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The Empire of the Eternal Dawn hereby demands that the Empire of AMF immediately and without pause does henceforth follow the regulations set out in this statement:

1. Automagfreek will, without undue expanse of time between acceptance and enactment, follow the letter and wording of these demands to the letter.
2. Automagfreek will, within the bounds of reasonability, reduce its armed forces to a size approximately 5% of its current armed forces size.
3. Automagfreek will, within the bounds of reasonability, provide all and any evidence within its possession that supports/damages the building case against that nation for undue and erroneous global activities/crimes against sentients/genocide. Failure to comply will result in the information being extracted by EOTED forces.
4. Automagfreek will, for eternity, become a vassal state to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, with all rights and privelages that come with that status.
5. Automagfreek will swear fealty to the Empress.
6. Automagfreek will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.
7. Automagfreek is henceforth considered a territory aligned with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

Ma-Tek, you do know that Auto will never agree to this. For that matter, I think that under diferent circumstances I would help Auto.

"Under Diferent Circumstances" Means, if Menelmacar did not technicaly "own" my nation. I just will not waist my breath, Siri will order the troops back no matter what I do.

A little piece of paper fluttered its way into possession of a Thelasian diplomat.

It read:
It can be inferred by reading between the lines that the Empire of the Eternal Dawn would prefer Automagfreek to refuse.

6. Automagfreek will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.

That's just stupid and unfair :?

A little piece of paper fluttered its way into possession of a Thelasian diplomat.

It read:
It can be inferred by reading between the lines that the Empire of the Eternal Dawn would prefer Automagfreek to refuse.

Message that found its' way back, I know that

A disgusting offer.

A disgusting offer.

OOC: And that from the one who posted threads like "DG wants war with somebody! Please volunteer!" :wink:

6. Automagfreek will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.

That's just stupid and unfair :?

As New Spartha found out - life isn't always fair.

After massive missile strikes, bombing runs, and a huge blitzkreig style push between all Sentinel and armored forces, AMF has captured almost the entire naiton.

New Spartha's King was killed, it's military head is being taken to the Halls of the Dead, it's armies are starving locked up inside underground bunkers, poison gas infests the land due to New Spartha's attempt at killing Sentinels, and the country has been leveled.

All civilians have either been evacuated, captured by AMF forces, or killed on site. The Queen and Prime Minister are still somewhere in the country, and AMF forces will NOT allow their extraction. AMF officials are considering placing a garrison inside the destroyed territory, although a request is being sent to his regional delegate to have regional forces occupy so that NS will not spring up again.

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The New Sparthan King's bullet riddled body is paraded through the streets, impaled on a 20 foot pole. After being taken through the streets of ULE City, the King's body is being placed on the shore facing the former New Spartha territory. His decaying corpse will be placed on the highest cliff nearest the shore, to stand forever as a silent reminder of what happens when foolish nations f--- with AMF.

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For the live execution of NS's Colonel, tune in to channel 23 at 10:00 pm.

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AMF declares victory over New Spartha. The country of New Spartha no longer exists. AMF forces wil continue to occupy until regional forces move in.

A disgusting offer.

OOC: And that from the one who posted threads like "DG wants war with somebody! Please volunteer!" :wink:

Boredom often leads to minor miscalculations. This is just disgusting.

The Empire known as Automagfreek has, in our opinion, recently retracted (by their own volition) their right to sovereignty. Repeated and admitted atrocities, instability and warfare; the list is quite extensive, and due to its rather nefarious activities, AMF has gained the dubious honour of winning the status of 'rogue state posing a security threat to EOTED interests' on the IDFI database.

Therefore, the Empire feels it is our responsibility to end the threat.

You may send your messages of thanks once the situation is resolved.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

Whispering Voices supports its CENNA ally, the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, in this matter. Automagfreek is strongly urged to follow the demands as set out, lest "the flame" burn itself out.

Whispering Voices supports its CENNA ally, the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, in this matter. Automagfreek is strongly urged to follow the demands as set out, lest "the flame" burn itself out.

The Empire extends words of a greatly grateful nature to its CENNA ally, Whispering Voices, for their gracious and honourable support in this matter.

~ Ambassador Dejure

What buisness is it of yours what AMF does? Just because you see him as a threat, does not mean you can present demands. Until AMF poses a physical threat (ie: is mobilizing to attack you) you cannot present demands. Even then it would be stupid.

If AMF choses to reject these oppressive demands, The Dominion of Skager will support AMF to any ends nessasary.

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn hereby demands that the Empire of AMF immediately and without pause does henceforth follow the regulations set out in this statement:

1. Automagfreek will, without undue expanse of time between acceptance and enactment, follow the letter and wording of these demands to the letter.
2. Automagfreek will, within the bounds of reasonability, reduce its armed forces to a size approximately 5% of its current armed forces size.
3. Automagfreek will, within the bounds of reasonability, provide all and any evidence within its possession that supports/damages the building case against that nation for undue and erroneous global activities/crimes against sentients/genocide. Failure to comply will result in the information being extracted by EOTED forces.
4. Automagfreek will, for eternity, become a vassal state to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, with all rights and privelages that come with that status.
5. Automagfreek will swear fealty to the Empress.
6. Automagfreek will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.
7. Automagfreek is henceforth considered a territory aligned with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

The High Council of the Duchy has unanimously issued the following decision concering EOTED's demands to Automagfreek:


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Thank you for your attention.

While it is a policy of ours never to support imperialism, frankly we prefer EOTED's relative benevolence to AMF's blind bloodlust. We will support EOTED simply because we feel we have no other choice, although we reject the entire country's annexation and feel AMF's people deserve a measure of self-government.

One way or another, it is imperative that AMF be disarmed.

OOC:
Ooh a cute little...
http://stat.livejournal.com/img/mood/opiummmm/foxies/happy.gif

Sorry about that, anyway, why don't we wait for AMF's side first?

What buisness is it of yours what AMF does? Just because you see him as a threat, does not mean you can present demands. Until AMF poses a physical threat (ie: is mobilizing to attack you) you cannot present demands. Even then it would be stupid.

If AMF choses to reject these oppressive demands, The Dominion of Skager will support AMF to any ends nessasary.

This encouragement to a rogue state to initiate a war when one is totally unavoidable and would, indeed, promote peace is - quite frankly - irresponsible.

The Federation will, of course, support its blood ally the Empire of the Eternal Dawn in this matter. We advise the Damien Dreadfire to surrender his country with the minimum of bloodshed for all concerned.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

{Open secured CommLine to EOTED Representative}

{Secured CommLine open}

{Begin transmission}

We wish to offer our support to your efforts, though at this time we would not and could not offer direct military support. Therefore we are offering any economic assistance the Empire may deem necessary, though we doubt you will need it.

D.A.N.A.

{End transmission}

*Tagged for intelligence purposes*

Hoek van Holland, Knootoss coast

Rain poured down on the dirt of the Dutch nation of Knootoss, and the water intermingled with the sand on the beach creating a muddy substance. At one point, the beach was closed off by a fence and the shadows of structures could be seen, looming over the beach. Construction of the EOTED naval base in Knootoss was proceeding according to schedule. Flags from the South Atlantic Treaty Organisation waving atop one of the constructions.

A man in his thirties walking his dog on the beach muttered: “Yuk, mud again. And rain again, why does it always rain when I did not bring my umbrella?” He increased his pace as his clothes were slowly being soaked.

…

Inside the base, workers had paused their work because the rain was getting too bad. The builders sat closely together in their building-shack. Some were eating lunch and other were playing cards. In the background KNN radio played some popmusic:

”… and now the news. The Empire of the Eternal Dawn has demanded that Automagfreek disarm and become an EOTED vassal state. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79981) The claim was to be honoured immediately, according EOTED Ambassador Relhatti. Analysts from the Klingendael institute claim that EOTED is steering towards a war with The Empire of Automagfreek. As of yet there have been no reports of troop mobilisations on either side. The Knootian ministry of foreign affairs has refused to comment on the affair though it is expected that a statement will follow shortly. More conservative elements in Knootian parliament such as the RCPK see this as a moment of opportunity and RCPK leader Frits Bolkestein is expected to be pushing for a firm condemnation of Automagfreek policy. Meanwhile minister of foreign affairs Hans Van Mierlo has broken off his vacation in Menelmacar and has returned to work. He is expected to make an address the Ur Trade Pact council soon, however he refused to give any explanation for the position for the broad coalition.

Meanwhile construction of the rivalling offshore themepark is said to continue as planned. Just before the statement Knootian hydrological engineers expressed their confidence that the new Polder project would become an unprecedented success…”

The workers muttered uneasily.

"OOC3" ---> As you could have guessed by now this is from another thread but it obviously bears relevance hear.

After reveiwing the evidence laid before them, Thelas High Command has determined, with General Theallas full suport, to offer millitary assistance to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn. Many pollitical comentators are surprised at this action, in the past Thelas has been somewhat antagonistic with EOTED, but now appears that the Thelas government is trying to thaw relations with SATO members that have been sub-zero at best.

