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Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 1,131st in the world for Healthiest Nations. Which isn't bad when you consider that we are not as economically developed as some other nations.

slavery is wrong, you don't have slaves do you?

* Plays the tune of the anti-slavery brigade *

Here we go...


Personally I find that having everyone in the military at one point in their lives can do more good for health... and beleive me when I say that owning slaves is not good for your health in the long term... unless you have a huge nation, then you can do what you like.

Personally, I don't care, it's your nation, do what you like.

Rechevia is appalled by the concept of slavery, a compulsory military service for that matter.

slavery is wrong, you don't have slaves do you?

Allowing your citizens to be sick and to die young is wrong.

Jitano is ranked 5th in the region and 62,351st in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Personally, I don't care, it's your nation, do what you like.

Thanks.

Free Iuthia is ranked 21,515th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Rechevia is appalled by the concept of slavery, a compulsory military service for that matter.

But apparently Rechevia finds scoffing at the poor and sick perfectly acceptable.

Rechevia is ranked 330th in the region and 39,984th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

We are personally opposed to slavery, but we understand the vital role it plays in many nations. As long as you use some measure of discretion and humanity regarding your slaves, we have no objections.

Thanks.

Free Iuthia is ranked 21,515th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Look at Iuthia, that was the nation I was talking about (this is my other one created for a RP split in Iuthia, I'm using it becuase of my other one is locking me out for a while...)

Even then they aren't too high, but I feel that not having slaves makes you last longer, seeing as alot of nations abhor slavery.

I don't support you what so ever, in fact I condemn you, I just ain't going to do anything about it.

We are personally opposed to slavery

And yet your personal income tax rate is 100%.

Rechevia is appalled by the concept of slavery, a compulsory military service for that matter.

Don't you mean "or"... sigh... look at Iuthia's background (linked at the bottom of this page). Hm... may I also point out that Iuthia is the 450th most happy nation in the world. It just so happens that Iuthia's complusory military is cultural and is also a means of becoming a man

(you stay teenage in the laws eye until you fulfil your two years term).

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
More information about Iuthia.... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41124&highlight=)
Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531)
Urbanites Region (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

Rechevia is appalled by the concept of slavery, a compulsory military service for that matter.

But apparently Rechevia finds scoffing at the poor and sick perfectly acceptable.

Rechevia is ranked 330th in the region and 39,984th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Please actually read the Rechevian page, it details that the government is very socially minded, we are a Liberal Democratic Socialism, unfortunatly current low funds make it difficult to allocate sufficient resources to each area of society. However education and health always take priority.

Thanks.

Free Iuthia is ranked 21,515th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Look at Iuthia, that was the nation I was talking about (this is my other one created for a RP split in Iuthia, I'm using it becuase of my other one is locking me out for a while...)

Iuthia is ranked 13th in the region and 6,124th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

My people are still healthier.

Even then they aren't too high, but I feel that not having slaves makes you last longer, seeing as alot of nations abhor slavery.

I understand. We have suffered terribly from attacks by immoral licentious societies. Nevertheless, we feel order and discipline are best in the long run.

May all peoples come to realize the bliss of serving the Goddess Mauni.

Please actually read the Rechevian page, it details that the government is very socially minded, we are a Liberal Democratic Socialism, unfortunatly current low funds make it difficult to allocate sufficient resources to each area of society. However education and health always take priority.

We can supply you with financial aid and medical assistance in return for free access to your markets.

Please. The Healthiest Nation thing is simply how much you spend on healthcare. (OOC Note to self: dismiss compulsory organ donation, let people pay to donate organs as usual. Still need to lower taxes... :x )

Besides, where's the connection between healthcare and slavery?

(Remembers how Syskeyia fought in Amerigo...)

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Slavery is evil. :evil:
Allowing your citizens to be sick and to die young is wrong.I let them, but the people are nice enough to donate to charities so they don't. 8) We have nice people here in Nianacio. :) Unlike the guys in charge of the UN. :x They hate me and try to ruin my tourism industry by trying to convince the world Nianacio is a horrible place to live. :cry:

Please. The Healthiest Nation thing is simply how much you spend on healthcare.


