of gag?))

Actually, we have made tests, and that is not exactly true. The neural stimulator activates simultaneously the neural sensors for heat, pressure and pain. The painstick activates just the pain sensors.

Besides, it just has one setting. It lacks finesse.

For you to be aware of the effects, at its max it can be only measured up against a device called the Excruciator. But that device was tailored to the race that built and used it. It would have killed any lesser being almost immediately. Even though there are Ur-Quan around here, I seriously doubt they have any working Excruciator, I am sure they wouldn't sell it to anyone, and besides, they seem to be too busy in a Doctrinal War for selling anything.

(This is still encoded

((Not that it really matters but...What kind of gag?))

One for muffling the shouts of the subject being... questioned.

It is an offer that appears in my post.
)

I know what a gag is. What kind?

The Five Civilized Nations do not believe in torture... We do not condone your creation of such a twisted device...

We will order one, just for scientifical purposes. You can keep the gag.

Disgusting...

Famicon, one neural stimulator, confirmed. 1000$.

As per your request, no gag.

Disgusting...

I just have updated the store, thanks for reminding me...

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Use on orcs on the lower settings is not advised. They seem to like it.
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Sounds like you have a good Arda market item there....

The Grand Duchy of Pyrtania requests to order one of these items. We would prefer that the gag be an iron ring gag fitted for the maximum expansion of an elven mouth.

((Not that it really matters but...What kind of gag?))

OOC: A running one, it would seem. Cheers. 8)

Pyrtania, one stimulator confimed. Sorry, the gag is a standard S&M model. A ball with two pieces of string to tie it. Included with the order.

That will suffice. We already have proper gags for torturing the sub-human creatures in abundance.

Pyrtania, do as you please, but I think risking the wrath of BEB is not a good move.

The intention for these devices is the efficient and bloodless extraction of information, they are not intended for torturing for fun. But whatever floats your boat...

((Heehee. The Grand Duke already has the wrath of like, well, everybody. Including his own subjects.))

Oh, well... Another post, another happy client.

BUMPlash!

:twisted:

Any Inquisitor with something to inquire?

Any elf-hating nation doing some elf-bashing?

How about a deposed warlord trying to get back in power? I'll order ten neural stimulators for those who helped throw me out of power. Please deliver to the following coordinates.

*coordinates encripted and sent with payment*

Snoochie Boochies, ;)
General Michael Grant III

(Encoded response

Order confirmed. Ten neural stimulators with ten free gags.

Have fun. Your enemies won't.

)

Interesting fact about this thread:

I thought it would have a stronger response, either from purchases or from peace-loving, human-rights-defenders pathetic democracies et al.

But it seems I was wrong. In both.

So much the better. :)

It seems I haven't "crossed the line". I was afraid specially of the response to the "tested on elves" part, but it seems that is all right, as long as I don't make a special distinction from any race.

Hey, HB, the "tested on Hell Bovines" part is nothing personal. Don't be upset.

I think I'll add more Pain Toys (TM).

Shop open. And BUMP.

B-U-M-P

Interesting that you seem to take such particular interest in testing these... 'items' on my Kin. You will cease and desist doing so. Immediately. Or you will face the consequences.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
~US President George W. Bush
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:shock:

Errr.. Ummm...

It was a bump post.

It was an OOC post.

It was a figment of your imagination.

(gathering a little of the Force)

These are not the droids... Sorry, wrong suggestion... This thread is not worthy of your attention. Nothing bad happens to elves in this thread. You are free to crush any other elf-hating nations around.

(OOC?: I haven't made any special effort to distinguish elves from any other race. Just pointing special side effects that appear on any race, like the orcs, and I haven't seen Melky growling around. Or mine. I even sell items that can be used against a DarkSithian. But I was afraid that someone would see only the "elfs" part and start shouting racist. We DarkSithians hate all races equally. Well, Tersanctus and Tor Yvresse may be exceptions, but that's besides the point.

