Roanian Crimes and Punishments; The Polizei too!
((This is one step further towards putting together a full encyclopedia on my nation. Government, Characters ((have to redo those)), Galactic Fleet, Roanian Inquisition, flora and fauna, landmarks... that leaves the Legions and the RIA.))
Roanian Polizei
The Roanian police, or polizei, are some of the harshest judicial officers on the planet.
They are authorised to use lethal force, should they catch anyone breaking the law.
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They are armed with a variety of weapons, the details of which are classified. They can be male or fema
They embody the law. They are judge and executioner.
((I'll add more later. The laws will be up soon))
Roanian Laws and punishments
Murder: A long, horrible torture that won't be described here, followed by a long agonising death.
Manslaughter: Death.
Rape: Being used as a test subject for chemical weapons, not being allowed to have a consecrated grave.
Blasphemy, heathenism: Handed over to Inquisition for torture and stoning.
Being a cult member: Death.
Treason: A long, painful death, regeneration, and then being fed to the dire wolves.
Cheating on taxes: Double the amount stolen is removed from the bank account.
Perjury: A public flogging.
Theft: 15 years in the prison or Inquisitorial dungeon.
Serial Killing: Killed and regenerated repeatedly.
((Am I being too rough? To light handed? Tell me!))
imported_Celeborne
13-10-2003, 10:53
OOC: and now the do-gooders response.
Roanian Laws and punishments
Murder: A long, horrible torture that won't be described here, followed by a long agonising death.
One would think that killing them would be enough. Why the neccesity for torture and an agonizing death ? This will not bring back the ones who were lost, nor will it make the families feel better. Also it is a provin fact that this sort of punishment does little to discourage other offenders. Must murders are crimes of passion where the conciquences are not considered.
Manslaughter: Death.
This seems a bit extreme for an accidental or non-intentional death.
Rape: Being used as a test subject for chemical weapons, not being allowed to have a consecrated grave.
No argument
Blasphemy, heathenism: Handed over to Inquisition for torture and stoning.
Torture and stoning has never stopped anyone from having beliefs and sharing them with others. A lot of scientific knowledge has been lost because the church decided that their research was blasphemy.
Being a cult member: Death.
I believe that killing someone for being a part of an orginization (and I am sure that your definition of cult is somewhere along the lines of not being a catholic orginization) as a bit on the extreme side. Perhaps counciling ??
Treason: A long, painful death, regeneration, and then being fed to the dire wolves.
[i]You could just send them over to my refugee program
Cheating on taxes: Double the amount stolen is removed from the bank account.
That seems fair and just, providing that your taxation program if also fair and just.
Perjury: A public flogging.
I like that one
Theft: 15 years in the prison or Inquisitorial dungeon.
It seems a bit extreme if they stole gum...Perhaps if you had different time lengths based on the value of the property ? And I don't think theft of anything is worthy of the Inquisitorial death camp...I mean dungeon.
Serial Killing: Killed and regenerated repeatedly.
They may like that, best to just have it done with and not worry about the possibility of escape
OOC: and now the do-gooders response.
Thank you, Celeborne. Now, I'll respond. For the sake of ease, my words are in normal font. Celeborne's are like this
Roanian Laws and punishments
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Murder: A long, horrible torture that won't be described here, followed by a long agonising death.
One would think that killing them would be enough. Why the neccesity for torture and an agonizing death ? This will not bring back the ones who were lost, nor will it make the families feel better. Also it is a provin fact that this sort of punishment does little to discourage other offenders. Must murders are crimes of passion where the conciquences are not considered.
And if the torture was broadcast? I know what you are saying, but prison is too light a sentence for them.
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Manslaughter: Death. ((Edit: if remorse is shown: 25 years))
This seems a bit extreme for an accidental or non-intentional death.
Compared to the punishment for murder, it's heaven. However, you can convince me on that. How's this?
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Rape: Being used as a test subject for chemical weapons, not being allowed to have a consecrated grave.
No argument
I'm surprised... actually, I'm not.
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Blasphemy, heathenism: Handed over to Inquisition for torture and stoning.
Torture and stoning has never stopped anyone from having beliefs and sharing them with others. A lot of scientific knowledge has been lost because the church decided that their research was blasphemy.
