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Xinhua News Agency--

At October 12, 2003, the Chinese People's Liberation Army, for security puproses, has begin to conduct several cruise missile testings near the Taiwan Strait. Reportly the cruise missiles are CSSC-2 and CSSC-3 anti-ship missiles, but can also be used for ground-to-ground role.

In other news, live amphibious landing exercises and live ammunition artillery firing exercises are also being conducted on the coast.

That is all.

OOC: For infomational puproses, it is now Omz222 who is controlling PRC China. The origional owner seems to be out of NS.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force begins to station more J-8 and J-10 fighter aircraft near airstrips on the borders of southeast China.

Chinese officials stated that this is only "A protective move to protect us from the invaders at _Taiwan".

Military purchases are also scheduled. The Chinese PLA will likely be importing several Sukhoi Su-30MKKs, and Lavi fighters.

OOC: Really?
IC:
The ROCAF has raised it's level of alert to DEFCON 3, the second highest level of alert. Despite speeches by President Chen Shui Bian, food riots have broken out in several cities, with Wal-Marts and Woolworth stores in Taipei razed to the ground by rioters. Patriot PAC-IIIs have been deployed in all major cities as a precautionary measure.

OOC: Really?
IC:
The ROCAF has raised it's level of alert to DEFCON 3, the second highest level of alert. Despite speeches by President Chen Shui Bian, food riots have broken out in several cities, with Wal-Marts and Woolworth stores in Taipei razed to the ground by rioters. Patriot PAC-IIIs have been deployed in all major cities as a precautionary measure.

OOC: Crap, wrong account.

OOC: lol, yep :)

IC:

Chinese People's Daily --- October 14th, 2003

The Chinese Foreign Affairs Ministry recently has started that "this is only a defensive measure". It also has stated that "if the illegal government on Taiwan Province continues to show its resistance, it shall be viewed as an act of aggresion, and more live ammunition tests will commerce".

Hong Qian-2 and Hong Qian-15 SAM installations can be seen around major Chinese cities, such as Beijing, Shanghai, and even near Hong Kong.

The Chinese military is also believed to prepare for several ballistic missile tests, which can carry nuclear warheads, and have the range of reaching anywhere in Taiwan Province.

Recently it has been confirmed that the Chinese People's Liberation Air Force has imported 432 Su-37 Superflanker aircraft for Air Force use (custom M version), plus 24 Su-37 (custom E version).

The Air Force also begin to import a stock of AA-11 missiles.

Expected manufacturing completion is 5 years.

The Su-37 aircraft is believed to eb a fierce competitor to many American aircraft used today.

If Taiwan requires aid I would be happy to help

We have noted this situation. However, we shall be nertual.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

In the wake of this crisis, all flights from the mainland have been stopped, and all PRC citizens are to be monitored.

3 Constantine Class Heavy missile cruisers are moving into AS-19 missile range, approxiamately 3,000km from Beijing. Each carriers 120 missiles ready for launch, plus reloads which can be reloaded in 90 seconds.

the government of East Islandia condemns the move by the Mainland and calls for both sides to back down.

Fellow Chinese are not our enemy; instead, we should concentrate on the imperialists and their lackeys.

The Republic is grateful for FR's assistance in this time of difficulty.

The Republic is grateful for FR's assistance in this time of difficulty.

The Republic is grateful for FR's assistance in this time of difficulty. We agree with East Islandia's stance, and will release detained chinese as soon as PRC stops missile testing.

I would like to ask Taiwan's permission in stationing several MiG-31's optimized for cruise missile intercept inside his country.

We repeat, this is only a defensive measure.

Simply put, we will not back down, since we don't have a reason to back down. The defences, including shore artillery, ground-based cruise missile launchers, and mobile ballistic missile TELS, will stay.

Spokesman Yang Qian-Yi
Foreign Affairs Ministry

Missile testing is not a defensive measure, however if it is considered defensive, please conduct your tests elsewhere given the history of our two governments.

Taiwan you want my MiG-31's?

We have our right to test cruise missiles anywhere within our territory we'd like.

Additional Jian-15 (MiG-31CH -- Chinese version) interceptors are now stationed in major cities, along with Jian-10 and Jian-11 (Su-30MKK) fighters.

OOC: What a nice state of affair. 2 of my allies managing 2 very contradictory countries.....Cool...< Thinking of approaching both Taiwan and PRC for monetary gains >... yup Taiwan has highly skilled labors while china has low cost of labour....Good for Gradenk to be cost effective...but that's oocly ofcourse..

Ic:

Empire of Gradenk would continue to monitor the situation about the latest tension in the stratis.

OOC: I prefer peaceful engagement...I don't want to go against anyone of you....because I know both of you oocly.

Haaregradia will send the HNS Fidel Castro, a Marx class dreadnought and her associated battlegroup to monitor activites, they will remain in international waters.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422994/bcvn01marx.jpg
The HNS Leon Trotsky, a Marx class dreadnought

OOC: Yep, this should be a good repeat of the Taiwan Strait Crisis III...

OOC: And I wonder which side the real Omz and Ell will stand by.....A stalemate would happen eh ?. until then...Gradenk would ahem..." monitor" the situation.

Do you not understand the consequences of a war right now? China and its people cannot afford to fight each other! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE STRIFE THAT WAS VISITED UPON US BY THE IMPERIALISTS AND THEIR DOGS WHEN WE WERE TOO BUSY KILLING EACH OTHER?!! we must never let this happen again, and the way to do that is a UNITED CHINA, one unified not neccessarily under one government, but under one ideal- we are all Chinese, even us Islandians, who are mostly Asian exiles and expatriates from the horrible times of the nineteenth century. We CANNOT, we MUST NOT fight each other.

