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Belem in its ongoing quest to develop bio weapons capable of taking out any creature in under 36 hours is offering 50 thousand dollars to any black market supplier for the corpse of any non human species and 300 thousand dollars per live specimen. We will purchase any non human until we have enough of that species for significant testing.

Sends one hundred thousand live cows**


That'll be.........300m x 100t = 30 trillion dollars. Make it in cold cash, please...no checks.

we dont need any cows sorry.

Well, I have a few xenomorphs and a coupla Yautjans back when I RPed that stuff. If you want it, you can buy it. However, I think we'd need to negotiate prices, as the specimens (living) are a bit...rare.

What about hell-cows from Diablo 2?

how much do you want for them? We will need about 100.

What about hell-cows from Diablo 2?

no.

A Slagkattunger Operative working in the steamy underworld of NS world Blackmarket reports this announcement back to Slagkattunger via a dead letter drop.

As a result officials have been told to refuse entry into Slagkattunger the citizens of Belem and operatives told to watch for takers of Belem offer. Nations that are caught taking up the nation of Belem offer will have their citizens ejected from/ refused entry to Slagkattunger.

Very well, I will authorize the transfer of specimens from Mars if you wish. They are about yea tall *motions to about 4 feet*, big almond eyes, grey body, and skin. That is, if your interested.

Aelosia is cutting now all ties with the Belem goverment. "This is disgusting. First the Cyberutopia's affair and now this. You're lucky that the ShadowPrince is not in charge of the nation right now and that I'm one very diplomatic person" declared Haralis Lorindel, chief of the goverment of Aelosia.

As of now, Belem is placed under Interdiction and blockade by the Eternal Noldorin Empire Menelmacar. All vessels entering or leaving Belem will be stopped, scanned, and if necessary, searched for Elven prisoners by the Nineteenth and Twentieth Menelmacari Imperial Gravitic Battle Fleets. Any attacks upon the fleets will be met likewise, three-fold. Any vessels attempting to run the Interdiction will be disabled and seized. Whether their crews get repatriated depends on our mood and what we find aboard their ships.

The enslavement and oppression of our people will not be tolerated.

~Lady Serendis nos Fithurin
Prefect of Imperial Defense and Homeland Security
Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar

Very well, I will authorize the transfer of specimens from Mars if you wish. They are about yea tall *motions to about 4 feet*, big almond eyes, grey body, and skin. That is, if your interested.

We are not buying cows.

*Crownguardian Internal Security (CIS) executes the the ambassador who offered the cows and martians* We fully concur witht he elven representative. THe use of biological weapons is deplorable in itself, as there are many more intriguing ways to die. In addition, the sale of intelligent non-humans is still slavery, as is the sale of any intelligent being.

ooc:-Am I the only who RP the interception of a blackmarket requests? Come on ppl (those who are not taking the offer up) alter your posts to show how your nation knows about it. Belem didn't broadcast it in the open you know! Hence the Blackmarket bit in the title.

The Skeen Counter-Agents of the Empire of Sakkra give wind of this news to the Emperor. Aghast at the news, he makes a formal announcement.

"We of the Empire of Sakkra, hereby cease all trade activities with the nation of Belem. We also are in the process of ejecting all citizens of Belem, and their allies. They may be trying to snatch our children for this .... heinous offense against life. Trade sanctions are now in effect as well. I have authorized my military commanders to keep a close eye on them."

My nation is a monarchy/dictatorship. Eyes are everywhere, watching for treason...and blackmarket trading is punishable by death. We wont trade certain secrets, such as hell-cows.

(ooc)*ponders the outcry against slavery*
question, what do you determine as intelligent non-humans. because intelligent is a vary relative term. technicly, a cockatiel is intelligent, technicly your dog is intelligent. it would be nice to have a relative limit as to how (un)intelligent you are stopping at.

ooc:-Am I the only who RP the interception of a blackmarket requests? Come on ppl (those who are not taking the offer up) alter your posts to show how your nation knows about it. Belem didn't broadcast it in the open you know! Hence the Blackmarket bit in the title.
OOC: Three words:

Satellite comm intercept.

They might not be broadcasting openly, but they'd still have to send out a lot of transmissions to likely suppliers. At least one of those is bound to get noticed by a Menelmacari "Elenpalantír" reconsat. Even if no transmissions are caught, there would likely be some 'chatter' about it after the fact. Since MISSION, the Menelmacari intelligence agency, keeps close watch on the various assholes of the world, some of that chatter will reach our pointy ears.

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Anything that can basically hold a weapon and has free will.

sorry to hijack the thread by that link rules, hands down. I also highly recommend:


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Oh, the Borgirians, a nation allied with Aelosia, is deep involved with any kind of illegal trade (As a matter of fact all noble houses of Aelosia leave their dirty business in the hands of the borgirians). A borgirian heard about the offer and tried to send 10 drow prisoners of one of our jails to Belem. A custom officer discovered him and he confessed all of it. Anyway we are watching Belem very closely after their agents blew out an entire Aelosian armored division with a nuke in Cyberutopia's soil.

The only thing that is stopping us for declaring war on Belem is the absence of the ShadowPrince.

There is no proof a Belem operative detonated that nuke in Cyberutopia.

how much do you want for them? We will need about 100.

7 Xenos, 10 Yautjans.

(ooc)*ponders the outcry against slavery*
question, what do you determine as intelligent non-humans. because intelligent is a vary relative term. technicly, a cockatiel is intelligent, technicly your dog is intelligent. it would be nice to have a relative limit as to how (un)intelligent you are stopping at.

"According to humans, my people are non-humans.....are you questioning how intelligent we are? The Sakkra nation is also non-human are you questioning whether they are intelligent too? I think you fail to understand what was ment by intelligent non-humans..we are not smart (said with distaste) dogs.

(ooc) I take it you mean hold a weapon in a threatening posture that shows a knowledge of the use of the weapon in the role it was designed for, a monkey can hold a gun, it probably isnt smart enough to use it though, and define free will. because technicly anything that deteremines its own movements has this so called "free will".

how much do you want for them? We will need about 100.

7 Xenos, 10 Yautjans.

Ill buy them all. since they are so rare. I can offer 500 apiece.

Anyone who tries selling Zoir,(If they could even get their hands on some)Will face orbital bombardment, invasion and having their people scattered to the Four winds.(Unless their bigger than I am)

(ooc) I take it you mean hold a weapon in a threatening posture that shows a knowledge of the use of the weapon in the role it was designed for, a monkey can hold a gun, it probably isnt smart enough to use it though, and define free will. because technicly anything that deteremines its own movements has this so called "free will".

Basically anything that can create a weapon know how a weapon is used. Free will is a creature not driven by instinct

Oh, intelligence forces of the former goverment of Cyberutopia told us about your involvement. Anyway. You were theonly nation involved that was supporting the rebels. Is a very known fact that they haven't any nuclear capabilities. You gave them the nukes, maybe you activate them yourself. Are you going to avoid the responsability?

how much do you want for them? We will need about 100.

7 Xenos, 10 Yautjans.

Ill buy them all. since they are so rare. I can offer 500 apiece.

500k a piece? Deal.

Seven hours later...
The 19th and 20th Fleets of Menelmacar approached Belem... taking up positions in the sky off the Belemite coast, scattered along the outside edge of Belem's airspace, the sixty warships formed a wall that no vessel could bypass without being detected.

OOC: Imitora, let me know when your ship is getting near. Provided they cooperate, they'll probably be let through - Menelmacar doesn't care much about xenomorphs and would probably like to see them destroyed anyway.

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(ooc) if it wasnt for my moral standing I'd sell you some of my arch-angels. since they fit the bill perfetly. however I think I will haul in a completely different nation and actualy sell you stuff from that, that is, if you are willing to accept xen aliens :D

Oh, intelligence forces of the former goverment of Cyberutopia told us about your involvement. Anyway. You were theonly nation involved that was supporting the rebels. Is a very known fact that they haven't any nuclear capabilities. You gave them the nukes, maybe you activate them yourself. Are you going to avoid the responsability?

We are not responsible. Belem operatives were never in the country other then in a advisory role.

The terrorists could of recieved the nukes from numerous black market sources. The nukes may or may not of been Belem in origin.

If they were of Belem origin once they leave Belem hands they are no longer our responsibility and they can be traded and sold on the open market. We do track the nukes to make sure they are not brought back into Belem but otherwise we could care less where they wound up.

I still believe your sources of information are wrong.

(ooc) if it wasnt for my moral standing I'd sell you some of my arch-angels. since they fit the bill perfetly. however I think I will haul in a completely different nation and actualy sell you stuff from that, that is, if you are willing to accept xen aliens :D

Ill take them i have a massive surplus military budget. never know when developing a weapon might come in handy a few weeks or months down the line in a war.

Yes, you were their advisor. As a matter of fact, you "advised" them to buy nukes and throws them in a civilian area. you were involve. We're sure about it

Seven hours later...
The 19th and 20th Fleets of Menelmacar approached Belem... taking up positions in the sky off the Belemite coast, scattered along the outside edge of Belem's airspace, the sixty warships formed a wall that no vessel could bypass without being detected.

OOC: Imitora, let me know when your ship is getting near. Provided they cooperate, they'll probably be let through - Menelmacar doesn't care much about xenomorphs and would probably like to see them destroyed anyway.

