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Changes in the Xanthalian government. #Suggestions wanted!#

Xanthal
18-10-2003, 07:36
The Xanthalian government is consolodating from three branches into a single, Executive branch. To compensate for the lost services of the other branches and improve service in specific areas of society, the government has begun creating ministries to operate and oversee the mechanisms of Xanthal. The ministy list is still under construction, but the list of ministries being created thus far is below.
-Ministry of Commerce
-Ministry of Communications
-Ministry of Defense
-Ministry of Development
-Ministry of Economics
-Ministry of Education
-Ministry of Environment
-Ministry of Equality
-Ministry of Health
-Ministry of Foreign Affairs
-Ministry of Industry
-Ministry of Justice
-Ministry of Safety
-Ministry of Science
-Ministry of Social Affairs
-Ministry of Transportation
-Ministry of Truth
-Ministry of Utilities

OOC: If anyone has ideas for more ministries I could add, please do tell.
New Eastgate
18-10-2003, 07:48
The Ministry of Administrative Affairs? Everybody likes civil servants!
18-10-2003, 08:08
Ministry of Public Indoctrination?
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 08:13
New Eastgate: I think I'll pass that one up. Good idea though, keep the suggestions flowing.

Famicon: Excellent. The government is big on that. I'll add it to the list as the Ministry of Indoctrination.
Western Asia
18-10-2003, 08:14
(Ministry of Defense? or is that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (State Dept?))
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 08:15
Ministry of Defense! Of course! How could I forget? I'll add that. They can deal with the military and the XIA.
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 08:17
Come on my friends, keep the ideas coming!
Treznor
18-10-2003, 08:19
You already have a Ministry of Truth. Wouldn't that cast suspicion on your Ministry of Public Indoctrination?
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 08:24
Treznor: There's Fact and then there's Opinion. The Ministry of Truth deals with the former, the Ministry of Indoctrination the latter.
The Resi Corporation
18-10-2003, 08:30
What would international trade fall under? Foreign affairs or Economics?
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 08:31
The Resi Corporation: Neither. International trade will be handled by the Ministry of Commerce.
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 08:36
Well, I've got to go to bed. Keep the suggestions coming! If this gets too far down, I'd appreciate any BUMPS that my fellow NSers could give it. I'll come back and see what you've got for me in the morning!
Isla de Penguinata
18-10-2003, 08:37
What exactly is the Ministry of Indoctrination? :?:

I suggest a Ministry of Agriculture, and possibly one of Interstellar Travel/Transportation. (You are a space nation, are you not?)

Good luck. :P :)
Trixia
18-10-2003, 09:09
A Ministy of Offence ? :wink:

Or a Leadership Ministy?
Aust
18-10-2003, 09:36
Ministry of Children
Tsaraine
18-10-2003, 09:59
This is just my opinion, but I think you've got too many ministries; with that many, you'd get conflicts over jurisdiction, and the red tape would slow everything down.

Perhaps you could merge Equality with Sentient Rights, forming the Ministry of National Equality?

Merge Truth with Indoctrination to form the Ministry of Proper Thought?

Justice appears to be the courts, and Safety the police, so you could merge Safety into Justice, and make the police servants of the courts, or vice versa make the courts part of the police.

Economics could definitely be merged with Commerce; perhaps the Ministry of Trade?

Could Development be merged with Industry to form the Ministry of Industrial Development?

Since Communications, Transport and Utilities are all infrastructure related things, you could make them the Ministry of Infrastructure.

Perhaps you could make a Ministry of Tourism, or add that to Foreign Affairs if tourism isn't common enough to warrant it's own Ministry?

Of course, these are all just my ideas, and you're under no obligation whatsoever to follow them. :)
Trixia
18-10-2003, 10:13
This is just my opinion, but I think you've got too many ministries; with that many, you'd get conflicts over jurisdiction, and the red tape would slow everything down.

Perhaps you could merge Equality with Sentient Rights, forming the Ministry of National Equality?

Merge Truth with Indoctrination to form the Ministry of Proper Thought?

Justice appears to be the courts, and Safety the police, so you could merge Safety into Justice, and make the police servants of the courts, or vice versa make the courts part of the police.

Economics could definitely be merged with Commerce; perhaps the Ministry of Trade?

Could Development be merged with Industry to form the Ministry of Industrial Development?

Since Communications, Transport and Utilities are all infrastructure related things, you could make them the Ministry of Infrastructure.