Actually, with all the idiots elven-bashing around, if I remark the effects on elves I mught sell more. Oh, and all the transactions in this thread are highly encripted and secure. I will leak any information about a purchase I deem useful for the advancement of my evil plans (like what I did to Crimmond about the pyrtanian purchase), but otherwise, this information is ICly unknown.)

Bloodless torture? It will never catch on. I'm sorry, when I first heard of this thread I was going to place a large order for the Holy Roanian Inquisition, but with no blood I'll take my business elsewhere.

~Cardinal Johannes Richelieu
Grand Inquisitor

Brainwashing people is a little more useful, I think. And sensory arrest makes anyone quite willing to attend any kind of suggestion.

And the Neural Stimulator works wonders when you need a force labor in prime working efficiency, but appropiately submisive.

We have several other items in the works, but all of them are bloodless, too. When we finish with the tests (and the subjects) we will see if we place them here or not.

BUMP on an elf. :)

BUMP on a orc. A stronger one, as they are sturdier.

Oh, Roania, it might interest you to acquire my second-hand, low-tech information gathering devices.

Nothing out of the ordinary here, just some old-fashioned Iron Maidens, member-crushing presses (including breasts and ahem... male organs), whips and cat o'nine tails, marking irons, blinding strings, entrail carvers, skinning knives, nailbeds and one pendulum.

All the lot for just two million. All cleaned up of any... unbecoming stain.

(OOC: Of course they are cleaned up. We don't want anyone tracing on who were those... devices used.)

DarkSith, check your TG's

We have our Excruciators. Your mechanisms seem useless to us. What is the point of this, alien? Madness? Pain? We have lived through both. The reason, the reason why you do this, escapes us. Maybe we should rethink our doctrinal position. Even as the War rages on.

Some place behind in this thread someone doubted the efectiveness of our device. This was our answer:

For you to be aware of the effects, at its max it can be only measured up against a device called the Excruciator. But that device was tailored to the race that built and used it. It would have killed any lesser being almost immediately. Even though there are Ur-Quan around here, I seriously doubt they have any working Excruciator, I am sure they wouldn't sell it to anyone, and besides, they seem to be too busy in a Doctrinal War for selling anything.

As strange as it may seem to you, pain is one method of extracting information from sentient beings. And the obtention of information is another way of being safe in the universe. There are some, more brutal species, that delve in the pain of others and use these same means just for having fun. That is not acceptable. But it is part of the universe we live on. The same you think we are not suitable to judge your Doctrinal War and its possible effects thereafter, we think you should not be so eager to judge and condemn any alien race that doesn't live up to your high moral and ethic standards.

(OOC: For anyone not understanding this, the Ur-Quan ARE very ethic, even the followers of the Eternal Doctrine. They don't take pleasure in genocide or in pain. They think that the efficient killing of any non Ur-Quan race makes the universe a safer place for them.)

We don't need them because wouldn't the victim go into shock?
We also have ones that actually effect the brain receptors and nerve endings making them erratic and hyper sensitive all the while keeping them from going in to shock before we kill them.

<( Encrypted message begins )>

We are interested in aquiring two of your sensory deprivation units, and six of these ... blankets. We wish to do some testing of our own.

Please send information as to payment arrangements, and of course, as always, we trust to your confidentiality in this matter.

~~ Leisl Maurer, Science Minister of Dominae

<( end message )>
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"Arrangements have been requested, awaiting word," Leisl assured President Costanzi.

The woman nodded thoughtfully. "Keep me informed on progress. And Leisl, compose a message with the pertinent details and get it back to me. I'd like to notify the Lady to expect a shipment soon. I think she'll be pleased with the new toys." She paused, tapping her lip with the capped end of her pen. "At least, I believe she will be ..."

Order confirmed. Price will be two million. Consider the neural stimulators a gift.

BUMP on a DarkSithian. He didn't see it coming. heh.

<( Encrypted message begins )>

Most satisfactory. We thank you for your gracious gift.