Blasphemy as in profaning God. Heathenism as in serving ruinous powers.
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Being a cult member: Death.
I believe that killing someone for being a part of an orginization (and I am sure that your definition of cult is somewhere along the lines of not being a catholic orginization) as a bit on the extreme side. Perhaps counciling ??
Hey, I allow moslems and jews and Greater Wheel buddhists to practice their religion. And if Eastern Orthodox christians ever arrived in Roania, I'd fit them in. Trust me, some cults are dangerous. Very dangerous.
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Treason: A long, painful death, regeneration, and then being fed to the dire wolves.
You could just send them over to my refugee program
I'm assuming this is a joke.
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Cheating on taxes: Double the amount stolen is removed from the bank account.
That seems fair and just, providing that your taxation program if also fair and just.
Define 'fair and just'
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Perjury: A public flogging.
I like that one
Yes, I can see how it would solve several problems.
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Theft: 15 years in the prison or Inquisitorial dungeon. ((JO decides where, for how long.))
It seems a bit extreme if they stole gum...Perhaps if you had different time lengths based on the value of the property ? And I don't think theft of anything is worthy of the Inquisitorial death camp...I mean dungeon.
Depends on what they steal. It's the Judicial Officer's decision as to the punishment.
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Serial Killing: Killed and regenerated repeatedly.
They may like that, best to just have it done with and not worry about the possibility of escape
Hmm...
imported_Celeborne
13-10-2003, 11:16
I will continue to use this type to show my responses
Roanian Laws and punishments
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And if the torture was broadcast? I know what you are saying, but prison is too light a sentence for them.
I agree, but you must understand that even if you broadcast the torture you would only eliminate a percentage of your premeditated murders and none of your crimes of passion. Perhaps simply killiing them and then confiscating all of their personal property would help. In that case the family of the future murderer would help prevent the crime. (see I am not all do-gooder)
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Compared to the punishment for murder, it's heaven. However, you can convince me on that. How's this?
25 years seems a bit more reasonable, but I would want to see your nations definition for manslaughter before discussing this further
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I'm surprised... actually, I'm not.
I am only a full time do-gooder for the innocent[i]
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Blasphemy as in profaning God. Heathenism as in serving ruinous powers.
[i]Seems very harsh for not thinking the same as everyone else.
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Hey, I allow moslems and jews and Greater Wheel buddhists to practice their religion. And if Eastern Orthodox christians ever arrived in Roania, I'd fit them in. Trust me, some cults are dangerous. Very dangerous.
this is another case where I would want to see your nations definition for the word "cult"
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I'm assuming this is a joke.
I have taken in your political dissenters before
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Define 'fair and just'
Paying their fair share, but no one group supporting everyone else.
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Depends on what they steal. It's the Judicial Officer's decision as to the punishment.
That makes sense
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Hmm..
Kinda scarey to think about ain't it ?
I will continue to use this type to show my responses
Very well. Hey, you're not that good, for a dogooder.
Roanian Laws and punishments
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I agree, but you must understand that even if you broadcast the torture you would only eliminate a percentage of your premeditated murders and none of your crimes of passion. Perhaps simply killiing them and then confiscating all of their personal property would help. In that case the family of the future murderer would help prevent the crime. (see I am not all do-gooder)
That's an interesting concept.
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25 years seems a bit more reasonable, but I would want to see your nations definition for manslaughter before discussing this further
Roanian Legal Definition of "manslaughter": An accidental death, caused by stupidity or foolishness of the person responsible. Allowing someone to commit suicide would be manslaughter.
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Seems very harsh for not thinking the same as everyone else.
Harsh would be killing them and their families and business contacts to stamp the taint out.
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this is another case where I would want to see your nations definition for the word "cult"
Roanian Definition of "Cult": Any religion or religious denomination not listed on the Certificate of Religion. Anything and everything involving demons or devils.
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I have taken in your political dissenters before
Dissenters are not traitors, and they are generally punished when they go on the street and start to protest. People who sell weapons or secrets would be traitors.
Of course, considering how brutal Dire Wolves are... it might be advisable to do it once, film it, and show it to all government employees once every 6 weeks.
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Paying their fair share, but no one group supporting everyone else.
This is an absolute monarcy.