Perhaps you could make a Ministry of Tourism, or add that to Foreign Affairs if tourism isn't common enough to warrant it's own Ministry?

Of course, these are all just my ideas, and you're under no obligation whatsoever to follow them. :)

Now thats a good idea! :D
Debaermania
18-10-2003, 11:21
I suggest the creation of a" ministry of public service"(ministère du service public"
Knootoss
18-10-2003, 12:20
IC:
In order to gain maximum efficiency and coordination we urge the Xantallian government to cut down on the proposed number of ministries. We would suggest that the ministries are organised in major clusters around certain aspects of policy. Thusly, the amount of competences (erm... jobs) that are overlapping will decrease along with bureaucratic competition. This will also allow for a more integral policy. If neccecery the different specialisations can be done by state-secretaries. Let me propose a regrouping of the ministries below.

~LJ Brinkhorst
Ministry of Economic Affairs

OOC: I study administrative governance. :P

Ministry of Economic affairs
-Ministry of Commerce
-Ministry of Communications
-Ministry of Development (if you mean internal development)
-Ministry of Economics
-Ministry of Industry
-Ministry of Utilities
-Ministry of Transportation

Ministry of Domestic Affairs
-Ministry of Environment
-Ministry of Equality
-Ministry of Indoctrination
-Ministry of Justice
-Ministry of Safety
-Ministry of Sentient Rights
-Ministry of Truth

Ministry of Foreign affairs
-Ministry of Foreign Affairs
-Ministry of Development (if you meant external development ie aid)

Ministry of Defence
-Ministry of Defense

Proposed additions:

Office of the >head of state<
Responsible for integral policy, chairing the council of ministers and some other stately responsibilities depending on what kind of nation you are.

Ministry of Education, Culture and the Sciences
(or Ministry of knowledge if you prefer - it seems pretty important)
Would be responsible for the education system, cultural subsidies etc and coordination and stimulation of scientific development. Coordinating between universities and the private sector (if you have one) that sort of stuff.

Small stuff
-I would add "healthcare", "agriculture", "sports" and "welfare" as a task under domestic affairs if this isn't already covered under "equality" somehow..
-A ministry/state-secretariat of Finance (government finance) under Economic Affairs is quite essential. Someone has to make your nations budget!

EDIT: someone alse proposed something similar I see now. But this still is a bit more comprehensive. :P
18-10-2003, 12:24
You should make a ministry of agriculture, you are forgeting about food!
18-10-2003, 12:24
Ministry of Children


ehm ... what?
18-10-2003, 15:10
Ministry of Health
Ministry of Education
Ministry of Internal Affairs (for migration, social issues, birth, marriages, deaths, etc.)
Kecha
18-10-2003, 15:15
Ministry of War, like the Ministry of Defense in that it deals with the Armed Forces, but they concentrate on developing plans and methods for fighting other countries, instead of Homeland Defense.
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 18:12
Isla de Penguinata: I think I'll pass those. I have a ministry of Transportation, and we don't do much agriculture, so that's under the ministry of Environment.

Trixia: The central government is the leadership ministry. And the Ministry of Defense covers offense.

Aust: I'll make that education, but good.

Tsaraine: Noted, but I don't want to merge them for various reasons. Each has a set of specific tasks, and when a task relates to more than one ministry they work together.

Debaermania: No, that's covered by other ministries. I don't want to be redundant.

Knootoss: We cannot merge the functions of such different tasks into larger ministries. Collaboration tools are easily accessable to the ministries, and government cooperation is high in Xanthal. Things will work out.
The Head of State is the Dictator; and that's not a ministry, it's the central government.
Good, I got Education. Culture is irrelevant to us, so no ministry there. Sciences though... Very good. I'll add it.
Small stuff... Nah.

Manganland: Xanthal has virtually no agriculture except for city beautification purposes. We have replicators make our food.

Mega Tau: Health. Excellent. I got Education, Internal Affairs... Good, but I'll change that to Social Affairs.

Kecha: Okay... I hear you, but the Ministry of Defense covers that too.



Keep the ideas coming guys!
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 18:15
Ministry of Sentient Rights changed to Ministry of Social Affairs. Ministry of Indoctrination changed to Ministry of Education.
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 18:29
Anything else?
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 21:23
Last bump before list is finalized!
Xanthal
18-10-2003, 21:42
Okay then! Thread over! Thanks for all of your great suggestions!