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Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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All incoming and outgoing ships will be escorted by the 9th fleet and/or P.T. boats. Considering our coastline is over 2000 miles long you would not be able to police the coast effectively at all except at extreme close range which will be an infringement of Belem airspace.

Yes, you were their advisor. As a matter of fact, you "advised" them to buy nukes and throws them in a civilian area. you were involve. We're sure about it

They were advised not forced. A nuclear strike would bring the quick and dramatic end to the war they needed.

Having received the news from underground contacts controlled by Xen "Reaper" Masters, New Xen jumps at this chance.
a reply sent back down the chain to any possible contacts in belem requests the choice of the following "Intelligent Non-humans" and in what numbers:
Vortigaunt(green, 7 eyes, 3 arms, and a wicked static electric discharge ability)
Grunts(next step up from vortigaunts, bigger and growing natural armour plates out of their skin)
Gargantuas(bigger than grunts, they border on the intelligence levels but hey, they are like a walking tank and are completely sheithed in armour)
that is all we can think of to sell you. take your pick.
(side note, you must supply the grunts with guns, they dont have a static discharge ability... and the gargs... well they are just big and can carry big things...)

Seven hours later...
The 19th and 20th Fleets of Menelmacar approached Belem... taking up positions in the sky off the Belemite coast, scattered along the outside edge of Belem's airspace, the sixty warships formed a wall that no vessel could bypass without being detected.

OOC: Imitora, let me know when your ship is getting near. Provided they cooperate, they'll probably be let through - Menelmacar doesn't care much about xenomorphs and would probably like to see them destroyed anyway.

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Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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All incoming and outgoing ships will be escorted by the 9th fleet and/or P.T. boats. Considering our coastline is over 2000 miles long you would not be able to police the coast effectively at all except at extreme close range which will be an infringement of Belem airspace.
OOC: The ships' standard cruising altitude is approximately ten miles, and their sensor radius is extensive, even in atmosphere, as necessitated by the ability to engage surface targets from orbit.

Assuming the sixty ships are scattered evenly along the coastline that means each needs to watch a circle with a diameter of 33-1/3 miles. If moved out beyond the 12 km area of ocean off your coast that is considered part of your airspace, that grows to ~35 miles. Considering that their medium cannons can acquire and destroy a target at 20 miles' distance in atmosphere, they can each effectively cover a circle with that radius, or a diameter of 40 miles - and the larger weapons have even longer ranges. So the coast is covered with room to spare.

And if you want to keep your ships, you'll stand well back and stay nice and quiet during the inspections - PT boats vs. plasma cannons equals just a little bit of floating, charred wreckage.

I love math. ^_^

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Belem airspace extends 150 miles for all military craft. Move your ships back.

No. \^_^/

No nation in the world would recognize that airspace. Least of all Menelmacar.

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A nation is allowed to extend its airspace if it feels threatened(note: 9/11 national airspace was made like 100 miles). Ships are being instructed to run the blockade by the time your fleet will even get a lock they will have entered territorial waters.

I am so glad my nation doesnt use boats. actualy Im so glad my nation isnt sharing a terrestrial border with either of you at this time :D

Yeah, after all that, I think'Ill be keeping my aliens, thanks much.

Due to our close economic and political ties with many nations with significant non-human populations, including the Empire of Sakkra, the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar, and the Federated Segments of Scolopendra, and having learned of the actions that other nations are taking in regards to Belem, The Empire of Khenala is taking the following actions:

1) All persons with Belemi Citizenship or Belemi Passports are hereby expelled from the Empire of Khenala, and prior to expulsion will be thuroughly investigated by Khenalian Intelligence prior to deportation.

2) All Khenalian government-owned and private-owned private passenger ships are hereby banned from the transport of Belemi citizens under penalty of law.

3) Any and all trade with the Holy Empire of Belem has ceased, any Belemi owned assets in the Empire of Khenala are frozen until we are certain that this action condoned by the Belemi government has ceased.

Furthermore, we condemn the Holy Empire of Belem for its attempts to secure and develop bio and/or chemical weapons with the explicit purpose of what can only be offensive action against other nations bearing non-human citizens. Let it be known that the Empire of Khenala will be keeping a close watch on this situation as it develops, and will coordinate with MISSION and Skreen Intelligence Agents in determining appropriate responses.

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A nation is allowed to extend its airspace if it feels threatened(note: 9/11 national airspace was made like 100 miles). Ships are being instructed to run the blockade by the time your fleet will even get a lock they will have entered territorial waters.
OOC: The fleet is about 20 km out, that's 8 km off your airspace. The average surface-going warship travels 30-40 knots, and the average civilian vessel is far slower. That means that from the outer edge of acquisition range for medium weapons they would have to travel twenty-five miles, which could take anywhere from 40 minutes to over an hour, depending on the ship. Plenty of time to get a lock, yes?

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they dont have to make a direct course for Belem though. They could come in at an angle that lets them slip into Belem waters or they could head north or south first enter Acrena or Dark Terror waters and then just enter my waters at the coast.

They could, yes. But the ships at each end of the blockade would be able to detect any ship attempting such a maneuver.

Further, Dark Terror hates you. He's unlikely to help you out on this.

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Well I control the only river entering Dark Terrors country so hes technically not playing with a full deck.

The entire objective of the manuerv is just to get them into territorial waters where they cant be touched.

The Confederacy of Ravenspire does not look lightly upon those who traffic in sentient beings. We advise you to reconsider.

Alaric Morgannan
Chief Diplomat

OOC:
I'd probably help Menel at the moment, but as it is I blanket-ignore future tech.
IC:
Hmm... do half-elf half-human criminals count as non human? $100 each

OOC:
I'd probably help Menel at the moment, but as it is I blanket-ignore future tech.
IC:
Hmm... do half-elf half-human criminals count as non human? $100 each

yes they do. how many do you have?

We will find the proofs of your involvement in Cyberutopia's affairs. You sold illegal weapons to a terrorist faction, and helped them to depose the goverment. Also we are in the process of finding out what is happening with the trade of sentient beings around your country. Soon we willl find the proofs.

Belem in its ongoing quest to develop bio weapons capable of taking out any creature in under 36 hours is offering 50 thousand dollars to any black market supplier for the corpse of any non human species and 300 thousand dollars per live specimen. We will purchase any non human until we have enough of that species for significant testing.

The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines is really angry and astounded by this imperialistic behaviour. Non-human creatures have rights too and your nation is not respecting them. We warn you to stop this actions now and release the non-humans now or we fear that The Non-Human Union may feel obliged to intervene in this.
We also announce that due to this imperialist behaviour, all Belem's citizens in our territory are expulsed and that all economic, cultural and political exchanges between you nation and Hell Bovines are cut.
We hope you reconsider your actions if you really want the friendship between our lands to continue.
Yours,

Whitey Bighorns, Vice-Duque of The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines
-Signatory of the Freedom Five Treaty
-Signatory of The Golden Agate Defense Pact
-Interior Minister of The Non-Human Union

Hell Bovines: Feel free to join the blockadetastic fun.

~Siri

Hell Bovines: Feel free to join the blockadetastic fun.

~Siri

Great! Misa like blockades! :D

****The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines announces its intention to join the blockade on the nation of Belem for its imperialistic and barbaric stance towards Non-Humans.
We, again, beg Belem to back down, so that we can solve this in a peaceful way.****

From the coastal city of Hayvalley, a hell bovinian fleet starts sailing torwards Belem. The fleet consisted of:
-1 'destructor-class ship' ''Crucero Vaca Narvaja"
-2 Submarines "USS Cowsailor" and "USS Spottedship"
-5 medium Frigates

We have a few hundred, our pure elves were deported to Ardor. Although we rather dislike Belem, KEEP YOUR DAMN NOSES OUT OF OTHERS BUSINESS! All blockaders will be sunk on sight (except future tech which I ignore as always).

We have a few hundred, our pure elves were deported to Ardor. Although we rather dislike Belem, KEEP YOUR DAMN NOSES OUT OF OTHERS BUSINESS! All blockaders will be sunk on sight (except future tech which I ignore as always).

Launching an attack on vessels in international waters or international airspace would be an act of war. And probably rather foolish, to boot.

Sakura Kitsuki

OOC: Very well then Dork Terror. But as you blanket ignore future tech, we will ignore your selling whatever you sell, and you as well. Looks like there is nothing bordering Belem's boundaries.

IC: It appears that Belem's waters have no neighboring area to lay claim to it. Therefore, we advise posts be set there to maintain the blockade.

OOC: if you ignore DT then my southern border is impassable mountain ranges and ill accept no attacks from the souther border unless you first unignore DT and get permission to go through his land.

Belem in its ongoing quest to develop bio weapons capable of taking out any creature in under 36 hours is offering 50 thousand dollars to any black market supplier for the corpse of any non human species and 300 thousand dollars per live specimen. We will purchase any non human until we have enough of that species for significant testing. Well, this could raise 10 kinds of Hell.

OOC: I don't believe that will happen, as he blanket-ignores future nations. Whether I unignore him or not, the result would be the same.

And no mountain range is impassable. Not from the air, anyway.

wow belem you have sunk to a new low.

to put it simply I wont accept attacks from the south. unless u arrange some type of agreement with him.