What the UN rankings say is "A measure of the general health of an average citizen in each nation."

Besides, where's the connection between healthcare and slavery?

Perhaps a more relevant question for your citizens: where is the link between your so-called freedom and your health?


EDIT: Syskeyia is ranked 21st in the region and 71,264th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

What the UN rankings say is "A measure of the general health of an average citizen in each nation."The UN is run by conservative-hating liberals who lie at any time if they think it will support their politics.

Slavery is evil. :evil:

Why would you say such a thing?

BTW: Nianacio is ranked 87th in the region and 70,167th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Why would you say such a thing?Oh, I don't know...perhaps because it is true?
BTW: Nianacio is ranked 87th in the region and 70,167th in the world for Healthiest Nations.See? UN propoganda! Nianacio has one of the strongest economies in the world and the people can afford their own healthcare.

We r against slavery, stop or die simple as. Nar only joking can't be bothered to go to war yet... just stop slavery :D

The UN is run by conservative-hating liberals who lie at any time if they think it will support their politics.

OOC: The rankings are generated by the game server.

OOC: The rankings are generated by the game server.OOC: That comment was IC...Anyway, the game is seriously messed up and I ignore most official game comments.

Why would you say such a thing?Oh, I don't know...perhaps because it is true?

Ah! An attempt at proof by repeated assertion. You need to think through your position.

Freedom means doing whatever you want when you want it regardless of what anyone else thinks or desires. Feeling like taking dope? Libertarians say go right ahead. Want to be selfish? Libertarians say that is a virtue.

Why are your people suffering? Because no one in your society cares about the less fortunate. All they care about is "Me! Me! Me!" only by serving the one true deity can people become moral.

The website doesnt know that you keep slaves, does it? If it knew, you would probably be amongst the bottom nations too.

Ah! An attempt at proof by repeated assertion. You need to think through your position.You did not ask for proof; you asked for a reason.
Freedom means doing whatever you want when you want it regardless of what anyone else thinks or desires.No, freedom does not mean you're doing anything.
Feeling like taking dope? Libertarians say go right ahead.No, we don't. *We don't want you to, but we won't force you not to.
Want to be selfish? Libertarians say that is a virtue.No, we most certainly do not!
Why are your people suffering?They are not suffering. They are quite happy. 8)
Because no one in your society cares about the less fortunate.So why do our charities receive so many donations?
only by serving the one true deity can people become moral.They already do. 8)

*This statement usually applies in Nianacio. I can not guarantee its accuracy in other parts of the world.

The website doesnt know that you keep slaves, does it? If it knew, you would probably be amongst the bottom nations too.

OOC: When I run my "slave nation" I always pick the options on the issues that are in-character for that nation. Likewise for my capitalist freedom-loving nations or my European-style socialist nations etc. etc.

The website doesnt know that you keep slaves, does it? If it knew, you would probably be amongst the bottom nations too.

OOC: When I run my "slave nation" I always pick the options on the issues that are in-character for that nation. Likewise for my capitalist freedom-loving nations or my European-style socialist nations etc. etc.OOC: There are no issues about slavery, so the game doesn't know you have any...

Why are your people suffering?They are not suffering. They are quite happy. 8)

Nianacio is ranked 87th in the region and 70,167th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Nianacio is ranked 87th in the region and 70,167th in the world for Healthiest Nations.Um...I'll repeat myself, too, I guess...
See? UN propoganda! Nianacio has one of the strongest economies in the world and the people can afford their own healthcare.

Nianacio is ranked 87th in the region and 70,167th in the world for Healthiest Nations.Um...I'll repeat myself, too, I guess...
See? UN propoganda! Nianacio has one of the strongest economies in the world and the people can afford their own healthcare.

Your people can also afford to eat fatty snacks and sweets while stitting in front of a TV all day long.

OOC: Maybe your nation's population is a lie too. :roll:

slavery is wrong, you don't have slaves do you?NO I DO'NT!