On this note, we call for the Mainland to stand down their testing and restore their relations with Taiwan.

Councilor Chiang Chi-wei, Islandian Committee for a United Asia.

OOC: I know that this is not my cup of tea but China would not invade Taiwan...well in Rl that is.. Taiwan is so superior militarily plus China only conduct it's military training near Taiwan just to rattle them..but the fact is they don't have the logistics to move massive amount of forces to Taiwan. By the time they do, China would have been decimated....part at least by Taiwanese Jets and other superior equipped troops.

Though in future...Chinese forces would become strong..and they would indeed. Maybe then they have the capacity to conquer Taiwan..but then again, I doubt they would do it. I suppose Taiwan would fold back like how Hong Kong & Macau did to China. War is not realistic however much Chinese Forces are trying to show that they're capable of doing it.

We have noted this crisis. To maintain stability, we will send the following taskforce to the Taiwan Strait, in International waters:

-ONCS Victor (CVN 1), Victor Class Aircraft Carrier
12 F-14F Tomcat II, 12 F/A-18IE Super Hornet, 4 EA-18G Growler, 4 S-3B Viking, 3 E-2C Hawkeye, 4 SH-60 LAMPS III Sea Hawk (VCN-211 Hell's Fury)
-ONCS Stabilization (CG 7), Carrack Class Missile Cruiser, fitted with CIRRUS Mk.1 Fire Control system with AN/SPY-4A radar.
-ONCS Omange (FF 21), ONCS Wankabon (FF 25), Ikara Class ASW Frigate
-ONCS Honjak (DDG 27), ONCS Thirty-Nine (DDG 42), ONCS Thirty-Eight (DDG 41), Honjak Class Bombardment Destroyers
-ONCS First (DD 12), ONCS Nin (DD 5), Sparrowhawk Class Multirole Destroyers
-ONCS Vanguard (SSN 15), Dolphin II Class Attack Submarine

Do you not understand the consequences of a war right now? China and its people cannot afford to fight each other! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE STRIFE THAT WAS VISITED UPON US BY THE IMPERIALISTS AND THEIR DOGS WHEN WE WERE TOO BUSY KILLING EACH OTHER?!! we must never let this happen again, and the way to do that is a UNITED CHINA, one unified not neccessarily under one government, but under one ideal- we are all Chinese, even us Islandians, who are mostly Asian exiles and expatriates from the horrible times of the nineteenth century. We CANNOT, we MUST NOT fight each other.

On this note, we call for the Mainland to stand down their testing and restore their relations with Taiwan.

Councilor Chiang Chi-wei, Islandian Committee for a United Asia.
If the Separationists at Taiwan give up on us, we would settle down this defensive measure.

Simply put, this is only a defensive measure within our own territory. Nations can't stop us.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

OOC:

OOC: I know that this is not my cup of tea but China would not invade Taiwan...well in Rl that is.. Taiwan is so superior militarily plus China only conduct it's military training near Taiwan just to rattle them..but the fact is they don't have the logistics to move massive amount of forces to Taiwan. By the time they do, China would have been decimated....part at least by Taiwanese Jets and other superior equipped troops.

Though in future...Chinese forces would become strong..and they would indeed. Maybe then they have the capacity to conquer Taiwan..but then again, I doubt they would do it. I suppose Taiwan would fold back like how Hong Kong & Macau did to China. War is not realistic however much Chinese Forces are trying to show that they're capable of doing it.


True, the technology over at Taiwan is very superior (well, maybe except the M-60 Tanks). But it is also true that the Chinese forces is growing. Just look at its yearly purchase of warships, submarines, and fighter jets from Russia :shock: . If Russia exported China their Tu-22ms, then it will go even further.

East Islandia offers to conduct negotiations at Rugola Archipelago between the two sides. We are willing to do anything to stop this civil war.

OOC: i think gradenk's rite. In spite of a growing tendency of the American media to concentrate on the taiwan crisis, neither side will risk war; they have too much to lose.

This is not an action to spark a war. As we have explained earlier, this is not a war. Although the separationists over at Taiwan refuses to give up, we will not fight a war. However, if the international community think this is a step towards war, we could partcipate in peace talks and explain ourselves.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

OOC: I wouldn't say China would necessarily loose a war with Taiwan. Their Type 96 is a generation ahead of Taiwan's latest tank, they vastly outnumber the Taiwanese in sheer manpower, and China fields a force of Tu-160 heavy bombers, wherease Taiwan has no medium or heavy bomber force to speak of. China also has Sovremenny (sp) class destroyers, which are pretty formidable warships.

OOC: I wouldn't say China would necessarily loose a war with Taiwan. Their Type 96 is a generation ahead of Taiwan's latest tank, they vastly outnumber the Taiwanese in sheer manpower, and China fields a force of Tu-160 heavy bombers, wherease Taiwan has no medium or heavy bomber force to speak of. China also has Sovremenny (sp) class destroyers, which are pretty formidable warships.
China doesn't have Tu-160's

OOC: I wouldn't say China would necessarily loose a war with Taiwan. Their Type 96 is a generation ahead of Taiwan's latest tank, they vastly outnumber the Taiwanese in sheer manpower, and China fields a force of Tu-160 heavy bombers, wherease Taiwan has no medium or heavy bomber force to speak of. China also has Sovremenny (sp) class destroyers, which are pretty formidable warships.
1. True, the Taiwanese M60 Pattons are seriously behind the line.
2. Actually, China doesn't have any Tu-160, nor Tu-22m. It only has Tu-16s (which are now retired, TOO old). I've heard that the Chinese PLA is developing its own strategic bomber now.
3. True, but the Taiwanese also has those Arleigh Burkes. In a naval fight between ROCN and PLAN, I wold say it is pertty a tie-tie.