What buisness is it of yours what AMF does? Just because you see him as a threat, does not mean you can present demands. Until AMF poses a physical threat (ie: is mobilizing to attack you) you cannot present demands. Even then it would be stupid.

If AMF choses to reject these oppressive demands, The Dominion of Skager will support AMF to any ends nessasary.

It is part of our current foreign policy drive, as passed by Imperial House, Citizens House, and the Executive Council in due course, to strive to promote stability in a global manner.

Automagfreek is considered a threat to global stability, and thusly we are responding by removing the sovereign rights from the nation in question in order to promote the stability that said nation has been consistantly threatening.

It is the 'business' of the entire global community when their own security, collectively, is threatened. As the global community has failed to respond to this threat, we, as a leading member of that community, have taken steps to make a response on behalf of the global community - and the general good of the people of the former-Empire of Automagfreek.

~ High Lord Aquinall

The Federation will, of course, support its blood ally the Empire of the Eternal Dawn in this matter. We advise the Damien Dreadfire to surrender his country with the minimum of bloodshed for all concerned.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

The Empire, as ever, is most pleased by the support of our eternal friends and allies, the Federation of Sentient Peoples. Your support is most welcome, friends.

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad

After reveiwing the evidence laid before them, Thelas High Command has determined, with General Theallas full suport, to offer millitary assistance to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn. Many pollitical comentators are surprised at this action, in the past Thelas has been somewhat antagonistic with EOTED, but now appears that the Thelas government is trying to thaw relations with SATO members that have been sub-zero at best.

The Empire does not feel this is necessary, although the effort to improve relations is most welcome. However, we do not feel that militarisation of this matter is preferable at this time, and, indeed, consider this to be an internal matter relating directly only to EOTED and its inner circle of allies and AMF itself.

Our thanks remain, but your swords are not welcome.

~ Ambassador Dejure

*snip*

The Empire does not feel this is necessary, although the effort to improve relations is most welcome. However, we do not feel that militarisation of this matter is preferable at this time, and, indeed, consider this to be an internal matter relating directly only to EOTED and its inner circle of allies and AMF itself.

Our thanks remain, but your swords are not welcome.

~ Ambassador Dejure

Very well, if assistance is needed do not hesitate to contact us.

We have long observed Automagfreek's actions. Recently, it even allowed the rogue nation of Roania to stripmine the southern portion of New Spartha, an AMF-conquored territory. They even allowed the rogue nation to slaughter people there.

We have seen enough. It is time.

We pledge our moral support to the Empire of the Enternal Dawn.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Ministr

We have long observed Automagfreek's actions. Recently, it even allowed the rogue nation of Roania to stripmine the southern portion of New Spartha, an AMF-conquored territory. They even allowed the rogue nation to slaughter people there.

We have seen enough. It is time.

We pledge our moral support to the Empire of the Enternal Dawn.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Ministr

Your moral support is, of course, gratefully recieved.

~ High Lord Aquinall of Ax-turath

You do realize that even if you can defeat Damien's ground forces (which is unlikely given that Pantera will also jump into this) it will not be possibly to defeat the combined space forces of the Chromstar Alliance? Furthermore, given Angelus' relative support for AMF's policies, it wouldn't surprise me if they jumped in as well.

The Vortex Corporation offers EOTED moral support. We feel that AMF has gone too far in recent events. The displays of cruelty and the lack of mercy that the world has witnessed is a clear indication of the fact that current AMF leadership should not be allowed to wield the power they have.

Should this situation escalate into conflict, the Vortex Corporation will seriously consider extending our moral support to more tangible support, and we are determined to keep supporting EOTED in whatever their future policy might be, concerning this issue.

Also, we have examined this so-called Chromestar Alliance that AMF seems to be connected with. We had never heard of it before, and question it's power and influence, though we might be wrong in assuming that this alliance is relatively powerless. As for the UTP, we know many respected nations are a part of that, and therefore we are confident that they will see the wisdom in this development, and will not act to keep AMF's leader on his throne.

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We have long observed Automagfreek's actions. Recently, it even allowed the rogue nation of Roania to stripmine the southern portion of New Spartha, an AMF-conquored territory. They even allowed the rogue nation to slaughter people there.

We have seen enough. It is time.

We pledge our moral support to the Empire of the Enternal Dawn.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Ministr

Be sure that your support stays moral, we have no qualms about killing our enemies.

Chief Ambassador Asiya Saleh.

Also, we have examined this so-called Chromestar Alliance that AMF seems to be connected with. We had never heard of it before, and question it's power and influence, though we might be wrong in assuming that this alliance is relatively powerless. As for the UTP, we know many respected nations are a part of that, and therefore we are confident that they will see the wisdom in this development, and will not act to keep AMF's leader on his throne.

The Star League External Security Service continues to be shocked at the relative imcompatence of enemy intelligence services, although it is beginning to sink in that most national leaders think they know enough to not have to properly fund their intelligence services.

"We declare neutrality - the actions of both sides are condemnable. We will keep an eye on this, and possibly decide our side later. It is, homewer, unlikely that we will join the possible conflict."

- Minister of Foreign Affairs

You do realize that even if you can defeat Damien's ground forces (which is unlikely given that Pantera will also jump into this) it will not be possibly to defeat the combined space forces of the Chromstar Alliance? Furthermore, given Angelus' relative support for AMF's policies, it wouldn't surprise me if they jumped in as well.

The 'Sentinels' - the clone army that Automagfreek uses - are certainly good at obliterating small nations with no army. Their previous deployments and performance indicates that, even if individually well-trained and strong, they have the tactical and strategic aptitude of a Thighmaster 2000.

And the Chromestar Alliance's power has been analysed and found utterly insignificant. Should such a space armada been brought into play, it is your intelligence services which are showing deficit, as they have obviously not got a clue about the forces they would be up against.

The Star League External Security Service continues to be shocked at the relative imcompatence of enemy intelligence services, although it is beginning to sink in that most national leaders think they know enough to not have to properly fund their intelligence services.

*Hilarious laughter emerging from eastern Sisgardia*

OOC: Does no one know what Secret IC means, as far as you all know AMF just throws his enemies into isolation for the rest of their life. I might also remind you that the Halls of the Dead are no worse than the electric chair for all the pain and suffering that it causes.

OOC: Does no one know what Secret IC means, as far as you all know AMF just throws his enemies into isolation for the rest of their life. I might also remind you that the Halls of the Dead are no worse than the electric chair for all the pain and suffering that it causes.

Yes. Because the electric chair is comparable to slowly dissolving a child in acid. Would you like an OOC scooby snack?

Actually, it's the public gloating about shooting the leader of New Spartha and all the other things broadcast to the world that are attracting condemnation. Not the 'Halls of the Dead'.

Which proves that the ineffable Star League Intelligence Dorks could not even figure out the motives behind the EOTED statement.

So much for your fantastic intelligence service

OOC: Does no one know what Secret IC means, as far as you all know AMF just throws his enemies into isolation for the rest of their life. I might also remind you that the Halls of the Dead are no worse than the electric chair for all the pain and suffering that it causes.

Yes. Because the electric chair is comparable to slowly dissolving a child in acid. Would you like an OOC scooby snack?

Actually, it's the public gloating about shooting the leader of New Spartha and all the other things broadcast to the world that are attracting condemnation. Not the 'Halls of the Dead'.

OOC: Right, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't shoot the leader of a nation that tried to gas your troops. New Spartha would have had a second chance at life if they hadn't poisoned their own population and country, maybe you should go invade whatever country gives them amnest instead, at least AMF doesn't kill his own citizens out of hand.

Which proves that the ineffable Star League Intelligence Dorks could not even figure out the motives behind the EOTED statement.

So much for your fantastic intelligence service

We understand well enough, the EOTED are being warmongers as usual. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out, given the insane demands.

OOC: Right, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't shoot the leader of a nation that tried to gas your troops. New Spartha would have had a second chance at life if they hadn't poisoned their own population and country, maybe you should go invade whatever country gives them amnest instead, at least AMF doesn't kill his own citizens out of hand.

I find it hard to believe a leader of a nation wouldn't try to gas troops invading his country and slaughtering his citizens.

WTF is amnest?

And yes, I believe you'll find he does.

You do realize that even if you can defeat Damien's ground forces (which is unlikely given that Pantera will also jump into this) it will not be possibly to defeat the combined space forces of the Chromstar Alliance? Furthermore, given Angelus' relative support for AMF's policies, it wouldn't surprise me if they jumped in as well.

Any unwanted external interaction in this matter by the Chromstar Alliance or, indeed, any other entity, will be considered an act of war against the Empire of the Eternal Dawn and will be dealt with accordingly.

Furthermore, we note that Angelus is unlikely to support AMF in this matter.