The website doesnt know that you keep slaves, does it? If it knew, you would probably be amongst the bottom nations too.

OOC: When I run my "slave nation" I always pick the options on the issues that are in-character for that nation. Likewise for my capitalist freedom-loving nations or my European-style socialist nations etc. etc.OOC: There are no issues about slavery, so the game doesn't know you have any...

Barcoding the population for security? Gun ownership? Death Penalty? 100% tax rate?

OOC: None of the player submitted issues which I have contributed have ever shown up. If at some future point I do see issues on slavery, I will respond to them the best I am able to or I will change the way the country is role-played. But keep in mind that slavery in my society is nothing like the Anglo-American race based slavery you learn about in school.

"Only the lazy and the cowards use slaves"

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Your people can also afford to eat fatty snacks and sweets while stitting in front of a TV all day long.Yes, but baseball is more fun. 8)

"Only the lazy and the cowards use slaves"

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Aelosia is ranked 1st in the region and 5,426th in the world for Healthiest Nations. The average income tax rate is 100%. Private enterprise is illegal.

Isn't a person who labors for no monetary gain basically a slave?

Your people can also afford to eat fatty snacks and sweets while stitting in front of a TV all day long.Yes, but baseball is more fun. 8)

I doubt your people achieved a 70,167th in the world health ranking by playing a lot of baseball.

Realisticly if the UN did conduct a Health investigation on your country, my guess is that the health report will be on the rich? You wouldn't want to show the UN you have slaves because in the UN its illegal. But its proably stating that the rich has great health care, but not the slaves.

Realisticly if the UN did conduct a Health investigation on your country, my guess is that the health report will be on the rich? You wouldn't want to show the UN you have slaves because in the UN its illegal. But its proably stating that the rich has great health care, but not the slaves.

There are no rich people. There is only the Goddess Mauni, Blessed Be She, and her slaves.

We are personally opposed to slaveryAnd yet your personal income tax rate is 100%.Actually, the rate is 50%, deducted automatically off the paychecks of our equal income population.
OOC: Xanthal is pure communist. All business is government run, and all income is equal. I've stated in the past that the 100% income tax rate is incorrect in an RP override in the NS forum.

Realisticly if the UN did conduct a Health investigation on your country, my guess is that the health report will be on the rich? You wouldn't want to show the UN you have slaves because in the UN its illegal. But its proably stating that the rich has great health care, but not the slaves.

There are no rich people. There is only the Goddess Mauni, Blessed Be She, and her slaves.

So i am guess your dictatorship or a communist?

We are personally opposed to slaveryAnd yet your personal income tax rate is 100%.Actually, the rate is 50%, deducted automatically off the paychecks of our equal income population.
OOC: Xanthal is pure communist. All business is government run, and all income is equal. I've stated in the past that the 100% income tax rate is incorrect in an RP override in the NS forum.

OOC: It isn't possible to get the kind of state you want by using the issues to vote yourself down to a 50% tax rate?

Realisticly if the UN did conduct a Health investigation on your country, my guess is that the health report will be on the rich? You wouldn't want to show the UN you have slaves because in the UN its illegal. But its proably stating that the rich has great health care, but not the slaves.

There are no rich people. There is only the Goddess Mauni, Blessed Be She, and her slaves.

So i am guess your dictatorship or a communist?

Those are foriegn secular concepts. We worship Mauni. We serve Mauni. She is the master of Life and Death. Her blue pterodactyls will take us to our positions in the next life: either to serve her eternally or to be tortured in Hell as heretics and sinners.

"Only the lazy and the cowards use slaves"

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Aelosia is ranked 1st in the region and 5,426th in the world for Healthiest Nations. The average income tax rate is 100%. Private enterprise is illegal.

Isn't a person who labors for no monetary gain basically a slave?

Yes and no, all the Aelosians receive a percentage of the taxes according to his job and status in society. That system was implemented to give the goverment total control about who earn money and how much. Private enterprise is illegal because all industries belong to the noble houses, who are also part of the goverment.