Please confirm receipt of the funds to the designated account - it's been a pleasure doing business with you.

~~ Leisl Maurer, Science Minister of Dominae

<( end message )>

Highy Encoded message:

We wish for one of each device for "Testing" purposes, we will wire 1,001,000 Creds upon confirmation.

END

Order confirmed.

Shipment to indicated coordintes.

Have fun. Your enemies won't.

<( Encrypted message begins )>

Most satisfactory. We thank you for your gracious gift.

Please confirm receipt of the funds to the designated account - it's been a pleasure doing business with you.

~~ Leisl Maurer, Science Minister of Dominae

<( end message )>

Money received. Thank you.

We wish to order ten of your sensory deprivation devices, they seem humane compared to some of the more traditional information extraction tools.

Order confirmed.

Shipment to indicated coordintes.

Have fun. Your enemies won't.

It has been a plesure.

We wish to order ten of your sensory deprivation devices, they seem humane compared to some of the more traditional information extraction tools.

That'll be ten million. We confirm that these devices do no physical harm.

(OOC: Actually that is true, but it is also true that "traditional" means leave the subject way less psychologically scarred. The sensory arrest torture is mentally worse than seeing your arms and legs broken before your eyes. It is the most powerful brainwashing technique. But it leaves no traces.)

Bloodless torture? It will never catch on. I'm sorry, when I first heard of this thread I was going to place a large order for the Holy Roanian Inquisition, but with no blood I'll take my business elsewhere.

~Cardinal Johannes Richelieu
Grand Inquisitor

Oh Cardinal... the Inquisition is supposed to only employ methods which DON'T draw blood. :D

The Pantocratorian Ministry of Cultural Development would like to order a set of 100 neural stimulators.

Order confirmed. $100000 (one hundred thousand) total order. One hundred free gags included.

Money wired.

OOC: The people we intend to use it on are going to be easier to guard if they are a little messed up in the head, besides which we won't leave them in there for 24 hours.

(OOC: It is a statistical matter, but with 24 hour some people will end in the asylum. Most of the others will be anxiously willing to believe anything you tell them. Soldiers resist better than civilians, but they are more prone to break than to bend.)

Order confirmed. $100000 (one hundred thousand) total order. One hundred free gags included.

41667 ducats ($100,000 US) wired and filed in the Ministry's financials as "photocopier replacement parts".

:shock:

Errr.. Ummm...

It was a bump post.

It was an OOC post.

It was a figment of your imagination.

(gathering a little of the Force)

These are not the droids... Sorry, wrong suggestion... This thread is not worthy of your attention. Nothing bad happens to elves in this thread. You are free to crush any other elf-hating nations around.

(OOC?: I haven't made any special effort to distinguish elves from any other race. Just pointing special side effects that appear on any race, like the orcs, and I haven't seen Melky growling around. Or mine. I even sell items that can be used against a DarkSithian. But I was afraid that someone would see only the "elfs" part and start shouting racist. We DarkSithians hate all races equally. Well, Tersanctus and Tor Yvresse may be exceptions, but that's besides the point.

Actually, with all the idiots elven-bashing around, if I remark the effects on elves I mught sell more. Oh, and all the transactions in this thread are highly encripted and secure. I will leak any information about a purchase I deem useful for the advancement of my evil plans (like what I did to Crimmond about the pyrtanian purchase), but otherwise, this information is ICly unknown.)
I should note that it doesn't matter if you're just trying to sell your goods... if you are able to discuss test data regarding Elves, you would have to have tested it on Elves. Either that or you're misleading your customers, which is a practice that annoys me only slightly less.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
~US President George W. Bush
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Secret IC:
I'll have a dozen of those wonderful Ysalarimi creatures if you please, nutered if you must...

(There follows brief arrrangements for transport and payment.)

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The Messenger (http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/iimperium/20.jpg)
Shadow Ruler of the C'tan Confederacy, Hidden excecutive of all states, colonies, holdings, and protectorates therein.