OOC: I know that this is not my cup of tea but China would not invade Taiwan...well in Rl that is.. Taiwan is so superior militarily plus China only conduct it's military training near Taiwan just to rattle them..but the fact is they don't have the logistics to move massive amount of forces to Taiwan. By the time they do, China would have been decimated....part at least by Taiwanese Jets and other superior equipped troops.

Though in future...Chinese forces would become strong..and they would indeed. Maybe then they have the capacity to conquer Taiwan..but then again, I doubt they would do it. I suppose Taiwan would fold back like how Hong Kong & Macau did to China. War is not realistic however much Chinese Forces are trying to show that they're capable of doing it.

China could take Taiwan with its pinky finger now, the only worries is the US getting in its way.

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

When your armed forces number around 10 million, including some armed militias, it doesnt really matter when your fighting a nation with a total population of only 22,603,001.

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!
OOC: Well it does, but that's not the only fighter it uses. Except the Fishbeds, the Chinese is now using the J-11 (Su-30MKK) and will deploy the J-10 (home-grown Chinese fighter, based on the Israeli Lavi fighter. A fierce competitor to MiG-29s and F-16s). By the next ten to twenty years, the J-12 (said to be a F-22 grade fighter) would be finished too.

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

Yeah, and they sucked when they were first made. China also uses Lavis and Flankers, so don't underestimate them too much.

Still, one thing that i dont agree with Gradenk on is how he says China is weak; the only things China lacks are a navy and a sufficently sized air force; otherwise, teh PLA, long the best force in the chinese communist military, could destroy Taiwan.

We hope not, as the Chinese people have other worries.

IC
Regardless, EI is worried; we still offer to hold negotiations on Rugola Archipelago for the two contesting sides.

HOW WILL THEY GET INTO TAIWAN, SWIM ACROSS THE TAIWAN STRAIT? RIDE IN BMP'S?

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

As training aircraft genius

HOW WILL THEY GET INTO TAIWAN, SWIM ACROSS THE TAIWAN STRAIT? RIDE IN BMP'S?
OOC: The Chinese amphibious force is larger than people think, and its navy is even bigger than Russia's now.

Yeah, and they sucked when they were first made. China also uses Lavis and Flankers, so don't underestimate them too much.
The Chinese did buy the Lavi, plus the production rights/etc for it when Israel canceled it. But it doesn't use the Lavi. Instead, it uses the J-10, which is similar to the Lavi, as it has several technologies from the Lavi.

HOW WILL THEY GET INTO TAIWAN, SWIM ACROSS THE TAIWAN STRAIT? RIDE IN BMP'S?

you've put your finger on the problem. The Chinese Marines are elite forces, more like US Navy SEALs or the British SBS, not like the USMC.
Any cross strait war will cost thousands of lives.

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

Yeah, and they sucked when they were first made. China also uses Lavis and Flankers, so don't underestimate them too much.
they have 70 or so flankers, 0 Lavis currently, 150 J-8's, 500 J-7's(MiG-21), and 1000 MIG-19's

Don't overestimate them too much.

they have 70 or so flankers, 0 Lavis currently, 150 J-8's, 500 J-7's(MiG-21), and 1000 MIG-19's

Don't overestimate them too much.

Where did you get those statistics. The british MoD regards the PLAAF as one of the most formidable in the world.

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

Yeah, and they sucked when they were first made. China also uses Lavis and Flankers, so don't underestimate them too much.
they have 70 or so flankers, 0 Lavis currently, 150 J-8's, 500 J-7's(MiG-21), and 1000 MIG-19's

Don't overestimate them too much.
True, that's what hey have now. But what they projected is 300+ Su-30s, and I heard that the Chinese would buy 1000 Su-30MKKs (to completely replace the MiG-21/19) if it doesn't had those budget cutbacks.

The Chinee AF may be weak now, but it is growing --- fast.

HOW WILL THEY GET INTO TAIWAN, SWIM ACROSS THE TAIWAN STRAIT? RIDE IN BMP'S?
OOC: The Chinese amphibious force is larger than people think, and its navy is even bigger than Russia's now.

they have 4 amphibious ships. Each can only carry like 300 troops and 10 tanks. Hope they like making trips.

CHINA STILL USES MIG-19'S FFS!!!

Yeah, and they sucked when they were first made. China also uses Lavis and Flankers, so don't underestimate them too much.
they have 70 or so flankers, 0 Lavis currently, 150 J-8's, 500 J-7's(MiG-21), and 1000 MIG-19's

Don't overestimate them too much.

Nope. More like a hundred Flankers, with another two hundred or so out in a year or so. J10s are undergoing production, and J9s, a stopgap measure, are also close to being finished. (J9s are also known as FC1). Also, a large number of Su30MKKs were purchased.

Okay, thought they had a larger force, considering how the MoD is very afraid of it.

