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Alright, this topic is to primarily serve as a guide to roleplayers as to which nation has claims to what real world territories, in case you wish to make some RP involving a RL territory. I've seen plenty of newbies take claim to RL nations in RP's, as recently as this afternoon. So hopefully this brings some rest to the problem.

The entire point of this topic is to make a clear cut sense of who controls what. If you're a nation which joined after July 31st, then your claim will be likely denied - because everything was taken by late May.

PLEASE GIVE PROOF TO YOUR CLAIMS!!!!!!!!! - post links to topics where you win or claimed the territories. Don't just bullshit and claim everything because you want to be cool and can.

I already remember some people having claims to regions, especially in the Americas. So there's already some information filled in. I'm particuarly interested in Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Europe.

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KEY - Nation - Claimed (Disputed)

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda - Drakonian Imperium
Argentina - Dark Terror
Armenia
Australia - Ecks Ecks Ecks Ecks, Australian Marsupials, Wombat News, Western Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas
Bahrain - Omz222
Bangladesh - United Indiastan
Barbados - Drakonian Imperium
Belarus
Belgium
Belize - Luporum (The Gulf States, Ruhr)
Benin
Bhutan
Bolivia - Dark Terror
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil - The Gulf States
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada - California and Alaska, The Gulf States, Brazillico
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
Chile - Ruhr
China - Menelmacar, Perfect China, Mallberta, Chimaea + others
Colombia - Ardor (Chimaea, Knootoss)
Comoros
Congo (Brazzaville)
Congo, Democratic Republic of - Menelmacar
Costa Rica - The Gulf States (Mishakal)
Croatia
Cuba - Drum Gods
Cyprus
Czech Republic - Crimmond
Côte d'Ivoire
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominica - Drakonian Imperium
Dominican Republic - The Gulf States
East Timor
Ecuador - Ruhr
Egypt
El Salvador - Luporum (The Gulf States, Ruhr)
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Fiji
Finland - Kvenland, Kraytia, Carelicum, Kekkosmaa
France
Gabon
Gambia
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Grenada
Guatemala - Luporum (The Gulf States, Ruhr)
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana - The Gulf States
Haiti
Honduras - Luporum (The Gulf States, Ruhr)
Hungary
Iceland
India - United Indiastan
Indonesia - Nianacio
Iran
Iraq - Drum Gods (Al Anbar)
Ireland
Israel - Western Asia
Italy
Jamaica - Dark Terror
Japan - Ravenspire
Jordan - Western Asia
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kiribati
Korea, North - North K0rea
Korea, South
Kuwait - Drum Gods
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Latvia
Lebanon - Western Asia
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg - Phantomieux
Macedonia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Mali
Malta
Marshall Islands
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mexico - California and Alaska, Luporum (The Gulf States, Ruhr)
Micronesia
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia - Mallberta
Morocco
Mozambique
Myanmar
Namibia
Nauru
Nepal
Netherlands - Knootoss
New Zealand - Ell
Nicaragua - Luporum (The Gulf States, Ruhr)
Niger
Nigeria
Norway
Oman
Pakistan - United Indiastan
Palau
Panama - Belem
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay - Dark Terror
Peru - Ruhr
Philippines
Poland - Crimmond, Pure Evil
Portugal - Sychronized
Qatar
Romania - Free Rumania
Russia
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis - Drakonian Imperium
Saint Lucia - Drakonian Imperium
Saint Vincent and The Grenadines - Drakonian Imperium
Samoa
San Marino
Sao Tome and Principe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia and Montenegro
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Slovakia - Crimmond
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Africa
Spain - Sychronized
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname - The Gulf States
Swaziland
Sweden - Wazzu
Switzerland
Syria - Western Asia (Al Anbar)
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Togo
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago - Drakonian Imperium
Tunisia
Turkey - Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
Turkmenistan
Tuvalu
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom

United States - Menelmacar, New York and Jersey, California and Alaska, Fantasan, Communist Ohio, (Ruhr, Flocarga and Delmarva)

Uruguay - Dark Terror (The Gulf States)
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Vatican City - neutral Catholic territory
Venezuela - The Gulf States
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe

French Guyana - The Gulf States
Greenland - Kalaallit Nunaat, Ness Ziona
Anguilla, Guadaloupe, Martinique - Drakonian Imperium

NZ is located (http://www.freewebs.com/nessziona/maps.htm) in Greenland. Please add it to the list.
Another link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=629400&highlight=#629400).
I searched and I didn't find another nation that claimed the area.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/ness_ziona.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/nessziona/index.htm)

the world belongs to me, i annex all the nations. :roll:

The Balkans (which includes all that was Yugoslavia and Albana) is a Synchronized Protectorate.

