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Hello. Vladivostok Russia, located in the far East of Russia, along to Pacific Coast, is now a self governing body. Our plan is to return at least the Far East of Siberia back to greatness... Although, come to think of it, Siberia was never great. So we'll just make is great, period! We're anti-socialist, and feel they did make Russia great for a while, but then led to it's current Economic destruction, and strife.

So if you're anti-soveit, want to return Russia to greatness, or just plain like me, Telegram me!

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Vladivostok Russia - Lord of The East (In Russian)
Return Mother Russia to it's former Glory!

We wish you luck in your quest to refute the socialist lie!

We congratulate this new nation on its inauguration and encourage its people's embracement of political freedom, civil liberty, and capitalism. The Federation stands ready to aid Vladivostok Russia in its endeavors.

FOR THE MOTHERLAND!

The Federation and Transdynamics Consortium wish to give the newly free people of Vladivostok Russia a gift representing their new-found liberties. Two Ultraliners, painted in the Vladivostok national colors, will be provided -free of charge- to your government. One will be the VIP passenger variant and the second is a cargo carrier.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81646

We welcome Vladivostok Russia to the world of free nations. The Republic of Tradewinds wishes the best of luck to the governing body and all the citizens whom live within.

Oh dear, my, RF won't be pleased. Neither will I.

Russia was great under the Tsar, eh?

:?

Privet!

Esli ponimaesh - to privetstviya ot Russkoy Mafii v Geneve, Shveitsarya, IRL.

If you didn't understand, than I have nothing to add.

Hah! Ve laugh at your capitalist pig dog claims, and spit in your face! :wink:

Ve in the Republic of Noviykrazniystan, a newly liberated state of the USSR, know dat the might of soviet power will crush petty nationalist insurgents such as yourself!

Onwards to Victory! Onwards to Socialism!

(We are sorry but as yet our claims remain hollow :wink: )

Tsarist!

We are most displeased about this situation.

Galdania is communist, yet has a better economy than many other capitalist nations. And yet we still manage to have a better standard quality of life than many capitalist nations.

I am no Tsarist! How does being a democratic Russian Nation make me a Tsarist!? And I'm not Capitalist either, just democratic! Geez, you Socialistic nations just wave accusations at any non-Soviet Russian nation, don't you? There is nothing about my nation, or in this introduction, that could make you believe I'm a Tsarist or a Capitalist! I'm just not Socialistic, so you instantly accuse me of being Socialisms worse enemies.

And now for the great Democratic nations, which were nice, unlike those Militaristic corrupted... Anyway, thank you for your support! It is nice to see some people who like to see a democratic Russian Nation!

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Vladivostok - Lord of The East (In Russian)
Return Mother Russia to it's Former Glory!

But, you see, you say 'Return Mother Russia To It's Former Glory'.

What former glory, if you do not speak of the Soviet era?

But, you see, you say 'Return Mother Russia To It's Former Glory'.

What former glory, if you do not speak of the Soviet era?

To the Knyaz era, dumb-dumb :twisted:

The era during which Russian knyaz raided Constantinopole, got lots of gold and went back unhindered :wink:

We socialists welcome peacefull co-existence, but we do not support nationalism in the form of creating "Russian glory" over that of the workingman's international struggle, nor do we welcome bourgeoise democracy over proletariat democracy.

Therefore it is safe for us to say we do not support such a nation, but we do not support war between its people and ours, only class war, and the continuing struggle of the proletariat in your nation.

We socialists welcome peacefull co-existence, but we do not support nationalism in the form of creating "Russian glory" over that of the workingman's international struggle, nor do we welcome bourgeoise democracy over proletariat democracy.

Therefore it is safe for us to say we do not support such a nation, but we do not support war between its people and ours, only class war, and the continuing struggle of the proletariat in your nation.

We agree entirely with our ally Noviykrazniystan.