HOW WILL THEY GET INTO TAIWAN, SWIM ACROSS THE TAIWAN STRAIT? RIDE IN BMP'S?
OOC: The Chinese amphibious force is larger than people think, and its navy is even bigger than Russia's now.

they have 4 amphibious ships. Each can only carry like 300 troops and 10 tanks. Hope they like making trips.

you do realize their Marines are only three brigades or so. Besides, China would not invade Taiwan, inspite of all the saber rattling from Beijing; play along with their farce, and no one will be hurt.

In a few years though, it wont be a farce. Then the PLA will kick ass.. hopefully not Taiwanese ass.

Okay, thought they had a larger force, considering how the MoD is very afraid of it.
OOC: As said, the MoD of UK shouldn't really be afraid of the PLAAF now --- but it will be.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/plaaf-equip.htm

Gen. Liu, Leader of the Armed Republic of Sino would like to congratulate PRC China on her efforts to crackdown on a lawless, separatist rogue state. Sino pledges to help PRC China in our common cause of uniting all Chinese-speaking peoples.

Gen. Liu would like to fly to Beijing to sign a treaty of co-operation between PRC China and Sino.

Ok. So where were we on the RP?

www.sinodefence.com

OOC: http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/amphibious/default.asp

It actually lists the PLAN to have 60 large and medium amphibious assualt ships, including 40 medium landing ships, 300 LCU landing crafts, and 40 LCACs.

IC:

We would be delighted to coopreate with the Armed Republic of Sino to eye this separationist state.

General Liu will be welcomed by a military parade.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

In NS, despite Sino being located somewhat away from the Mainland, Sino represents a futuristic, nationalist China. Our J-10s, J-12s and Xia-II missile subs will keep the sepratists at bay.

Agrigento supports East Islandia's proposal to attempt a peaceful solution.

OOC: Thanks Sino for getting this RP back on topic.

IC: When the Castro arrives her mission will be to launch reconnaisance flights over the straight.

As a defensive move, we would be very interested if Sino could export us some of their J-12s.

As a defensive move I am donating 20 B-4b's and 300 Su-30MKR's to Taiwan

And the chinese MiG-31 is the MiG-31Eh. You must have made up the Jian-15 part. And has china even bought them yet?

OOC: http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/amphibious/default.asp

It actually lists the PLAN to have 60 large and medium amphibious assualt ships, including 40 medium landing ships, 300 LCU landing crafts, and 40 LCACs.

IC:

We would be delighted to coopreate with the Armed Republic of Sino to eye this separationist state.

General Liu will be welcomed by a military parade.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

General Liu would like to demonstrate the stength of Sino to the PRC Chinese leaders (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1703846&highlight=#1703846)

OOC: *Salutes the 1x1.3m Chinese flag in his bedroom*

Chinese People's Daily --- November 2, 2003

The Chinese PLAN Marine Corps are commercing various amphibious landing exercises on islands off the short of taiwan Strait. Involved are Yuting Class Amphibious ships, and Yuhai and Yudeng medium Amphibious ships. Marine Corps Special Operation forces, codenamed "Frogmen", were inserted to a deserted jungle island via the torpedo tubes of a Han Class Nuclear Attack submarine, completed a simulated demolition mission, and fled back. Performance are meeting PLAN commander's satisfaction.

These amphibious forces can land on the Quemoy and Matsu Islands with ease.

And the chinese MiG-31 is the MiG-31Eh. You must have made up the Jian-15 part. And has china even bought them yet?
OOC: I did, the origional MiG-31 wasn't meeting our leader's expectations.

IC:

Of course we did, we modified them ourselves.

As a defensive move I am donating 20 B-4b's and 300 Su-30MKR's to Taiwan

Go deal with your post-Cold War economic problems, Romanian! Gen. Liu has decided to proliferate 40 Hong-8 medium stealth bombers and 80 stealth J-12 multirole fighters to PRC China along with a donation of this year's annual income (0.5 million Sinoese Yuan) to his new found ally for dealing against this subhuman threat.

General Liu would like to demonstrate the stength of Sino to the PRC Chinese leaders (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1703846&highlight=#1703846)

We have already see the strength of our new friend Sino's military, and we are quite impressed with it.

As a defensive move I am donating 20 B-4b's and 300 Su-30MKR's to Taiwan

Go deal with your post-Cold War economic problems, Romanian! Gen. Liu has decided to proliferate 40 Hong-8 medium stealth bombers and 80 stealth J-12 multirole fighters to PRC China along with a donation of this year's annual income (0.5 million Sinoese Yuan) to his new found ally for dealing against this subhuman threat.
Thank you, these aircraft will be put into good use.

We will wire 48 Billion Yuan right now, as a courtesy.

Go deal with your post-Cold War economic problems, Romanian!

Um, economic troubles?


Free Rumania Gross Domestic Product

Population: 542,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $18,970,000,000,000
National Budget: $10,153,654,560,000


Didn't chaiman Mao teach you how to read?

The Agrigentian Navy's Second Fleet is en-route to act as a peacekeeping force. It's agenda is to stabilise hostilities in the region by creating a counter-weight neutral force.


The Second Fleet:
1 AGF-3 class Command Ship "Capo del Mare"
3 Arsenal Ships
2 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ships
4 Uccellino del Mare class Aircraft Carriers
4 Andrea Doria Class Aircraft Carriers
5 MHC-51 Osprey Class Coastal Mine Hunters
5 PHM-1 Pegasus Class Hydrofoil Boats
12 DDG-993 Kidd-class destroyers
16 CG-47 Ticonderoga class Cruisers
28 DDG-51 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
21 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
6 T-AE 26 Kilauea class Ammunition ships
2 AO-177 Cimarron class fleet oilers
3 LHA-1 Tarawa class Ship carrying 1,000 Marines each, plus combat equipment
1 LHD-1 Wasp class Ship with 6 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines along with LAVs and supplies will also be sent

The Fifth Submarine Force:
12 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
7 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
4 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

The Third Submarine Force:
22 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
8 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

Sino requests that 3 of her nuclear submarine squadrons are to be placed in Chinese section of the Taiwan strait. Each squadron is to be supported by a Xia-II nuclear missile sub carrying 20 JL-2 (Ju Lang) SLBMs.

