NationStates Jolt Archive


Screwing with the balance of power: A war-winning weapon.

Xanthal
13-10-2003, 01:53
The Empire of Xanthal has developed for the first time a compact missile able to hit targets out of dimensional phase with a Xanthalian ship. This means that now Xanthalian fleet vessels can fire upon enemies with near immunity. This greatly shifts the balance of power in the universe in the Xanthalians' favor. The new missile types are highly expensive however (about 30,000 times the cost of a normal Xanthalian antimatter missile), so they can not be widely manufactured. Nonetheless, those that are created will give a massive advantage in battle to the vessels they are allocated to. The missiles pose an especially large danger because they can be phase-altered at any point in their flight, thus making it possible for them to bypass virtually all known shields and armor to get to their targets. The missiles fire in phase with the vessel firing them, and then initiate a re-aligning burst that can be preprogrammed or remotely engaged at any time, at which point they realign with normal space and detonate.
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 01:54
OOC: By the way, this weapon type is based entirely on existing Xanthalian technology, so no cries about me creating new unfair technologies. You all had plenty of time to object to or ignore the original tech.
13-10-2003, 02:01
Since "cost" is a relatively irrelevant drawback in this place. Don't you think it's a rather boring weapon to RP ?
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 03:29
Um... No. At first it'll rule. Then I'll get bored and not use it much. Probably. Anyway, I threw the cost thing in there just so people know I won't be throwing them around indiscriminately.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
13-10-2003, 03:40
OOC: How fast is it?
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 03:41
Just as fast as a standard Xanthalian torpedo, about 10,000 kilometers per hour. It's variable though.
13-10-2003, 03:50
We congratulate you Xanthal on this achievement...Butdo be extremely careful when using it.
Menelmacar
13-10-2003, 04:18
In other news, Menelmacar has developed shields which are simultaneously active in all known dimensions and phase-states. However, the power requirements for these devices are prohibitive, and likely they will therefore see limited, short-burst use in battle.

OOC: Just in case. 8)

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Menelmacar
13-10-2003, 04:18
In other news, Menelmacar has developed shields which are simultaneously active in all known dimensions and phase-states. However, the power requirements for these devices are prohibitive, and likely they will therefore see limited, short-burst use in battle.

OOC: Just in case. 8)

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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Xanthal
13-10-2003, 04:23
Menelmacar: Admirable. But ineffective. You'll have no way of knowing when to use them. Relax, I like you anyway. You fight for the civil rights of all species, and that's something we all should do. In Xanthal sentience is defined very broadly, and all sentients are equal in society and the eyes of the law.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
13-10-2003, 04:28
Just as fast as a standard Xanthalian torpedo, about 10,000 kilometers per hour. It's variable though.

Yay... I can dodge it.
Aelosia
13-10-2003, 04:33
This was the kind of stuff that made me ignore you, Xanthal. As a matter of fact, I still consider you a good RPer, "but", your technology is just godmodding.

- Phasing fleets that recieves no damage (including damage from undetectable weapons)

- Destroying Warp space?

- And now, missiles that can hit spaceships wothout retribution from another dimension
The Eastern Bloc
13-10-2003, 04:38
Menelmacar: Admirable. But ineffective. You'll have no way of knowing when to use them. Relax, I like you anyway. You fight for the civil rights of all species, and that's something we all should do. In Xanthal sentience is defined very broadly, and all sentients are equal in society and the eyes of the law.

Would it be an inability to detect the missile because of its extra-dimensional capability?
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 04:39
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata: You'd be surprised how difficult it is to dodge a weapon that you can't even detect until it's phasing into reality smack dab in the middle of your ship.