21st (of 23) in the region and 67,841st in the world

This is what happens when you don't pay the bill...

I doubt your people achieved a 70,167th in the world health ranking by playing a lot of baseball.We got that rating because the UN hates us. It has no base in fact.

I doubt your people achieved a 70,167th in the world health ranking by playing a lot of baseball.We got that rating because the UN hates us. It has no base in fact.

So let me make sure I understand the logic here.

1) The UN hates slavery.

2) Mauni is a slave society.

3) Therefore the UN takes a pretty dim view of Mauni.

4) The UN hates Nianacio

5) Yet you decided to sell your personal dignity and kiss the UN's flabby buttocks by denouncing my slave society?

Have you considered that the UN view of slavery may be as false as the UN view of your medical system? Have you considered that you and I may be natural allies?

Have you considered that the UN view of slavery may be as false as the UN view of your medical system?I happen to agree with the UN that slavery is bad.
Have you considered that you and I may be natural allies?No, not really.

Have you considered that you and I may be natural allies?No, not really.




:roll:

My nation gave up slavery in its early days. Each individual has a fair chance at life.

No human shall serve another, unless being paid...

My nation gave up slavery in its early days. Each individual has a fair chance at life.

No human shall serve another, unless being paid...

Or in prison

Imperialz is ranked 26,551st in the world for Healthiest Nations. The successful tend to enjoy an opulent (but moralistic) lifestyle, while the failures can be seen crowding out most jails.

The empire of FPC has abolished slavery since....ever.

However, those who commit crimes get to go to a labour camp where they work for nothing, work long shifts and generaly get a minimum sentence of 10 years. Oh, if they don't work or try to talk back at the guards, they get beaten or even killed.

My nation gave up slavery in its early days. Each individual has a fair chance at life.

No human shall serve another, unless being paid...

Or in prison

Imperialz is ranked 26,551st in the world for Healthiest Nations. The successful tend to enjoy an opulent (but moralistic) lifestyle, while the failures can be seen crowding out most jails.

What can i say? The UN rankings generlise.... greatly.....

The empire of FPC has abolished slavery since....ever.

However, those who commit crimes get to go to a labour camp where they work for nothing, work long shifts and generaly get a minimum sentence of 10 years. Oh, if they don't work or try to talk back at the guards, they get beaten or even killed.

FPC is ranked 1st in the region and 7,149th in the world for Healthiest Nations--and no education spending. Great. :roll:

OOC: It isn't possible to get the kind of state you want by using the issues to vote yourself down to a 50% tax rate?I don't know. All I know is that every time I made a decision taxes went up, so I finally just said screw it and overrode the description.

OOC: It isn't possible to get the kind of state you want by using the issues to vote yourself down to a 50% tax rate?I don't know. All I know is that every time I made a decision taxes went up, so I finally just said screw it and overrode the description.

OOC: I have this nation which pays 100% taxes and I have other nations that pay no income taxes and other nations in between. But political freedom tends to give me trouble. i wish i knew why.

Well, whatever. This thread isn't about taxes. We've made our statement, we'll bid you good day.

OOC: Right, for the good of everyone else, this is what is wrong with Mauni's nation.


Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 599 million are kept under strict control by the oppressive government (says it all...)

And refers to individual citizens as "human resources." (gasp!)

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins (corrupt? never!)

There is a slick and highly efficient black market in Gambling. (black market? naughty!)

And the government extracts trade concessions from poor nations in exchange for humanitarian aid. (evil, pure evil....)

Now we're all even.

Confused States is ranked 7th in the region and 33,125th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Doing real good in the world ranking :-)

OOC: Right, for the good of everyone else, this is what is wrong with Mauni's nation.


Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 599 million are kept under strict control by the oppressive government (says it all...)

And refers to individual citizens as "human resources." (gasp!)

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins (corrupt? never!)

There is a slick and highly efficient black market in Gambling. (black market? naughty!)