~ High Lord Aquinall

Ambasador Dejure,

Allow me to formally extend the greetings of the PrattCo Conglomerate to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn. It has long been our desire to increase the level of peaceful relations between our two powers. Recently, our forces fought alongside one another in the Resi War, helping to remove a pit of moral corruption therein from the international scene. Not only in that action will you find our forces are aligned; we support this taming of AMF of yours. Indeed, should the IDF desire assistance, or in case AMF provides stiff military resistance or retaliatory threats, we would be happy to coordinate joint defense movements with you. Not that we think this will come to war or anything.

Sincerely,

Eric Love, Director, International Developments Group
PrattCo Conglomerate

The Empire gratefully accepts all offers of moral support in this matter.

~ Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II; 'The Merciful'

OOC: Right, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't shoot the leader of a nation that tried to gas your troops. New Spartha would have had a second chance at life if they hadn't poisoned their own population and country, maybe you should go invade whatever country gives them amnest instead, at least AMF doesn't kill his own citizens out of hand.

I find it hard to believe a leader of a nation wouldn't try to gas troops invading his country and slaughtering his citizens.

WTF is amnest?

And yes, I believe you'll find he does.

OOC: :roll: Look, you have your views, however misguided though they might be. Look at it this way, would you like it if some guy came in off the street demanding that you hand over everything you have just because he suspects that you might spank you kids? That's about what Ma-tek is doing.

Btw, I meant to type amnesty.

OOC: :roll: Look, you have your views, however misguided though they might be. Look at it this way, would you like it if some guy came in off the street demanding that you hand over everything you have just because he suspects that you might spank you kids? That's about what Ma-tek is doing.

You mean like a Child Protection Officer, one of the people responsible for preventing child abuse?

...

Your massive bias is obviously reducing your IQ level.

Also, we have examined this so-called Chromestar Alliance that AMF seems to be connected with. We had never heard of it before, and question it's power and influence, though we might be wrong in assuming that this alliance is relatively powerless. As for the UTP, we know many respected nations are a part of that, and therefore we are confident that they will see the wisdom in this development, and will not act to keep AMF's leader on his throne.

The Star League External Security Service continues to be shocked at the relative imcompatence of enemy intelligence services, although it is beginning to sink in that most national leaders think they know enough to not have to properly fund their intelligence services.

The Chromestar Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57574&start=0) actually sort of evolved from the Coalition Against War.

In fact, after abandoning most of his nuclear program, among which the HOUNDs, AMF decided to create a Coalition Against War(CAW), which would intervene either diplomatically or militarilly to end a major conflict.

The Grand Duchy became associate member of the CAW, due to AMF's mistrust to Dominion/GDODAD nations.

It is to be reminded that the Grand Duchy was also a member of the Dominion/GDODAD until it was dissolved by The Silver Turtle.

Back on subject now.

This CAW as it was only lasted not even more than a week, due to AMF's leaving of Earth.

Neo-Wu, the second in command of the CAW was the one behind the name "Chromestar".

What happened later is still a mystery to the scribes and scholars of the Duchy, but it would seem that AMF and Neo-Wu sort of decided to leave Earth and take a couple of members with them, kicking everyone else out.

The Grand Duchy has never received any clarifications on the subject of revocation of its membership with the CAW, which, diplomatically speaking, put the High Council of the Duchy into a "certain degree of diplomatical mistrust, disgust and hostility" towards the respective nations of Neo-Wu and AMF.
In english - the High Council was pissed off, since it deems that the Duchy deserves at least the right to be informed on the revocation of its membership status within an organization.

The Chromestar, even if orginally "evolving" from the CAW, resembles in nothing the CAW.
It has been seen, that the leader of Chromestar - the 'famous' AMF, in place of stopping conflicts, initiated wars and mass murders.

This concludes this short incursion into the history of the Chromestar.

If the scribes of the Duchy have interpreted something wrongly, we urge you to correct us, so that the information is recorded properly into the History and Chronicles books.

Thank you for your attention,

Consultative and Scientific Sub-Commitee of the Grand Duchy for Modern History.

Whispering Voice, Scandavian States, CLAM DOWN. I think both of you are great RPers and people, and I do not want t see you two banned, or warned for Flameing, so CALM DOWN and STOP HIJACKING!

You do realize that even if you can defeat Damien's ground forces (which is unlikely given that Pantera will also jump into this) it will not be possibly to defeat the combined space forces of the Chromstar Alliance? Furthermore, given Angelus' relative support for AMF's policies, it wouldn't surprise me if they jumped in as well.

Any unwanted external interaction in this matter by the Chromstar Alliance or, indeed, any other entity, will be considered an act of war against the Empire of the Eternal Dawn and will be dealt with accordingly.

Furthermore, we note that Angelus is unlikely to support AMF in this matter.

~ High Lord Aquinall

Depends on who wants it or not, we do not consider the EOTED the last word on everything and very few people do. Furthermore, the second anything of your touches AMF soil in anything less than a friendly manner the Chromestar Alliance is at war with you anyways, so the threat holds no water and quite frankly doesn't scare me.

#tag#

Whispering Voice, Scandavian States, CLAM DOWN. I think both of you are great RPers and people, and I do not want t see you two banned, or warned for Flameing, so CALM DOWN and STOP HIJACKING!

Yea. Sorry. I need to stop letting mo ... people like Scandivian States goad me with unnecessary OOC posts into posting OOC.

Of course, one day Scandivian States will make an IC post, and it'll be the day I just got run over by the bus and died or something so I won't get to see it, but hey...


IC:

The Whispering Voices spacestation New Babel has been put on high alert, with full deployment of buckyball nets going ahead.

Also, we have examined this so-called Chromestar Alliance that AMF seems to be connected with. We had never heard of it before, and question it's power and influence, though we might be wrong in assuming that this alliance is relatively powerless. As for the UTP, we know many respected nations are a part of that, and therefore we are confident that they will see the wisdom in this development, and will not act to keep AMF's leader on his throne.

The Star League External Security Service continues to be shocked at the relative imcompatence of enemy intelligence services, although it is beginning to sink in that most national leaders think they know enough to not have to properly fund their intelligence services.

The Chromestar Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57574&start=0) actually sort of evolved from the Coalition Against War.

In fact, after abandoning most of his nuclear program, among which the HOUNDs, AMF decided to create a Coalition Against War(CAW), which would intervene either diplomatically or militarilly to end a major conflict.

The Grand Duchy became associate member of the CAW, due to AMF's mistrust to Dominion/GDODAD nations.

It is to be reminded that the Grand Duchy was also a member of the Dominion/GDODAD until it was dissolved by The Silver Turtle.

Back on subject now.

This CAW as it was only lasted not even more than a week, due to AMF's leaving of Earth.

Neo-Wu, the second in command of the CAW was the one behind the name "Chromestar".

What happened later is still a mystery to the scribes and scholars of the Duchy, but it would seem that AMF and Neo-Wu sort of decided to leave Earth and take a couple of members with them, kicking everyone else out.

The Grand Duchy has never received any clarifications on the subject of revocation of its membership with the CAW, which, diplomatically speaking, put the High Council of the Duchy into a "certain degree of diplomatical mistrust, disgust and hostility" towards the respective nations of Neo-Wu and AMF.
In english - the High Council was pissed off, since it deems that the Duchy deserves at least the right to be informed on the revocation of its membership status within an organization.

The Chromestar, even if orginally "evolving" from the CAW, resembles in nothing the CAW.
It has been seen, that the leader of Chromestar - the 'famous' AMF, in place of stopping conflicts, initiated wars and mass murders.

This concludes this short incursion into the history of the Chromestar.

If the scribes of the Duchy have interpreted something wrongly, we urge you to correct us, so that the information is recorded properly into the History and Chronicles books.

Thank you for your attention.

I do not believe the CA has been called into action as a whole in its history, any nation may do as s/he wishes and as far as the rest of us are concerned it isn't our business, so long as it doesn't involve the CA as a whole.

You do realize that even if you can defeat Damien's ground forces (which is unlikely given that Pantera will also jump into this) it will not be possibly to defeat the combined space forces of the Chromstar Alliance? Furthermore, given Angelus' relative support for AMF's policies, it wouldn't surprise me if they jumped in as well.

Any unwanted external interaction in this matter by the Chromstar Alliance or, indeed, any other entity, will be considered an act of war against the Empire of the Eternal Dawn and will be dealt with accordingly.

Furthermore, we note that Angelus is unlikely to support AMF in this matter.

~ High Lord Aquinall

Depends on who wants it or not, we do not consider the EOTED the last word on everything and very few people do. Furthermore, the second anything of your touches AMF soil in anything less than a friendly manner the Chromestar Alliance is at war with you anyways, so the threat holds no water and quite frankly doesn't scare me.

AMF is EOTED territory. You have no jurisdiction there. Therefore: further allusions to threats against the Empire will be taken seriously... and we will be forced reconsider our stance regarding your attitude, little one.

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad

OOC: Fuck it, I'm done toeing the line.