OOC: WOW, you even have me on there! Thanks!

Some other claims of mine (with links to pages that list claims by several other nations. Turkey is not an active claim as I've explained here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1794937#1794937) but most of the others are claimed and RP'd (when relevant).

A lot fo times I won't bother enforcing claims when it is not seen as pertient or necessary. I follow the belief that the 'NS Multiverse' exists to simplify life.

My current claims/bases/accesses (all claims):

Transshipment Points, Foreign Bases, and Controlled Areas:

Notes on Access Rights:
WA is generally very open about opening its bases and ports to friendly nations and some groups, like the Ur Trade Pact, have enhanced rights to house forces there with approval. The Zion Pact and Delta Triumvirate have pretty much open access to all WA bases and territories (secret facilities open to only Delta Trium with some top-level facilities opened on a special basis).

Areas Under WA Control:
- WA Main (Israel over to Jordan, into Lebanon…somewhat through to Syria...yes, I realize that a billion people don't fit here...):
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/is.html
Jordan (as a part of the WA domain)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=625775#625775
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/jo.html


- Turkey (Major Province (full citizen rights and complete governmental integration, Granted by Garrison): http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html
(See Garrison Euro Map)
Rights to limited airbases granted to Garrison.
Strategic portions: Dardanelles. Access rights: Liberated Asia


- SE Corner of Ellesmere Island (rest held by Spaam)
Mostly a Naval Way-station in the North Atlantic. Also includes airfields but a very limited number of personnel (Spaam controls the majority of the territory as we granted him the portion that was ours with the exception of the military facilities).
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=623396#623396


- A major part of Malta, "shared" with Garrison (see next category), so damn small that my naval base and civilian facilities make Malta effectively a province of WA.
Strategic Portions: central access to Europe and Mediterranean, as well as Atlantic ocean beyond.



Foreign Bases (Grants): (not necessarily whole territories)
- Malta: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mt.html
(See Garrison Euro Map)


- Australian Bases (from Mega Tau, in exchange for similar rights in WA…part of alliance deal)


- Liberated Asia: New Nippon (In exchange for landing and port rights with Liberated Asia as well as rights to free passage through the Dardanelles without issue):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=623914#623914


- Guam, Midway, and Wake Islands (granted from Fik, Matich has a naval station granted on Wake)…used to be Half of Guam (split with Fik, limited rights to port facilities on Midway and Wake Islands). NOTE: California and Alaska has open port rights to land, refuel, and resupply at any of these bases.

Mainly bases for forward deployed Grand Fleets and Naval Strike Teams.

Use aerial and naval resupplies to establish stores of oil, ammunition, provisions, and spare parts. Each hosts an airwing or two, a marine garrison, and a small naval defensive force (mostly smaller patrol craft). Civilian populations are a mix of natives of the islands (given full civilian rights of Western Asia, with additional semiautonomous governing rights to allow for a concentrated focus on local issues) and the families of soldiers based permanently at the camp (provided with full health and medical benefits, as are all citizens of these islands...in housing purchased by the government for the families. Education for all citizens on these territories is similarly provided at a high quality and no additional costs).
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40194&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gq.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mq.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/wq.html
NOTE: These islands have signed free trade agreements (limited tariffs) with a NAFTA group for trading in the northern parts of the western hemisphere.


- Camp Masada (too damn close to Arda :D). About 1100mi east from Melkor Unchained. A significant base with good facilities and natural/enhanced ports. During Melkor War served as a friendly base for Coalition forces. Now mostly abandoned although some forces from Coalition Allies of the Melkor War may remain.