And the government extracts trade concessions from poor nations in exchange for humanitarian aid. (evil, pure evil....)

Now we're all even.

Not at all.

Most of the other nations that have come into this thread have come with the attitude "Be like us or we will attack" and I have merely been showing their lies and hypocrisy. We have never tried to ram our social system down your throats by brute force. We are not claiming that we are darlings of the UN. Yet when we show your shortcomings, most of you say "The UN reports don't count. They don't mean anything. The UN hates us and tells lies about us." Well, you can't have it both ways.

We have always openly and honestly admitted we were a slave society (i.e. "oppressive" in UN terms). Would that you jackals were half as honest. Corrupt by UN standards? Sure. We have a long history of making Mauni, Blessed Be She, live a comfortable life worthy of a God. And when the current Mauni dies, we usually install a relative as a new incarnation. "Human Resources"? Of course. That's what slavery is all about. But the point is that being a slave society gives us order and discipline and good health care and low violent crime. A "black market" in Gambling? All that means is that gambling is illegal (as is all private enterprise) and yet some people continue to break the law.

Nothing about our society is any more evil than any of your societies. So get off your high horses.

OOC: Right, for the good of everyone else, this is what is wrong with Mauni's nation.


Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 599 million are kept under strict control by the oppressive government (says it all...)

And refers to individual citizens as "human resources." (gasp!)

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins (corrupt? never!)

There is a slick and highly efficient black market in Gambling. (black market? naughty!)

And the government extracts trade concessions from poor nations in exchange for humanitarian aid. (evil, pure evil....)

Now we're all even.

Not at all.

Most of the other nations that have come into this thread have come with the attitude "Be like us or we will attack" and I have merely been showing their lies and hypocrisy. We have never tried to ram our social system down your throats by brute force. We are not claiming that we are darlings of the UN. Yet when we show your shortcomings, most of you say "The UN reports don't count. They don't mean anything. The UN hates us and tells lies about us." Well, you can't have it both ways.

We have always openly and honestly admitted we were a slave society (i.e. "oppressive" in UN terms). Would that you jackals were half as honest. Corrupt by UN standards? Sure. We have a long history of making Mauni, Blessed Be She, live a comfortable life worthy of a God. And when the current Mauni dies, we usually install a relative as a new incarnation. "Human Resources"? Of course. That's what slavery is all about. But the point is that being a slave society gives us order and discipline and good health care and low violent crime. A "black market" in Gambling? All that means is that gambling is illegal (as is all private enterprise) and yet some people continue to break the law.

Nothing about our society is any more evil than any of your societies. So get off your high horses.

Confused States is ranked 7th in the region and 33,125th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Doing real good in the world ranking :-)

Well, whatever. This thread isn't about taxes. We've made our statement, we'll bid you good day.

Since one definition of slavery is unpaid labor and someone with a 100% tax rate is seeing no dollars from his labor, I think your taxes are an issue.

I have no slaves and am seventy something thousandth in the world for health. I must stop spending so much on education, Automobile industry handouts and the Military and buy a few ampoules of penicillin for the rulers.

So get off your high horses.Actually, I'm on a llama. 8)

Since one definition of slavery is unpaid labor and someone with a 100% tax rate is seeing no dollars from his labor, I think your taxes are an issue.You are incorrect in your assesment. All money gained by the nation's citizens goes through the government, which allocates the necessary funds to run it's operations, then redistributes the remaining cash equally among the nation's citizens.

For today's lessons on the virtues of a slave society and the lying hyprocrisy of your so-called "free" societies, let's see whether the citizens have clean air and water or whether they are wallowing knee-deep in their own filth.

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 3,398th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

Calarca is ranked 1st in the region and 9,830th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

Iuthia is ranked 45th in the region and 20,332nd in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

Nianacio is ranked 27th in the region and 22,357th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

FPC is ranked 1st in the region and 24,209th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

Xanthal is ranked 1st in the region and 30,227th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

Free Iuthia is ranked 69th in the region and 66,727th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.

Imperialz is ranked 2nd in the region and 68,464th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments. (What a Hell-hole this continent must be! The second best nation for the environment in the region is one of the most polluted societies on the planet!)

So not only are we much better than the average nation on healthcare, our people also live in a beautiful and unspoilt nation--apart from the radioactive slag heaps left by the savages who attack us for no reason other than jealousy of our lifestyle.

Besides, where's the connection between healthcare and slavery?

I don't know precisely, but I happened across this message on the message board for the Exclusive Capitalizt Zone this morning:

The Republic of Ghettostan:
"haha, I'm 184 out of 188 for health. Supposedly freedom makes you less healthy. This is something disproven by the life expectancy of most westernized nations."

OOC: Ghettostan is not my puppet nor even someone I talk with often. So clearly others have seen the inverse relationship between freedom and health in the game.

*bump*

OOC: No comments on whether there is an inverse link in the game between health and freedom? No response on my offer of aid to smaller nations? No one willing to admit that their nations do have moral problems? Is the height of intellectual ability on Nation States really so low as "You say 'slave', me kill."

For today's lessons on the virtues of a slave society and the lying hyprocrisy of your so-called "free" societies, let's see whether the citizens have clean air and water or whether they are wallowing knee-deep in their own filth.This time the UN isn't even bothering to claim I have a bad environment. It's just stating the fact that I don't spend money on trying to make it perfect.
This may not always be reflected in the quality of that nation's environment, however.

For the record:

Mauni is ranked 2nd in the region and 72,922nd in the world for Largest Gambling Industries.

So a "slick and highly efficient black market in gambling" apparently isn't such a rampant problem at all.

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 65,603rd in the world for Most Politically Apathetic Citizens.


So the people don't appear to be chomping at the bit to be "free". Our people trust Mauni to make the right decisions for them.

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 65,603rd in the world for Most Politically Apathetic Citizens.


So the people don't appear to be chomping at the bit to be "free". Our people trust Mauni to make the right decisions for them.Being lower on the list means your people care MORE.

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 65,603rd in the world for Most Politically Apathetic Citizens.


So the people don't appear to be chomping at the bit to be "free". Our people trust Mauni to make the right decisions for them.Being lower on the list means your people care MORE.

So my people care for their leader more and apparently your people have no great love for their leaders.

No, they care about politics more. Just because someone cares about who is leading their nation, doesn’t mean they agree with who ever is in charge.

So my people care for their leader more and apparently your people have no great love for their leaders.Our nation is so good that they've come to take freedom for granted, apparently...

!Xauma :!: Your slavery appauls us. How do you justify your evil?

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Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
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!Xauma :!: Your slavery appauls us. How do you justify your evil?

According to the UN report for your nation: "The average income tax rate is 100%. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out."

So how is our system any worse than yours?

How can I justify our social system?

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 64,576th in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

Nianacio is ranked 6th in the region and 351st in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

Noitan Teppup is ranked 193rd in the region and 3,207th in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

Would you mind facing the issue at hand, and not relying on UN reports as your only defence? The fact of the matter is, you are trying to justify enslaving your people as a morally upright thing to do, but did it ever occure to you, that you have manditory healthcare, manditory education, ect. where as other nations, such as my own, have optional healthcare, opttional education, ect. You are forcing your people to be healthy, forcing them to be educated, but if they don't want to partake of our free clinics and education, why should we force them? And before you start railing on my country, do note, we are essentialy a massive military. Everyone is considered a member of the armed forces, though only 5% are designated combat duty, and only 1% are active at any given time. Most of everything is channeled through the military, we offer free health clinics, free education, free shelter, and free food. Our people do not require the ammenitys capitalist nations have, nor do they really want them. We have no welfare because we do not need it, everyone has a job, and everyone is provided for.

Have a nice day


*EDIT*

and because I feel like being especialy venomous,

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 64,576th in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

Taka is ranked 6th in the region and 66,216th in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

shove that in your pipe and smoke it.

Nianacio is ranked 6th in the region and 351st in the world for Stupidest Citizens.More propoganda! :o Homeschooling is quite effective if you want educated citizens.

According to the UN report for your nation: "The average income tax rate is 100%. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out."

So how is our system any worse than yours?

Because we have little if any poverty, for one thing. Slaves are, by definition, poor.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TEA1WL6tIGQC:w1.150.telia.com/~u15008589

OOC: Yes, my people are stupid. Why do you think it is so easy to suppress them? I can tell them anything I like using big words and they will look at me and know I’m doing right.

Anyways, you avoided the point I made about how your people care about politics but don’t necessarily agree with them, unless you have some crappy UN stat to prove otherwise.

Would you mind facing the issue at hand, and not relying on UN reports as your only defence?

Oh, we have never relied on UN reports as our only defense.

You are forcing your people to be healthy, forcing them to be educated, but if they don't want to partake of our free clinics and education, why should we force them? And before you start railing on my country, do note, we are essentialy a massive military.

Oh? So what happens if a soldier disobeys the direct order of a commanding officer in your nation?


and because I feel like being especialy venomous,

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 64,576th in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

Taka is ranked 6th in the region and 66,216th in the world for Stupidest Citizens.

shove that in your pipe and smoke it.

We have never claimed to be better than every country in the world in every conceivable UN measure. We are merely pointing out that we are morally superior to the savage barbarians who roam the world stealing, killing, and destroying what they cannot understand. We have been historically a poor nation recovering from a massive and unprovoked nuclear attack. That means we have not always been able to devote as many resources as we would like to areas such as education. And yet with what meager resources we have been able to spare towards education, we have achieved a ranking roughly on a par with your own nation.

Because we have little if any poverty, for one thing. Slaves are, by definition, poor.

So being poor is a moral failing?

What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world's wealth but loses his own soul?

If a Takian soldier disobeys a dirrect order durring war time he is shot on sight, if it is durring peace time, he is courtmarshaled. The trial is completly unbiased, and if the order is found to have been a bad one, then the one issuing hte order is demoted, and if he executed the soldier who refused to obey it, he too is executed and rank is stripped from his family. It is brutal, but it is fair and effective, and most takians suport it.

Anyways, you avoided the point I made about how your people care about politics but don’t necessarily agree with them, unless you have some crappy UN stat to prove otherwise.

Well, logically if large numbers of people in my nation disagree with the government and are able to voice those opinions (so that even people in Noitan Teppup have heard them) is that not evidence we have "freedom of thought" and "freedom of speech"?

On the other hand, if it is merely a small number of malcontents and extremists, why should their opinion weigh more heavily than that of the vast majority who support the Goddess?

If a Takian soldier disobeys a dirrect order durring war time he is shot on sight, if it is durring peace time, he is courtmarshaled.

And you say virtually everyone in your society is in the military? So basically everyone in your country must obey orders from an "overseer" and is severely punished for disobedience to those orders.

How does your system differ from slavery? As near as I can see, the only difference between your system and ours is that you are unbelievers who do not worship the Goddess.

OOC: [smacks head against keyboard for a small interval] Do you understand what “OOC” means or are you trying to twist my words and again miss the point.

OOC = Out of Character, as in my nation is not saying it. I, as a player, am saying it.

Because your people are interested in politics (i.e. not apathetic which is the stat you quoted from the UN) this fact doesn’t mean they must like it because they are interested. I didn’t say that they hated it, just that you can’t use it for an argument claiming that your people agree; that’s a different stat all together.

Reason I did that post in OOC, because my nation doesn’t advertise the fact that we oppress our dumb people.

OOC: [smacks head against keyboard for a small interval] Do you understand what “OOC” means or are you trying to twist my words and again miss the point.

OOC = Out of Character, as in my nation is not saying it. I, as a player, am saying it.

OOC: Wait a minute here. You accused me of avoiding an issue and so I responded to it. Then you get all huffy and claim I shouldn't have responded because it was an OOC comment. You can't have it both ways. Did you want a response or not?

Sheesh!

