NationStates Jolt Archive

Golan Heights

In 1967, the Golan Heights were illegally occupied by the Zionist entity. Now that Syria is apart of Al Anbar, we feel it is our duty to reunite Syria.

Our proposal is quite simple:

We demand the return of the rightful 'Golan Heights' area to Al Anbar. Golan Heights is Syria and it will be returned one way or the other, but we wish to settle this peaceful, with no losses of life.

Western Asia existed before Al Anbar and will exist once it has passed.

The Golan has been a solid and secured part of Western Asia throughout this time.

We have numerous allies who will protect us from your continued agressions and we will assure them all a portion of your lands if you so much as send a single soldier across our borders.

We believe that that is all that there is to be said.

OOC: I take it that you want Syria to be counted as a part of Al Anbar as it was in that one RP. I may accept this condition for another RP but Syria...in most cases...is part of Western Asia. This means that Syria and the Golan are, indeed, united.

We would like to warn the government of Al Anbar that its continued threats against interests of the world may earn them some "lessons" from Omzian People's Liberation Forces.

The "lessons" will not be big, but they will have a huge repercussion effect.

Be cautious.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

We would advise that Al Anbar does not threaten our ally.

Princess Lina, minster of Forgien affairs.

We will not stand by idle while part of Al Anbar is occupied by Western Asia.

OOC: Well, whatever. But, I will always consider Syria mine.

We will not stand by idle while part of Al Anbar is occupied by Western Asia.
We suggest Al Anbar let's the status quo prevail. Should any action be taken against our ally, we will assist them.

Bureau of Foreign Affairs.

Al Anbar, you are thretening yourself. Since Western Asia is a member of the New Jewish Alliance and I'm the president of that NJA I will honarably fight alongside Western Asia.

OOC: Bah, a Jewish alliance. hrm

AL- Anbar, Retract you claims and stop any aggression against Western Asia.


Empire of Gradenk would send her forces to defend Western Asia if our help is needed. You have been warned. Don't tempt us into action.

Empire of Gradenk has a defensive pact with Western Asia, It's against our interest to fight with a nation who is "struggling " economically, where political freedom is outlawed and civil rights unheard of.

You would be crushed with the combined forces of allied troops and machinery.

Desist or be prepared to be invaded.

Greeting.

A message from the Empire of Pahlawan to Al-Anbar, retract you claims and stop any aggression against Western Asia.

War is an idiot way of getting something that do not belong to them.

I've got definite Western Asia preferences here, I did buy ships from him if I remember correctly, but I'm not intending to take any action, just to watch.

Even though Western Asia left the IDI we are still allied though the Zion Pact(Is it still around I don't remember it dissoving)

Even though Western Asia left the IDI we are still allied though the Zion Pact(Is it still around I don't remember it dissoving) Very well, as Teritora is an ally of ours, if they get militarily involved, so to shall we.

Greeting.

A message from the Empire of Pahlawan to Al-Anbar, retract you claims and stop any aggression against Western Asia.

War is an idiot way of getting something that do not belong to them.

The "Golan Heights" belongs to Syria. You should not be telling us "war an an idiot way of getting something that do not belong to them", but you should be telling that to Western Asia, who stole the territory in 1967.

We warn the war dogs at Al Anbar to cease these ridiculas proganda, or you may face Omzian People's Liberation Force's "psylogical lessons".

We also ask Western Asia if it is possible to station a small forces of ours within the Western Asian border for stability.

To Al-Anbar, now Golan Height has been occupied by the Western Asia. Then there was peace and prosper for both nations, and now, you want to destroy all these by starting a new war. Please, re-consider my suggestion.

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We demand that the Golan Heights be returned to Al Anbar. Evacuations must begin within 72 to hours or we will have to use other methods other than diplomacy to entice you to leave the Golan Heights area.

New York City, Capital of the Federal Republic of NYNJ:

Watching events unfold on TV President de los Santos and his Personnel Aid William Flores weighed in privately on the situation that was quickly unfolding...

"I got 100 to 1 that WA, crushes Al-Abar faster than the Israeli's crushed their enemies in the seven day war..."

"It's Al Anbar, Mr. President..."

"Anbar...A Bar...I want a drink now.You know...send a bottle of fine wine and liqour over to the leadership of Al-Anbar...if that dont scream diplomatic insult. Nothing will."

"But Mr. President I didnt know we wanted to provoke a fight as well."

"We dont...besides by the time the package gets there, it'll be in the hands of WA or whichever one of their allies has arrived in the region...It'll be like a congrats thing or something..."

"Good idea...shall I send over porno mags as well?"

"Yeah. Oh and burn a few Korans, take pictures of it, and send it to them as well. "

"Why burn the Koran?"

"Because burning flags is so cliche now...everyone does it, so we burn something that means something to them."

"Very good Mr. President I'll get started on it now."

ooc: That's real smart, NYNJ.

OOC: To save others the time: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82498 (Thread with related info).

IC:Above WA

4 of WA's 14-odd GATEKEEPER ULA units rise into the air for the beginning of an enhanced strength 6-day patrol. Onboard, weapons specialists check over the on-board munitions and ensure that all of the ships' systems are cleared.

Along the border
Armored platoons remain at the ready in support of heavily armored and armed border stations.

STHEL and SAM emplacements guard the skies and the nation's Arrow ABM batteries look for short-range threats.