Syskeyiapolis Herald-Tribune

War with Belem? A Nation Stirs

SYSKEYIAPOLIS(AP)- Anti-Belem fever hit a new high today when Assemblyman Paul Nhukang (CR-Kashefipour) introduced a bill which would declare that a state of war exists between the Republic of Syskeyia and the Holy Empire of Belem.

The bill's introduction was not an anomaly, however, but is the culmination of anti-Belem sentiment that has been rising in Syskeyia for a while.

The first major outcry against Belem occurred when Belem Inquisitors, flying from helicopters, slaughtered Greenpeace members who had taken to the rooftops to protest cloning.

Cardinal Theophilius, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Syskeyiapolis and Primate of Syskeyia, declared that the action was evidence of the "idolatrous" loyalty that the government demands of its citizens.

"What were the Greenpeace people protesting? Cloning - something the Catholic Church is clearly against. Therefore such an allegedly pious nation such as Belem should have no problem with what they were protesting? So what did Belem have a problem with? The protesting itself. That the people stood up- for anything. This atrocity clearly shows that the Belem government does not want its people to be independant thinkers- even orthodox, loyalist thinkers- but drooling, servile dogs."

"No offense to any sentient, rational dogs meant, thank you."

Another sour point in Syskeyian-Belem relations came when Belem announced that it was legalizing slavery. When the Republic noted that enslavement was against the teachings of the Catholic faith, the Belem government replied that once a person was stripped of Belem citizenship, he was no longer considered to be human.

"So let me get this straight; just because Belem takes away someone's citizenship, that person loses their humanity? That's a metaphysical absurdity!" remarked Teresa Yang, a math teacher at St. Padre Pio High School.

Now the sentiment against Belem has reached a high point with Belem's inauguration of the "Knights Templar," a suspected secret society and terrorist organization, and requesting nonhumans for experimentation purposes.

"I mean, Belem has a culture?*" inquired Maria Teresa Xinjang, a sophomore at Alphonsus Ligori High School in Syskeyiapolis. "Something's gotta be up with these Templar guys."

In response to Belem's reuqest for nonhumans, President and First Consul Sukothai has sent five carrier battlegroups to join in the blockade of Belem.

The resolution of war is controversial, and whether it may pass or not is still up in the air; in the meantime, however, all Syskeyian naval vessels have been painted with the "Dazzle" camouflage seen below:
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*Views of high school girls do not necessarily represent the views of the Syskeyian government.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

OOC:
*waits for ignorefest to start*
He wont accept anything from the south unless you unignore me. I wont accept any wormhole or particle beam bullshit. So hes indirectly ignoring future tech as well, basically.

*Bump*

Hope Belem reads this.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Let it be known to Syskeyia for all there grievances there are reasonable answers to each.

First point: Any disruptive action taken by any party that causes a public nuisance or disruption and does not have proper licensing to hold a demonstration can be subject to Police and/or Inquisition intervention. Depending on the circumstances the means to ending the demonstration will be decided.

Second Point: Enslavement was done as a punishment to criminals that could be requested by the prosecutor and the victim. The request is ussually denied because circumstances dont allow that as a reasonable punishment. Consider the fact that there are only about 500-1000 slaves in Belem since the passing of that law.

Third Point: The Knights Templars is purely a gentlemans club, where citizens of Belem can meet, relax and have a good time. This is no different from a regular country club other then the fact that is extends across the entire nation in different chapters.

Fourth point: Belem has no knowledge of this so called "species trading"

hey belam, if you want a few houndred horeses and other farm animals drop me a line. i don't know about this blockade, but if you knew a way around it and wanted the animals, they are yours.

hey belam, if you want a few houndred horeses and other farm animals drop me a line. i don't know about this blockade, but if you knew a way around it and wanted the animals, they are yours.

I have no need for farm animals.

Encrypted Communication to Syskeyia

If you choose to go to war against the evil and unholy nation of Belem, Istar will join you in this righteous crusade against all threats to the Gods... and Istar.


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The Holy Empire of Istar

Near the edge of the system a small flash of light appears and quickly dissipates.

A massive 4.5 megaton freighter, VMS Astaria, sets course for low orbit over Belem, it's impeller drive slowly accelerating it and its cargo of humanitarian supplies and industrial machinery to a speed of 203.5 Gs.

Its crew of 450 manned their stations tensely, on the bridge, the nav officer watched as the they slowly approached the planet.

OOC: Does the blockade extend into space?

OOC: dont think so.

Near the edge of the system a small flash of light appears and quickly dissipates.

A massive 4.5 megaton freighter, VMS Astaria, sets course for low orbit over Belem, it's impeller drive slowly accelerating it and its cargo of humanitarian supplies and industrial machinery to a speed of 203.5 Gs.

Its crew of 450 manned their stations tensely, on the bridge, the nav officer watched as the they slowly approached the planet.

OOC: Does the blockade extend into space?

It does as soon as Thelas sees this :twisted:

IC:


As soon as Thelas Space Command saw these transports, the final piece of the blockade fell into place. The Second fleet was dispatched. As the massive capitol ships could not make it in time, a squadron of 3 Destroyers was sent out, as soon as they reached weapons range, they sent a very clear warning, “VMS Astaria, this is the Thelas blockade fleet. You are ordered to stand down for inspection, or we will open fire.” Their meaning was clear when they raised shields, loaded missile tubes, and readied Charged Particle Cannons.

Belem in its ongoing quest to develop bio weapons capable of taking out any creature in under 36 hours is offering 50 thousand dollars to any black market supplier for the corpse of any non human species and 300 thousand dollars per live specimen. We will purchase any non human until we have enough of that species for significant testing.

along with that the nation of the soviets is annoucing there new fusion bombs and they kill anything instantly
fare warning if anyone steels or takes my bombs i will make sure the un heres about it and u can expect a ban from the website...
j/k but please dont copy
Soviets

The Captain of VMS Astaria spoke into his com set. "We are under orders to deliver a supply of humanitarian items and industrial parts to Belem, to help alleviate the suffering of the populace and rebuild the damage to their economy. Do not interfere with our peace mission" Shields were raised, point defence laser clusters brought online, and damage control teams were readied. The ship would not stop unless it had absolutely no other choice.

OOC: The stats for this vessel can be found here:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/misc/harrington/nefarious-list/1C2M001.HTM The freighter could best be described as a vaguely cigar shape, its dimensions are 2,500 meters long x 300 meters at highest point x 325 meters at widest point. Most of it's interior volume is zero gravity and vacuum cargo space.

The Captain of VMS Astaria spoke into his com set. "We are under orders to deliver a supply of humanitarian items and industrial parts to Belem, to help alleviate the suffering of the populace and rebuild the damage to their economy. Do not interfere with our peace mission" Shields were raised, point defence laser clusters brought online, and damage control teams were readied. The ship would not stop unless it had absolutely no other choice.

*snip*

The Thelasian ships locked weapons on the merchant’s engines, a final message was sent, “You will stand down, we have the fire power to incinerate your ship. If the supplies are indeed humanitarian then we will let you pass, if they are not, we will confiscate what you are carrying, and send you home. Other wise, you are about to have your engines disabled. This is your final warning.”

OOC: EDIT: Put in the quote, but not the message

Belem, we are concerned some of the IEA has taken refuge in your nation. We are currently at war with them, along with The Gulf States, Pablicosta, and others.

We don't know what you might be doing with these elves, but we wish for them to be turned over to our authority before they take hold in your soceity - planning attacks against myself and Gulf, or Menelmacar.

There are no elves in Belem nor have there been or ever will be Elves in the Imperial Empire you must be mistaken.

Well, it was just a rumor.

One of the elven ships was sailing in Belem's general direction. We're not sure if they were heading to your nation - or trying to do something with Menel's blockade.

It was most likely nothing.

Belem? just so you know that if your invaded we support you.


right behind Trasa's leader the Crowd of 40,000,000 Cheer

Belem? just so you know that if your invaded we support you.


right behind Trasa's leader the Crowd of 40,000,000 Cheer

Belem thanks Trasa for its support.

Hmm... Esamopia has a brilliant method of getting around Melenmacar's blockade (I hope I spelled it right, if not sorry!) Although we do hate Belem's tactics, for example, his famous quote: "I don't RP, I annex."

So we're not sure what to do here, we fully support the idea of the Interdiction, but we are also itching to test out our method of getting around it...

Suggestions on what Esamopia should do?

I never said that. that was bison.


I RP, I just dont type page long posts to launch 1 missile.

I never said that. that was bison.


I RP, I just dont type page long posts to launch 1 missile.

Hmm... my apologies... I recall that the nation started with a "B" and since I am not sure I will apologize and withdraw my slanderous statement.

Still, your evil scheme is... evil... though I want to destroy Melenmacar's Interdiction nonsense so much... what to do?!

well someone has to play the bad guy. :wink:

well someone has to play the bad guy. :wink:

Brilliant! Well that tipped the balance, I support you.

Now, I have several elves that can be transported to you... I would request 250,000 a head, and I will be transporting 20 of them. (Any larger and this would be public knowledge in my country, furthermore, I am trying to keep a pro-elf or neutral stance, so no matter what this cannot be revealed within my nation... though Melenmacar may be able to intercept this message.)

Please tell me if you agree, I will have them sent then.

We'll purchase 300 if that can be arranged.

We'll purchase 300 if that can be arranged.