By the way, the WS-1Bs (http://www.sinodefence.com/army/artillery/mlrs/ws1b.asp) are being shipped out. The aircraft can be flown to PRC China in a matter of hours.

OOC: Who is the leader of PRC China?
IC: If it is Jiang Zemin, I'll knee him in the balls when I arrive in Beijing. LOL! (Yes, for being a corruptor).

General Liu would like to demonstrate the stength of Sino to the PRC Chinese leaders (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1703846&highlight=#1703846)

Haha, cute toys. Should you be foolish enough to attack Taiwan I'll show you a REAL military in action.

The Haaregradian vessels will hail the vessels from Agrigento when they are within range.

Go deal with your post-Cold War economic problems, Romanian!

Um, economic troubles?


Free Rumania Gross Domestic Product

Population: 542,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $18,970,000,000,000
National Budget: $10,153,654,560,000


Didn't chaiman Mao teach you how to read?

Chairman Mao is responsible for my hatred of you the communist subhumans.

Sino Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,191,000,000
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $41,685,000,000,000
National Budget: $11,344,989,600,000

Go deal with your post-Cold War economic problems, Romanian!

Um, economic troubles?


Free Rumania Gross Domestic Product

Population: 542,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $18,970,000,000,000
National Budget: $10,153,654,560,000


Didn't chaiman Mao teach you how to read?

Chairman Mao is responsible for my hatred of you the communist subhumans.

Sino Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,191,000,000
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $41,685,000,000,000
National Budget: $11,344,989,600,000
Your point?

Xerlox Gross Domestic Product

Population: 2,074,000,000
Civil Rights: Below Average
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $72,590,000,000,000
National Budget: $31,280,482,800,000

Sino requests that 3 of her nuclear submarine squadrons are to be placed in Chinese section of the Taiwan strait. Each squadron is to be supported by a Xia-II nuclear missile sub carrying 20 JL-2 (Ju Lang) SLBMs.

By the way, the WS-1Bs (http://www.sinodefence.com/army/artillery/mlrs/ws1b.asp) are being shipped out. The aircraft can be flown to PRC China in a matter of hours.

OOC: Who is the leader of PRC China?
IC: If it is Jiang Zemin, I'll knee him in the balls when I arrive in Beijing. LOL! (Yes, for being a corruptor).

Request approved, thank you very much.

Our President is Hu Jintao, not the Jiang Zemin human scum previously inside our Chinese Communist Party.

The Agrigentian Navy's Second Fleet is en-route to act as a peacekeeping force. It's agenda is to stabilise hostilities in the region by creating a counter-weight neutral force.


The Second Fleet:
1 AGF-3 class Command Ship "Capo del Mare"
3 Arsenal Ships
2 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ships
4 Uccellino del Mare class Aircraft Carriers
4 Andrea Doria Class Aircraft Carriers
5 MHC-51 Osprey Class Coastal Mine Hunters
5 PHM-1 Pegasus Class Hydrofoil Boats
12 DDG-993 Kidd-class destroyers
16 CG-47 Ticonderoga class Cruisers
28 DDG-51 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
21 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
6 T-AE 26 Kilauea class Ammunition ships
2 AO-177 Cimarron class fleet oilers
3 LHA-1 Tarawa class Ship carrying 1,000 Marines each, plus combat equipment
1 LHD-1 Wasp class Ship with 6 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines along with LAVs and supplies will also be sent

The Fifth Submarine Force:
12 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
7 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
4 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

The Third Submarine Force:
22 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
8 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

Stay out off our affairs. This is a matter to be decided by the Chinese-speaking peoples. Go mind your own business.

Stay out off our affairs. This is a matter to be decided by the Chinese-speaking peoples. Go mind your own business.

My nation has fought the Mallbertan Imperialists to save Chinese Speaking people from extinction at the hands of his Mallnet Hives...do not tell me where to place my affairs. My men have died on Chinese soil defending it from the new mongolian menace. Are you going to dig up there bodies and kick them out as well?

Xinhua News Agency--

At October 12, 2003, the Chinese People's Liberation Army, for security puproses, has begin to conduct several cruise missile testings near the Taiwan Strait. Reportly the cruise missiles are CSSC-2 and CSSC-3 anti-ship missiles, but can also be used for ground-to-ground role.

In other news, live amphibious landing exercises and live ammunition artillery firing exercises are also being conducted on the coast.

That is all.

OOC: For infomational puproses, it is now Omz222 who is controlling PRC China. The origional owner seems to be out of NS.

OOC: Fazza: your point is?

Sino requests that 3 of her nuclear submarine squadrons are to be placed in Chinese section of the Taiwan strait. Each squadron is to be supported by a Xia-II nuclear missile sub carrying 20 JL-2 (Ju Lang) SLBMs.

By the way, the WS-1Bs (http://www.sinodefence.com/army/artillery/mlrs/ws1b.asp) are being shipped out. The aircraft can be flown to PRC China in a matter of hours.