Locations of Granted Port and Supply Loading Rights
Hudson River/NY area, open access in NY&NJ territory.

we claim Germany

we claim Germany

Got proof?

And WA, I saw your topic on the Al Anbar suicide bombings (PLA topic), so that's how I knew about you controlling Israel/Jordan/Syria/Lebanon.

I recognize these four players in Finland (and Kvenland in part of Sweden):

http://www.kolumbus.fi/g.rautio/kainuu3.gif

And here is the "old" Europe map, not entirely accurate:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/thessaloniki/European_Map-4.7.jpg

We have Baharin as our Baharin Province, since late July.

Ask ADK to confirm my claim.

I control Syria and Iraq. You can refer to the same thread that you did for WA's claims. It says it somewhere. Also http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77744&highlight=

here is the proof that I control the Balkans.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80414

Finally, found the proof for my claim of Baharin:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56530&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

We were considering admitting Barahin, but Omz222 may have it, as we trust them.

Updated upto this point.

Europe is gonna be fun to interpret, since there's about 3 different versions of maps.

Dude, why am I in brackets for my countries? I'm the main controller. Remove all others from my countries.

Note: Please list me as Omz222, there's already a nation called "Omz". Thanks.

Updated upto this point.

Europe is gonna be fun to interpret, since there's about 3 different versions of maps.

Thank you very much! 8)

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/ness_ziona.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/nessziona/index.htm)

If nobody claims Luxemborg as their country, I would like it.

Dude, why am I in brackets for my countries? I'm the main controller.

I'm going to quote this from the original post...

If you're a nation which joined after July 31st, then your claim will be likely denied - because everything was taken by late May.

Since you joined Sept. 27th, you can RP as Iraq and Syria. However, most people will recognize who claimed it before you. In this case, Drum Gods, Western Asia, and any others.

Like me for example, I'm an August 11th nation. I claim Florida upto Delaware along the coastline, but I'm relatively ignored because Menelmacar beat me out to it back in April. Hence why I'm in parentheses under the U.S.

These Balkan nations are the Protectorates of Synchronized.

Croatia
Serbia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Montenegro
Albania
Macedonia

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80414&start=0

romania

Personally I have my... compunctions... about anyone claiming control over a real nation (why? read below.), and thusly Carmarthen is not located in a "real" continent. As far as flavour goes it is like, say, Wales.

If Carmarthen must exist somewhere, then it's Wales (as Carmarthen is a Welsh city name).

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Why Carmarthen feels that claiming to control one or more real places is wrong:

1/ Real territories have real governments. They have real histories, real people and real technological time lines. Stuff around with that and anyone who wants to use it in their stories gets messed around. I beleive it means if you're playing something that controls a real place then your name should reflect that, your tech should reflect that and your position should reflect that. I mean if someone "claimed" Sydney and had elves or high tech running around and were rigid Communists I'd get pretty peeved because it in no way reflects the place accurately. If someome claimed Sydney I'd expect them to have at least visited, knew the policies of the Australian government and had attempted to get a nation that matched at least on the surface with the real Sydney, Australia.

2/ People who have been here longer start claiming territories left, right and centre. This might be fine by you, but in a year from now some new player is going to be rather peeved that his home country is owned by someone who really ticks him off. Yes, older players should have advantages (and do. By rights only older countries should have certain funds accessible) but that doesn't, IMO, give them carte blanche to control real places.

3/ Remember that operating FROM and CONTROLLING a territory are two very different things. So you want to be a middle eastern extremist... go ahead. Either invent your own nation or simply be a nation of people that exists in a current place but does not control the place. Yeah, it means you don't get to tax people, but it's the price you pay for basing yourself in the real world where other people have just as rightful a claim.

4/ People that control more than one territory. That's not only going against all the other stuff I've said up there but makes you just plain greedy, really. Why do you need five real countries under your control?!

Summary/ Be imaginative for heaven's sake and invent your own Nation. Base it near or next to or somesuch a real nation, but taking a real nation off the map is just greedy, selfish and causes continuity problems for other people.
I beleive that only a Mod or somesuch, a neutral party, should represent real world countries and territories and that players, if they want to set up a list of "bagsing" or "reserving" should get off the high horse and only claim their fake territory.
"Keep Sydney elf free!"

The "Devils Desert" region of which mainland Whispering Voices is a part is a giant crescent-moon landmass between Greenland and the Svalbard islands.

Whispering Voices has outposts on the Arctic circle (small ones, obviously), and some under the Arctic circle. It owns part of the Corpselands (large, Cuba-sized island south of the Ivory Coast of Africa), an island about 50km off the Dutch coast, and Madagascar (Walmington on Sea actually got Madagascar first, but since we're in different time periods he suggested I just have it as regards "future" time periods, subject to renegotiation if he hits the future).

I believe that Japan is part of Ravenspire's territory, and North Korea owns North Korea (oddly enough).

Ell has New Zealand, and there are several nations in Australia.

Steel Butterfly and puppets owns all of the Orion Sector, Constellation, Space, and Nebula

Yeap, NZ

Kalaallit Nunaat is the official (Inuktitut-langauge) name for Greenland. We control Greenland and take credit for driving Ziotah away from it, long years ago.

General Susan Aglukark
President of Greenland (Kalaallit Nunaat)

This is kinda dumb because everyone owns each country 3 times over.

Steel Butterfly and puppets owns all of the Orion Sector, Constellation, Space, and Nebula

Being that there are no (known) governments or populations inhabiting the Orion Sector of space...I see no problem with this...as it has been my claim for eternity

This is kinda dumb because everyone owns each country 3 times over.

Exactly why many people have left earth. The NS earth would have to be many times larger than jupiter for it to exist.

Or maybe the people are just really, really tiny versions of the human beings we are.

Um...Taiwan owns Taiwan?

I believe that Japan is part of Ravenspire's territory

Correct... a protectorate, to be more precise, though our "sphere of influence" is greatest in the Kyoto region. (OOC: I don't claim Tokyo, because I know hundreds of other people do. 8) )

I don't have a link to the original thread, though; it seems to have been deleted along with some other really old ones. In-continuity use can be found in the "Mallbertan Expansion (China)" thread and the "The People's Anthill Attacks Australia" thread, though. Neither of which I have URLs handy for, at the moment.

Hasn't this been tried before? Didn't it just turn into a big "Is not" "Is too" match?

Ilium.

romania is mine, fr00bs

romania is mine, fr00bs

Rejected.

I would just like to remind everyone:
1. GIVE F***ING PROOF OF YOUR CLAIMS.
2. This is for Earth countries which exist in real life, not solar systems or ancient empires. National boundaries - Oct. 12, 2003.
3. If you're newer than Sept. 1, you may as well not bother posting here.

be quiet, whoob

The Great Plain Alliance annexed South America back in May (RL).

When Ruhr was involved, it claimed the following:

Chile
Bolivia
Peru
Ecuador
Costa Rica
Honduras
Guatemala
Nicaragua
Surname
Guiana

We maintian military bases on all of these countries.

We maintian military bases on all of these countries.

Um Ruhr, Costa Rica was one of my original three - with Brazil and Venezuela.

Problem: many people claim many territories

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Solution: List all who have a valid (ie, previously RP'd) claim

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Implications of Solution:
Recognizes the problems/realities of the multiverse.*
Provides a full listing of players that are available for RL regional-based RPing.**
Acts as a database for later nations and as a site to collect claims to regions that is WITHOUT the normal squabbling.

*- Following a previously-described multiverse where many countries co-exist in the same location and recognition of certain claims is dependant upon the terms of the specific RP. Certain larger nations will RP with those territories more often and thus have a more weighty claim to the lands in an Open RP but other nations are not automatically refused claims. The exception being where some nations claim to control the entire world.

**- An example is the current Al Anbar-Ell-Eye Ran-WA-etc. conflict, where Al Anbar claims Iraq and Syria, Eye Ran claims RL Iran (and some other lands), and I (WA) claim Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon (temporarily setting aside my claims to parts of Syria for the sake of the RP). The interested countries were able to establish guidelines and come to an agreement about the condition of borders.

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As a note, Ruhr and Menelmacar established some sort of deal to share Florida. They could each probably tell you a bit more about it.

We maintian military bases on all of these countries.