Aelosia: Technology is wonderful, ain't it? Well, it's always your decision, but if I were you I'd just get some awesome guns of your own. Future tech. doesn't have to make sense. If it did, nobody would even travel faster than light, let alone be able to teleport, use phasers, or any number of other things. What's the difference if you take the next step into superweapons? People just don't like it because they don't like getting beat up on. Something should not be ignored merely because it's too powerful.
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 04:40
Would it be an inability to detect the missile because of its extra-dimensional capability?Yeah. Unless you have a specific type of sensors that to my knowledge only I have as yet in this game. Which doesn't mean you can't develop them. Just involve some actual RP with it.
Menelmacar
13-10-2003, 06:57
Menelmacar: Admirable. But ineffective. You'll have no way of knowing when to use them. Relax, I like you anyway. You fight for the civil rights of all species, and that's something we all should do. In Xanthal sentience is defined very broadly, and all sentients are equal in society and the eyes of the law.
Sure we would... whenever we fight you. ;)

Anyway, yeah. That's true. But you did also try to steal territory from a member of CENNA. (I'm referring to Aelosia)

~Siri
13-10-2003, 07:13
Dimensional phase? Missiles that use anti-matter warheads? Just to contain a few microgrammes of anti-matter which wouldn't significantly add to the damage output except in terms of gamma-ray generation (Oh no! Anyone of my crew not in something massive that is shielded from radiation - like - say - a spaceship will never breed! Oh no!), that torpedo will be giving off a big enough electromagnetic field for it to guaranteed give off emissions in the four visible dimensions.

Besides, what is the point of creating something that hits any of the six (or twenty two, I won't get hasty here) folded spaces when they're affected by normal things anyway?

Governments put entirely too much trust in technology that sounds good, and is in fact ... pointless.

~ Non-random scornfest from someone somewhere within the Menelmacari Prefecture of Science
Wazzu
13-10-2003, 07:34
Dimensional phase? Missiles that use anti-matter warheads? Just to contain a few microgrammes of anti-matter which wouldn't significantly add to the damage output except in terms of gamma-ray generation (Oh no! Anyone of my crew not in something massive that is shielded from radiation - like - say - a spaceship will never breed! Oh no!), that torpedo will be giving off a big enough electromagnetic field for it to guaranteed give off emissions in the four visible dimensions.

Besides, what is the point of creating something that hits any of the six (or twenty two, I won't get hasty here) folded spaces when they're affected by normal things anyway?

Governments put entirely too much trust in technology that sounds good, and is in fact ... pointless.

~ Non-random scornfest from someone somewhere within the Menelmacari Prefecture of Science

Nearby and listening in, The Cardboard Avenger thinks to himself, score 5 trillian for science!
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 17:26
Whispering Voices: I've told you before that our tech. uses different dimensions than you apparently know of. There are infinate dimensions, and infinate layers of space.
Wazzu
13-10-2003, 17:29
Whispering Voices: I've told you before that our tech. uses different dimensions than you apparently know of. There are infinate dimensions, and infinate layers of space.

*Thwaps Xanthal over the head with a stack of theoretical physics books*

Too much hearsay, not enough science.

Maybe in YOUR universe there are "infanite dimensions, and infinate dimensions of space." That doesn't mean everyone has to except YOUR universe.
Sketch
13-10-2003, 17:45
stuff............Future tech doesn't have to make sense..............more stuff

I beg to differ. If future tech didn't have to make sense than no one here would be justified in making so called "god mod" calls on n00bs {as it were} that the NS collective is so fond of doing. "Multi-dimensional <insert more crap>" technology is a load of balony. Your new tech is the equivilent of the coveted ass-space. It also greatly disappoints me that Menelmacar would condone such a blatant violation of "realism", being the elite RPer(s) that she and her respective crowd are.
13-10-2003, 17:47
There are ten, or (possible but unlikely) 26 dimensions to the best of our ability to determine. Not 'infinite'.
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 18:05
Wazzu: Absolutely correct. We all have different theories on the nature of the universe. Others may RP with it however they wish.