OOC: Who is the leader of PRC China?
IC: If it is Jiang Zemin, I'll knee him in the balls when I arrive in Beijing. LOL! (Yes, for being a corruptor).

Request approved, thank you very much.

Our President is Hu Jintao, not the Jiang Zemin human scum previously inside our Chinese Communist Party.

OOC: I am still suspicious of commies and the CCP, but rest assured, names are ambigious.

Stay out off our affairs. This is a matter to be decided by the Chinese-speaking peoples. Go mind your own business.

My nation has fought the Mallbertan Imperialists to save Chinese Speaking people from extinction at the hands of his Mallnet Hives...do not tell me where to place my affairs. My men have died on Chinese soil defending it from the new mongolian menace. Are you going to dig up there bodies and kick them out as well?

Just stay away from our affairs, we do not require peacekeeping. I am sure that when you have a civil war, you do not want foreign intervention.

Chairman Mao is responsible for my hatred of you the communist subhumans.

WTF are you talking about? I'm a capitalist paradis

Xerlox would like to inform you that once it's fleets arrive any cruise missile which comes within 45km of Taiwan's shores will be destroyed.

ETA: 3 days

For defensive puproses, we will now remove all ballistic missile TELs, ground cruise missile launchers, and long-range artillery from the coast of southeast China.

They will all be moved to northeast China, for various puproses, instead.

We think our show of force is completed.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

Just stay away from our affairs, we do not require peacekeeping. I am sure that when you have a civil war, you do not want foreign intervention.

I will not standby and see the unity created during that war, between the people of Taiwan and Mainland China destroyed. East Islandia feels the same way.

We think our show of force is completed.
Little one, a show of force is sweeping into a country with 50,000 tanks. What you did was more like shooting spitballs at a battleship

How about moving PRC China to our region of United China?

On other matters, if war does occur, General Liu is willing to move his 33-year-old body to help in the field, as commander of course. Gen. Liu hasn't fired his Type 88-II (7.62x51mm) sniper rifle on the enemy for at least two years now, but once again, there will be blood drying on his bayonet...

We think our show of force is completed.
Little one, a show of force is sweeping into a country with 50,000 tanks. What you did was more like shooting spitballs at a battleship

We think what we did is a testing of our consistancy and effectiveness of our CSSC-3 cruise missile, instead of what you described as "shooting spitballs at a battleship".

Regarding the United China issue, we would be glad to join, to warm our relationships between both Sino and _Taiwan.

We think what we did is a testing of our consistancy and effectiveness of our CSSC-3 cruise missile, instead of what you described as "shooting spitballs at a battleship".
Unless you test them on the enemy it ain't squat.

We think what we did is a testing of our consistancy and effectiveness of our CSSC-3 cruise missile, instead of what you described as "shooting spitballs at a battleship".
Unless you test them on the enemy it ain't squat.
Testing on the enemy is an act of war, isn't it?

And of course, we aren't dumb enough to declare an outwar on _Taiwan. That would be a... waste of resources for the current situation.

You mean you're only up to the Seersucker missile? :?

You mean you're only up to the Seersucker missile? :?

Our Seersuckers and the older CSSC-2 Silkworm are at least powerful enough to avoid a Patriot's radar view.

power has nothing to do with radar detection, only size, shape, and altitude. The patriot isn't exactly the best system, either. the THAAD and S-400's are better. But consider the Searsucker is a ship attack missile it doesn't matter. I have my own systems onboard my ships(and aircraft)...

Not to mention the CSS-C-3 only has a >70% hit probability

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

power has nothing to do with radar detection, only size, shape, and altitude. The patriot isn't exactly the best system, either. the THAAD and S-400's are better. But consider the Searsucker is a ship attack missile it doesn't matter. I have my own systems onboard my ships(and aircraft)...

Not to mention the CSS-C-3 only has a >70% hit probability

Of course, we also have a stockpile of the SS-N-22 Sunburn missiles for use on our Sovremenny Class Destroyers.

OOC: True, the Patriot isn't that much effective against the Scuds in Gulf War II and III anyways.. and the Iraqis did use the Seersucker effectivelly in attacks on Kuwaiti targets.

[ Iraqis did use the Seersucker effectivelly in attacks on Kuwaiti targets.
when was this?

[ Iraqis did use the Seersucker effectivelly in attacks on Kuwaiti targets.
when was this?

OOC: Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Although it is not 100% success on all targets, it did hit some.

[ Iraqis did use the Seersucker effectivelly in attacks on Kuwaiti targets.
when was this?

OOC: Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Although it is not 100% success on all targets, it did hit some.
what exactly did they hit with them?

what exactly did they hit with them?
OOC: It did land awfully near its target.

IC:

To resolve this entire confusion, we would like to have some talks with the government in Taiwan Province, if necessary.

We hope our relationship with _Taiwan later could improve, therefore promoting a true United China.

In good will, we now terminate all exercises near the islands on Taiwan Strait, to promote the safety of all Chinese both on the Mainland, Hong Kong and Macao, and Taiwan Province.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

With the PRC withdrawing, the Second Fleet, and its associated Submarine Forces are to return home.

Stay out off our affairs. This is a matter to be decided by the Chinese-speaking peoples. Go mind your own business.

My nation has fought the Mallbertan Imperialists to save Chinese Speaking people from extinction at the hands of his Mallnet Hives...do not tell me where to place my affairs. My men have died on Chinese soil defending it from the new mongolian menace. Are you going to dig up there bodies and kick them out as well?

Just stay away from our affairs, we do not require peacekeeping. I am sure that when you have a civil war, you do not want foreign intervention.

Let the people of Agrigento help; they are great allies of our people and have aided us in many a conflict.

With the ending of the crisis, the Patriot units deployed near cities have pulled back. Chinese citizens supsected of being spies for the mainland are released and given $40,000 compensation. We would like to thank all our allies who have helped to ease intra-strait tensions.

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.

Sino's fleets and forces will remain in Chinese territorial waters until all threts on the Chinese have ceased.

This issue has struck ATA into this. ATA's National Race is Chinese and American. We will not let this issue come to us.


WARNING
Whoever tempts me to use ATA WMD, we will use it. China and Chinese Army does not attack Taiwan. Taiwan is offically part of China, but ruled over a different Gov't.

The Chinese Army holds back and may tempted to attack PRC China.

The Airforce has been dispatched and Navy.

This issue has struck ATA into this. ATA's National Race is Chinese and American. We will not let this issue come to us.


WARNING
Whoever tempts me to use ATA WMD, we will use it. China and Chinese Army does not attack Taiwan. Taiwan is offically part of China, but ruled over a different Gov't.

We find your willingness to use WMDs.....distrubing to say the least. Agrigento's policy on WMDs has always been that they are only for use as retaliation, and even though we do not support Chinese aggression into Taiwan we loath to see the use of Nuclear, Biological, or Chemical weaponry against either country.

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.
What the hell is wrong with you, are you some sort of asian supremacist?

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.

Muthafukah say what? Jus' watch wha' you say 'fore I slap yo punk ass.
______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
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RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

OOC: Wow, that's an unusual minister of foreign affairs.

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.
What the hell is wrong with you, are you some sort of asian supremacist?

Not an Asian supremacist. I'm a Chinese Nationalist. I believe in unificationist nationalism. My nationalism is inspired by Hitler's (I am not a Nazi, racist or anti-Semite), if Hitler thinks that all Germanic peoples should be united then so should all Chinese-speaking peoples.

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.

Muthafukah say what? Jus' watch wha' you say 'fore I slap yo punk ass.
______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

Only an anarchist would react like that. So, your .45s versus my QSZ-92 9mm's?

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.

Muthafukah say what? Jus' watch wha' you say 'fore I slap yo punk ass.


Only an anarchist would react like that. So, your .45s versus my QSZ-92 9mm's?

Or mah TEC-9s or an AK, I don't care, I'ma gonna make yo blood spray!

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

The Chinese Army holds back and may tempted to attack PRC China.

The Airforce has been dispatched and Navy.

If you want a good attack, attack to cheeky separatist bastards in Taiwan.

The Haaregradian HNS Fidel Castro battlegroup will not leave for China, instead it will remain situated to the east of Socialist Paradise.

Get away from our waters unless you want trouble, degenerate.

Muthafukah say what? Jus' watch wha' you say 'fore I slap yo punk ass.


Only an anarchist would react like that. So, your .45s versus my QSZ-92 9mm's?

Or mah TEC-9s or an AK, I don't care, I'ma gonna make yo blood spray!

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

Very well, Negro. *Thinks about which sniper rifle to pick, the USMC M40A3 or the PLA Type 88*

Or maybe a Chinese Type 95 (5.8X42mm) assault rifle (makes the AKs look like a piece of camel dung).

OOC: I laughed my ass off over 'negro'

How be you drop yo gat and I jus' leave you toothless.

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

The Chinese Army holds back and may tempted to attack PRC China.

The Airforce has been dispatched and Navy.
OOC: That's all?

OOC: I laughed my ass off over 'negro'

How be you drop yo gat and I jus' leave you toothless.

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

OOC: Dammit! Leant to speak proper English. I'd probably need a special translator to understand your pidgin.

IC: I'll make sure you're toothless with a good old series of pistol whipings to the cheeks and lips. 9mms always do that trick.

OOC: I laughed my ass off over 'negro'

How be you drop yo gat and I jus' leave you toothless.

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

Dammit! Leant to speak proper English. I'd probably need a special translator to understand your pidgin.

OOC: Read my non-Eazy E posts, they're normal, I just gotta be in character for Eazy

OOC: I laughed my ass off over 'negro'

How be you drop yo gat and I jus' leave you toothless.

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

Dammit! Leant to speak proper English. I'd probably need a special translator to understand your pidgin.

OOC: Read my non-Eazy E posts, they're normal, I just gotta be in character for Eazy

Cut that U.S. black gangster crap. Don't make me come down there and shove that drill cane up your ass!

OOC: Be quiet down there you Cheekie commies! (For a better explanation, search for paul holmes)

OOC: Eazy E is a US black gangsta... anyways, what a better FM then an obnoixious criminal, it's oh so very ironic.

Strongly support PRC's actions and will fight to defend it.

OOC: The whole thing's already over now....

OOC: Be quiet down there you Cheekie commies! (For a better explanation, search for paul holmes)

I'm more capitalist than you, Chen! Besides, I am a nationalist, not a commie. As to the black gangster over there:Haha! A black Ivan!

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

The President of the Commonwealth, under the powers entrusted in him as the Executive Admiral of the Commonwealth Armed Forces, has sent 200 Marines to guard the Commonwealth Embassy in Taiwan. In addition, the aircraft carrier Beira, with 30 fighter jets on board, has arrives in the region in order to diffuse the situation. The carrier is in Condition 2 (Active, ready for action status) and will raise its status to Condition 1 if PRC or Taiwanese fighter jets crosses the Taiwan Straits meridian.