And you say virtually everyone in your society is in the military? So basically everyone in your country must obey orders from an "overseer" and is severely punished for disobedience to those orders.

The difference is, orders are given for the benifit of the society as a whole, rather than for the benifit of a single group or caste. Officers in the military are not exempt, as I would immagine those who keep your slaves in line are. Our system differs from slavery because our military is a vollentary force, if you sign up you are taken care of, if you do not, then you are on your own, but we do not force anyone to join. A child is not born in the military, he must decide wether to enlist or not at the age of 16, untill then, he is trained in the military, but exempt from military law.

The difference is, orders are given for the benifit of the society as a whole, rather than for the benifit of a single group or caste.

Let's check facts again:

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 920th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Taka is ranked 1st in the region and 2,429th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Letila is ranked 71st in the region and 7,422nd in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Noitan Teppup is ranked 1724th in the region and 71,697th in the world for Healthiest Nations.

Nianacio is ranked 98th in the region and 76,542nd in the world for Healthiest Nations.

If you really want to criticize a nation which mistreats its people, please consider Nianacio or Noitan Teppup.

So being poor is a moral failing?

What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world's wealth but loses his own soul?

Uh, slaves are the victims. Poverty isn't a moral failing. You are right about the wealth, but you took my strongly anti-capitalism post and spindoctored it.

We will be laughing when the slaves revolt. To facilitate this, copies of the communist manifesto will be dropped on mauni. :lol:

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Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
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If you really want to criticize a nation which mistreats its people, please consider Nianacio or Noitan Teppup.I don't mistreat the people. I just don't treat them. If they want treatment, they visit a doctor.

If you really want to criticize a nation which mistreats its people, please consider Nianacio or Noitan Teppup.I don't mistreat the people. I just don't treat them. If they want treatment, they visit a doctor.

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 1,706th in the world for Most Comprehensive Public Healthcare.

Nianacio is ranked 108th in the region and 78,408th in the world for Most Comprehensive Public Healthcare.

Let's see, is there a link between healthy citizens and comprehensive Public Healthcare?

Uh, slaves are the victims.

How so?

Once again, our people have clean air and water, a beautiful nation, good healthcare, low crime. And after death our citizens will serve Mauni forever while the heretics will burn in Hell.

Let's see, is there a link between healthy citizens and comprehensive Public Healthcare?Yea. Comprehensize public healthcare leads to unhealthy citizens because they have to wait about a year to get any treatment unless they're so sick they're going to die before then.

The Holy Empire of St. Bevelle is considering using convicted fellons as slave labor as an alternative to the death penalty. Of course the people who blatently defy our holy religion will be executed by being fed to monsters, but for more moderate offenses I see no need to execute a man. And as far as you so called civilized nations that warehouse your criminals in jails, our way is much more humane as the prisoner just sits and rots while my slaves accomplish something during the day.

We of Callidus believe that slavery is wrong but we will not tell others how to run their country, but we will allow no slavery or the moving of slaves through our country

Let's see, is there a link between healthy citizens and comprehensive Public Healthcare?Yea. Comprehensize public healthcare leads to unhealthy citizens because they have to wait about a year to get any treatment unless they're so sick they're going to die before then.In RL... in his nation he could have actually run it responsibly.

How does slavery and healthcare relate to each other? By your logic, one could attribute his success to showering at 7:00 instead of 8:00...

How so?

Once again, our people have clean air and water, a beautiful nation, good healthcare, low crime. And after death our citizens will serve Mauni forever while the heretics will burn in Hell.

Enough with the rhetoric. Your religion can't be proven or disproven, though it's obviously been made to serve your needs. The slaves have no freedom, are property, and can't do anything about this. No amount of rhetoric can change that.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TEA1WL6tIGQC:w1.150.telia.com/~u15008589

Enough with the rhetoric. Your religion can't be proven or disproven, though it's obviously been made to serve your needs.

Mauni is ranked 1st in the region and 1,959th in the world for Most Beautiful Environments.

Our ranking speaks for itself.