Secret Encrypted Message, Passed by Unidentified "Shadowy" Figure:

My entire elf population is only in the thousands... I am afraid that the loss of twenty may create a disaster if information is leaked... so I think I will hold off and stay with 20, if that's alright. I'm sure that you'll be able to get more elsewhere if your experiments require so many...

That would be 5 Million Esamopians (1 USD = 1 Esamopian, so no tough math there.)

<<<Encrypted line>>>

That is fine. money is wired.

Most excellent, with the money wired we will be able to send your "cargo."

*One heavily armed cruiser, escorted by three destroyers, head towards Belem's waters.*

ON DECK, FLAGSHIP CRUISER 100010101:

"Commodore, the crew has been wondering?"
"What about Captain?"
"They are frightened the fact that we are entering an Interdicted zone... and curious about what is being held in Cargo Room 7... could you shed some light on the subject, Commodore?"
The Commodore stopped sipping his coffee, as this annoyed him greatly, and responded in a harsh tone: "You have your orders, and I expect them to be carried out without any doubts! To ease your mind, however, I will tell you that we are on orders to transport the cargo, which is simply an assortment of manufactured goods, to Belem, since our leaders wish to demand that such silly things as "Interdictions" come to an end. There is a strict prohibition on this sort of thing... something called "Freedom of the Seas!" Basically our leaders wish to teach this fool a lesson... and don't worry, we have one of the most powerful weapons ever imagined for use in this matter."
"Wow... what could this weapon possibly be?"
"Well, lets just say no one will be trying to create an effective "Interdiction" or something equally silly anytime soon."

OOC: While waiting for the Verenii to respond to the pact that I am abou to vaporize their ship I am going to help Menel in her blokade :twisted: I do love being a meddeler

IC:

Far away from the situation unfolding in Belem, a Thelasian fleet was under going training maneuvers, testing out their new Cavitation Sea/Air Fighters. Then a new order came, they were to redirect to Belem waters and assist Menelmacari Units already on site. Their orders were to stop any and all traffic going in or out of Belem. The only thing that would be let through the blockade would be food going into Belem, but the cargo ships would not be allowed back out until the blockade was lifted. Those same orders were sent to the fleet in orbit. The Verenii ship would be allowed to pass after inspection, but only with their food. The other supplies would be held by the Thelasian fleet until a freighter could be requisitioned to take the materials back to Verenii space.

OOC: While waiting for the Verenii to respond to the pact that I am abou to vaporize their ship I am going to help Menel in her blokade :twisted: I do love being a meddeler

IC:

Far away from the situation unfolding in Belem, a Thelasian fleet was under going training maneuvers, testing out their new Cavitation Sea/Air Fighters. Then a new order came, they were to redirect to Belem waters and assist Menelmacari Units already on site. Their orders were to stop any and all traffic going in or out of Belem. The only thing that would be let through the blockade would be food going into Belem, but the cargo ships would not be allowed back out until the blockade was lifted. Those same orders were sent to the fleet in orbit. The Verenii ship would be allowed to pass after inspection, but only with their food. The other supplies would be held by the Thelasian fleet until a freighter could be requisitioned to take the materials back to Verenii space.

OOC: When will Siri respond...

IC: Commodore's orders:

"Full speed ahead, men! We are 250 miles away!! I want us travelling at 20 knots... immediately!"
"Aye, sir."
"Excellent... soon my plan will come into play... soon I will be known throughout the world, mwhahahah."
"Sir, anything else??"
Surprised that the foolish Ensign was still there to hear the maniacal rant, the Commodore grew annoyed. "Get back to work fool!"

The Astarias impeller drives power down, and braking thrusters are gradually applied until the ship has zero velocity.

OOC: How good are your scanners? And the cargo hold is going to take a while to search, with it being pitch black, vacuum, and zero gravity.

OOC:
Ill engage modern tech blockaders, I guess..
IC:
Trade with belem continues as usual, even if Pantsir-S1 SAM systems now escort trade convoys.

The Astarias impeller drives power down, and braking thrusters are gradually applied until the ship has zero velocity.

OOC: How good are your scanners? And the cargo hold is going to take a while to search, with it being pitch black, vacuum, and zero gravity.


Good, Really good, also, the Thelas ships are going to do a "Personal Inspection". In other words, prepare to be boarded.

IC: as the Verenii ship slows to a stop, several Magnetic grappeling hocks latch on to its' out skin and the ship is reiled next to one of the destroyers. "Verenii ship, prepare to be boarded.

OOC: If the troops are allowed onboard tell me what they find

OOC:

Belem: Unlikely... anyone trying to pass below the gravships would be ordered to turn back. If not, their vessels would either be seized or sunk.

Oh, and you'll ignore future tech on the part of someone blockading you, but not on the part of a nation trying to run that blockade (specifically, Vernii)? There's a word for that, it's called 'hypocrisy'.

Esamopia: You do realize that if this method of yours results in the destruction of a gravship, you'll be at war with Menelmacar before lunchtime, right?

IC:

Aboard one of the Menelamcari cruisers...

"Esamopian vessels approaching the coastline," the sensor officer reported.

"Move to stop them," the ship's commander ordered. "Open a channel."

"This is the Menelmacari Imperial cruiser Burning Wind to approaching vessels. Your destination has been placed under Interdiction by Imperial Order of the Elentári of Menelmacar. You are hereby warned to immediately reverse course, or your ships will be permanently impounded without compensation."

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The Astarias impeller drives power down, and braking thrusters are gradually applied until the ship has zero velocity.

OOC: How good are your scanners? And the cargo hold is going to take a while to search, with it being pitch black, vacuum, and zero gravity.


Good, Really good, also, the Thelas ships are going to do a "Personal Inspection". In other words, prepare to be boarded.

IC: as the Verenii ship slows to a stop, several Magnetic grappeling hocks latch on to its' out skin and the ship is reiled next to one of the destroyers. "Verenii ship, prepare to be boarded.

OOC: If the troops are allowed onboard tell me what they find

Its spelled Vernii :) The ships airlock opens and the boarding party is met by the captain and some security officers. There are 5 security personnel, wearing light body armer and with light pulsers holstered.

OOC:

Belem: Unlikely... anyone trying to pass below the gravships would be ordered to turn back. If not, their vessels would either be seized or sunk.

Oh, and you'll ignore future tech on the part of someone blockading you, but not on the part of a nation trying to run that blockade (specifically, Vernii)? There's a word for that, it's called 'hypocrisy'.

Esamopia: You do realize that if this method of yours results in the destruction of a gravship, you'll be at war with Menelmacar before lunchtime, right?

IC:

Aboard one of the Menelamcari cruisers...

"Esamopian vessels approaching the coastline," the sensor officer reported.

"Move to stop them," the ship's commander ordered. "Open a channel."

"This is the Menelmacari Imperial cruiser Burning Wind to approaching vessels. Your destination has been placed under Interdiction by Imperial Order of the Elentári of Menelmacar. You are hereby warned to immediately reverse course, or your ships will be permanently impounded without compensation."



OOC: Lunch time has actually come and gone... unless it was an expression...

IC:

"Commodore, we have received a message from a Menelmacari Imperial cruiser, it identifies itself as "Burning Wind" and warns us that if we do not turn back our ships will be confiscated!"

"Ha... those fools... Send the following message:
"Imperial Cruiser, I am Commodore Samuel Iganov, and we are on a mission of trade with Belem. Your "interdiction" is in violation of international law and protections on the freedom of the seas... you have absolutely no right or authority to do anything in these international waters. I warn you to stand aside... or you may not live to regret it."

"Message sent sir!"

"Excellent... how far are we away from the coast?"
"100 Miles sir, we are still heading at 20 knots as ordered."
"Most excellent."

OOC: Just an expression. Means, 'real quick'. ;)

IC:

"I have my orders, Iganov. You will reverse course. This is your final warning."

As Burning Wind continued to advance, her weapons charged, her fighters launched.

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OOC: While waiting for the Verenii to respond to the pact that I am abou to vaporize their ship I am going to help Menel in her blokade :twisted: I do love being a meddeler

IC:

Far away from the situation unfolding in Belem, a Thelasian fleet was under going training maneuvers, testing out their new Cavitation Sea/Air Fighters. Then a new order came, they were to redirect to Belem waters and assist Menelmacari Units already on site. Their orders were to stop any and all traffic going in or out of Belem. The only thing that would be let through the blockade would be food going into Belem, but the cargo ships would not be allowed back out until the blockade was lifted. Those same orders were sent to the fleet in orbit. The Verenii ship would be allowed to pass after inspection, but only with their food. The other supplies would be held by the Thelasian fleet until a freighter could be requisitioned to take the materials back to Verenii space.

Thelas your fleet will be fired on if you attempt to stop all trade. The only reason Siris fleet wasn't fired on is because they aren't trying to stop trade just prevent trade of elves(OOC: which wont work since I can bring in elves via land lines.) Attempt to stop all trade and your navy will be sunk.

(OOC: which wont work since I can bring in elves via land lines.)
Yeah, right. Over, in your own words, 'impassable mountains', right?

~Siri

(OOC: which wont work since I can bring in elves via land lines.)
Yeah, right. Over, in your own words, 'impassable mountains', right?