Um Ruhr, Costa Rica was one of my original three - with Brazil and Venezuela.

You were not here in May when we took over South America, Costa Rica is mine.

Actually, Menelmacar and I discussed it and I was this (uses his fingers to show how close) close to getting Florida. However, after a few attempts and a CENNA application pending, Ruhr decided to give up its claims to Florida.

However, a deal is currently being made to station a new deal is being worked out to station a portion of the Atlantic Fleet in Florida. I will let you know how that works out.

-Ruhr-

We maintian military bases on all of these countries.

Um Ruhr, Costa Rica was one of my original three - with Brazil and Venezuela.

You were not here in May when we took over South America, Costa Rica is mine.

Shit. Wrong account.

I claim Luxembourg for it's French culture, but not actually being french. Also, I believe France is too much a country for me.

eye ran is in Iran, duh.

romania is mine, fr00bs

Rejected.

I would just like to remind everyone:
1. GIVE F***ING PROOF OF YOUR CLAIMS.

If you need proof just look at my countrie's name FFS!

I also hold the Congo, Democratic Republic of, (the one with Kinshasa as the capital) and the Chinese coastline from Shanghai down to Macau. I also took Kuwait in the war against Drum Gods a while back.

Mongolia is held by Mallberta.

India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan are held by United Indiastan.

As for the folks in parentheses, I suggest that given the oddly Lovecraftian nature of NS geography, that they simply hold parts of alternate versions of the same continents. That explanation's worked nicely for resolving disputes in the past.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
We Love the Iraqi Information Minister (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)
Clicky-clicky!

Poland and Czekloslokia have been the Crimmond Empire's home since it's conception in late March. I have been on the Western Europe regional map for almost that long.

I have RPed from there for the same amount of time and have been able to disprove the claims of others, like Communist Poland.

I have noticed that Pure Evil requested Poland be... Independant? I don't understand that, could you explain?

United States - Menelmacar, New York and Jersey, California and Alaska, Fantasan, Communist Ohio, (Ruhr, Flocarga and Delmarva)

Actually, as that partition is due to political upheaval in the US in 2017, and I RP my nation as being in 2003, I generally ignore stuff regarding the parititon.

That said, I do recognize NYNJ as independant of the USA in 2003.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyua

Australia is occupied by numerous countries - Ecks Ecks Ecks Ecks, Australian Marsupials, Wombat News, Western Australia amongst others for example (see recent thread where The Peoples Anthill attempted to take over our territories - see also the region Australia). New Zealand is similarly occupied by for example, amongst others, Ell.

WN

I claim the Netherlands because

-I have been RPing as it for quite a while now, or rather as a beefed up version of the Netherlands
-I am the elected UN delegate of the region of Nederland. (netherlands) That kinda is as good as they get in terms of claims I think. From an intra-regional prospect I am only a part of the nation, but in RP here I play as an adapted version the entire nation...

Note: Knootoss is kind of the Netherlands in an altered version of reality. Some things are different. See: www.knootoss.tk

The Greenland claim is the topic of most KN posts. For instance, the Gulf States/Canada thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32230&highlight=

It's also been posted without objection in Menelmacar annexes America threads and in many Ziotah threads, but Ziotah's posts have all been deleted.

Actually, as that partition is due to political upheaval in the US in 2017, and I RP my nation as being in 2003, I generally ignore stuff regarding the parititon.

That said, I do recognize NYNJ as independant of the USA in 2003.

I RP as in 2036, so I'm ignored by all of these people. These partitions would take place after you and me - so we're not quite affected.

Canadian Military Rule = Canada, Alaska

note: these can be an alternate Canada and Alaska...

Luxembourg is mine and has always been mine and will forever be mine.

Luxembourg is mine and has always been mine and will forever be mine.

Bump

OOC: Ok, so this thread has these "Does anybody own Zimbabve? If not, I'll take it" dudes. Those claims should be ignored.

Kekkosmaa has been located in Finland (southern Finland, actually) from the 18th of May (the day Kekkosmaa was created), and I've roleplayed it all the time. All the people here have Finnish names, they all speak Finnish, they have Finnish ideas and the politics are a bit like Finland's as well. I think this, or conquering an area FROM ANOTHER NS NATION is the only way to claim an area.