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Eizen believes that the ROanians are on to soemthing with thier punishment, Crime rates in Eizen are low enough that we do not feel we derive any benefit from harsh punishments, however, our early history was dominated with lawlessness and chaos that was brought under control through an "Iron" Fist, hence our rise as the "Eizen" Empire.
imported_Celeborne
13-10-2003, 12:17
I will continue our debate tomorrow. I must leave now.
Wombat News
13-10-2003, 12:29
Wombat News is curious - what do you propose as a fair punishment for reporting the truth .. ?
Also, can you enlighten us on what punishments you dish out for poor spelling and grammer .. viz Eizen?
:lol:
WN
His Majesty accounts for every Typo, mispelling, and incorrect bit of punctuation on this forum as the inevitable result of translating the many hundreds of languages of Nationstates into one basic format. No translator works perfectly all the time.
Roanian Laws and punishments
Murder: A long, horrible torture that won't be described here, followed by a long agonising death.
Manslaughter: Death.
Rape: Being used as a test subject for chemical weapons, not being allowed to have a consecrated grave.
Blasphemy, heathenism: Handed over to Inquisition for torture and stoning.
Being a cult member: Death.
Treason: A long, painful death, regeneration, and then being fed to the dire wolves.
Cheating on taxes: Double the amount stolen is removed from the bank account.
Perjury: A public flogging.
Theft: 15 years in the prison or Inquisitorial dungeon.
Serial Killing: Killed and regenerated repeatedly.
((Am I being too rough? To light handed? Tell me!))
Though we do not agree with your solutions to the problems that undoubtedly run rampent in your country we can see how you would find these punishments to be adequate and as such we do not protest them.
Very Impressive, you give us a fine blueprint to maintain order.
The Ctan
13-10-2003, 23:54
Roanian Polizei
The Roanian police, or polizei, are some of the harshest judicial officers on the planet.
They are authorised to use lethal force, should they catch anyone breaking the law.
[Message from wherever in Roania she is right now, I really should have collected her.]
Anyone? Excepting the Inquisition, and the millitary, and the elite of course? Or shall I commit some crimes to test this theory?
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imported_Celeborne
14-10-2003, 06:16
I will continue to use this type to show my responses
Very well. Hey, you're not that good, for a dogooder.
I am a moderate do-gooder
Roanian Laws and punishments
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That's an interesting concept.
Thank you, it works for us
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Roanian Legal Definition of "manslaughter": An accidental death, caused by stupidity or foolishness of the person responsible. Allowing someone to commit suicide would be manslaughter.
It would seem that there should be some sort of a sliding scale based on the level of stupidity involved in the death. I.E. A drunk driver would recieve a harsher sentance than a little girl who accidently dropped a toy out of a window that landed on someones head and killed them[i/]
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Harsh would be killing them and their families and business contacts to stamp the taint out.
[i] I think that would be more like psycotic, however if it works for you...
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Roanian Definition of "Cult": Any religion or religious denomination not listed on the Certificate of Religion. Anything and everything involving demons or devils.
We agree completely with the demons and devils part ( we also include anything that supports vampirism). We are curious to know if it is possable for new religions to apply for a certificate of religion ?
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Dissenters are not traitors, and they are generally punished when they go on the street and start to protest. People who sell weapons or secrets would be traitors.
Of course, considering how brutal Dire Wolves are... it might be advisable to do it once, film it, and show it to all government employees once every 6 weeks.
That clears things up considerably for us
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This is an absolute monarcy.
Yes, but is any one group supporting everyone else ?
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Menelmacar
14-10-2003, 06:21
I will assume, of course, that the Menelmacari-Valarist and Sirithilist faiths are on this 'Certificate of Religion'?
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I will assume, of course, that the Menelmacari-Valarist and Sirithilist faiths are on this 'Certificate of Religion'?
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Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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"Is there any answer we can give that won't involve a painful nasty death?" Cardinal Richelieu asked the full council.
"Um... we could tell her that the paperwork is in motion, and we're waiting for it to be cleared, but that everyone who wishes to practice those religions may."
"Will she check?"
"Probably."
"Then that's what we'll tell her."
Anyone? Excepting the Inquisition, and the millitary, and the elite of course? Or shall I commit some crimes to test this theory?