It is the position of the Star League that any territory held by a Chromestar Alliance member is outside the influence of foreign nations unless said member publicly and willingly states otherwise. Any false claims to CA territory must be backed by the successful use of force before they are recognised.

Following this new policy, the SLDF is now at DEFCON 3.

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

By order of the Imperial President, all Federation Military Forces are hereby ordered to assume DefPos Bravo, under Rules of Engagement Alpha-2. Any attacks on Federation or Allied Assets are to be responded to at the Unit Commander's disgression.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/chief.gif John 117, Minister, Military Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

All Thelas Impirial Forces are now at Defcon 2. This includes forces from Thelas, The Taidan, and The United Hiigarans.

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

What the heck is this? AMF is on Earth. We're not going anywhere.

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

What the heck is this? AMF is on Earth. We're not going anywhere.

and even if he is in space, if EOTED needs it, allot of these nations that are goin to help EOTED have LARGE space navies.

All Thelas Impirial Forces are now at Defcon 2. This includes forces from Thelas, The Taidan, and The United Hiigarans.

OOC: DEFCON 2 is normally saying you're at war, so who are you supporting?

All Thelas Impirial Forces are now at Defcon 2. This includes forces from Thelas, The Taidan, and The United Hiigarans.

OOC: DEFCON 2 is normally saying you're at war, so who are you supporting?

Defcon 2 is high alert just about to go to war, Defcon 1 is total war

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

What the heck is this? AMF is on Earth. We're not going anywhere.

But he has territories in 47 Ursae Majoris, so to make it stick he's going to have to throw his fleet at the Nemesis Gate. If he does so, it automatically involves all of Chromestar (his whole "AMF is EOTED territory" did anyways, but not to the extent that an attack would).

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

What the heck is this? AMF is on Earth. We're not going anywhere.

But he has territories in 47 Ursae Majoris, so to make it stick he's going to have to throw his fleet at the Nemesis Gate. If he does so, it automatically involves all of Chromestar (his whole "AMF is EOTED territory" did anyways, but not to the extent that an attack would).
How big is chromestar?

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

What the heck is this? AMF is on Earth. We're not going anywhere.

But he has territories in 47 Ursae Majoris, so to make it stick he's going to have to throw his fleet at the Nemesis Gate. If he does so, it automatically involves all of Chromestar (his whole "AMF is EOTED territory" did anyways, but not to the extent that an attack would).

Wrong. If the government and the nation on Earth is eliminated, the territories are not of any concern.

1) They will fall on their own, without the central government.
2) They will become new nations, way out in 47 Ursae Majoris.
3) They are no threat to Earth's stability, the primary concern of EOTED and the Federation in this matter.

4) Thelas, leave it alone.

OOC: This means that for the "AMF is EOTED territory" crap to stick, you're going to have to throw your entire fleet at the Nemesis gate in 47 Ursae Majoris to have even half a chance. We wish you luck, you're going to need it.

What the heck is this? AMF is on Earth. We're not going anywhere.

But he has territories in 47 Ursae Majoris, so to make it stick he's going to have to throw his fleet at the Nemesis Gate. If he does so, it automatically involves all of Chromestar (his whole "AMF is EOTED territory" did anyways, but not to the extent that an attack would).
How big is chromestar?

OOC: Seventeen members, and the few who aren't in the billions are getting there.

Omz222, you are a member of the Chromestar Alliance, your support of the EOTED can be construed as treason. We urge you reconsider your declaration of support.

Omz222, you are a member of the Chromestar Alliance, your support of the EOTED can be construed as treason. We urge you reconsider your declaration of support.

We are member of the Chromstar alliance? We were a member of CAW, that's true.

Until when the Chromstar Alliance has formed, we lost all communications to the command of the Alliance, and as the Alliance is space-based, we quit.

There must be some old documents hanging around. If we are attacked for this so-called "treason", then we will defend ourselves.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

To Scandavian States

Something surprises us. You say the Chromestar Alliance has seventeen members, all of them in or near a billion denizens. Yet of all these nations, of which you are apparently one of the smallest, you are the only one speaking here.

Have you not noticed this? So this might mean two things. The first option is that you are speaking out of line, without authority. The second alternative is that this alliance allows its youngest nation to represent it an bully it around. Could you please clarify why this alliance, that you present as being very strong, is not able to come up with a collective response?

Also, the reply made by Omz above, is yet another display of your incompetence in our eyes.

(ooc: or it could mean he's the only one on right now....) :roll:

As a former member and co-founder of the Chromestar Alliance, Neo-Wu feels obligated to protect 47 Uma from any hostile attack. Our space fleets will be positioned at the Nemesis Gate, in case an attack happens.

(ooc: Glad to see you guys are still using my Nemesis Gate idea. :wink: )

To Scandavian States

Something surprises us. You say the Chromestar Alliance has seventeen members, all of them in or near a billion denizens. Yet of all these nations, of which you are apparently one of the smallest, you are the only one speaking here.

Have you not noticed this? So this might mean two things. The first option is that you are speaking out of line, without authority. The second alternative is that this alliance allows its youngest nation to represent it an bully it around. Could you please clarify why this alliance, that you present as being very strong, is not able to come up with a collective response?

Also, the reply made by Omz above, is yet another display of your incompetence in our eyes.

I have and all it means to me is that most people have things to do on Saturdays. I didn't have anything to do this morning, so I was the first to notice and speak out about it. As for Omz, we could care less what he does or believes, our saying notifying him of his supposed membership was meant to either remind him or deny his memership and it served my purpose. On the whole, you are being very presumptious and it would serve you well to stop being so.

Isn't assuming that we committed this "treason" a bit... stupid?

We deny that we have any membership in the Chromstar Alliance, as we don't even possess space warfare technology.

Again, if we are attacked for this "treason", we may respond with a full retailiation attack.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

By the way, apart from the ranting we all seem to be doing, could anybody toss me some links where I could read up on the Nemesis Gate? If I'm going to get involved, I want to deliver good roleplay.

Also, we have examined this so-called Chromestar Alliance that AMF seems to be connected with. We had never heard of it before, and question it's power and influence, though we might be wrong in assuming that this alliance is relatively powerless. As for the UTP, we know many respected nations are a part of that, and therefore we are confident that they will see the wisdom in this development, and will not act to keep AMF's leader on his throne.

The Star League External Security Service continues to be shocked at the relative imcompatence of enemy intelligence services, although it is beginning to sink in that most national leaders think they know enough to not have to properly fund their intelligence services.

The Chromestar Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57574&start=0) actually sort of evolved from the Coalition Against War.

In fact, after abandoning most of his nuclear program, among which the HOUNDs, AMF decided to create a Coalition Against War(CAW), which would intervene either diplomatically or militarilly to end a major conflict.

The Grand Duchy became associate member of the CAW, due to AMF's mistrust to Dominion/GDODAD nations.

It is to be reminded that the Grand Duchy was also a member of the Dominion/GDODAD until it was dissolved by The Silver Turtle.

Back on subject now.

This CAW as it was only lasted not even more than a week, due to AMF's leaving of Earth.

Neo-Wu, the second in command of the CAW was the one behind the name "Chromestar".

What happened later is still a mystery to the scribes and scholars of the Duchy, but it would seem that AMF and Neo-Wu sort of decided to leave Earth and take a couple of members with them, kicking everyone else out.

The Grand Duchy has never received any clarifications on the subject of revocation of its membership with the CAW, which, diplomatically speaking, put the High Council of the Duchy into a "certain degree of diplomatical mistrust, disgust and hostility" towards the respective nations of Neo-Wu and AMF.
In english - the High Council was pissed off, since it deems that the Duchy deserves at least the right to be informed on the revocation of its membership status within an organization.

The Chromestar, even if orginally "evolving" from the CAW, resembles in nothing the CAW.
It has been seen, that the leader of Chromestar - the 'famous' AMF, in place of stopping conflicts, initiated wars and mass murders.

This concludes this short incursion into the history of the Chromestar.

If the scribes of the Duchy have interpreted something wrongly, we urge you to correct us, so that the information is recorded properly into the History and Chronicles books.

Thank you for your attention.

I do not believe the CA has been called into action as a whole in its history, any nation may do as s/he wishes and as far as the rest of us are concerned it isn't our business, so long as it doesn't involve the CA as a whole.

Then its not an alliance, it sounds more like a conglomerate...

Btw, you're the smallest and yet you speak in the name of the entire Chromestar...

Is this authorized by the Charter of the CA?

The Legacy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1373166#1373166) floated far from earth, beyond the moon, for fear its sheer mass would cause unwanted effects. However, far from Earth was still within easy communications range ...

and a beam of light, coded and encrypted transmission, shout out and touched it.

In his cold and distant mind, Rhion lay in an amniotic vat, feeling the soothing touch of the regenerative waters unknot his muscles and regenerate his tissue. The ship's computer, which he still didn't understand - calculations based on quantum foam and chaos theory, Eve had told him the last time she had tried to explain it - projected angled beams of light against a microthin sheet of tricolor particulates to produce an image.