Why should it be conquere from another NS nation? Because I think attacking real areas is stupid. I mean, there's no way you can lose a war like that. And by claiming that area, you make it impossible for a later nation to claim that area, while, logically, those nations could have existed for years before that.. (Now that's a bit complicated, but for example:

Kekkosmaa invades Sweden in October (game year 2030)
A nation called the Real Swedes is formed in December, it's timeline goes like this:
2028: The Real Swedes declares independency

A small paradox, huh? And besides, where's the fun in invading rl regions? And you're usually supposed to rp with other people here, not something that doesn't really exist in NS..

And hey, explain me, why does Menelmacar claim America? :P Haven't yet found a reason for that..)

The Drakonian Imperium claims, Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, St. Vincent and the Grenadines and the rest of the Lesser Antilles.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

OOC: The rest of the holding of the Imperium are entire ficticious.

I also claim a BUMP!

OOC: Ok, so this thread has these "Does anybody own Zimbabve? If not, I'll take it" dudes. Those claims should be ignored.

Kekkosmaa has been located in Finland (southern Finland, actually) from the 18th of May (the day Kekkosmaa was created), and I've roleplayed it all the time. All the people here have Finnish names, they all speak Finnish, they have Finnish ideas and the politics are a bit like Finland's as well. I think this, or conquering an area FROM ANOTHER NS NATION is the only way to claim an area.

Why should it be conquere from another NS nation? Because I think attacking real areas is stupid. I mean, there's no way you can lose a war like that. And by claiming that area, you make it impossible for a later nation to claim that area, while, logically, those nations could have existed for years before that.. (Now that's a bit complicated, but for example:

Kekkosmaa invades Sweden in October (game year 2030)
A nation called the Real Swedes is formed in December, it's timeline goes like this:
2028: The Real Swedes declares independency

A small paradox, huh? And besides, where's the fun in invading rl regions? And you're usually supposed to rp with other people here, not something that doesn't really exist in NS..

And hey, explain me, why does Menelmacar claim America? :P Haven't yet found a reason for that..)
They were losing a civil war, badly. So they came to us and got protectoratified.

F&D, please update the charts, yes?
I should be listed as having Congo, Democratic Republic of.

~Siri

Kekk (sp.) - you've been listed in the Finland section since nearly the beginning.

Menel - added for Dem. Rep. Congo.

A few more updates made too.

Someone talked to me also about Trinidad and Tobago. But I don't remember who sent the TG. If you can still find the topic, reply.

The total extent of Californian claims are as follows...

the United States of Sovereign California is comprised of the following states:

Alberta - AL
Alaska - AK
Arkansas - AR
Arizona - AZ
Bahamas - BA
Bermuda - BE
Belgium - BG
Baja California - BJ
British Columbia - BC
California - CA
Colorado - CO
East Nevada/Utah - EN
Hawaii - HI
Idaho - ID
Kansas - KS
Louisiana - LA
Northern Ireland - NI
New Mexico - NM
Nevada - NV
Oklahoma - OK
Oregon - OR
Scotland - ST
Sonora - SN
Texas - TX
Washington - WA
Wyoming - WY
West Montana - WMt
Yukon Territory - YT

This is the total list of the United States of Sovereign California's land claims:

Afghanistan - AF
Algeria - AG
Cyprus - CP
Egypt - EG
Denmark - DM
Iceland - IC
Iran - IN
Libya - LB
Morocco - MR
Norway - NW
Oman - OM
Phillipines - PI
Saudi Arabia - SR
South Africa - SA
South Korea - SK
Sudan - SU
Taiwan - TW
Tunisia - TU
Yemen - YM
United Arab Emirates - UAE

The Drakonian Imperium claims:

Trinidad and Tobago,
Barbados,
St. Vincent and the Grenadines,
St. Lucia,
Martinique (formerly France),
Dominica,
Gaudaloupe (formerly France),
Antigua and Barbuda,
St. Kitts and Nevis,
and Anguilla (formerly U.K.).

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

OOC: The rest of the holding of the Imperium are entire ficticious.

The total extent of Californian claims are as follows...

the United States of Sovereign California is comprised of the following states:

Alberta - AL
Alaska - AK
Arkansas - AR
Arizona - AZ
Bahamas - BA
Bermuda - BE
Belgium - BG
Baja California - BJ
British Columbia - BC
California - CA
Colorado - CO
East Nevada/Utah - EN
Hawaii - HI
Idaho - ID
Kansas - KS
Louisiana - LA
Northern Ireland - NI
New Mexico - NM
Nevada - NV
Oklahoma - OK
Oregon - OR
Scotland - ST
Sonora - SN
Texas - TX
Washington - WA
Wyoming - WY
West Montana - WMt
Yukon Territory - YT

This is the total list of the United States of Sovereign California's land claims:

Afghanistan - AF
Algeria - AG
Cyprus - CP
Egypt - EG
Denmark - DM
Iceland - IC
Iran - IN
Libya - LB
Morocco - MR
Norway - NW
Oman - OM
Phillipines - PI
Saudi Arabia - SR
South Africa - SA
South Korea - SK
Sudan - SU
Taiwan - TW
Tunisia - TU
Yemen - YM
United Arab Emirates - UAE

Sorry to say it but that is ridicilously much. If those claims are accepted I am going to IGNORE you/this list. Leave something for the others please! I mean - you can never completely RP all those countries. You are called California and Alaska; stick to that damnit!

Anyways, you are not getting things like Belgium. There are NS regions with that name and so this is entirely invalid. And I DON'T believe that you haveRPed getting all these countries extensively.
~Annoyed Knoot player

Thank you for listing me for Luxembourg, I am forever in your debt.

Sorry to say it but that is ridicilously much. If those claims are accepted I am going to IGNORE you/this list. Leave something for the others please! I mean - you can never completely RP all those countries. You are called California and Alaska; stick to that damnit!

Anyways, you are not getting things like Belgium. There are NS regions with that name and so this is entirely invalid. And I DON'T believe that you haveRPed getting all these countries extensively.
~Annoyed Knoot player

I got all the stuff from US, Canada and Mexico. I knew about that. (*Merge Montana*) I read the Iceland topic, although now there's been two more since then. As for all the others, I'm gonna wait on that for a while.

Phanto - no problem

Drakonian - I should have the rest of those up there. Let me know if I don't.

She can't merge Montana, I have the other half. ;) It's the westernmost part of my holdings, though I also have an enclave at Seattle (twas a trade... she got one on the Chesapeake coast)

~Siri

Drakonian - I should have the rest of those up there. Let me know if I don't.

OOC: Yep, it's up there. Many thanks.

We control Saudi Arabia...and its governed like Hong Kong.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86269

We control Saudi Arabia...and its governed like Hong Kong.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86269

C&A claimed Saudi Arabia the day before you. And we ignored them.

Tordor has the right way of it, their just allied with large number of real nations in a pact where they do not have control of the Pact even if the pact has a common foe they all oppose.

NY and NJ Controls Puerto Rico. Pretty duh in most respects since NY and NJ combined have more Puerto Ricans than PR does IRL.

NY and NJ Controls Puerto Rico. Pretty duh in most respects since NY and NJ combined have more Puerto Ricans than PR does IRL.


lol

I am well aware of the whole Americas situation. My region annexed South America. And well, I apparently occupy Menelmacari territory.

The Danish Isle of Bornholm, the easternmost isle, is under Nikean control, as well as a base on Sjaelland, just outside of Copenhagen, as well as a research facility in the Danish city of Roskilde. We must insist, however, that these are only bases, and not occupying forces, and Nikea has no claims to Denmark other than the island of Bornholm. The base outside Copenhagen and the facility in Roskilde are simply an extension of Nikean military presence (OOC: think of the base and facility as similar to US military bases in Germany, for example).

I would like to claim all of southern Norway from Molde to the sea.

I would like to claim all of southern Norway from Molde to the sea.I belive the guy in charge of the list said that anyone from August on wouldn't have any justifiable claims as other nations have far older claims to those regions.