The Inquisition is policed by the RIA.
The military is policed by the Inquisition.
The elite are to busy to be bothered with police.
Amazingly, the system works.
Wombat News is curious - what do you propose as a fair punishment for reporting the truth .. ?
Also, can you enlighten us on what punishments you dish out for poor spelling and grammer .. viz Eizen?
That would require a reporter that knows the truth. So far, it's never come up.
Very well. Hey, you're not that good, for a dogooder.
I am a moderate do-gooder
Well, keep it up.
Roanian Laws and punishments
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It would seem that there should be some sort of a sliding scale based on the level of stupidity involved in the death. I.E. A drunk driver would recieve a harsher sentance than a little girl who accidently dropped a toy out of a window that landed on someones head and killed them
Drunk driving is murder. A child is not included in any of these laws.
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I think that would be more like psycotic, however if it works for you...
These are dangerous times.
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We agree completely with the demons and devils part ( we also include anything that supports vampirism). We are curious to know if it is possable for new religions to apply for a certificate of religion ?
It's not impossible, let's say that.
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Yes, but is any one group supporting everyone else ?
Um... the really, really poor who don't need money because the state provides for them.
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imported_Celeborne
14-10-2003, 10:16
I think we may be in agreement on some things, and not to far off on the others...I feel dirty :)
Come, join the dark side...
imported_Ell
15-10-2003, 09:14
What about school-shootings, child rapists, child murders, etc?
What about school-shootings, child rapists, child murders, etc?
Murder is punishable by death.
Rape is punished by chemical weapons testing. The Roanians are equal oppurtinity punishers.
((I think NS is slowing down because school has restarted for the yanks. Only explanation.))
imported_Celeborne
15-10-2003, 09:21
No I would lose my do-gooder discount card and secret decoder ring.
No I would lose my do-gooder discount card and secret decoder ring.
Yes, but evil-doers get more fringe benefits.
Immortality, cool hideouts, the lot.
imported_Celeborne
15-10-2003, 11:52
Yeah but your henchmen are always stupid.
Yes, but I train my henchmen to perfect standard. Along the lines of "Mess up, and I feed you to the direwolves."
Come to the dark side, Celeborne. It comes with this nice Darth Vader outfit!
imported_Celeborne
15-10-2003, 12:05
You almost had me up untill that Darth Vader thing... I mean black is very slimming but that helmet is a terror on my hair.
How do you feel about Nazgul outfit?
imported_Celeborne
15-10-2003, 12:20
Sexy....And short people will fear me....Must fight evil...must...fight...ev....
You are giving in. Come... join us...
imported_Celeborne
16-10-2003, 09:02
You are not my father...Wait, wrong movie.
The ring shall be mine.
Bad guys are always losing there jewelry.....
Is there a special evil mastermind discount store ?
Um, yes. Mephisto runs it.
((A character I pinched from Faust, and who I use as a general opposition to Rave Shentavo))
Where else can you buy cursed blades, black armor, golden rings that have a horrible spell on them, the complete works of Sade, and flying monkeys?
Not to mention headquarters, sharks with laser beams attached to their head, and evil vegetables.
Come, give in. Forsake the lightside. Join us.
imported_Celeborne
16-10-2003, 09:13
Do you offer health , medical, and dental insurance ?
Health? Yes.
Medical, no. But we do offer tax incentives, and will pay for your first cybernetic implants.
Dental... um, I don't know.
imported_Celeborne
16-10-2003, 09:24
Interesting offer.... However on the light side you recieve the following benifits:
1. Full coverage for Visual, medical and dental insurance
2. Two weeks paid vaction per year
3. That cool glowing halo of light behind you
4. The girl, the good guy always gets the give
5. Never , ever have to eat a human heart or brain.
6. No slaves to revolt, just willing helpers
7. Frequent flyer miles really rack up while chasing the bad guys to the secret island.
8. Cool code names.
9. Free tuxedos for everyone
10. The guy infront of you always takes the bullet for you
Come on over to the light side, the water is fine.
WATER! AUGH!
*Runs far away*
imported_Celeborne
16-10-2003, 09:37
Not water...excuse me, I meant to say the...um...scotch, single malt, is fine.