And the image showed text, a plea, a warning of a possible attack by nations who's ships broke the laws of general theory, and a reminder - a reminder of the Price, and the Reward.

He brushed away one of the tears of blood that occasionally traced a path down from his eyes, and spoke into the attentive darkness.

"Send this message to Meneus Down: The Legacy will take necessary action should anything meeting the terms of our treaty - materiel impossible to fight using non-Omega level technology - threaten the country and my yet-to-be-born wife."

The ship's form then turned, and waited. Sensors reached out to find transmissions between the Earth-based Automagfreek and her declared allies, Skager, Scandivian States, and others, and 47 Ursae Majoris.

After all, the Legacy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72274&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) did not need the Nemesis gate to travel faster than light to the alleged home planet; it's Alcubierre system worked in an entirely different way. If necessary, Rhion could ask Eve to bring the power of the Ark to bear, after all.

Although he'd rather he didn't have to.

By the way, apart from the ranting we all seem to be doing, could anybody toss me some links where I could read up on the Nemesis Gate? If I'm going to get involved, I want to deliver good roleplay.


The only information is on the Chromestar boards (which you wouldn't be able to view), but I'll tg you the information about it. (I have a whole mess of stuff on the Nemesis Gate from back when I created it a couple months ago.)

OOC: Thanks. Space rp is already difficult enough, so any info will be very much appreciated.

IC:

The fourth and fifth fleet have been mobilized to hold large scale exercises. Today, both fleets moved away from their normal positions, and met up in an undisclosed sector of space.

The first, second and third fleet are already on stand by, defending the Stratos Shipyards, the Sajuuk Gate and the space above Sisgardia.

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VTX

In response to this continued pressure from Scandavian States, Omzian People's Liberation Air Force and Army has conducted several live ammunition exercises, including bombing amphibious forces, setting mines, and using B-52I Bomber aircraft to monitor water areas.

Cruise missile testing from ground launchers, bomber aircraft, and patrol cutters are also scheduled, to be fired at the direction of south, but they all will land in International Waters. Tested include the BGM-210 Naginata Cruise Missile, the BGM-211 Firebolt High-Speed Anti-Ship missile, and Harpoon anti-ship missiles mounted on truck launchers.

This shall not be viewed as aggresion by all nations. This is just an exercise.

Firing at the exercise and cruise missiles may trigger a conflict.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

Ah, so escalation is your game, hmm?

But you miss an important detail, Scandinavian States. If the Empire is laying claim to territories beyond the Nemesis Gate, it would contravene any interpretation of international law for you to prevent civilian shipping from establishing trade routes. How, then, can you blockade the Gate?

We assure you, if you deny us access to our territories, we shall be forced to consider your escalation of security level as an intent to cause war and react accordingly.

Oh, and a small detail... we happen to be calling up reserves.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

"To claim that Automagfreek is a vassal territory of EOTED is idiotic and makes me question the intelligence of your leaders. Neo-Wu is ready to defend its ally AMF once war erupts. Oh, and don't deny your warmongering intentions, either. Most people here understand all you wish to do is bring destruction and turmoil to countless millions.

We will defend and resist to the very end."

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Innocence Proves Nothing

"To claim that Automagfreek is a vassal territory of EOTED is idiotic and makes me question the intelligence of your leaders. Neo-Wu is ready to defend its ally AMF once war erupts. Oh, and don't deny your warmongering intentions, either. Most people here understand all you wish to do is bring destruction and turmoil to countless millions.

We will defend and resist to the very end."

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Lord-Strategist Jiang Wei, Minister of the Foreign Foray
Innocence Proves Nothing

That's a bit extreme, isn't it?

~ Ambassador Nejure

It is not us who have aroused this conflict. Nay, it is yourselves. We offered the Empire of Automagfreek a peaceful solution, and you stepped in with your offers of war and destruction. Should war erupt, know it is on your heads, and not ours.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

"What is extreme is your demands to Automagfreek. They are impossible to uphold, and you know it. You are just looking for an excuse to flaunt your military presence."

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Innocence Proves Nothing

It is not us who have aroused this conflict. Nay, it is yourselves. We offered the Empire of Automagfreek a peaceful solution, and you stepped in with your offers of war and destruction. Should war erupt, know it is on your heads, and not ours.



"Perhaps I should offer your people a ridiculous ultimatum to hand over your entire country to the Empire of Neo-Wu without resistance, then blame you for wanting war when you refuse."

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Innocence Proves Nothing

*tag*

It is not us who have aroused this conflict. Nay, it is yourselves. We offered the Empire of Automagfreek a peaceful solution, and you stepped in with your offers of war and destruction. Should war erupt, know it is on your heads, and not ours.



"Perhaps I should offer your people a ridiculous ultimatum to hand over your entire country to the Empire of Neo-Wu without resistance, then blame you for wanting war when you refuse."


I'll note that AMF has yet to refuse or accept the offer of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, and yet his allies provoke war. What a foolish group of allies they have made for themselves.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

"Mr. Currey, I do hope you understand you are not fooling anybody. Damien will refuse, and you know it. Hell, EOTED knows Damien will refuse as well. Yet you continue to put words in my mouth about wanting war.

Perhaps you should approach this at a different diplomatic angle before your allies make their strike."

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Innocence Proves Nothing

"What is extreme is your demands to Automagfreek. They are impossible to uphold, and you know it. You are just looking for an excuse to flaunt your military presence."

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Innocence Proves Nothing

Perhaps it escapes your attention, little one, but if we had wanted war, we would have brought the war to you... and not given chance for consideration.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

The Grand Duchy nearely feels sorry for AMF...

5 pages of useless arguing and threats to read through... :shock: :?

Hmm, it would appear that war is imminent. But no matter, this does not affect Wretchengard directly. We will, however, be watching.

Arman Grimwald
Lord of Foreign Relations

"And yet, you are bringing war to us all. You are using this foolish ultimatum as a stepping stone for your warmongering intentions. Tell me, how would it look if you just made a strike at AMF, without your demands? The international community wouldn't take to kindly to it, right? So you make your demands in order to make the attack look less like a cowardly surprise raid.

A clever ploy, indeed. Too bad your attempt at it proved fruitless."

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Innocence Proves Nothing

OOC: Wow...how nice to know that I'm already being claimed as EOTED territory....

Listen carefully, MOST OF YOU DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN MY NATION!!!!! I have explained this A SHITLOADof times, ok? This is really starting to piss me off, and it's poor roleplay to say that I've "been going too far". YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT I'VE DONE!!! Which is why I'm sooooo tempted to write this off as using OOC and undisclosed info for IC purposes, and I'm sick of explaining it over and over and over. I thought you were a better RPer than that, Ma-tek....guess not.

IC:


The Empire wishes to know what Ma-tek has been smoking. You know damn well we will not accept such offer, so making it was a waste of time. As for "genocide", we gave New Sparthans several days to evacuate, and several nation's sent fleets to extract the civilians. The ones that chose to stay became fair game after NS used chemical weapons aggressively on AMF troops.

Where's your fucking condemnation of that? I certainly don't see any. As for your little lapdogs, they only flock to your banner now because they know not what will lie ahead of them should you choose to strike. not only the full might of AMF will coe into play, but the might of all our allies as well.

We suggest Ma-tek stop warmongering. You will find nothing blood and death in AMF.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

We would like to note that the nation of Automagfreek has done nothing when the Rogue nation of Roania stripmined the southern portion of New Spartha, and brutalized the New Sparthan people.

This is an evidence that Automagfreek supports imperalism, annexnation, and crimes against humanity.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

We would like to note that the nation of Automagfreek has done nothing when the Rogue nation of Roania stripmined the southern portion of New Spartha, and brutalized the New Sparthan people.

This is an evidence that Automagfreek supports imperalism, annexnation, and crimes against humanity.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

AMF forces left immediatly after our job was done. We laid no territorial claims, and pulled out all of our forces. Your claims are unsubstantiated.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

AMF forces left immediatly after our job was done. We laid no territorial claims, and pulled out all of our forces. Your claims are unsubstantiated.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

Left immediately?

Have you people no thought of protecting the New Sparthan people from burtalization from Rogue, Imperial nations?

Common sense, you know. Common sense can only be avoided when someone avoid it on puprose.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

OOC: Wow...how nice to knwo that I"m already being claimed as EOTED terrotriy. :roll:

Listen carefully, MOST OF YOU DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN MY NATION!!!!! I have explained this A SHITLOADof times, ok? This is really starting to piss me off, and it's poor roleplay to say that I've "been going too far". YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT I'VE DONE!!! Which is why I'm sooooo tempted to write this off as using OOC and undisclosed info for IC purposes, and I'm sick of explaining it over and over and over. I thought you were a better RPer than that, Ma-tek....guess not.