In WA's Interior
Soldiers sleep. Secure in the knowledge that they will perhaps fight within the next few days but that in any case they will be moving forward, never back. Comforted that their leaders will guide them well and that they will defend their friends and families.

Citizens sleep. Secure in the knowledge that their nation would be gloriously successful in any action. Comforted that their soldiers and government will defend and lead them well.

Leaders sleep. Secure in the knowledge that they will be guiding a supported and beloved nation. Comforted that their citizens and soldiers will support and trust them.

Western Asia sleeps. Seeing the storm, accepting the storm, and knowing that it will create the whirlwind.

While the ISAN felt that Al Anbar's position was "a little silly, really" and previously had no intention of becoming involved in this situation at all, NY&J's reported burning of holy texts by governmental decree has caused outrage. With a Muslim population of several hundred million, and with religious feelings recently fostered by governmental programmes in light of the nation's efforts to put down a communist insurrection in Dunyabi, anger has spilled over into minor violence in the southern Andaman Islands.

Liberation has grudgingly turned a blind eye to public burnings of a variety of NY&J paraphernalia, from sports team shirts (ooc:I'm assuming the nation has some sort of major basketball/American football/whatever teams merchandising away), to flags, and even NY&J dollars.

In an effort to avoid pressures to take drastic economic action against the nation in question, Liberation (ISAN's capital) has mounted an advertising campaign lampooning NY&J's marginally inferior auto industry, and jumping on any other aspects of life in which ISAN can be deemed superior. The hope is that enraged Muslims will find it easier to have a laugh and move on, than to begin heading off on some sort of Jihad, or demanding sanctions.

(FBCo.plc has begun to sell t-shirts and other tacky goods adorned with slogans such as "Keep a New Yorker warm- give the poor man a book and match", and others intended to suggest that the burnings are only done because the nation is so poor that it is the only way to stay warm/cook food/see at night, and so on. Ha ha.. yeah. Well it keeps the retain sector ticking over until Christmas, when the Christian majority gets out the cheque book.)

Transmission to NY&NJ
We've heard reports (OOC: AnN, he hasn't done anything yet that we'd know of) that you are planning on burning several Koran to make a point. As a large minority of Western Asia's population is Muslim and the rest rather friendly towards Islam, we kindly request that you restrain from the sacrilege of religious symbology.

As we know of it, Al Anbar is rather secular in reality and Saddam retains the vestiges of Islam to draw support. The apparent assault on Islamic beliefs will do well for noone's cause.

We will be happy to let your representatives burn any Al Anbar flags that remain if they press us into war.

As we have long appreciated the benefit of your open ports, we would like to offer you certain rights when this matter has been concluded.

ooc: well, I did say reported, but I wouldn't have gone even that far except that I suspected he wouldn't bother to make another post specifically saying "you know that thing we said we'd do last post? We've done it now". Hope I didn't jump the gun by too far. ISAN has no real stance on the territorian dispute- we'd lean in favour of WA, except that ISAN's arch enemy (Beth Gellert) is probably in support of them, and so we can't possibly be seen to agree :)

Greeting.

A message from the Empire of Pahlawan to Al-Anbar, retract you claims and stop any aggression against Western Asia.

War is an idiot way of getting something that do not belong to them.

The "Golan Heights" belongs to Syria. You should not be telling us "war an an idiot way of getting something that do not belong to them", but you should be telling that to Western Asia, who stole the territory in 1967.
It's sort of a grand tradition in warfare that when you start a war and lose, you have to give something to the winner.

Consider that the Golan Heights. It's gone. Deal with it. If you so much as twitch across that border - which Menelmacar has recognized even since 1967 - you will face our wrath. And you will not survive it.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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We, the Empire of Pahlawan is very disappointed with NYNJ action. Although, we have no official religion, but Muslim are major citizen in our nation. Therefore, maybe we will re-consider our support toward Western Asia. However, we will remain peace and neutral, and we urge NYNJ to stop insulting Islam.

Daeng Bachik
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Ell is considering deploying a large peacekeeping force in the region to ease rising religious tensions.

Being as we have a vested interest economically speaking with Western Asia, they have our support as well. We have a number of ships we have purchased from Western Asia that we can move into position, and a considerable fast-attack ground force that we are willing to send to their aid, though we find it unlikely that WA will require much, if any, assistance.

Perhaps, rather than making demands like some mighty superpower, you might want to consider a more diplomatic approach to Western Asia about the ownership of the contested land?

Rushing to war is ill-advised, and will only bring the wrath of a collective military force bigger than your entire population upon you.

Be wary of the dogs of war, for they are often rabid and must be put out of their misery swiftly.

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~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs
~Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions

We wish to give our full and unconditional support to Al Anbar. Clearly they are being threatened by the usual band of Zionist thugs hell bent upon the anihilation of Islam. As usual we will also call upon allied support should war be forced upon us by the barbaric so called 'Western Nations'.

(OOC) Also FYI I will ignore any ubertech or magical nonsense that goes on.

Liverpool England backs Western Asia, our old ally in WW4.

We wish to give our full and unconditional support to Al Anbar. Clearly they are being threatened by the usual band of Zionist thugs hell bent upon the anihilation of Islam. As usual we will also call upon allied support should war be forced upon us by the barbaric so called 'Western Nations'.

(OOC) Also FYI I will ignore any ubertech or magical nonsense that goes on.