Just return Russia to glory, period. In anyway possible. Soviet Russia was glorius, but it was no more then a corrupted militaristic regime, which was doomed to failure since Stalin. Lenin was fine, and had great ideals, which could have made Russia great for many centuries. But Stalin completely corrupted Soviet Russia, and I feel shaped the Soviet Russia which lead to Russia's current destruction and strife.

I notice now I said I was anti-socialist, I meant to say anti-soviet. Some Socialist nations are okay... As long as they're not Soviet...

And I can garrentee, if any war were to come between Vladivostok, and any Soviet/Socialist nation, Vladivostok would not be the one instigating it...

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Vladivostok - Lord of The East (In Russian)
Return Mother Russia to it's Former Glory!

'Any way possible?'
Are you saying that Vladivostok would consider genocide and slaughter to 'return Russia to greatness'?

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No... I meant it in the sense of "We'll use any method of government or economic system" What do you think this nation is, the reincarnation of Nazi Germany?

We have no problem with socialist nations that do not preach that they shall 'benifit society' on out-dated concepts. Or those that impose their will on others. We hope to have peaceful relations with you, and offer any help that you may need. Or perchance a home region to protect yourself in?

And perchance could you explain your ecconomic/social theory that your government applies?

OOC: Nothing wrong with a Glorius Russia, as long as it doesn't decide that the Baltic states and Poland should be part of it....

Socialism saved Galdania from Russian and French imperialism during the early part of the twentieth century...Without communism, Galdania would have succumbed to German invasion in WWI, and if not then, certainly during the German Blitzkrieg of WWII.

Free Economy: We're not going to ban any business, unless it actually starts to consume the government. Government and Business must stay separate, or we're only going to become corrupted. The debate in the US over Church and State should be discarded, it's Corporations and State they should be worried about!

The Government should not intrude too much on people's lives. Although we should look out for them, it's their lives to live, and we wont butt in. Social and Political Freedoms are very important, as long as they don't undermine the Government. If someone preaches Anarchism, they'd be arrested. Extreme political views, such as Nazism would also be banned. We would allow Soviet Theories in the country, as they don't undermine our system, and Russia was formerly Soviet, and some Russians still believe in that system... We might even allow a Soviet Political party, if support in the nation for them becomes overwhelming... :?

We have free and open elections, every 2 4 and 6 years (Depending on Government Office) It is illegal for any Corperation, or Political party to infuence a voter by Advertising, or Force. The only public appearences canidates are alloud to make are debates with the other canidates. Media is forced to be impartial, and express no views, negative or positive, towards any political party.

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Vladivostok - Lord of The East (In Russian)
Return Mother Russia to it's Former Glory!

Much like Galdania, in some ways...Except we make sure that corporations cannot control the government by making them illegal.

If you want to change my system, try to overthrow me in my Soviet-Mafia Plot RP! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82424)

(OOC) Question. Can elections be 'free and fair' when extremist political groups are outlawed?

Interesting question... I say yes, for if those ectremist groups were elected freely, then the country would never be free again... I do trust my citizens not to vote for extremists, but I ban them just incase the votes are bought, or something... Besides, allowing Nazis to be elected would just be a crime against all of humanity on any nation's part...

(OOC) But surely for a vote to be free people should be given the choice to vote for whom they chose? If one begins to limit people from voting for extremists 'for their own good' the next logical step is stopping them from voting for the oposition 'for their own good'.

Of course ICly in Dyelli Beybi you can vote for whoever you want...it just always gets counted as a vote for the Tzar no matter what you actually put on the form. (I'm based a tiny bit on pre-revolution Russia).

It sounds like you are Social Democrats, which is good. :)

Haaregradia uses some elements of the Soviet system, for example we have Soviets, worker's councils. Unlike the USSR they are free to elect whoever they want. Actually the Soviets are like state governments and their leaders sit on the Pan-Haaregradian Council.

I now have a map of the Democratic Republic of Vladivoktok Russian Territory:


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Each differnt colour is a differnt province/region within the country. We have not re-named any provinces since our independance. No cities are represented on this map. Names are of course in Russian.

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Vladivostok - Lord of The East (In Russian)
Return Mother Russia to it's Former Glory!