IC:


The Empire wishes to know what Ma-tek has been smoking. You know damn well we will not accept such offer, so making it was a waste of time. As for "genocie", we gave New Sparthans several days to evacuate, and several nation's sent fleets to extract the civilians. The ones that chose to stay became fair game after NS used chemical weapons aggressively on AMF troops.

Where's your f--- condemnation of that? I certainly don't see any. As for your little lapdogs, they only flock to your banner now because they know not what will lie ahead of them should you choose to strike. not only the full might of AMF will coe into play, but the might of all our allies as well.

We suggest Ma-tek stop warmingering. You will find nothing blood and death in AMF.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

[OOC: I don't give a damn what you write or don't write. This has nothing to do with the complaints people have made or whatever the hell you're talking about. Just run with it.]

IC:

Perhaps you misunderstand us; no matter. We shall be in contact shortly.

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad

Left immediately?

Have you people no thought of protecting the New Sparthan people from burtalization from Rogue, Imperial nations?

Common sense, you know. Common sense can only be avoided when someone avoid it on puprose.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

We left immediatly after "A New Begin[n]ing" regional forces relieved us. You cannot blame us for what Roania did, common sense should tell you that.

And it's nice to see your true stance on AMF, Omz. And to think, we though quite highly of you.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

OOC: Wow...how nice to knwo that I"m already being claimed as EOTED terrotriy. :roll:

Listen carefully, MOST OF YOU DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN MY NATION!!!!! I have explained this A SHITLOADof times, ok? This is really starting to piss me off, and it's poor roleplay to say that I've "been going too far". YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT I'VE DONE!!! Which is why I'm sooooo tempted to write this off as using OOC and undisclosed info for IC purposes, and I'm sick of explaining it over and over and over. I thought you were a better RPer than that, Ma-tek....guess not.

IC:


The Empire wishes to know what Ma-tek has been smoking. You know damn well we will not accept such offer, so making it was a waste of time. As for "genocie", we gave New Sparthans several days to evacuate, and several nation's sent fleets to extract the civilians. The ones that chose to stay became fair game after NS used chemical weapons aggressively on AMF troops.

Where's your f--- condemnation of that? I certainly don't see any. As for your little lapdogs, they only flock to your banner now because they know not what will lie ahead of them should you choose to strike. not only the full might of AMF will coe into play, but the might of all our allies as well.

We suggest Ma-tek stop warmingering. You will find nothing blood and death in AMF.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

OOC: Well, people do know about the Halls of the dead, though not nessasairly what goes on there, eh? And since people who go in don't seem to come out, well..

As well, you did publicly broadcast the exicution of that colonel. Also, the civilains of NS had nothing to do with the chemical attack against you, infact, the civilians offered no resistance to your troops, but yet, you still gave orders to slaughter them.

In anycase:

IC:

"You read the headlines already I see." High Protecter Jee Leng Tan asked his prime minister.

'Yes... and I can already hear the cries of "Vengence" comming from the NS Refugee sector." Stanley Ipkiss replied.

"We gonna do something about it?" Tan asked.

"What CAN we do about it? Augmentation isn't finished yet and we do not have any FTL space assets in which to bring to bare. Also, we CAN'T USE our LRV-SB's."

"It's 2 million people Stanley."

"And over 500 million others to worry about."

"What can we do then?"

Ipkiss sighed.

"I don't know..."

Ah, so escalation is your game, hmm?

But you miss an important detail, Scandinavian States. If the Empire is laying claim to territories beyond the Nemesis Gate, it would contravene any interpretation of international law for you to prevent civilian shipping from establishing trade routes. How, then, can you blockade the Gate?

We assure you, if you deny us access to our territories, we shall be forced to consider your escalation of security level as an intent to cause war and react accordingly.

Oh, and a small detail... we happen to be calling up reserves.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

We would not blockade our own territory or that of our allies, that would be counter-productive. What we will do however is not allow EOTED shipping into 47 Ursae Majoris and we'll do it without firing a shot.

Go ahead and declare war, you you will be invading nothing more than embassies with token guards. Our main presence is elsewhere in the universe.

Oh, and a small detail... we don't care, I can assure you that the only place of combat that you would hold dominance over us is in space and maybe air, the ground belongs to us.

[OOC: I don't give a damn what you write or don't write. This has nothing to do with the complaints people have made or whatever the hell you're talking about. Just run with it.]




OOC: Oh, so you're just randomly looking for a fight? Nice to know you're a warmongerer. :roll:

And why the hell should I just "run with it"? I don't think an explanation is out of line.

We left immediatly after "A New Begin[n]ing" regional forces relieved us. You cannot blame us for what Roania did, common sense should tell you that.

And it's nice to see your true stance on AMF, Omz. And to think, we though quite highly of you.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-
Of course. But you did invade New Spartha didn't you? You made the mess, you clean it up.

As for the second comment, we also thought highly of you... until the aftermath fo the invasion of New Spartha.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

As well, you did publicly broadcast the exicution of that colonel. Also, the civilains of NS had nothing to do with the chemical attack against you, infact, the civilians offered no resistance to your troops, but yet, you still gave orders to slaughter them.



IT WAS JUST THE COLONEL'S DEATH THAT WAS BROADCAST!!!!!!!! NOT THE CIVILIANS!!!

Jesus Christ, I'm TIRED of explaining this!

As well, you did publicly broadcast the exicution of that colonel. Also, the civilains of NS had nothing to do with the chemical attack against you, infact, the civilians offered no resistance to your troops, but yet, you still gave orders to slaughter them.



IT WAS JUST THE COLONEL'S DEATH THAT WAS BROADCAST!!!!!!!! NOT THE CIVILIANS!!!

Jesus Christ, I'm TIRED of explaining this!

OOC: *cough* I ment the civilain's death inside of NS proper, still during the invasion, not in the Halls of the damned.

Flight Officer Oxtoby sighed. Deployment.

The entire group.

AMF satellites were now claimed by EOTED, so they should be able to go right upto them.

Right? That was the idea anyway. But the Federation didn't make stupid officers. AMF was rebelling against Imperial Rule. He and his buddies could expect to be fired upon.

He finished the checklist. His Longsword was ready to launch. He waited for a moment, and then...

...he was slammed back into his seat with the acceleration of the EM launch tube. As he cleared the station, his drive field snapped to life, killing the acceleration effect on his body.

Power flowed through the systems as the reactor spun up. He moved towards his destination, a former AMF satellite near the station. He was unsure of its purpose, only that his orders were to go within a kilometer of it.

And so he would.

And all around him, the nearly 500 fighters of the First Federation Station Fighter group did the same, each taking position a kilometer away from their ally's satellites.

Then they waited.

Of course. But you did invade New Spartha didn't you? You made the mess, you clean it up.

Our job was done, we had no further business with NS. And I like how you're trrying to dictate AMF's war policy. He wanted the fight, so he got it.

As for the second comment, we also thought highly of you... until the aftermath fo the invasion of New Spartha.

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

Your actions are unwise, old friend.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

OOC: *cough* I ment the civilain's death inside of NS proper, still during the invasion, not in the Halls of the damned.

OOC: They were captured, and the ones that CHOSE to stay behind were killed. Happens all the time in RL, look at Vietnam.

Flight Officer Oxtoby sighed. Deployment.

The entire group.

AMF satellites were now claimed by EOTED, so they should be able to go right upto them.

Right? That was the idea anyway. But the Federation didn't make stupid officers. AMF was rebelling against Imperial Rule. He and his buddies could expect to be fired upon.

He finished the checklist. His Longsword was ready to launch. He waited for a moment, and then...

...he was slammed back into his seat with the acceleration of the EM launch tube. As he cleared the station, his drive field snapped to life, killing the acceleration effect on his body.

Power flowed through the systems as the reactor spun up. He moved towards his destination, a former AMF satellite near the station. He was unsure of its purpose, only that his orders were to go within a kilometer of it.

And so he would.

And all around him, the nearly 500 fighters of the First Federation Station Fighter group did the same, each taking position a kilometer away from their ally's satellites.

Then they waited.

Godmod.

EOTED can't claim shit that's still mine.

OOC: *cough* I ment the civilain's death inside of NS proper, still during the invasion, not in the Halls of the damned.

OOC: They were captured, and the ones that CHOSE to stay behind were killed. Happens all the time in RL, look at Vietnam.

OOC: you mean the ones that I didn't have room for in my ships and were trapped in cities whilst you murdered them in their homes, as per your "kill anyone not in a AMF uniform" orders?

(ooc: this is all getting extremely out of hand. We have arguments over what AMF decided to do after he was done with NS, and people who have decided that all satellites of AMF's are now EOTED's.)

OOC: you mean the ones that I didn't have room for in my ships and were trapped in cities whilst you murdered them in their homes, as per your "kill anyone not in a AMF uniform" orders?

When chem weapons start getting tossed around, soldiers tend to get a little pissed.

(ooc: this is all getting extremely out of hand. We have arguments over what AMF decided to do after he was done with NS, and people who have decided that all satellites of AMF's are now EOTED's.)