We would recommend Dyelli Beybi reconsider their position. Western Asia has made no threats of action against Al Anbar aside from a stern warning not to attempt violence against them, while said nation has outright threatened violence. Who's being barbaric?

Religion has no place in this arguement, as I can safely say that the Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions at the very least has a wide range of religious beliefs, including a sizable Muslim community.

This is not about religion. This is about greedy land-grabbing and warmongering. If Al Anbar stands down instead of rushing headlong into a war they cannot win, then there will be no violence. We strongly encourage Al Anbar to approach Western Asia in a mature, diplomatic manner concerning their claims to the Golan Heights, rather than resorting to childish threats of murder.

Violence is the final resort of the intelligent, and the first resort of the incompetant.

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~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs
~Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions

There is no intend to provoke any nations religion either Al-Anbar or Western Asia. However, NYNJ has bring forward their desire to burn Qur'an (Koran) as a kind protest. Now, how should we deal this situation?

Daeng Bachik
Minister of Foreign Affairs

to NYNJ:

We're disappointed with your actions. This shows that you have no respect for any religion. Burning(attempting to burn) a sacred religious text is despicable and we strongly urge you to REFRAIN yourself and that of your citizens from burning the Koran or any religious symbols. How would you feel if somebody burns your Religious book. ? I'm sure you would be angry enough to even kill the person don't you ? Unless ofcourse if you're an atheist. If then. The statement above does not hold true for you.

To Al-Anbar,

We again warn you not to commit aggression against our Ally, Western Asia. We hope you would make good judgement and initiate Diplomatic Talks with Western Asia. Western Asia did not retaliate or invaded any of your territories at the moment and he is still ready to initiate diplomatic talks with you.Desist your war-mongering efforts and engage in the art of diplomacy. If you launch any attacks, Gradenk would aid her ally. Lastly, we hope that the issue between both of you would be solved amicably.

We would like to warn the dogs of Al Anbar again to cease all treats to interests of peace around the world, and participate in peace talks in stabilization. We also request Al Anbar to cease spreading its anti-Western Asian proganda. Failure to do so may result in a mobilization of Omzian forces.

We are also very sickened by the actions of New York and Jersey. What we are fighting is the warmongering government of Al Anbar, not the Muslim population.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

The Federation of Hrstrovokia supports Diplomacy in the Golan Heights question. The Hrstrovokian Ambassador to the United Nations has proposed Economic Sanctions to any state who becomes overtly Belligerent.

Though the Hrstrovokian Government has taken this neutral line in Al Anbar - Western Asia relations, we feel encouraged to support a peaceful solution to the dispute.

The Parliament has been contending whether or not to support Al Anbar, a friendly power, with Soldiers and Weapons. It is a highly contested debate, still ongoing.

Western Aisa:

You must not make concessions to pigs like Al-Anbar and Dyelli Beybi. They have no support, and you have the backing of many NS powerhouses. If Al-Anbar so much as twitches in a way you do not like...unleash hell on him.

Xerloxian Intercontinental bomber squadrons have been activated. If our allie Western Asia is attacked Al-Anbar will be wiped off the earth.

(by conventional bombing attacks

The Islamic Republic of Iran would like to inform Al-Anbar that if he carries out another war of agression, he will have to deal with the Iranian army that is already amassed along his border.

The Parliament has been contending whether or not to support Al Anbar, a friendly power, with Soldiers and Weapons. It is a highly contested debate, still ongoing.

We have already noted your imperalistic annexing of a land beside you, for population puproses.

Supporting Al Anbar would only get you into his death trap in events of an invasion.

Not only Al Anbar is a threat to the Middle East, but also to the world. Al Anbar has already threatened the interests of Western Asia, Ell, and us.

Offical Policy Statement:
While it is true several books of the Koran were burned privately, these were down by some of my own staffers and nothing else. They will each recieve an appropriate punishment for their illegal use of office time. We apologize for any misgivings this has created among nations of the world about NY&NJ. We are generally an open nation catering to people from all ethnic backrounds and walks of life.

Private Statements:
To Gradenk:
You mean to tell me that violence against Christian and Jews doesnt exist in Islamic countries? The burning of 1 or 2 Korans no where near reaches massacres of Christians in church praying. No we are not atheist, no we are not bigots, we just dont like stupidity and at the moment Al-Anbar is the pinnacle of it attempt to take on several larger military powers.

To Western Asia:
We have stopped the book burning per your request, and will switch over to flag burning, and the such. We wish you luck in your impending war, and while we might not be able to send any signifficant amount of troops in time to help crush these vermin at your borders, we can provide you with monetary aid to help easy the burden of any war on your shoulder.

To Al Anbar:
Several boxes of alcohol ranging from the cheapest wine to poison laced whiskey was set to arrive sometime today along with several porno mags and other things that would be considered offensive to the Al-Anbar. Several pictures of WA troops super imposed on several pictures of Baghdad with the caption "This could be your capital" were also included."

"To Al Anbar:
Several boxes of alcohol ranging from the cheapest wine to poison laced whiskey was set to arrive sometime today along with several porno mags and other things that would be considered offensive to the Al-Anbar. Several pictures of WA troops super imposed on several pictures of Baghdad with the caption 'This could be your capital" were also included.'"

"Hey, I know attempting to poison my countrymen, and fortelling the over-running of my home by foreign soldiers would make me back down and suddenly adopt a complicit attitude!" The sarcastic President Brown exclaimed before realising just how many channels were still open..

In the Capital Building Conference Room:
Viewable in NYNJ on C-SPAN 2.
"We were trying to make Al-Anbar adopt a complicit attitude?" The bemused Secretary of State Alfred Weinwright said as he looked around the long oval table at his peers.

"No we were trying to insult them, and this idiot Brown thinks we're trying to make them back down." The Secretary of War Jack Garner replied as he took a puff of his cigar and and relaxed in the plush chair.

"The idiot can think whatever he wants, our intention was of course to insult Al-Anbar...not make them complicit to the worlds demands or anything of that nature. Pure and simple, a diplomatic incident. A rather overt one at that." Vice President Thomas Salvatore said as he pulled out a deck of cards from the inside of his suit.

"It's poker night already? Me and my wallet are still crying from the last time we played...I dont think the tax payers pay me enough to take another beating." President de los Santos finally chimmed in and returned his attention to the meeting at hand.

A message from Western Asia

We would like to express our appreciation of the support that so many of our friends have given us, even as we are threatened with violent assaults upon our citizenry.

Your support has made our people feel comfort in a time of concern. Your words have brought our government great hopefulness.

We thank you greatly for all of this.

OOC: NY&NJ, a show of your national leadership playing poker is a great idea...and it probably would have a huge viewership. Just imagine the "appeal to the common man" that the show would make!

Mr.Giles had been standing nervously in the corner ever since handing Brown the tape, while the president laughed himself silly, spilling some rather pricey Scotch in the process. Giles didn't get it.

"..Maybe the poker's symbolic of an on-going deception, though, sir? No?"

Head down, Giles departed, tasked with concoting something to get the Muslim population's mind off the Al Anbar and NY&J incitements before further riots broke out.

Message to Dyelli Beybi

We thank you for offering to assist us against these Zionist warmongers. We will try to settle this through diplomacy once again, but should diplomacy fails, we will take the Golan Heights by force, inshallah.

Andaman and Nicobar

Tapes of religious speeches of very well known Iraqi Sunni and Shi'ite religious leaders are being brought into the country and propagated among the Muslim population. Most of the tapes demand Jihad against the Zionists and NYNJ.

Various video tapes has been sent to various Al Anbar agencies via nertual countries by our government personnel, including the Intelligence Agency, Infomation Ministry, and Defence Ministries. The video tapes has scenes of several Omzian aircraft dropping penetration bombs onto bunkers, and the devastating effect. Also recorded is a scene of a bombing run by an Omzian B-2A, dropping a barrage of 2000lb JDAM bombs. Another scene is an Omzian submarine launching cruise missiles and tactical ballistic missiles. The last scene shows several Javelin and TOW missiles launching at BMP-3s and T-80UDs, destroying them.

At the end, a 5 minutes mini-scene of porn and loud and hard rock is played.

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NyNJ,


I said this,
We're disappointed with your actions. This shows that you have no respect for any religion. Burning(attempting to burn) a sacred religious text is despicable and we strongly urge you to REFRAIN yourself and that of your citizens from burning the Koran or any religious symbols. How would you feel if somebody burns your Religious book. ? I'm sure you would be angry enough to even kill the person don't you ? Unless ofcourse if you're an atheist. If then. The statement above does not hold true for you.


I did not say that violence did not exist in Muslim countries. If you say that all muslim countries treat the minorities badly..then you're wrong. I come from a muslim country ( I'm a hindu ) and yet I'm given the freedom to practise my own religion. My Christian friends also celebrate their own celebrations freely and let me tell you one thing. In Malaysia. If anybody were to burn a religious book that person would be incarcerated badly. The simple reason is because we respect each and every religion in Malaysia.

Christmas like many other celebrations ( Deepavali, Aidil Fitri ) is celebrated widely and with great pomp and joy. Muslims and non muslims take part in the celebrations.

I don't know how you inferred from my statement that I'm condoning such acts. I'm just saying that burning any religious book is a terrible thing. I'm living in a country which takes seriously any attempt to discredit any other religion. My parents have been through a dark period in the country ..racial riots. I know the cost of such calamity.

It's better to act with a cool head rather than acting rashly. For the cost is too great.

Message from the Volstik Department of Defense:

3 Korsar class frigates are being deployed to roughly 50 miles off the Syrian coast in international waters. Any attack on them by Al-Anbar will be view upon as an act of war.

Secret:
3 Amur class SSK's are traveling with the frigates

A single MiG-31 is bieng prepared for a possible recon sortie over the Golan.

If both parties are willing to talk, we would be happy to host peace talks in New Pegasii City in our northern territory of Aquamarine. The only stipulation would be for all parties to come unarmed. Despite stern words, we sincerely do hope this can be resolved without senseless violence.

To say 'senseless violence' is to be redundant, for violence in of itself is inherently senseless.

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~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs
~Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions

Retracted

We will again suggest Al Anbar to cease its proganda making. Golan Heights is always a Western Asian territory. Unless the nation of Al ANbar could state when Western Asia actually declared the annexation of Golan Heights, then we will take this as "propaganda".

And the truth is, there is none. Al Anbar has no rights to claim a territory owned by another nation that existed before Al Anbar themselves. This is clearly an act of imperialism.

We also suggest Al Anbar to not make any unreasonable terms in a possible peace talk, although we commend Al Anbar for its desire of peace.

Again, Omzian Democratic Republic will only provide support if Golan Heights is attacked by Al Anbar first.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

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Very good aye

The Drakonian Imperium pledges it's support to it's ally Al Anbar and requests that all nations not let this excalate into war. The Imperium offers to host a meeting of all parties to help negotiate a peaceful agreement and compromise between the respective parties. We hope this can be solved peacefully, but if it cannot we will aid our ally. We ask that all parties take up this offer or the offer of the Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions. The peoples of all nations involved should not be allowed to suffer needlessly.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

The Republic of Al Anbar agrees to your proposal to settle this dispute peacefully. Now that we have agreed to peacefully settle this, we'll see if the Zionists are truely wishing a peaceful solution to this problem or does want war.

The Republic of Al Anbar agrees to your proposal to settle this dispute peacefully. Now that we have agreed to peacefully settle this, we'll see if the Zionists are truely wishing a peaceful solution to this problem or does want war.

Be sure that the continuance of calling Western Asia, "Zionists", will not earn you a good image in the peace talks.

As a sign of good will, we will also request to be an observer or a secondary negotiator.

Omzian Diplomatic Corps

And let me add Al-Anbar, If you conduct any act of aggression against Western Asia, Gradenk would not sit still.

We commend you at the moment for choosing the right choice. Peaceful measures are always acceptable.

Empire of Gradenk.

Ell will also be sending a team of delegates to observe the peace talks, as we believe a war in the region will cause enormous loss of life and destablise the world. (OOC: And hurt my oil supply).

Al Anbar will accept no talks that are attended by by outside diplomats. We will only agree to talks that are between the Zionist entity and Al Anbar. No other parties maybe privy to the talks.

We request that Western Asia not give into the demands of the dimwits in Iraq who can't find the reverse gear on their T-72's.

Al Anbar will accept no talks that are attended by by outside diplomats. We will only agree to talks that are between the Zionist entity and Al Anbar. No other parties maybe privy to the talks.
We will consider.

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Ahh...the beutiful Iraqi country side:
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A Message for the Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions

While we will happily participate in talks to discuss the claims of Al Anbar to our territories, we will not cow-tow to a nation that threatens us with assault.

Let it be known, and we ask for your support on this matter, if the government of Al Anbar wages war against us to seize our lands then they alone bear the responsibility for being the agressors.

Any more than you can blame Poland for the agression of Nazi Germany, let it be known that a nation may not seize the sovereign territory of another nation through force or coercion.

We are already in waiting of a formal apology from the Al Anbar government for both the insults and threats of violence and for the ordered violence against our nation. We also await symbolic reparations for the damages done by the violence that they ordered upon our border station.

We will discuss the issue, but there is little to negotiate other than Al Anbar's cessation of threats and violence against the sovereign nation and peoples of Western Asia.

Iranian spies have gotten photos of Al-Anbar's newest tank!
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Okay, Eye Ran, that's it. Cease flaming or I will call the mods. And BTW, you're ignored in the ICworld.

Okay, Eye Ran, that's it. Cease flaming or I will call the mods. And BTW, you're ignored in the ICworld.
Can't ignore me for OOC reasons, pussbaby. And it's called PROPAGANDA you genius.

OOC: Please cut out the flame-baiting...as funny as some of the pictures may be.

Just for kicks: http://www.pradera-castle.prv.pl/war.html


WA Might:*9922.5
AA Might:****229.944

And Al Anbar, you can't ignore Eye Ran for RPing properly in the other RP. Same with Roania. Both of those Ignores were improperly done and the problems were not irreconcilable.

OOC: How did you get the numbers?

WA Might:*9922.5
AA Might:****229.944
Add mine(4290.936) to that.

OOC: In the link.

Eye Ran, try adding up the might of the nations supporting me and the nations with Al Anbar....it's all just a side point. Back to the RP.

What's a full list of your allies?

My power is around 4111. I would have nuked AA by now, but that would throw radiation into WA and Iran.


Anyway my Parachute Corps is finished mobilising and is ready to go on a moments notice.(of course AA would not know this)

The government of Ell believes there is still a chance for diplomacy, and war need not break out. Ell is willing to deploy a peacekeeping force to the region if asked.

Might: 6018.75

OOC: Might: about 4773

13041.6

Match, set, point.

OOC: What's a full list of your allies?

In the end, the allies in listing will not matter. Aside from that fact, I have yet to call in the Zion Pact (Celack, The Eastern Bloc, Ur an Ass, Teritora, and Angelus) or to call on any of my major allies that are not here.

As of now, the number-crunching should stop and the RP continue.

The Drakonian Imperium has made a grave error by allowing Al Anbar, currently involved in wars, to join his alliance-group.

Terms

1) Al Anbar wishes that the Zionist entity withdraw all military units from the Golan Heights. A peacekeeping force made up of Iraqis and Zionist entity soldiers. The governance of the heights will be made jointly governed.
2) Withdrawal of all military units from within ten kilometers from the border with Golan Heights on both sides.
3) Payment of damages to Zionist border outpost caused a few months back.

The Drakonian Imperium has made a grave error by allowing Al Anbar, currently involved in wars, to join his alliance-group.
The sure have...

Should talks fail:

Recon flights over AA's northern border by RF-38's will be commencing. They will be relaying co-ords of SAM sites and major military installations back to HQ, which will then wire them to the RRN which is in the Black Sea and they will be entered into the targeting computers.

Terms

1) Al Anbar wishes that the Zionist entity withdraw all military units from the Golan Heights. A peacekeeping force made up of Iraqis and Zionist entity soldiers. The governance of the heights will be made jointly governed.
2) Withdrawal of all military units from within ten kilometers from the border with Golan Heights on both sides.

"Bullcrap."

Cannot the Al Anbar diplomatic ministries come up with some reasonable terms? This is clearly bullcrap.

We still would like to inform the Al ANbar government that Golan Heights is Western Asian territory before the government of Al Anbar existed. Golan Heights is Western Asian territory, and it will be.

We urge Al Anbar to back down from its imperalistic desires.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

Terms

1) Al Anbar wishes that the Zionist entity withdraw all military units from the Golan Heights. A peacekeeping force made up of Iraqis and Zionist entity soldiers. The governance of the heights will be made jointly governed.
2) Withdrawal of all military units from within ten kilometers from the border with Golan Heights on both sides.
3) Payment of damages to Zionist border outpost caused a few months back.

WA Terms
1) Al Anbar will cease all threats, current and future, against its neighbors and against countries removed from its borders.

2) Al Anbar will return all stolen property and persons to nations and will pay reparations to those countries.

3) Al Anbar will honor agreements made previously and following concerning other nations.

4) Western Asia will not destroy the outpost.

5) Western Asia will not support unwarranted invasions of Al Anbar.

6) Western Asia will not crush Al Anbar.

7) Al Anbar will repay Western Asia for damages done and will make statements of apology for belligerency and threats.

8 ) Al Anbar will cease the build-up of military forces near the border of Western Asia and will dismantle fortifications.

9) Western Asian territory will not be surrendered, neither shall any Al Anbari territory be surrendered.

10) Al Anbar will not support or allow terrorist actions against Western Asia nor will Western Asia support or allow terrorist actions against Al Anbar.

11) Al Anbar will not procure or seek to procure nuclear or other "Weapons of Mass Destruction" nor will it seek means to distribute such weapons against Western Asia or other nations.

12) Western Asia will seek to ensure the release of Al Anbar POWs taken by nations friendly to Western Asia and Al Anbar will release any POWs from those previous conflicts.

OOC: Gotta go. ER volunteering is calling me to duty. BB in a few.

Retracted

We advise Al-Anbar to accept WA's terms. They are as fair as they will get, and they will allow Al-Anbar to remain a sovreign state.

It is apparent that the reported allies of Western Asia have no honor or respect for the other nations that inhabit the world around them. NYNJ's blanant disregard of other religious beliefs, the Free Rumania's statement that it would simply nuke Al Anbar, and the open statements by all that they would destroy Al Anbar if it come to open war. These nations clearly have no care for the civilian lives that would be lost.
While we do agree, we would like to note that a majority of Western Asia's allies are peaceful nations, like us, who are trying to find a way of peace.

But, it does not matter us. If Al Anbar is nuked, or if the citizens of Al Anbar are held with discrimination... that's another story.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

(ooc: I can't nuke AA because bieng the n00b he is, he ignores everything that will harm him, that includes WMD's, Iran, and big nations)

It is apparent that the reported allies of Western Asia have no honor or respect for the other nations that inhabit the world around them. NYNJ's blanant disregard of other religious beliefs, the Free Rumania's statement that it would simply nuke Al Anbar, and the open statements by all that they would destroy Al Anbar if it come to open war. These nations clearly have no care for the civilian lives that would be lost.

Ecuse me, while others may have made threats all we said was we were allies off Western Asia. Do not insult our honor.

King Alern

Retracted

I still fail to see why WA needs to compromise AT ALL. He has been more than fair and has been very patient.

After a full review, of Al Anbar, the Drakonian Imperium, acting with it's authority as member of the United Emirates Leadership Council has expulsed Al Anbar from the United Emirates alliance. The reason stated are as follows: Oppession of Civilian Population
Violating the Rules, Al Anbar by joining agreed to follow, of the United Emirates
Support of Terrorism
Government use of Genocide
Government use of Racism
Government use of SlaveryThe Drakonian Imperium retracts all statements it has made in support of Al Anbar. The Imperial Drakonian Military will now be direct to a United Emirates only invasion of the oppressive regime, using their rights in the Proposed Charter of the United Emirates alliance. It is requests that no nations involved with this Incident become part of that following liberation.

However, the statements made about the "nuking" of civilians and the blanant disrespect for the religions of others are still considered abhorent and dishonorable.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

We commend the actions by Drakonian Imperium, to expell a dictatorship from this peaceful alliance.

We are happy that other Arab nations finally see the light.

We applaud the Drakonian Imperium for their actions in expelling Al Anbar from United Emirates Alliance. Just because a nation is part of a group does not automatically mean it will adhere to the principles of that group.

Preparations are already underway in New Pegasii City in the event of the talks coming to pass, including setting up a security perimeter to ensure the safety of all attendees. Unfortunately, as allies on both sides of this dispute are already involved, we would prefer that representatives of all involved nations attend, rather than just the delegations from Western Asia and Al Anbar.

Personally, we see no reason for Western Asia to cow-tow to Al Anbar either, as the contested land has been under Western Asian control since long before the government of Al Anbar came to be. But that is neither here nor there. Our primary concern right now is the hopefully peaceful resolution to this dispute.

The loudest noises come from the emptiest places.

http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/CGgoods/tsume5.JPG
~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs
~Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions

However, the statements made about the "nuking" of civilians and the blanant disrespect for the religions of others are still considered abhorent and dishonorable.
Consider them however you will.

Liberation has begun a low-key effort to intercept and destroy extreamist propaganda material arriving in the nation from Al Anbar.
As much of it enters through lawless North Andaman, however, and since the primarily white Christian government does not want to alienate the huge Muslim population, success has been limited.

Again torn between different alliegences, Liberation offers to its old friends in Drakonia ISAN men, material, and capital towards a post-war policing of the sure-to-be-defeated Al Anbar.

(Of course President Brown makes it known to his opposite in Drakonia that he should like to join the invasion itself, but that he can not yet risk the backlash from his Muslim electorate. )

As of now there is no reason for diplomatic talks to even commence. Shortly, the Imperium will be commencing operations to liberate the oppressed population of Al Anbar from the dictatorial rule. This will render diplomatic talks with the government of Al Anbar impossible as that government will no longer exist in it's current form.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

If Golan Heights, at any time, is attacked, we will commerce OPERATION ANBAR RELEASE, to start off with a naval battlegroup.

Air wars and ground war may also happen between Al Anbar units and Omzian units.

If that is the case, we wish the Imperium the best of luck in this endeavor. We are obviously hesitant to send military force to assist since we had already made it fairly clear we didn't want to stomp Al Anbar flat, however we are ready and willing to fly in humanitarian aid for the oppressed people in Al Anbar.

We also have data from our high altitude Tsubasa recon drone aircraft we are willing to share with those preparing to move against the current Al Anbar regime.

Best of luck, may the religious figure of your choice smile upon your efforts.

http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/CGgoods/tsume5.JPG
~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs
~Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions

The Esamopian Premier sat down as he was briefed by his Cabinet on the situation between, inter alia, the nations of Western Asia and Al Anbar. He was thinking about intervention, but immediately saw that he did not know which side to support, and knew that he could not commit troops to a situation that was not clear cut.

"Aha... I've got it! Esamopia will serve as an arbitor... we can have an international "court" or arbitration, which will take evidence from the potential belligerents and render a final ruling... we can even invite other competent and interested nations. At the end, we will all enforce the ruling!"

"Brilliant, Mr. Premier" said the Minister of Justice.

"Yes, thank you, except I will be representing Esamopia."

"Oh... alright then." The Minister of Justice was a bit upset, but hopeful for world peace.

"FM, send this out:"

The Foreign Minister then sent the following message to all nations involved in the incident:

"We invite all nations to settle this problem peacefully, we invite any nation that wishes to send a representative to this international court or arbitration negotiation and hope that the potential belligerents also agree to our jurisdiction. Although the findings will not be binding, they will provide an open forum for the potential disolving of this conflict, and may be used as a legitimate justification by side-line nations to declare their involvement.

Respectfully,
The Foreign Minister of Esamopia.
Seal of Esamopia.

WA Terms
1) Al Anbar will cease all threats, current and future, against its neighbors and against countries removed from its borders.

2) Al Anbar will return all persons to their nations.

3) Al Anbar will honor agreements made previously and following concerning other nations.

4) Western Asia will not destroy the outpost.

5) Western Asia will not support unwarranted invasions of Al Anbar.

6) Western Asia will not crush Al Anbar.

7) Al Anbar will repay Western Asia for damages done.

8) Western Asian territory will not be surrendered, neither shall any Al Anbari territory be surrendered.

9) Al Anbar will not support or allow terrorist actions against Western Asia nor will Western Asia support or allow terrorist actions against Al Anbar.

10) Western Asia will seek to ensure the release of Al Anbar POWs taken by nations friendly to Western Asia and Al Anbar will release any POWs from those previous conflicts.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.

WA Terms
1) Al Anbar will cease all threats, current and future, against its neighbors and against countries removed from its borders.

2) Al Anbar will return all persons to their nations.

3) Al Anbar will honor agreements made previously and following concerning other nations.

4) Western Asia will not destroy the outpost.

5) Western Asia will not support unwarranted invasions of Al Anbar.

6) Western Asia will not crush Al Anbar.

7) Al Anbar will repay Western Asia for damages done.

8) Western Asian territory will not be surrendered, neither shall any Al Anbari territory be surrendered.

9) Al Anbar will not support or allow terrorist actions against Western Asia nor will Western Asia support or allow terrorist actions against Al Anbar.

10) Western Asia will seek to ensure the release of Al Anbar POWs taken by nations friendly to Western Asia and Al Anbar will release any POWs from those previous conflicts.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.

Brilliant! I guess that some sort of arbitration or an international court is no longer necessary... Tell me if it will be useful, but otherwise peace to you all!

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.
We applaud Al Anbar for its brilliant decision into making peace in the region.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.
We applaud Al Anbar for its brilliant decision into making peace in the region.
The UE is going to own him.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.
We applaud Al Anbar for its brilliant decision into making peace in the region.
WTF are you talking about? TDE and the UE are going to own him.

"Get your international court... right here, get it while it lasts!" - In bad salesman tone of voice.

OOC: Just once I'd like some diplomacy or an actual meaningful argument to be made before someone speaks about "owning" a country... please... if you have a conflict, settle it like this!