Also, the Empire has expanded to control part of the Ukraine(only the Southeast portion)

Hey, can I have Pitcairn Island? :D

Colombia

There was a nation called FARC that owned Colombia; Chimaea and Knootoss (I think it was Knootoss) aided FARC in taking most of Colombia from the government in return for a treaty that FARC would adhere to democratic principles, human rights, law and order in their claimed territories and for Chimaea and Knootoss to maintain a force of peacekeepers in Colombia

Since FARC has gone, Chimaea and Knootoss would remain in control of Colombia, or at least the parts which they helped FARC to take

Anyway; FARC has disappeared and the threads have been wiped. Obviously I can't point you in that direction, but I call on anyone who remembers to back me up here. There might have been a third nation (Clock Hill and Chimaea were acting together) in the peacekeeping force.

I'll contact Knootoss...

edit: oh, and: United Indiastan own Sri Lanka, but Chimaea disputes their validity. However we don't claim Sri Lanka as ours but as an independant nation. There was a referendum in Sri Lanka to see what the people think and it was in favour of remaining with United Indiastan; however, while accepting the results of this and backing down, Chimaea will not stop contesting for Sri Lankan independance.

[I'm the player of Ness Ziona, the other nation that claims GreenLand]

I see Kalaallit Nunaat also claimed the area, and indeed it's a legitimate claim.
My nation, Ness Ziona, is also located there, and I RP as if my nation IS there. Also Most of the facts from the factbook are based on GreenLand facts, and no-way I'm gonna draw another map...
So, I suggest one of us will be in another world's GreenLand.
(Yes, people DO want this place...)

We either do it that way, or go to war for it. So let's say alternate universes then shall we? :D

I lay claim to Lithuania, as I have not seen anyone else claim it.
Also, my ruler, Stanislav III, is descended from Stanislav II, who ruled the area when it was part of the polish alliance from 1764-1795. The country features the lush forrests described in my country's summary. And, I just want a nice little slice for my country. Toodles.

Close minded people, any national boundaries may be changed over the course of time due to conflict or political strife. Imagine if a interstellar massive military power arrived on Earth and changed all of the existing National Goverments.

What would you earthlings do then ? If you were outmatched both militarily and by technological superiority ? Would your nations continue to exist with your multiple claims of ownership ? Or would you be forced to submit to a more superior authority????


Now this RPing nonsense of who laid claim to what and when is mute.

Supereme Commander Arak
Empire of Dracoinus.

Here is a list of Evil Overlord Enterprises holdings- almost all of which are in the south and central Pacific.

Easter Island

Sala y Gomez

Juan Fernandez Islands

New Caledonia

Wallis and Futuna

Nauru

Cook Islands

Anderson Island

Jarvis Island


Here are the related links:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128988&highlight=

Naval RP with Argyllia.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128608&highlight=

Roania’s acquisition of the Marshalls

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2792973&highlight=#2792973

RL Nation Claims II thread. List of EOE assets

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2791163&highlight=#2791163

RL Nation Claims thread. Another listing.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124701&highlight=

Initial RP thread.


Please contact me if there are any problems. Chellis (for example) simply ignored my claims with no explanation.

TEO

Ehh, for the purposes of the Pacific Rim War, a thread taking place between California and Alaska, the thread is limited to RL countries + Ruhr, a created island in the pacific.

There are no RL claims in the thread aside from what Ruhr holds, (Which is the west coast of South America) and what California holds.

Thank you for your time.

-Ruhr

OOC: I think it's a bit late, but I just made it through one contest to my claims...so I'll make it all nice and explicit here.

The Madeira and Azores Island groups are claimed and occupied by Western Asian Marine Corps, Air Corps, and Naval Corps forces. The St. Helena Island groups were seized earlier and those claims are supported in the provided threads secondarily (I can't find my first mention of that claim at the moment, but I think that the follow-ups are fairly decent proof).

As a part of its Turkish claims, WA also maintains control of Turkish Cyprus (the existing Greek-turkish split in cyprus was addressed in a private IC meeting with Automagfreek, who is the acknowledged controller of greece in the eyes of WA).

The Gaining:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3079847#3079847
(and thereabouts in the same thread)

Necessary proof (uncontested demonstrations):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3122367#3122367
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3158427#3158427
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3094231#3094231

Recent Contest (resolved):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3188114#3188114