Hence why my finger hovers above of IGNORE button, for use of OOC and non-disclosed IC info.

Flight Officer Oxtoby sighed. Deployment.

The entire group.

AMF satellites were now claimed by EOTED, so they should be able to go right upto them.

Right? That was the idea anyway. But the Federation didn't make stupid officers. AMF was rebelling against Imperial Rule. He and his buddies could expect to be fired upon.

He finished the checklist. His Longsword was ready to launch. He waited for a moment, and then...

...he was slammed back into his seat with the acceleration of the EM launch tube. As he cleared the station, his drive field snapped to life, killing the acceleration effect on his body.

Power flowed through the systems as the reactor spun up. He moved towards his destination, a former AMF satellite near the station. He was unsure of its purpose, only that his orders were to go within a kilometer of it.

And so he would.

And all around him, the nearly 500 fighters of the First Federation Station Fighter group did the same, each taking position a kilometer away from their ally's satellites.

Then they waited.

Godmod.

EOTED can't claim shit that's still mine.

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]

OOC: you mean the ones that I didn't have room for in my ships and were trapped in cities whilst you murdered them in their homes, as per your "kill anyone not in a AMF uniform" orders?

When chem weapons start getting tossed around, soldiers tend to get a little pissed.

OOC: true, but, still, it does make a tiny black mark on your warfighting recored, eh? ^^;;

Flight Officer Oxtoby sighed. Deployment.

The entire group.

AMF satellites were now claimed by EOTED, so they should be able to go right upto them.

Right? That was the idea anyway. But the Federation didn't make stupid officers. AMF was rebelling against Imperial Rule. He and his buddies could expect to be fired upon.

He finished the checklist. His Longsword was ready to launch. He waited for a moment, and then...

...he was slammed back into his seat with the acceleration of the EM launch tube. As he cleared the station, his drive field snapped to life, killing the acceleration effect on his body.

Power flowed through the systems as the reactor spun up. He moved towards his destination, a former AMF satellite near the station. He was unsure of its purpose, only that his orders were to go within a kilometer of it.

And so he would.

And all around him, the nearly 500 fighters of the First Federation Station Fighter group did the same, each taking position a kilometer away from their ally's satellites.

Then they waited.

Godmod.

EOTED can't claim shit that's still mine.

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]

OOC: so it's one of those "We claim this even though you still have complete control over it" things?

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]


Pfft, please. Claiming a sovereign nation for yourself is something I'd expect from a noob.

And BTW, STOP underestimating me. I've realy grown sick of you elitist Dec.-Feb. nations thinking nations like me aren't shit.

Flight Officer Oxtoby sighed. Deployment.

The entire group.

AMF satellites were now claimed by EOTED, so they should be able to go right upto them.

Right? That was the idea anyway. But the Federation didn't make stupid officers. AMF was rebelling against Imperial Rule. He and his buddies could expect to be fired upon.

He finished the checklist. His Longsword was ready to launch. He waited for a moment, and then...

...he was slammed back into his seat with the acceleration of the EM launch tube. As he cleared the station, his drive field snapped to life, killing the acceleration effect on his body.

Power flowed through the systems as the reactor spun up. He moved towards his destination, a former AMF satellite near the station. He was unsure of its purpose, only that his orders were to go within a kilometer of it.

And so he would.

And all around him, the nearly 500 fighters of the First Federation Station Fighter group did the same, each taking position a kilometer away from their ally's satellites.

Then they waited.

Godmod.

EOTED can't claim shit that's still mine.

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]

OOC: so it's one of those "We claim this even though you still have complete control over it" things?

[OOC: Yes.]

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]

(ooc: That was perhaps the dumbest statement I have ever read in my long history of dealing with idiots on Nationstates. Perhaps you could learn how to roleplay before claiming things just because you feel like it.)

IN RELATED NEWS: The Emperor of Neo-Wu decided today that all of EOTED belongs to Neo-Wu now. No resistance is expected.

:roll:

OOC: true, but, still, it does make a tiny black mark on your warfighting recored, eh? ^^;;

That's why soldiers get court marshaled.

OOC: your soldiers got CM'ed?

Because of confusions around whether Automagfreek is or isn't EOTED's territory, and the whole aftermath, we will... monitor this situation closely instead.

OOC: your soldiers got CM'ed?

Yes, although it's not normally headline news. Even the Sentinels have a code of honor.

OOC:
Stop derailing this with OOC, AMF, Canada-Germany.

AMF get on IRC so we can work this out.

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]

(ooc: That was perhaps the dumbest statement I have ever read in my long history of dealing with idiots on Nationstates. Perhaps you could learn how to roleplay before claiming things just because you feel like it.)

IN RELATED NEWS: The Emperor of Neo-Wu decided today that all of EOTED belongs to Neo-Wu now. No resistance is expected.

:roll:


So if I annex Neo-Wu, I will get EOTED which has AMF...

Wow! That makes some great territory! :shock:

Now, seriously - what is this shit about going like that and annexing other nations by saying that they are yours?

If you want to annex something - take your tanks and good luck!

If not - then what the hell is your problem?

Or am I too outdated about NS politics?

And as of AMF's abuse of human rights...

IT WAS WAR!!!

In war - you have to survive and to survive - you have to kill.
As simple as that.

If there is a military installation in a city - rase the city, destroy the installation.

As for executions of Spartan civilians after the conflict...

Uhm, frankly, personally - if I get a choice between staying and getting massacred or being evac'ed to safety - I jump into the first helicopter or dropship and get the hell out of there!

Execution of enemy officers - if I am winner and I have enemy high ranked personel, once they are useless...
What do you expect me to do with them?
Hang'em high!

All this arguing is sooooo futile...

Well, anyway, I now have to think what to make of all the new territories I have just acquired 8)

OOC: your soldiers got CM'ed?

Yes, although it's not normally headline news. Even the Sentinels have a code of honor.

OOC: oh.. ^^;; in which case, nm, ^^:;

IC:

"Turn to channel 3."

"Eh?"

The TV in the Prime Minister's office turns on.

"... recived reports of a protest going on in West Country. This is where most of the NS refugees have choosen to settle." the tv blaired.

"Well... shit." Ipkiss swore.

[quote=Ma-tek]

IN RELATED NEWS: The Emperor of Neo-Wu decided today that all of EOTED belongs to Neo-Wu now. No resistance is expected.

:roll:

OOC: *snickers*

IC:

In recent hours the Panteran Homeland Guard has been brough to full alert and some 60,000 inactive Reavers have been called to duty.

From this moment forward Panteran Sea and Airspace is declared No-Fly. Encroaching aircraft and vessels will be given one curt warning, and then destroyed. There will be no mercy for those who would attack our home.

Valhalla's Fleet has been ordered to prepare to sail, and are currently awaiting orders from the Lord Reaver. Units and fleets abroad have been ordered to come to full readiness, an Panteran Allies are urged to increase thier alert status.

Should war come, the Reavers will be ready, and on my honor we will exact a terrible price for your insolence. Make no mistake, we hunger for blood and fire, and we shall welcome it.

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

[OOC: Oh, please... As far as EOTED and FSP are concerned, AMF is an EOTED territory. That's that. You, although technically perhaps the valid government/whatever, are considered to be 'rebels'. Thus, it's flavour. Not godmodding.]

(ooc: That was perhaps the dumbest statement I have ever read in my long history of dealing with idiots on Nationstates. Perhaps you could learn how to roleplay before claiming things just because you feel like it.)

IN RELATED NEWS: The Emperor of Neo-Wu decided today that all of EOTED belongs to Neo-Wu now. No resistance is expected.

:roll:


So if I annex Neo-Wu, I will get EOTED which has AMF...

Wow! That makes some great territory! :shock:

Now, seriously - what is this shit about going like that and annexing other nations by saying that they are yours?

If you want to annex something - take your tanks and good luck!

If not - then what the hell is your problem?

Or am I too outdated about NS politics?

And as of AMF's abuse of human rights...

IT WAS WAR!!!

In war - you have to survive and to survive - you have to kill.
As simple as that.

If there is a military installation in a city - rase the city, destroy the installation.

As for executions of Spartan civilians after the conflict...

Uhm, frankly, personally - if I get a choice between staying and getting massacred or being evac'ed to safety - I jump into the first helicopter or dropship and get the hell out of there!

Execution of enemy officers - if I am winner and I have enemy high ranked personel, once they are useless...
What do you expect me to do with them?
Hang'em high!

All this arguing is sooooo futile...

Well, anyway, I now have to think what to make of all the new territories I have just acquired 8)

We find these terms to be absurd in every way. We will assist AMF fully should the EOTED actually try and enforce this... horse-shit.

We find these terms to be absurd in every way. We will assist AMF fully should the EOTED actually try and enforce this... document.

Document? A better term would be Farce. Perhaps sham? Absurdity? Buftoonery? Charade? Horse-shit? That's it.