Sketch: You are overly narrow-minded. Who are you to say that there are not infinate dimensions? Your opinion is one thing, fact is another. The truth is that if you truly believe all future technology needs to make sense, you'll have to severely downgrade your own capabilities. And tell all the Star Trek RPers that too, along with those who take after almost every other Sci-Fi program. Almost none of it is proven, and much of it is theoretically impossible.

Whispering Voices: Well, as I've said, you're free to RP it however you wish.
13-10-2003, 18:11
We are?

Whispering Voices is pleased to announce the discovery of the "Anti-Xanthion". Coming from a dimension near you, simply opening (via the means of a bipolar electromagnetic field with trapped Heaviside energy) an entrance into the dimension that contains 'Xanthions', 'Xanthions' will exit said dimension and be attracted - for an unknown reason - to everything produced by the nation of Xanthal and merge with it, causing a massive and explosive release of Xanthalic energy (approximately equal to a hundred thousand nova bomb results, although the energy falls off at a rate of its cube, so only covers about thirty three kilometres in every direction). Assorted scientists have declared it "magic", "fantastic", and "what the hell? Why on earth would such a stupid particle exist?"

Fortunately, there is no dimension filled with "Whispering Voicions", as it appears to have been vacuumed up. The very last Voicion in the universe was released under laboratory conditions and blew itself up. They appear to be irreplacable and non-replicable.
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 18:15
Whispering Voices: OOC: Heh. I admire your ability to improvise.
IC: Xanthal has moved to a dimension identical to that of it's current location, yet one where 'Xanthions' are unable to exist. A strange and unexpected side effect to this is that Whispering Voices can't exist there either. Further study is needed.
Sketch
13-10-2003, 18:18
You are right, I am not one to say that there isn't an "infinite" amount of dimensions. I'm also not one to say that the crap that flies in NS should be grounded. But for "respected" RPers to openly imbrace something as absurd as this AND STILL feel the right to call n00bs on god modding is ridiculous. Just because one "researched" something or spnet a "long time developing" something does not mean that they have the right to produce some kind of ridiculously asstastic super duper do all device.

If that were so, then I could go start a thread about creating "God", come back two days later and declare a success. Then proceed to run around on the forums being "God." By all rights, according to the current justification of far-fetched "technology", that "God" RP would have to be "recognized" since it was "RPed out." The fact that 90% of the NS players would outright ignore it or flame to death is unfortunately quite hypocritical {10% acceptance from all the n00bs running around}. I for one haven't claimed to "developed" God, "know" about multi-demensional ass-space, hell, I don't even have any gravtech research done yet.

I think you should review the facts. If it weren't for having to exclude myself from a great deal of RP, I would ignore all of space tech in general. I have already severely downgraded all my abilities, to the point of being walked all over by anyone who chooses to stop by with their "gravtech" or other kinds of black magic. So go ahead and disregard me, it bothers me not, we never interacted anyways.
13-10-2003, 18:26
If that were so, then I could go start a thread about creating "God", come back two days later and declare a success. Then proceed to run around on the forums being "God." By all rights, according to the current justification of far-fetched "technology", that "God" RP would have to be "recognized" since it was "RPed out."


*blushes and shuts up, hiding the cardboard atoms that used to be Kormanthor and Siagon behind him*
13-10-2003, 18:29
Whispering Voices: OOC: Heh. I admire your ability to improvise.
IC: Xanthal has moved to a dimension identical to that of it's current location, yet one where 'Xanthions' are unable to exist. A strange and unexpected side effect to this is that Whispering Voices can't exist there either. Further study is needed.

Whispering Voices is ecstatic that it no longer need bother with creating defences for weapons that cannot be stopped and work on bizarre theories.
Xanthal
13-10-2003, 22:31
Sketch: Well, since we obviously sit on two very different levels on this, I suggest you just ignore me and be done with it rather than turning the conversation into a flame war. You may have the last word here.

Whispering Voices: OOC: Glad we have an understanding, such as it is.
Sketch
13-10-2003, 22:41
Last word.....just to be spiteful :wink: