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Zedra Exspells Muslims, Elves, and all non-Human creatures

Zedra
11-10-2003, 15:37
The Theocracy of Zedra is currently exselling all non-Christians, exept for our Jewish Brothers, and non-Humans. This includes Elves, Skaven, Cat-People, Avians, Drodes, and others.

We are in the procces of seizing all posetions of the exspelled, they are allowed to take with them only the cothes on their Demon-Spawned backs.


We hope that many coutries will follow our lead.

OOC: Beilive it or not, I an not a newbie, this is a serparate nation and NOT A PUPPET! I RP my two main nations seperatly. Actualy, my main nation is an elven nation.
Sydia
11-10-2003, 15:50
The Nation of Sydia requests the reason why you feel the need to expell these minorities and offers asylum to those who have been exiled.

Sydian Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Zedra
11-10-2003, 16:08
It is obvious, all non-Humans are the spawn of Satan and must be exspelled from out nation so that we will earn Gods love for us.
11-10-2003, 16:13
oh great, another zealot
Zedra
11-10-2003, 16:16
"we are not Zealots but we follow the true path of Gods word."
Sakkra
11-10-2003, 16:19
We are quite pleased that our people do not journey to regions that do not have Imperial sanction. And nations like this illustrate why.
11-10-2003, 17:13
The Priest Council of the Great Temple of Gratica would like to express their sympathy toward all of those who are being torn away from their homes, jobs, communities and friends, for refusing to follow the Chruch of Zedra.

The Council would like to ask the Zedran government for permission to evacuate all who are willing to Gratika; while we are mostly a Pagan nation, there is a prosperous Muslim community here, and we are certain that those of both faithes would find our nation most welcoming.
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 17:19
OOC: My nation is all non-humans, and you'd like me to throw them out? HA! I'll have to speak to the Non-Human Alliance about you tossing out those poor people.
11-10-2003, 17:29
"And where do you assume that you are not spawn of Satin? The judger should judge himself, before he condemns."

Kain Irenicus
Argyres
11-10-2003, 17:31
The Holy Republic of Argyres will welcome as many refugees as our resources will allow, but also denounces the bigotry that brought on this tragic situation.
Zedra
11-10-2003, 17:31
"And where do you assume that you are not spawn of Satin? The judger should judge himself, before he condemns."

Kain Irenicus

"But we are followers of the word of God, followers of the truth that He has given us. For that matter you have no right to judge Expelled spawn of Satan"

OOC: Wandering Argonians, shut up
11-10-2003, 17:39
"And where do you assume that you are not spawn of Satin? The judger should judge himself, before he condemns."

Kain Irenicus

"But we are followers of the word of God, followers of the truth that He has given us. For that matter you have no right to judge Expelled spawn of Satan"



"Ah but if the race of elfs where to believe that they where following the word of God that had been granted to all races. Then who is right? None of course. I am exiled yes, but do you know of the reason I was? I am no spawn of Satin, nor am I the heavenly divine as you assume yourselfs as. Know the nature of who you slander and abuse before you do so, least by the order of your God's word, those who truelly believe shall turn against you."

"But continue to proceed in your hypocracies, and you shall be the judged, not the judger, and it shall be by those who which you are so akin to in beliefs and misguided morals in assuming that you are holy.That is the irony in your own fated demise"

Kain Irenicus
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 17:39
OOC: Zedra, f**k off.
11-10-2003, 17:40
(Aragonians has a point. To do this would incur the wrath of the non-human Alliance, and the UN.)
The Gulf States
11-10-2003, 17:40
We would be interested in giving asylum to the elves.

You want to send em over to us, or do you want us to pick them up, or any questions?
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 17:42
OOC: Again my friend KI speaks words of wisdom.
Thelas
11-10-2003, 17:47
OOC: Zedra, f**k off.
OOC: F--- off? Some what surprized that Zedra is controlled by the same person who owns Thelas? I have been trying to run a comparison of the alliancesin NationStates, I wanted to see what the "other" side was like. in RL I am a moderate Christian, non-denominational. All of this is totaly IC and my OOC belives are nothing like the belives exspressed by Zedra
Phantomieux
11-10-2003, 17:48
I commend you Zedra, and agree with you in part. I have already ordered the mass expulsion of all Muslims and followers of Islam about a month ago, and the process is going quite well. Terrorist religions preaching death will not be allowed safe haven within my nation. However we have no probelms with races, and they are allowed to remain. That said, good job with the Muslims. At least there is one other nation who sees the truth.

~Admiral Alexandre Lecroix, Premier of Phantomieux
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 17:53
What about the 'Nation of Islam'? The African-American followers of the Islamic faith, like Mohammed Ali and Maclom X?
Zedra
11-10-2003, 17:57
What about the 'Nation of Islam'? The African-American followers of the Islamic faith, like Mohammed Ali and Maclom X?

In reference to what?
And Kain, I am not part of the UN never was, and never will be.
11-10-2003, 17:58
"And if I where in a position to exile Christians from my nation, because it is from the commandments of Gods word, what would your responce be? You can do nothing, or are hypocrits to the religon you hold so precious. You do this either out of deluded, corrupted and fake faith, or one of a darker purpose, for some advantage of your own. Religon has been used as a tool to grant reasons to evil acts."
Zedra
11-10-2003, 18:03
"And if I where in a position to exile Christians from my nation, because it is from the commandments of Gods word, what would your responce be? You can do nothing, or are hypocrits to the religon you hold so precious. You do this either out of deluded, corrupted and fake faith, or one of a darker purpose, for some advantage of your own. Religon has been used as a tool to grant reasons to evil acts."

"But it is you who are the hypocrit, first telling us to judge ourselves, then making your own decisions about our faith Devil-spawn. And if you exiled all Chrisians we would consider you heretical, then we would exile you. If you were under our juristiction.
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 18:06
OOC: You expel muslims on the grounds that they are all terrorists who's sole purpose is to blow things up and kill people. Violence and prejudice only fosters more violence and prejudice.
11-10-2003, 18:12
"And if I where in a position to exile Christians from my nation, because it is from the commandments of Gods word, what would your responce be? You can do nothing, or are hypocrits to the religon you hold so precious. You do this either out of deluded, corrupted and fake faith, or one of a darker purpose, for some advantage of your own. Religon has been used as a tool to grant reasons to evil acts."

"But it is you who are the hypocrit, first telling us to judge ourselves, then making your own decisions about our faith Devil-spawn. And if you exiled all Chrisians we would consider you heretical, then we would exile you. If you were under our juristiction.

"I have judged myself and am acting in accordance in what I have found. And you say that you would exile me? Then why would you expect no less from other nations? You are against many enemys now, the UN, the Non-Human Alliance and many people who see this violation against thier morals. As you act in accordance to your[/I] God, I act in accordance to [U]mine. From what I have seen from your God, it encourages hypocricies, lies, deceit, war ,prejudice, famind, pestilance, slander and murder."

(OOC When he says "Your God" he is refering to the nations God, not all Christians. Just narrow minded ones etc.)
Thelas
11-10-2003, 18:14
OOC: You expel muslims on the grounds that they are all terrorists who's sole purpose is to blow things up and kill people. Violence and prejudice only fosters more violence and prejudice.

Wandering Argonians, if you are going to heckle this thread with OOC comments, I respectfully ask you to LEAVE!
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 18:15
OOC: He's going to exile you, Kain. :P
11-10-2003, 18:17
An OOC remark should not effect an IC remark. The remarks I have made are some of my own beliefs and arguemtns, obviously with different parts due to character. If you wish to argue, just say you are a member of public in this debate or something. A politician or a preist etc.
Thelas
11-10-2003, 18:18
An OOC remark should not effect an IC remark. The remarks I have made are some of my own beliefs and arguemtns, obviously with different parts due to character. If you wish to argue, just say you are a member of public in this debate or something. A politician or a preist etc.

Kain where is that directed?
11-10-2003, 18:21
WA. I mean, OOC remarks are of course appreciated but this is a rp discussion ot a player discussion. Although your own views may come across.
Wandering Argonians
11-10-2003, 18:21
OOC: Someone's come to defend his puppet....
11-10-2003, 18:21
OOC: He's going to exile you, Kain. :P

lol...like I care...
The Gulf States
11-10-2003, 18:29
I'm still waiting for the offer to be taken on picking up the Elven population...
Khar Vadis
16-12-2003, 07:22
"Shall we strike, Chief?"
"I think so, yes... but not yet. We need more information first. Send a spy into Zedra."
Roania
16-12-2003, 07:40
Anyone see what I just saw? I just saw, in big flashing letters,

ANNEX ME, SIRI!

I'll save her the effort... wait, diplomatic options first... damn being on the side of good sux.

IC:

We wish to understand why members of our faith are attempting to exile, rather then convert, the heathen.

Please explain. You can expell all the arabs and muslims you want, but elves is just wrong!

~Alysanndra Ellestrea

Aren't double standards wonderful?

~Prince Alexander Black

Sit. Stay. Good boy.

~Alysanndra Ellestrea
Ravenspire
16-12-2003, 09:12
OOC: *sigh*

Thelas, this is neither original nor good. It's yet another case of someone deciding that the way to play an "evil" country is to say "Ooooo, I'm (killing/exiling) all my (insert minority group here). Ain't I naughty?"

That's not evil. It's puerile. It's a poor imitation of other, more serious "bad guy" nations that have done things like this in the past -- but you, like most of the newbies, miss a key fact. Those nations, at least the ones that are any good at RP, didn't just come out by saying "I do blah blah blah exile blah blah heretics, nyah nyah nyah." They established their situations first, then closed in on the "evil" RP. You're skipping the set-up, and that's just lazy.

And it's old, to boot. Find yourself a new twist.
Roania
16-12-2003, 09:14
OOC: *sigh*

Thelas, this is neither original nor good. It's yet another case of someone deciding that the way to play an "evil" country is to say "Ooooo, I'm (killing/exiling) all my (insert minority group here). Ain't I naughty?"

That's not evil. It's puerile. It's a poor imitation of other, more serious "bad guy" nations that have done things like this in the past -- but you, like most of the newbies, miss a key fact. Those nations, at least the ones that are any good at RP, didn't just come out by saying "I do blah blah blah exile blah blah heretics, nyah nyah nyah." They established their situations first, then closed in on the "evil" RP. You're skipping the set-up, and that's just lazy.

And it's old, to boot. Find yourself a new twist.

So, you're saying that if I do that, I won't have everyone screaming when I order every muslim killed?... Hmm. Seriously, Thelas, why? You know what happens to people on the other side. They get stomped.
Ravenspire
16-12-2003, 09:48
OOC: No, that is not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that you might get some respect as an RPer when and if you do so, after having written up numerous posts about your sociopolitical climate and its growing anti-Muslim attitude.

To put it another way: This is the difference between Iesus Christi and similar nations, and all the newbies whose first post amounts to "OMG I killx0rz teh nonXtians lolz!"
Thelas
16-12-2003, 16:59
Let me see, which thread is this, ohh yes,

you see, for a while I played Thelas as an evil nation, Zedra started as an Issue experiment, then I decided to launch into an RP. I was trying to see if a theorem I thought of would work, namely, 'if I expel but do not execute, how soon till I get death threats' and the second one, 'if I expel Elves, but kill various "heretics" which one would be worse.

The answer, surprisingly, is that it is worse to export elves.

I am going to write a small paper on this...
Vegana
16-12-2003, 17:28
tag, C'mon people try to make it interesting. Zedra, maybe you should read the Blood and Honour laws. And Roania, Yes, If you hadn't conveniently decided to ignore Reich nations,( which you recently has gone back on, without any explanation?! ) We would have destroyed you for killing of all moslems... and now for the mandatory rant...

IC:

The wonderful nation of Vegana declares it a miracle, another nation has had its scales removed from its eyes and can now see the threats of the meta-human abominations. Another nation will now follow the glorious Blood and Honour laws and thus bringing the world one step closer to paradise.