~Siri
OOC:
Tunnels, besides, the impassability only applies to future-tech nations :)

OOC: Tunnels can be collapsed. Bridges can be severed. Roads can be blocked with landslides, or just plain blown off the mountain side. And usually it only takes a single missile. If they're not impassable now, I can make 'em impassable real easily.

~Siri

Maybe we could help with the blockade. If you need any help, just call us.

OOC: Tunnels can be collapsed. Bridges can be severed. Roads can be blocked with landslides, or just plain blown off the mountain side. And usually it only takes a single missile. If they're not impassable now, I can make 'em impassable real easily.

~Siri
OOC:
Slight problem: Bisonic SAM Network.

SLAAM-7 (S-400) can intercept missiles going mach 20 and has a range of 400km (its an RL missile under designations S-400 and SA-20), Igla-S manportable SAMs can engage cruise missiles with some succcess (source: Janes defense), and BUK-M1-3, my equal to Patriot more or less, can intercept targets at 75 meters altitude. Pantsir-S1's and BUK-M1-3's escort the convoys.

(OOC: which wont work since I can bring in elves via land lines.)
Yeah, right. Over, in your own words, 'impassable mountains', right?

~Siri

OOC: no it was impassable mountains if you ignored DT. I have a northern/western border with Acrena and a Southern Border with DT.

OOC: Sorry... no time to participate on this
IC:
The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines announces that it won't take part on the attack to Belem and that the hell bovinian blockade has ended. We are a peace-loving nation and we don't want wars, but we warn the rogue nation of Belem that The Non-Human Alliance will not tolerate the illegal commerce/slavery of sentient creatures. We advice Belem to stop this behaviour at once.
Finally, we announce that all diplomatic,culturaL,economical and political exchanges between Belem and Hell Bovines will still be cut.
Wishing you good luck,

Whitey Bighorns, vice-duque of The Grand Duchy of Hell Bovines

OOC: Are your ships the naval kind (on water,) or space ships, Melenmacar? If they are the latter, this might not make too much sense, but it wont matter much.

IC:

"Commodore, we are know within 50 miles of the coast, the Melenmacar's refuse to back down... they are even launching fighters!"

"Excellent... order all ships in the task force to set ramming courses! Maximum speed gentlemen! I will enforce the will of the world or die trying, we are not cowards!!"

Shaken aback somewhat, the ship's Captain complied and knew that it would be worse to be declared a traitor (with his family's life and possession forfeit,) than die... so he complied hoping his crazy Commodore had something up his sleeve.

"Aye sir, all ships complying."

"Excellent... I can see that we are know 45 miles away... steady as she goes!!"

"Status report, Ensign?"
"Commodore... we are now 30 miles away from the cost, and since the enemy vessels were originally stationed 20 miles away from it, we are under 10 miles away (don't forget they are moving to intercept.)"

"Excellent... Today my name shall be immortalized!!"

The Commodore's plan is unprecedented... and will likely create a pandora's box the likes of which have never been seen before. He may be promoted to the head of the navy because of it... or executed at once... but no matter what, it will be an action to remember.

OOC: We await Meclenamamamamamamr's response.

OOC: They're spacecraft, but they're capable of operating in atmosphere (which they're doing right now). The one coming at you right now is six hundred meters long, has about thirty "Thoron" fighters, and a rather large number of plasma cannons and missile launchers in varying sizes.

Menelmacar hasn't had a wet navy in about a century.

~Siri

"Sir... I think you should know that we can't "ram" them... they are floating above the water and they are SPACECRAFT."
"Who said that? Is this the Captain?"
"Yes... and I cannot take this foolishness any lon-"
The Commodore pulls out a small PP7 pistol and lodges a few bullets in the man's brain... his family will have to foot the bill, of course.
"XO, congratulations on your promotion. Now does anyone else have any objections?" The Commodore waived his pistol meancingly just in case... but no one spoke... they knew that mutiny or treason would end their lives as well as cause enormous trouble for their families back home.
"Excellent... XO... I mean Captain, your first order is to simply head for the most direct path to Belem's coast. What is our status on that?"
"Sir, we are 25 miles away from the Belem coast, 13 miles away from its waters... but only a few miles away from an Imperial vessel that is closing in fast."
"Hmm... broadcast this message on all frequencies:
Attention Melenmacari vessel, this is Commodore Iganov, we are on a mission of peaceful trade and your "Interdiction" has no legitimacy. I urge you to stand down your weapons and withdraw, before [Burning Wind] is set aflame! I repeat, your "Interdiction" is illegal, and we will not be held responsible for the lives of your crew or the survival of your vessel should you choose to oppose us! STAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY."
"Message sent sir, still no response."
"This will be their final warning... we will use our secret weapon if they fail to stand down."

The weapon... of such terrible proportions, is likely to set the entire fleet to dust... a weapon of such great power and unparalleled strength. Still, the Commodore may get a medal for its successful use... or be executed, and he will always be famous (or perhaps infamous) for its use... but he has no choice!

"They continue to advance."

"Are we in range?" asked the Ciryaran.

"Yes, milord. Powering up the tractors now."

"Target the Esamopian ship and hold them in place."

"Yes, milord. Tractor active."

From a small gravitic core in the lower part of MIS Burning Wind, a long, narrow, steep gravity well extended, enveloping the Esamopian warship and preventing her from advancing further. Similar emitters also came active, halting the other ships in the small Esamopian flotilla as well.

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Esamopian Ministry of Defense
URGENT message to Melenmacar:

"I must congratulate you... you performed your part quite admirably. Unfortunately you failed to realize that while all this was going on two Nautilus-class submarines have passed under your so-called Interdiction, and have finished our business with the Belem regime."

"We were quite pleased that you were not suspicious by the Commodore's insane behaviour and the constant references to the inability of the crew to do anything about it. You see, these skeleton crews were gathered from a group of disgraced naval officers and purged personnel... they were conducting their last act of service to Esamopia, their lives were already forfeit, and the only reason they bothered to go on this mission was to save their families from certain death should they defect."

"Furthermore, the contents of the sealed Cargo Room 7 are:
A sophisticated communications jammer that would not enable you from listening in on the sub... that combined with strict orders for radio silence and the mayhem on the surface was apparently sufficient to restrain you from an in-depth analysis of the water."

"As for the crew and the vessels involved... well we could care less what their fate maybe. There is a 1 Megaton warhead on one of the support destroyers (you can easily detect it by any radiation sensors you may have, but we will tell you it is the second vessel, the A11101 .) The vessels are also booby-trapped in certain areas, so becareful of boarding these vessels... however they are all ouddated (the 10001101 or similar designation on the Flagship indicates that it has no actual "name" meaning that it was scheduled for decomission,) but the crew and the vessels have all fulfilled their purposes for Esamopia, you may do what you wish with them at your own risk."

"Oh... and we won!!! :lol: :twisted: :lol: "

First Minister of Defense,
Arail Koutilop.

OOC: I was surprised that my Commodore's constant maniacal rants, the overly submissive attitude of the crews, combined with the subtle hints of the Cruiser's designation and a "sealed" cargo hold did not arouse too great a suspicion by you. Good RP!

OOC: Maybe Melenmacar should stop its Interdiction now...

OOC: Would have been good RP, except that it's not good form to go 'Oh, wait! There were two subs I never mentioned until now, and they slipped past!'

Well, two can play that game.

I failed to mention until now the second fleet that was sitting right behind the first one, which during all this, spotted, tractored, seized, searched, and scuttled your submarines, rescuing the Elven prisoners and permanently interning the crew. And oh yes, we're now declaring war on you for engaging in the trafficking of Elven slaves.

Never mind that the fleet I was RPing all along would have spotted the subs too; a combo of sonar bouys and MAD (magnetic anomaly detection) sensors would have lit 'em up like Christmas trees.

I should hope, of course, that you see how fallacious this sort of RP tactic is now. Whatsay we rewind a bit until prior the foolishness, yes?

~Siri

OOC: Would have been good RP, except that it's not good form to go 'Oh, wait! There were two subs I never mentioned until now, and they slipped past!'

Well, two can play that game.

I failed to mention until now the second fleet that was sitting right behind the first one, which during all this, spotted, tractored, seized, searched, and scuttled your submarines, rescuing the Elven prisoners and permanently interning the crew. And oh yes, we're now declaring war on you for engaging in the trafficking of Elven slaves.

Never mind that the fleet I was RPing all along would have spotted the subs too; a combo of sonar bouys and MAD (magnetic anomaly detection) sensors would have lit 'em up like Christmas trees.

I should hope, of course, that you see how fallacious this sort of RP tactic is now. Whatsay we rewind a bit until prior the foolishness, yes?

~Siri

OOC: I must object... it is true that my submarines were not RP-ed... but that was due to the obvious need to keep them a secret.

I dropped many hints... the Commodore's strange behavior, the fact that the ship did not have a real name, the crew and their submission to whatever the crazy "Commodore" wanted them to do. Your detection devices would not have worked on the subs either... at least without a specific and targetted search on the waters, with my jamming devices in the cargo hold.

FURTHERMORE, my floatilla's maximum speed was reported at only 20 knots, while even your estimate for a warship was 30-40 knots... not to mention that the flotilla only consisted of a cruiser and a few destroyers, obviously some of the fastest ships in any "water" navy.

The fact that nowhere in your posts did you even mention the monitoring of vessels underneath the water would also logically mean that I would try that approach... especially when you did not mention that they were being monitored!

There is also something else that you must understand... the fact that I have never led a mission whose faliure was obvious... something I doubt many people do actually (go on failed missions.) You should have suspected that something fishy was going on!!

Take as an example the actions of Sniper Country a long time ago, (I know that you ignore him but bear with me please.) I was still a "n00b" more or less, and decided to invite his country's leader for some sort of peace banquet. I also left subtle hints, such as extravagent descriptions of the food, and he discovered that his leader was being poisoned before I even mentioned it... I left some subtle hints, obviously necessary for any fairness, but also planted a good trap, which he however discovered.

My point in this extremely long OOC is that you cannot always win everything. The fact that I used a... if I maybe a bit arrogant... good plan that defeated the elf-empress, should not result in childish responses:

"Oh yeah... well I had a shadow navy just for this sort of thing... your submarine was actually captured a long time ago... hahahahah."

Ahem... well its true... besides, how do you expect to ever be defeated?!! You have a gigantic country, endless resources, and go around unilaterally isolating countries through "INTERDICTIONS!"

It is about time that you accepted a small defeat... do what you will, but I believe my submarine action is justified... while your response is not!

OOC: Oh well, very interesting your tactics, RP and stuff BUT, Can we start with the war part?. I'm eager to diaplay my new armoured division, with tanks, warwalkers and stuff. And Esamopia is a well known elven hater, he's passing a bill against the rights of the non-humans (elves included too!).

OOC: Oh well, very interesting your tactics, RP and stuff BUT, Can we start with the war part?. I'm eager to diaplay my new armoured division, with tanks, warwalkers and stuff. And Esamopia is a well known elven hater, he's passing a bill against the rights of the non-humans (elves included too!).

OOC: Excusez-moi!?!! Before we begin slandering me, please get the facts straight.

1. I may have a personal vendetta (ICly) against Melenmacar or Siri in particular, but that is no reason to declare me an "elf hater." In a recent poll, more than half of elf nations said that they did not like her, or were completely ambivalent.

2. Aside from that, I have had very limited contact with elves... some have popped up in my nation, and I almost killed one once, but its now in protective custody (pending my getting around to that RP.) NO elves were ever officially harmed in my care, except for the twenty or so sent to Belem... but that is completely OOC and unconfirmed!

3. I am not passing a bill against non-humans... I have seen one out there by another nation, but I challenge you to find a post where I am even considering an anti-non-human or anti-elf bill!!!

4. You may always declare war... but you don't have a casus belli in this conflict!

OOC: Would have been good RP, except that it's not good form to go 'Oh, wait! There were two subs I never mentioned until now, and they slipped past!'

Well, two can play that game.

I failed to mention until now the second fleet that was sitting right behind the first one, which during all this, spotted, tractored, seized, searched, and scuttled your submarines, rescuing the Elven prisoners and permanently interning the crew. And oh yes, we're now declaring war on you for engaging in the trafficking of Elven slaves.

Never mind that the fleet I was RPing all along would have spotted the subs too; a combo of sonar bouys and MAD (magnetic anomaly detection) sensors would have lit 'em up like Christmas trees.

I should hope, of course, that you see how fallacious this sort of RP tactic is now. Whatsay we rewind a bit until prior the foolishness, yes?

~Siri

OOC: I must object... it is true that my submarines were not RP-ed... but that was due to the obvious need to keep them a secret.

I dropped many hints... the Commodore's strange behavior, the fact that the ship did not have a real name, the crew and their submission to whatever the crazy "Commodore" wanted them to do. Your detection devices would not have worked on the subs either... at least without a specific and targetted search on the waters, with my jamming devices in the cargo hold.

FURTHERMORE, my floatilla's maximum speed was reported at only 20 knots, while even your estimate for a warship was 30-40 knots... not to mention that the flotilla only consisted of a cruiser and a few destroyers, obviously some of the fastest ships in any "water" navy.

The fact that nowhere in your posts did you even mention the monitoring of vessels underneath the water would also logically mean that I would try that approach... especially when you did not mention that they were being monitored!

There is also something else that you must understand... the fact that I have never led a mission whose faliure was obvious... something I doubt many people do actually (go on failed missions.) You should have suspected that something fishy was going on!!

Take as an example the actions of Sniper Country a long time ago, (I know that you ignore him but bear with me please.) I was still a "n00b" more or less, and decided to invite his country's leader for some sort of peace banquet. I also left subtle hints, such as extravagent descriptions of the food, and he discovered that his leader was being poisoned before I even mentioned it... I left some subtle hints, obviously necessary for any fairness, but also planted a good trap, which he however discovered.

My point in this extremely long OOC is that you cannot always win everything. The fact that I used a... if I maybe a bit arrogant... good plan that defeated the elf-empress, should not result in childish responses:

"Oh yeah... well I had a shadow navy just for this sort of thing... your submarine was actually captured a long time ago... hahahahah."

Ahem... well its true... besides, how do you expect to ever be defeated?!! You have a gigantic country, endless resources, and go around unilaterally isolating countries through "INTERDICTIONS!"

It is about time that you accepted a small defeat... do what you will, but I believe my submarine action is justified... while your response is not!

OOC: he's right you know, you can't always win, and he did leave a couple of hints. I suppose you'll just have to admit that you were out-played in this one, lol.

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1. I may have a personal vendetta (ICly) against Melenmacar or Siri in particular, but that is no reason to declare me an "elf hater." In a recent poll, more than half of elf nations said that they did not like her, or were completely ambivalent.

OOC: What poll?, and Which elven nations?, I'm just wondering. You think that your act of selling elves to Belem is going to be secret forever, is just a matter of time until someone discovers the truth. Once we discover that, we will have a casus belli.

Anyway I think that maybe you have a point about that submarines, they could pass through, but maybe not undetected, there's something called satellites, that can detect that kind of things. I said that we will soon in a state of war unless you change your policy regarding elves, but I didn't declared war yet. That's the difference between IC and OOC, if I declare war to you, you will see an IC post declaring that. However I see it as an unavoidable situation.

I dropped many hints... the Commodore's strange behavior, the fact that the ship did not have a real name, the crew and their submission to whatever the crazy "Commodore" wanted them to do. Your detection devices would not have worked on the subs either... at least without a specific and targetted search on the waters, with my jamming devices in the cargo hold.

OOC: It is bad form to use OOC knowledge in an IC situation. Menelmacar could not ICly use any of that information because the crew on her gravships would not have any knowledge of what is going on inside of your vessels. It is extremely bad form to have two submarines mystically appear without mentioning them beforehand. If you wanted them to remain secret, you could have stated that their actions were "Secret-IC", and you could have also mentioned the jamming devices, so that way Menelmacar would have had some opportunity to respond to them fairly. Your use of both the subs and the jamming devices were just as fair as her RPing the "second fleet" (which I assume she posted to point out the bad form of your RP).

Perhaps some editing would be called for.

Why won't you take humans? I have some traitors which were originally scheduled for a public reenactment of the story of Julius Ceasar, but it appears we have too many...

I dropped many hints... the Commodore's strange behavior, the fact that the ship did not have a real name, the crew and their submission to whatever the crazy "Commodore" wanted them to do. Your detection devices would not have worked on the subs either... at least without a specific and targetted search on the waters, with my jamming devices in the cargo hold.

OOC: It is bad form to use OOC knowledge in an IC situation. Menelmacar could not ICly use any of that information because the crew on her gravships would not have any knowledge of what is going on inside of your vessels. It is extremely bad form to have two submarines mystically appear without mentioning them beforehand. If you wanted them to remain secret, you could have stated that their actions were "Secret-IC", and you could have also mentioned the jamming devices, so that way Menelmacar would have had some opportunity to respond to them fairly. Your use of both the subs and the jamming devices were just as fair as her RPing the "second fleet" (which I assume she posted to point out the bad form of your RP).

Perhaps some editing would be called for.

OOC: The actions of my crew were all in IC... Melenmacar in fact heard about the entire incident that led to the Interdiction of Belem through the use of her satellites which are able to pick up chatter. Therefore everything that was said by the Commodore and the crew of the vessel could be used.

A "Secret-IC" is almost useless... as long as it is public knowledge, some mysterious "detector" would almost certainly find the submarines (in this case we are talking about submarines,) or Melenmacar would make a note of looking underwater, whereas beforehand she did not mention any sub-surface monitoring (precisely the reason why a submarine would be used.) The cargo was in fact a sophisticated jamming device... if Melenmacar was curious enough, she could have risked a boarding action or getting some sort of informant aboard the vessel, or a myriad of other ways...

Before this continues, just so no one is confused, I just want everyone to know that I had planned on the use of the submarines and the sealed cargo as a dispersor all along!! The subs did not "mysteriously" appear, they were planned all along... that was the mentality of the entire campaign... everything from sending an ineptly led flotilla of outdated vessels to purposely referring to the impending death of the crew's families and the "secret" cargo in cargo hold 7!! I did not just sail to the Interdiction line and say... wouldn't it be neat if I had a few subs? I planned on them the entire bloody time!

As for the pretext for concern vis-a-vis the "fairness" of my operation, it was completely fair. Notice that "fair" does not mean that Siri's forces necessarily know everything that is going on, or that her Interdiction is flawless!! How would anyone be able to beat that then!?! Any good RP must allow the opponent to know that something is going on... but having exact knowledge is not necessary... for in that case any imposing force can get its way... consider:

Any nation with advanced weaponry... let us call it Nation A, which has comparable or better weapons than an imposing nation, can simply set up an "Interdiction" or an "Enclosure" or any sort of blockading action, with no hope for anyone else to get through. Consider Nations B-Z, how can they possibly get around this? Notwithstanding a war, these nations can "sneak in" material... but in RL a submarine does not surface, inform all involved of its intentions, go back down and continue its "secret" operation. Far from it, in RL the enemy may not even know of my intentions to do anything... officially my flotilla should not then be contacted from 100 miles off-shore (as the Melenmacar's did) and inform us to stand back... because they would not know of our intentions.

Anyway, my point here is that an RP should leave hints of action involved, but it is not necessary to inform directly of any moves, especially when they are of a secretive nature. I will have more later.

I dropped many hints... the Commodore's strange behavior, the fact that the ship did not have a real name, the crew and their submission to whatever the crazy "Commodore" wanted them to do. Your detection devices would not have worked on the subs either... at least without a specific and targetted search on the waters, with my jamming devices in the cargo hold.

OOC: It is bad form to use OOC knowledge in an IC situation. Menelmacar could not ICly use any of that information because the crew on her gravships would not have any knowledge of what is going on inside of your vessels. It is extremely bad form to have two submarines mystically appear without mentioning them beforehand. If you wanted them to remain secret, you could have stated that their actions were "Secret-IC", and you could have also mentioned the jamming devices, so that way Menelmacar would have had some opportunity to respond to them fairly. Your use of both the subs and the jamming devices were just as fair as her RPing the "second fleet" (which I assume she posted to point out the bad form of your RP).

Perhaps some editing would be called for.

OOC:
To play devil's advocate for a moment...

And yet, discounting the fact that Menelmacar wouldn't be able to see inside Esamopia's ships (that being the Captain's behaviour) wouldn't one wonder what's up if a ship is trying to run a blockade? I mean, Esamopia sufficiently focused all of Menelmacar's attention on his surface ships. I'd like to believe that Esamopia would tell Menelmacar about the subs if she scanned for them.

Yeah, perhaps this scenario could have been played better. But I'm reminded about Pantera's post a while ago about giving away the whole story through OOC.

OOC: Esamopia, you made no mention of "jamming devices" once during your various posts. Had there been jamming devices, Menelmacar might have noticed them, and then might have been inclined to either a) take out the jamming devices so that she could do a complete scan or b) be more suspicious of your actions. I understand that the interaction between your crew and its Commodore were IC, but Menelmacar would have NO knowledge of what was being said or the Commodore's actions because she was not on the ship when the words were being said. Yes, she has OOC knowledge of the conversation, but you can't use OOC information in character. You are role playing with Menelmacar, who is a future tech nation. I'm sorry you don't like the technology used (which could, very likely, detect the submarines) but it is your choice to role play with her.

Another point, Menelmacar is forcing a blockade, so even IF the submarines got through, she is actively scanning the coast and would have detected when they surfaced, hence allowing her a chance to respond. To simply say that you had "planned to use them all along" is no justification. You did not role play that they were there to begin with, you did not role play them surfacing, you did not role play them conducting their business with Belem, and you did not roleplay them leaving.

I can see that you are neither inclined to see or change the "error of your ways", so I will wait to see how Siri responds. You are welcome to role play however you would like, but there are blatant errors there that you are being the chance to correct. If you choose not to, well, fine. But I would not be too suprised if Siri ignores you.

~Khenala's player

OOC: Esamopia, you made no mention of "jamming devices" once during your various posts. Had there been jamming devices, Menelmacar might have noticed them, and then might have been inclined to either a) take out the jamming devices so that she could do a complete scan or b) be more suspicious of your actions. I understand that the interaction between your crew and its Commodore were IC, but Menelmacar would have NO knowledge of what was being said or the Commodore's actions because she was not on the ship when the words were being said. Yes, she has OOC knowledge of the conversation, but you can't use OOC information in character. You are role playing with Menelmacar, who is a future tech nation. I'm sorry you don't like the technology used (which could, very likely, detect the submarines) but it is your choice to role play with her.

Another point, Menelmacar is forcing a blockade, so even IF the submarines got through, she is actively scanning the coast and would have detected when they surfaced, hence allowing her a chance to respond. To simply say that you had "planned to use them all along" is no justification. You did not role play that they were there to begin with, you did not role play them surfacing, you did not role play them conducting their business with Belem, and you did not roleplay them leaving.

I can see that you are neither inclined to see or change the "error of your ways", so I will wait to see how Siri responds. You are welcome to role play however you would like, but there are blatant errors there that you are being the chance to correct. If you choose not to, well, fine. But I would not be too suprised if Siri ignores you.

~Khenala's player

OOC: Please... someone hold me back... TOO LATE:

First off, I doubt that any of these arguments here are legitimate... most people are likely Siri's long time advocates, regardless, they do bring up some points for discussion, so I will speak:

1. Submarines were not RP-ed leaving for a very good reason, it was a SECRET operation. I had covered this pretty well in the past (I thought,) by saying that any attempt to directly scan the water would have revealed them, however we were careful to keep all the action on the surface, maintain strict radio silence, and carry a jammer on board our vessels, in what we told all was SECRET cargo, something that should have showed some suspicion.

2. All of the conversations of my crew, done in IC, were susceptible to and I believe were in fact monitored by Melenmacar. Melenmacar stated much earlier in the post (I will get the exact quote soon but you could read this by going through the thread in the mean time,) that she was able to know about Belem's "secret" offers for the bodies of living specimens because she has some sort of sattelite network, not to mention her "MISSION" specialists, spying on our nation's communications.

I contend that Melenmacar knew exactly what was going on and applied the knowledge ICly, to back up that claim, I remind you all that it was Melenmacar's fleet that first radioed mine, even while it was 100-200 miles off-shore, that we should head back immediately. The only reason for such an action would have been that Melenmacar knew of our intentions... otherwise, if she did not spy on us, she would not have known the reason for a relatively far encounter, and may have asked us for what we were doing or simply reserved communications till we were closer. I will have further evidence soon!

Finally,
3. If as you say Melenmacar is a "future tech nation" and would thus be:
a. Omnipresent (It is mandatory to inform her, even secret-icly, of my subs, contents of sealed cargo.)
b. Able to deploy with great speed a fleet of highly efficient and unstoppable vessels.
c. Goes on various "Interdiction" campaigns were resistance is futile,
then I seek to see Melenmacar's confirmation. If she confirms that all of #3 is true, then I would apologize and I have in mind an alternate scenario for the Interdiction up to the point where the Commodore is about to be held by those tractor beams.

OOC: Since this is obviously going beyond Belem's thread and the effect of the Interdiction on others, I will start a new thread, its title: "Interdiction controversy"

OOC: Esamopia, you made no mention of "jamming devices" once during your various posts. Had there been jamming devices, Menelmacar might have noticed them, and then might have been inclined to either a) take out the jamming devices so that she could do a complete scan or b) be more suspicious of your actions. I understand that the interaction between your crew and its Commodore were IC, but Menelmacar would have NO knowledge of what was being said or the Commodore's actions because she was not on the ship when the words were being said. Yes, she has OOC knowledge of the conversation, but you can't use OOC information in character. You are role playing with Menelmacar, who is a future tech nation. I'm sorry you don't like the technology used (which could, very likely, detect the submarines) but it is your choice to role play with her.
Quite right. I would not have known about discussions being carried out on the ship, because I don't have a man on your ship.

Jamming devices certainly would have been detected as a matter of course, as would the submarines, without a specific RP action of scanning the water. It's stupid... look even at real life. Do air traffic controllers 'run a radar scan'? No, the radar is always on, it's always scanning. Same with sonar, MAD (magnetic anomaly detection), GAD (gravitic anomaly detection, basically mass sensors), IR, etc. etc. etc. A sensor is pretty useless as an early warning device if you have to consciously press a button to use it, and a comm is pretty useless if you can be jammed and not know pretty damn quick that it's happening.

Another point, Menelmacar is forcing a blockade, so even IF the submarines got through, she is actively scanning the coast and would have detected when they surfaced, hence allowing her a chance to respond. To simply say that you had "planned to use them all along" is no justification. You did not role play that they were there to begin with, you did not role play them surfacing, you did not role play them conducting their business with Belem, and you did not roleplay them leaving.
Another excellent point. We would be watching the coast as well, and be quite familiar by this point in the operation which ships are in port and which ships are not; after all, the idea is just as much to keep them in as to keep you out.

With regard to the subs, I realize it was a secret operation, but yeah, there should have been some RP even while they were in port doing their thing, at the very least. The most reasonable option even while keeping it a surprise would have been to RP the subs passing the line, OOCly giving a chance for me to respond by whatever means would have been best. I should point you to your own post where you said something along the lines of 'I support the Interdiction in principle but I want to see if my plan would have worked'. You not only made the conscious decision to RP with me despite being at a technological disadvantage, but you did so with the specific aim of challenging yourself, to see if my blockade could be beaten. If you just pull a sub out of your rectum at a convenient moment and say, 'too late, I won', you're cheating yourself just as much as cheating me.

OOC: Please... someone hold me back... TOO LATE:

First off, I doubt that any of these arguments here are legitimate... most people are likely Siri's long time advocates, regardless, they do bring up some points for discussion, so I will speak:

1. Submarines were not RP-ed leaving for a very good reason, it was a SECRET operation. I had covered this pretty well in the past (I thought,) by saying that any attempt to directly scan the water would have revealed them, however we were careful to keep all the action on the surface, maintain strict radio silence, and carry a jammer on board our vessels, in what we told all was SECRET cargo, something that should have showed some suspicion.
This secret cargo, without some implication suggesting it was anything else (like communication frequencies being jammed, which is after all what a jammer does), would of course have been assumed to be the Elven prisoners.

2. All of the conversations of my crew, done in IC, were susceptible to and I believe were in fact monitored by Melenmacar. Melenmacar stated much earlier in the post (I will get the exact quote soon but you could read this by going through the thread in the mean time,) that she was able to know about Belem's "secret" offers for the bodies of living specimens because she has some sort of sattelite network, not to mention her "MISSION" specialists, spying on our nation's communications.
I can't spy on in-person conversations aboard your ship unless I have a man on board or managed to place a bug, neither of which I did. As for the satellite intercepts of Belem's offer, this is a RL capability; I point you to the United States' capability to listen in on al-Qaida radio and satellite phone communications. Email can be read and intercepted as well, just about every email that is sent, received, or passes through the US is intercepted by a little thing called Carnivore, which runs through a list of keywords to spot communications which might be a threat to security. Menelmacari technology takes it a step further, with the capability to do similar wizardry with phone communications and voice identification. This has been RPed before under the name of "Project Flowerpot", though the relevant thread has since been purged. Frankly, it's actually rather difficult to send a communication nowadays without some ridiculously overfunded intel agency somewhere having some inkling about it. If it's on the board, and it's not specifically OOCly stated as 'This is a big honkin' secret, you do NOT know about this', one can only assume that the communication was either public or vulnerable to interception. Belem did not state the offer was secret.

I contend that Melenmacar knew exactly what was going on and applied the knowledge ICly, to back up that claim, I remind you all that it was Melenmacar's fleet that first radioed mine, even while it was 100-200 miles off-shore, that we should head back immediately. The only reason for such an action would have been that Melenmacar knew of our intentions... otherwise, if she did not spy on us, she would not have known the reason for a relatively far encounter, and may have asked us for what we were doing or simply reserved communications till we were closer. I will have further evidence soon!
A fair point, you might have been heading to a different nation on entirely unrelated business, perhaps 100-200 miles was too far in terms of an engagement range.

Finally,
3. If as you say Melenmacar is a "future tech nation" and would thus be:
a. Omnipresent (It is mandatory to inform her, even secret-icly, of my subs, contents of sealed cargo.)
b. Able to deploy with great speed a fleet of highly efficient and unstoppable vessels.
c. Goes on various "Interdiction" campaigns were resistance is futile,
then I seek to see Melenmacar's confirmation. If she confirms that all of #3 is true, then I would apologize and I have in mind an alternate scenario for the Interdiction up to the point where the Commodore is about to be held by those tractor beams.
3a. Am I omnipresent? No. Do I have extensive intelligence resources? Yes. So, the nature of your cargo I would probably not have known about (until the jamming was detected). The discussions with the Commodore I definitely would not have known about. Belem's not-so-secret offer, and your offer to supply Elves, I could very easily have intercepted. In fact, you even said, and I quote: "so no matter what this cannot be revealed within my nation... though Melenmacar may be able to intercept this message." The subs would have been detected, though for RP purposes it could have very easily been at a near enough range that I really would have had to scramble to stop them. The jamming I would have spotted as well, when it was noticed some of our communications frequencies were blanked out.

3b. Yes, the ships can deploy quickly. They are not unstoppable (one of my battleships, the MIS Turambar ("Master of Doom") was brought down in a thread a few months back, though she was later salvaged) but they are quite powerful. In terms of speed, in atmosphere the capital ships are high subsonic, about the speed of a 747. Dropships and other small craft are Mach ~2-3, fighters and combat aircraft somewhere around Mach ~3.5-4.5. All can reach relativistic speeds in space. Further, yes, the ships could deploy in time; I specifically stated that the Interdiction would begin 24 hours after my initial announcement, this gives enough time for the nearest fleet to move into position.

3c. Futile? No. Highly difficult? Yes. It was your decision to challenge yourself with trying to break the line, despite supporting the principles behind the Interdiction. At any rate, the Interdictions are part of an attempt on my part to cut down on my readiness to use violence - too often in the past my response would have been to simply topple Belem's government and be done with it.

Phew. That took a while to type. I look forward to your response, Esamopia.

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Thelas? I posted about the inspection of the Astaria, I'm waiting for your response.

The Astarias impeller drives power down, and braking thrusters are gradually applied until the ship has zero velocity.

OOC: How good are your scanners? And the cargo hold is going to take a while to search, with it being pitch black, vacuum, and zero gravity.


Good, Really good, also, the Thelas ships are going to do a "Personal Inspection". In other words, prepare to be boarded.

IC: as the Verenii ship slows to a stop, several Magnetic grappeling hocks latch on to its' out skin and the ship is reiled next to one of the destroyers. "Verenii ship, prepare to be boarded.

OOC: If the troops are allowed onboard tell me what they find

Its spelled Vernii :) The ships airlock opens and the boarding party is met by the captain and some security officers. There are 5 security personnel, wearing light body armer and with light pulsers holstered.

24 Thelas troops are standing on the other side of the airlock, weapons raized and charged. They look at the fregther crew, then, a unit commander speaks, "Ahh Captain, I see you have decided to allow us to board. No, If you will allow us inside, we can conduct the inspection. Any Elven prisoners that we find will be liberated, any weapons will be confinscated. And other than theat, you will be allowed to go on. Other wise, the rest of the battle fleet will happily blow you to sub-atomic ash."

Esamatopia, you Godmodded, plain and simple. Menelmacar though Sirithil is a powerful mage with Palantir, she almost never uses magic in a nation based RP. No matter how good your tech is, she could not have seen that you were behaving eraticaly. Also, though Menel has flaws, don' we all :P , she understands the diference between Secret IC, IC, and OOC. Secret IC means that unless you have a very good reason, you have no clue of what is going on, IC means that most people know, and OOC well, if you did not know that...

You Godmodded, and I hold Menelmacar in high regard for not IGNOREing you right now.

Esamatopia, you Godmodded, plain and simple. Menelmacar though Sirithil is a powerful mage with Palantir, she almost never uses magic in a nation based RP. No matter how good your tech is, she could not have seen that you were behaving eraticaly. Also, though Menel has flaws, don' we all :P , she understands the diference between Secret IC, IC, and OOC. Secret IC means that unless you have a very good reason, you have no clue of what is going on, IC means that most people know, and OOC well, if you did not know that...

You Godmodded, and I hold Menelmacar in high regard for not IGNOREing you right now.

OOC Thelas, you throw out the term "Godmod" way to easily.

Alright your men are allowed into the cargo holds.
I'll go ahead and list my ships cargo, because they prob would take their time and scan every container.

-food
-medicine
-industrial machinery
-electronics
-dissasembled nuclear reactor (for a powerplant)
-radiation shielding
-energy batteries
-metal plating
-luxury goods
-cloth
-misc civilian items

Esamatopia, you Godmodded, plain and simple. Menelmacar though Sirithil is a powerful mage with Palantir, she almost never uses magic in a nation based RP. No matter how good your tech is, she could not have seen that you were behaving eraticaly. Also, though Menel has flaws, don' we all :P , she understands the diference between Secret IC, IC, and OOC. Secret IC means that unless you have a very good reason, you have no clue of what is going on, IC means that most people know, and OOC well, if you did not know that...

You Godmodded, and I hold Menelmacar in high regard for not IGNOREing you right now.

OOC Thelas, you throw out the term "Godmod" way to easily.

OOC: I think that in this case it is justified, I know, I have a low tolerance for overly large streches of reality, even though I admitthat I have commited several in my NS life time.

IC: The troops looked around the Vernii ship, searching every container and crevice. Finally the commander contacted the captain of the ship as he was leaving with his men, "You are cleared to pass, we have found nothing suspicious aboard your ship, sorry for the delay." The soldiers left, and the destroyer disengaged its' docking clamps.

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YOUR ALL ODD! except belem :wink:

'Except Belem'?

Damn. I never thought I'd see anyone say that.

~Siri

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YOUR ALL ODD! except belem :wink:

:shock:

I must concure with Menelmacar.

:shock:

just to get this above the spam BUMP

The Astaria enters low orbit over Belem, and cargo shuttles begin the transfer of it's cargo to Belem's capital.

Hmm, since my first cargo made it through the blockade, can I assume that the other 19 shipments of exactly the same things can make it? That'd be a lot to roleplay out, and this time I'm using a convoy system with a destroyer as escort.

Hmm, since my first cargo made it through the blockade, can I assume that the other 19 shipments of exactly the same things can make it? That'd be a lot to roleplay out, and this time I'm using a convoy system with a destroyer as escort.

Assume that the were boarded searched and so forth. By the way, by now, the rest of the battlefleet has arrived.

Ok then, four convoys each consisting of 5 freighters and 2 destroyers deliver their cargoes to Belem.

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