It's a fact; baring some miracle the UE is going to own AA. Severly.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.
We applaud Al Anbar for its brilliant decision into making peace in the region.
The UE is going to own him.
Yes, but that's not our business now: Al Anbar is putting themselves in a deathhole.

OOC: Back from the ER. Interesting night.

IC:WA Terms
1) Al Anbar will cease all threats, current and future, against its neighbors and against countries removed from its borders.

2) Al Anbar will return all persons to their nations.

3) Al Anbar will honor agreements made previously and following concerning other nations.

4) Western Asia will not destroy the outpost.

5) Western Asia will not support unwarranted invasions of Al Anbar.

6) Western Asia will not crush Al Anbar.

7) Al Anbar will repay Western Asia for damages done.

8) Western Asian territory will not be surrendered, neither shall any Al Anbari territory be surrendered.

9) Al Anbar will not support or allow terrorist actions against Western Asia nor will Western Asia support or allow terrorist actions against Al Anbar.

10) Western Asia will seek to ensure the release of Al Anbar POWs taken by nations friendly to Western Asia and Al Anbar will release any POWs from those previous conflicts.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.

The Government of Western Asia is very pleased to see this development and will agree whole-heartedly to this modified list of terms.

We would also like to issue a statement asking the UE to avoid the pursuit of needless conflict in this matter. In light of this, humanitarian and relief aid will be given free passage over Western Asian territories but military overflights for any reason will not be tolerated. Neither will WA waters or land serve as a staging ground for actions by the UE against AA so long as the agreement made stands.

We would like to thank The Eternal Shogunate Reploid Productions for its (her) guidance and arbitration and our allies and friends for their continued support.

Salam. Shalom. Peace.

(OOC) Well we're still allied with Al Anbar, and our might comes out at 8775
Fasta Benj is also technically allied and their might comes out at 7400.88

So if you do go to war with Al Anbar you will find it a significantly bigger war than you may have thought.

Also Rumania - 'I nukez j00' is not regarded as good RP.

*To the Government of Al Anbar*
May we recommend the establishment of a permanent Dyelli Beybian military base in your country in order to prevent agressive action from any of the variety of powers seeking to overrun your country? Several of the Military Orders operating inside Dyelli Beybi are interested in setting up chapterhouses in Al Anbar, due to its proximity to the Holy Land. They have asked that their request be relayed and also offer the use of numerous 'Church assets' (tanks, helicopter gunships etc) in the defence of Al Anbar should such chapterhouses be permitted.

*Generally to everyone*
The Holy Empire of Southern Klatchia is glad a diplomatic solution could be found.

OOC: Dyelli, you have a telegram.

IC:

To Dyelli Beybi

The Government of Al Anbar, in view of the many Zionist and Zionist-supporting countries in close proximity to Al Anbar, will agree to both chapterhouses and Dyelli Beybi military bases.

The Dyelli Beybi military base may be setup in any part of Al Anbar, while the chapterhouses will be confined to the subregion of Syria.

Signed,

Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan

Also Rumania - 'I nukez j00' is not regarded as good RP.
I don't care, it's quick, cheap, and doesn't waste any Romanian lives.

We are happy that other Arab nations finally see the light.

The Imperium is not Arab. The Drakonian Imperium is a multinational nation made up mainly of Causasian and Carribean bloodlines, but there are also many other nationalities represented throughout the Imperium. As it is likely, this mistake was made by the name of the UE alliance. Emirate, in the name simply refers to Kingdom and is more made to represent the type of imperial governments that mainly make up and created the alliance. We are sure this mistake was not intentional and just wanted to clarify it to the international community.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

We are happy that other Arab nations finally see the light.

The Imperium is not Arab. The Drakonian Imperium is a multinational nation made up mainly of Causasian and Carribean bloodlines, but there are also many other nationalities represented throughout the Imperium. As it is likely, this mistake was made by the name of the UE alliance. Emirate, in the name simply refers to Kingdom and is more made to represent the type of imperial governments that mainly make up and created the alliance. We are sure this mistake was not intentional and just wanted to clarify it to the international community.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
We are sorry for our mistnderstanding.

However, we wish the UE good luck into crushing Al Anbar full speed ahead.

However, we wish the UE good luck into crushing Al Anbar full speed ahead.

Omz222, we thank you.

The Immortal Shogunate, all Drakonian forces sent to carry out the liberation of those oppressed under the murderous rule of Saddam Hussien and the current government of Al Anbar have been informed of your government commitment to send humanitarian aid and will take great cares to protect those humanitarian workers your governments sends. The Imperium will also be sending great deals of humanitarian aid to the peoples of Al Anbar.

Dyelli Beybi, we are deeply sorry that an honorable nation such as your will be supporting the corrupt and oppressive regime of Al Anbar, but as it appears there is no way for this to change we hope that this conflict will not end with too many of your brave soldiers having fallen.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

OOC: For those who are interested in watching the proceedings, the liberation will happen, Here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82837).

The 'Poor Knights of the Temple of Solomon' as well as the 'Order of the Hospital of Saint John' are organising transportation of their own accord. We estimate the arrival of the 13th Armour and 5th Foot Divisions via Sea sometime soon, the 4rth Airborne Division is also at your disposal should it be required. This will be followed by the Engineering Division and the 1st Line Division to help stabilise defences. The remainder of Dyelli Beybian Fleet shipping (that not already off the Coast of Al Anbar) is being diverted to guard shipping routes.