Public IC:

Lady Sirithil, while I must agree that testing such devices on elves is contemptable, as indeed is all torture not forced by the direst circumstances, I fail to see how this is specific persecution of eleves, rather than persection of anyone who falls foul of the Darksithian regime, and while I hate to say it, one can hardly go around disposing of every such regime.

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Princeps Senatus Karl Kopinski
'Benevolent' Quasi-Dictator of the C'tan Confederacy, Excecutive of all states, colonies, holdings, and protectorates therein.

InSec will purchase 2 blankets and 1 sensory deprivation unit. Money will be wired on confirmation of order.

Thelas would like to order three more sens dep units, money will be automaticaly wired upon confirmation.

OOC: Menelmacar, I like you new sig "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory.
~US President George W. Bush"

From a fan of the US President. :D

(Encoded 1)

Thelas, Order confirmed. Three Chambers, three million.

(End Encoded 1)

(Encoded 2)

Vernii, order confirmed. One chamber, two stimulators, one million two thousand.

(End Encoded 2)

(Encoded)

The Ctan, twelve neutered ysalarimi, twelve billion. Order confirmed.

(End Encoded)

(OOC: As you can imagine, we will be watching you closely. These beasts have only one purpose and we don't like it too much.)

To the nation of Menelmacar:

It seems that the fact that a lot of losers have been elf-bashing of late has got to you and finally clouded your better judgement.

We forgive you.

You forgot two distinct possibilities that can be the source for the elven response data to our information gathering devices:

1) Discreet release of several prototypes to a third, undisclosed nation where those those tests were performed and the data gathered delivered to us.

2) Well-paid volunteers, with say, 1 million or life-long support of their families in the event of decease during test.

So, if your trigger-happy soldiers need some exercise, or you feel the compulsion to crush some elf-hating nation, please do so elsewhere.

Have a nice day.




BIIIIDAH.

(OOC: As you can imagine, we will be watching you closely. These beasts have only one purpose and we don't like it too much.)

OOC: They'll be used in improving the existing pariahs the C'tan have somewhat, but I doubt you'd see them again, given that the C'tan don't really have any grief with you.

IC: The 'Messenger' picked out one of the creatures to play with for a while, and sent the rest down to be cathalogued and experimented with.

dude. with a few modifications to the type of "stimulation" the blanket provides, you could enter a much more, caring industry. ;) how bout it?

DarkSith: Surely, then, you would be amenable to the idea of Menelmacari inspectors coming to your nation to ensure your honesty in this matter? After all, if you're really not testing on Elves, or if the testing is voluntary, then you have nothing to hide and nothing to fear. Right?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
~US President George W. Bush
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dude. with a few modifications to the type of "stimulation" the blanket provides, you could enter a much more, caring industry. ;) how bout it?

If you do Thelas would like a couple for reaserch purposes.

--A Govnerment official

Actually, that device is being tested right now.

But it is not a blanket.

It is a gun.

You point it to the subject's head and light his/her brain pleasure centers like a christmas tree.

Why invest in such apparently out of the line product?

The pure stimulation of the pleasure centers brings the subject to a state highly suggestionable and manipulable. Also, the subject tends to see the questioner as a friend, and wise usage of a questioner of opposite sex brings maximum results. Additionally, this gun can cause addiction on the subject, adding even more ways to exert pressure on him/her.

The problem it has is that effects vary not only from race to race, but even from subject to subject. Soldiers with high motivation, fanatics, and simply strong-willed people resist and even withstand the gun quite easily.

We are still performing tests and looking ways to improve its usability.

Menelmacar:

I don't know in your country, but in ours, and it qualifies as a dictatorship, applies in full effect the line "innocent until proven guilty". Not even the Emperor dares to play with the judicial power here. That is one of the reasons the population don't feel opressed.

We don't need to prove our innocence. It is up to you to prove that the people at the R&D lab or at the state-owned factory breaks any law. National or International.

You are even getting in the muddy waters of breaching corporate secrets.

You start to remind me of a certain country that invaded another on claims that they were producing Weapons of Mass Destruction.

You start to remind me of a certain country that invaded another on claims that they were producing Weapons of Mass Destruction.
OOC: That nation was correct in doing so. But please don't resort to RL politicswanking, thanks.

IC: Oh? How are we supposed to do so if you won't let us in to investigate? Please, your hypocrisy is making me ill.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
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Oh, since when do you have a warrant to let you search any part of my country at your will, to prove at your satisfaction the innocence of any person in my country?

On whose authority has been issued such a warrant?

And, besides that, the elven population of DarkSith, composed entirely of Dark Elves asked, and was granted, the assurance that none of your ilk would get in here. They may be Nulls, but they are still sentient and they are part of this country, so the rest of the population saw no harm in allowing that. The people of Tor Yvresse are an exception to this, but they seem to have no interest in coming here.

Oh, since when do you have a warrant to let you search any part of my country at your will, to prove at your satisfaction the innocence of any person in my country?
Nay, to prove their guilt. You tell me to prove it... then you take steps to prevent me from doing so. Very suspicious indeed.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
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Even IF we would let your pesky inspectors around, you couldn't be sure we are not hiding something, say, in another planet. Mars, for instance, or any of the former DarkSith colonies. Information travels around the Universe, you know.

And in the hypotetical case that there was a third coutry testing the devices, we wouldn't disclose that information. And we wouldn't get your inspectors close to that piece of fact. We protect our friends, without judging their actions, or even if we disagree with them.

Shop open for the day.

*encryption activated*
*highest level of security*
*private line open*
We are interested in purchasing your products, and require two Ysalarimi, five of your sensory depravation chambers and five hundred of your blankets. We will pick them up ourselves, and order confirmation is to go to this line, not the Prince's private line. The battleship Artemis will arrive as soon as comfirmation is sent to this private line. Funds will be provided out of pocket, and delivered in Platiunum Ingots carried aboard the Artemis. $2,005,500,000 worth of Platiunum, 201,517 one lb bars, will be delivered provided this is acceptable.

Adam

*closeing private line*
*closing security protocal*
*deactivating encryption*

We would like to order a single neutered Ysalarimi (for a pet).

OOC: I t-gramed you about the composition of a Davion RCT, did you get it?

Greetings,

I need to know How long a Neural Stimulator lasts, and do they have a Warranty or a Guarantee on them? If so how long, and does it cost Extra?

Regards,

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(Encoded 1)

Taka, Order confirmed. Pick up is ready.

(End Encoded 1)

(Encoded 2)

Scandinavian, one Ysalarimi, one billion, order confirmed.

(End Encoded 2)

(OOC: I am still trying to find the exact information. From memory I can tell you a RCT is three regiments sized, combined-arms (infantry, armor and mechs) and with regimental air support and lift (dropships) for each unit. This provides great flexibility in deployment, from lance size to full regiment. Of course, the exact composition of each regiment gives even greater flexibility, as infantry can be regulars, shock troops, or/and SpecOps; or armor can be composed of tanks, self propelled artillery or any other kind of hover, wheeled or tracked vehicles. And of course you can have any size mechs having fire support lances, or scout companies, command lances, etc.)

Money wired.

OOC: That'll do, I just needed to know the basics. The RCTs are going to be my SF forces, so I'll just shape them around that mission.

Shuttles from the Artemis lead by Captian Yuugi arrive and quickly bring the equipment aboard, leaving you with your platium ingots. They hastily depart, but not before leaving you with an extra 10 platinum bars to keep this transaction discreet, even if it is Takian government officials asking around.

((OOC:platinum bars are 16 ounces of platinum, and at 622 dollars an ounce, that comes to nearly an extra 100 million.))

hmm, Well, we will take 5 Neural Stimulators.

$5000 dollars wired to your account.

Nice doing business with you,

Regards,

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Great Boogie, I am sorry. The stimulators have no moving parts, so they don't lose performance over time. You can even wash them by machine and they will just come out clean and ready for more years of use.

Order confirmed, 5 stimulators. And the five free gags.

(Encoded)
Taka, thank you for the metal, but when are you going to pay?
(End Encoded)

You see, we do not value ANY metal. We use gold for the wiring (even in walls) as is the most efficient metal to do the job, we use platinum in all its industry-related and medical-related uses, but we do not value the metals by themselves. And, NO, we do not export metals. Nor we import them. We make them, for what we need. Even in jewelery, what we appreciate is the craftmanship, not the metal used. There is one artist that uses only copper, and his works are more valuable and coveted here than any gold bar.

(OOC: So, Would you mind paying through electronic means like the rest? :))

((OOC: should have said something when I made the orriginal comment, were it the prince buying, it would be wired, however, when you deal with a rebelion in the making, you can't affoard to leave a paper trail. Cash delivery, metal exports, technology, ect. are availible for possible trade, however Adam will not risk wiring funds.))

(OOC: Grr. I seem to have overlooked that part. And currency is just paper too...)

Sigh. We will accept your... metal... as payment. But if things get a little better on your country, please, wire us the money. We will be returning twice the amount of metal.

((OOC: True, but wired funds are just electronic 1's and 0's by that logic, if you would like we have ships, fold drivers, weapons, and consumer goods. A few dozen Takian masterworked blades could be procured and sent.))

We thank you for your acceptance of this form of payment, and assure you, as soon as we are finished with our latest project, you will recieve recompensation of a less tangable but more rewarding nature, as will all nations in time. Should you wish to aide us further in this endevor, or wish an aliance with those sympethetic to my plans, we would welcome you with open arms.

Adam

First and Last amoung mortals

The Reborn God

(OOC: I know that, but it is the only universally accepted way of payment in NS. So DarkSithians value it as a means of trading with other countries. Be aware that we have offered to return to you double platinum should you pay in e-cash. But the return payment will not be the ingots you brought. Those will be used somewhere as needed. You will get in return a solid block of platinum of a purity that will make your metalugists cry of envy. When you process it you will be introducing enough impurities to make it more normal. But it is a hint that DarkSithian metalurgic industries are not... standard.)

Thanks, but we believe in "given value for received value". So if you simple wire us the money when you can, we will give you back the platinum and consider THIS transaction finished. We are not interested in seeking allies, though the fact that BEB is circling around this shop as a shark that has scented blood, is a little unsettling.

*In the middle of a torture...*

These neural stimulators are wonderful! They are giving just the desired effect I so hoped for. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to buy more from you soon...

Gen. Michael Grant III
deposed warlord extraordinare...

Another happy customer!

We were thinking of launching two new versions of the stimulator:

Briefs made with the fabric of the stimulator. You make the subject wear them, and should he misbehave, apply a sensorial stimulus in a part of their anatomy that is specially sensitive.

Also, it has been brought to our attention that the blanket form is psychologically neutral. So we have thought of creating a mean-looking baton/stick/staff with the tips made of the fabric. This also has the advantage of inflicting the sensorial stimulus in a very concentrated point. The more concentrated the stimulus is, the more effective becomes.

This second version also can be used as a very effective riot control device.

BUMP?

*begin encryption*

Adam reports great success with the blankets, and several cells have been carpeted with the material. Prisoners are kept in them with neither clothing nor rest place, only an iron peg they may cling to. Sleep depravation, and psychological torment all in one, plus the joy of watching them despratly hang above the floor, a wonderful invention indeed. The best part is, the Prisoners can't reach the food and water they so despratly want!

We commend you for such a device, and hope to make purchases in the near future. As our monitary situation grows better everyday, we have managed to begin the trade of credits to your account, consider the platinum as collateral untill we are able to fully repay you.

*end encryption*