The Commonwealth Government, with its intention to stabilize the situation, is setting up a summit meeting in Boa Vista in order to settle the differences between the nations. PRC and Taiwanese leaders are invited to the summit.

Sincerely
Joao Ferreira
Presidential Minister for Public Relations
The Commonwealth of Boa Vista

(ooc: NWA rocks...)

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

The President of the Commonwealth, under the powers entrusted in him as the Executive Admiral of the Commonwealth Armed Forces, has sent 200 Marines to guard the Commonwealth Embassy in Taiwan. In addition, the aircraft carrier Beira, with 30 fighter jets on board, has arrives in the region in order to diffuse the situation. The carrier is in Condition 2 (Active, ready for action status) and will raise its status to Condition 1 if PRC or Taiwanese fighter jets crosses the Taiwan Straits meridian.

The Commonwealth Government, with its intention to stabilize the situation, is setting up a summit meeting in Boa Vista in order to settle the differences between the nations. PRC and Taiwanese leaders are invited to the summit.

Sincerely
Joao Ferreira
Presidential Minister for Public Relations
The Commonwealth of Boa Vista

The Armed Republic of Sino also requires a place at the summit.

[Posting for PRC China]

We thank Boa Vista's attention to our problem, and we will send a delegate to the nertual territory to negotiate.

(ooc: NWA rocks...)

OOC: Yes, yes they do. :)

陳水貶 希望自幾個人產家這個會。

Chen Shui Bian will attend this meeting personally.

From: The Office of Protector Jee Leng Tan

To: PRC China

Subject: Support for Mainland China's Actions.

Text:

The country of C-G stands ready to support almost any actions taken by PRC China. Our population, which is 53% Chinese, mostly from the mainland, stands behind the government in support on this.

My Prime Minister, Stanley Ipkiss does also agree with this decision. We, Canada-Germany, would like to open Dipomatic relations with you as well.

OOC: Wow, how did 53% of the population become chinese? Immigration?

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

The President of the Commonwealth, under the powers entrusted in him as the Executive Admiral of the Commonwealth Armed Forces, has sent 200 Marines to guard the Commonwealth Embassy in Taiwan. In addition, the aircraft carrier Beira, with 30 fighter jets on board, has arrives in the region in order to diffuse the situation. The carrier is in Condition 2 (Active, ready for action status) and will raise its status to Condition 1 if PRC or Taiwanese fighter jets crosses the Taiwan Straits meridian.

The Commonwealth Government, with its intention to stabilize the situation, is setting up a summit meeting in Boa Vista in order to settle the differences between the nations. PRC and Taiwanese leaders are invited to the summit.



Sincerely
Joao Ferreira
Presidential Minister for Public Relations
The Commonwealth of Boa Vista

=(
ahh no summit at my place then?
Fine, then we'll go to yours. If you want us to come.

陳水貶 希望自幾個人產家這個會。

Chen Shui Bian will attend this meeting personally.

If Chen that traitor's dog attends that meeting, so will General Liu. Do I have to personally disarm before entering the conference area? *One hand over each sidearm*

From: The Office of Protector Jee Leng Tan

To: PRC China

Subject: Support for Mainland China's Actions.

Text:

The country of C-G stands ready to support almost any actions taken by PRC China. Our population, which is 53% Chinese, mostly from the mainland, stands behind the government in support on this.

My Prime Minister, Stanley Ipkiss does also agree with this decision. We, Canada-Germany, would like to open Dipomatic relations with you as well.

Are the Chinese there, by any chance (ultra-)nationalistic?

OOC: Wow, how did 53% of the population become chinese? Immigration?
that's alot of fukin immigrants

From: The Office of Protector Jee Leng Tan

To: PRC China

Subject: Support for Mainland China's Actions.

Text:

The country of C-G stands ready to support almost any actions taken by PRC China. Our population, which is 53% Chinese, mostly from the mainland, stands behind the government in support on this.

My Prime Minister, Stanley Ipkiss does also agree with this decision. We, Canada-Germany, would like to open Dipomatic relations with you as well.

Are the Chinese there, by any chance (ultra-)nationalistic?

Yes. But not to the point of unreason; we dont take everything for granted and uphold only our banner. THat is, if we're invited to the conference.

OOC: Wow, how did 53% of the population become chinese? Immigration?
that's alot of fukin immigrants

OOC: not all immagrents, some were born there, but ya's know.. we chinese can breed like Bunnies if we want too, lol.

OOC: Wow, how did 53% of the population become chinese? Immigration?
that's alot of fukin immigrants

OOC: not all immagrents, some were born there, but ya's know.. we chinese can breed like Bunnies if we want too, lol.

Are these Chinese, nationalistic about their people/race and culture?

OOC: not all immagrents, some were born there, but ya's know.. we chinese can breed like Bunnies if we want too, lol.

The Chinese 'Howitzers' always does the trick!
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/artillery/tubeartillery/203_1.jpg

OOC: You folks will just have to excuse my sometimes vulgar sense of humour.

OOC: Wow, how did 53% of the population become chinese? Immigration?
that's alot of fukin immigrants

OOC: not all immagrents, some were born there, but ya's know.. we chinese can breed like Bunnies if we want too, lol.

Are these Chinese, nationalistic about their people/race and culture?

If you are Chinese, join my region!

OOC: The chinese are proud of their asian harritage. Most of them think that Taiwan is filled with a buch of whiners, lol.

As the only person from Hong Kong in my mainly taiwanese church, I can agree with that.