We find these terms to be absurd in every way. We will assist AMF fully should the EOTED actually try and enforce this... Horse-Shit.

Yeah, I like that one alot better.

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

While we are not going to be able to provide any type of support, save logistics, to AMF, should one speck of Panteran soil be so much as stepped on by EOTED or it's supporters, we shall launch large scale military manuvers against EOTED operations in the AMF or Panteran theatres of war, if one does surface. Until then, we will remain waiting for a war that should not come.
*Secret RP*
At the airbase Sierra Foxtrot Romeo 2, the MC/V-16 Pegasus IIs loaded up for a long range mission. The mission was standard for Marine Recon, Reconnisance, Search, Disrupt, and Destroy. Although nobody had entered, and none had launched, all people and machines were ready to mobilize the minute war broke out.

We find these terms to be absurd in every way. We will assist AMF fully should the EOTED actually try and enforce this... horse-shit.

We do not liken ourselves to such flavorful words... but if there is ever a time to use them, this is it.

Horse shit it is.

We find these terms to be absurd in every way. We will assist AMF fully should the EOTED actually try and enforce this... horse-shit.

We do not liken ourselves to such flavorful words... but if there is ever a time to use them, this is it.

Horse shit it is.

OOC: Heh. Our barbaric ways are rubbing off...

We are amused at the grandiose claims of Neo-Wu, but calmly note that while Neo-Wu is incapable of making good on its claims, we are quite capable of making good on ours.

Furthermore, we note that any nation aiding AMF (in the event of a war which you all so clearly hunger for) will meet the full force of IDF AF precision surgical strikes.

Do not interfere.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

I find this entire situation unacceptable in the extreme. The policy EOTED seems to have of interfering with the internal machinations of another nation is quite frankly, a disgrace.

They claim they act in the interests of World Security. I myself have not felt threatened. I recall no time in recent or past memory of requesting EOTED to protect me from the 'evils' of my neighbors by taking it upon themselves to judge who is and who is not fit to rule themselves.

Granted, I have been less than pleased with the recent actions of Automagfreek as well - and for similar reasons. I saw no real diplomatic efforts, outside of threats against those who thought to create an alliance against him. He saw a percieved threat - he moved to pre-emptively squelch it. EOTED is doing the same here.

I cannot in any way shape or form support either in their actions.

To the leadership of EOTED - your blatant attemts to stir up war, and unveiled threats do not become you. I urge you to reconsider your actions and words in this matter. Surely, if you disapprove, there are other avenues to be exploited before such declarations are made.

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

Furthermore, we note that any nation aiding AMF (in the event of a war which you all so clearly hunger for) will meet the full force of IDF AF precision surgical strikes.

Do not interfere.


Screw you. You made this "list of demands" knowing that we would resist. Stop fucking cowering, you want war with us, admit it.

If there's one thing I cannot stand, it is a coward such as yourself.



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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

We are amused at the grandiose claims of Neo-Wu, but calmly note that while Neo-Wu is incapable of making good on its claims, we are quite capable of making good on ours.

Furthermore, we note that any nation aiding AMF (in the event of a war which you all so clearly hunger for) will meet the full force of IDF AF precision surgical strikes.

Do not interfere.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

Read my lips... we... do... not... care... what... you... say... you... can... shove... your... ann..ex...ation... where... the... sun... does... not... shine.

After emergency meetings with the High Administrative Council of Omzian Democratic Republic, and after we view the current situation, we formally withdraw our support to EOTED in this matter.

Our conclusion is, although the nation of Automagfreek has made mistakes, but does EOTED have to punish AMF to the extreme?

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

Our conclusion is, although the nation of Automagfreek has made mistakes, but does EOTED have to punish AMF to the extreme?

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

They have no right to punish anybody for anything. They are forcing their will upon us unjustly.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

We do see reasons to denounce Automagfreek's recent actions. Our point is, is it "worth it" to enforce peace via violence?

Does not anyone try legimate peace negotations, where nations set reasonable terms?

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

We do see reasons to denounce Automagfreek's recent actions. Our point is, is it "worth it" to enforce peace via violence?

Does not anyone try legimate peace negotations, where nations set reasonable terms?

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

AMF has a "don't fuck with us, we won't fuck with you" policy. If anybody deserves sanctions, it should be Ma-tek. They are ruthless aggressors, and the international community needs to do something.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

Our conclusion is, although the nation of Automagfreek has made mistakes, but does EOTED have to punish AMF to the extreme?

Honjak Ukan
Foreign Affairs Minister

They have no right to punish anybody for anything. They are forcing their will upon us unjustly.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead babies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-


We're sure the people of New Spartha will find this statement highly amusing.

We're sure the people of New Spartha will find this statement highly amusing.

You obviously have no idea about what happened in New Spartha. They spat in our face many times after we tried reasoning with them. We used diplomacy up and down, but still they persisted.

They wanted a fight, and they got it.

These are two different situations, so get your info right and stop confusing them.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

True on the fact that the nation of Automagfreek has made New Spartha a mess.

Therefore, we will declare our nertuality in this conflict.

Near Stahlstadt the TSA keeps monitoring.

There is bewilderment directed at EOTED, disapproval at AMF, and as for Scandavian States, who managed to lose a resource war with the Anthill when the Anthill was acting completely out of its element... contempt.

OOC:
Well, AMF did ask me to help, so Ill put my forces under his command, everyone ends up being happy

Yes, by blanket-ignoring ignoring future tech as DT, I ignore this puppet. BTW, Dark Terror was made by a friend, this was made by myself, so this is no worse puppet-use than done by Ma-tek.
IC:
At AMF's request, we are dispatching the following forces to aid him:
• 28 Hilzhun class corvettes
• 14 Maraz class frigates
• 8 Kulak class destroyers
• 6 Razgrom class cruisers
• 4 Belgorod class carriers

ooc:

First off, I believe this is a load of crap. Semir, you are doing this just because you want to flex some sort of muscle and use your EOTED numberwanking. I know, I have done it too.

AMF has done nothing that EOTED would know about IC that would possibly give cause for an EOTED annexation, and you know it. The Halls of the Dead crap is pretty much known, but that is AMF's own people. Terrorists, criminals, people that diserve to die. Hell, it happens all over NS where the government grossly abuses their own people, but has EOTED ever cared about that until now?

You do not like AMF for whatever reason, and you are doing this out of pure OOC spite. Sure, the AMF government commits incredible acts of cruelty and oppression to its people and to the citizens of conquered nations. However, the vast majority of it is done in secret with not even AMF's closest allies knowing anything about it.

This is all a load of OOC bullshît and everyone envolved knows it.

ic:
###BEGIN TRANSMISSION###
~>Route: Automata X1 - Angelus Mainframe - EOTED/AMF Conflict
:
{We do not percieve this as being overly justified. The warmongering of}
{the Empire of Eternal Dawn is quite surprising to Us. However, We would}
{like to point out that such actions are generally expected from AMF, and}
{not the governmental seat in Ma-Tek.}
{Angelus is put in an interesting position. We have treaties and alliances with}
{both parties envolved in this conflict, and both sets were written with the}
{expectation that neither nation would go to war with each other.}
{So, as you can imagine, this puts Us in a rather precarious position, as We}
{have not only sworn peace with the EOTED, but sworn to help protect AMF}
{Furthermore, as AMF is a member of the Ur Trade Pact, We must also take}
{into consideration the fact that this could potentially endanger existing (and}
{lucrative trade routes.}
{Thus, We have come to a consensus on something, and have decided to}
{offer a third option.}
{We do not believe that AMF should become the vassal state of anyone, not}
{even Ourselves. However, in the hopes for the furtherence of peace, We}
{propose that AMF come under the jurisdiction of Angelus. We would allow}
{AMF to keep their sovereignity, but with a certain element of control. We}
{are offering a specialized Augment that could be installed in all AMF citizens}
{that would allow for Angelic observance of day-to-day activities, as well as}
{to provide a sort of...buffer against the violent and warmongering tendancies}
{that AMF has shown in the past.}
{Basically, We are offering that all of AMF citizens become faithful followers}
{of the Church of Angelus.}
{Of course, there are benefits to this for all envolved. AMF would retain its}
{status as a Sovereign nation, EOTED would be granted limited observance}
{rights, the Church of Angelus would recieve new followers, and the world}
{as a whole would be saved the destruction that would ultimately be brought}
{forth upon it as a direct result of an AMF/EOTED conflict.}
{This is what We offer. We also advise that the leadership of both Ma-Tek}
{and AMF think long and hard about this offer before a final decision is made.}
:
~>Route closed
###END TRANSMISSION###

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Automata X1
First-of-Thirteen

http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate/images/trium_insig.gif (http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate/)
Membership: Triumvirate of Yut, Ur Trade Pact, Deus Ex Humana Consortium

"I deeply urge all nations involved to consider diploymacy. If these ations go to war, there will be major bloodshed. Bloodshed that EOTED and Automagfreek will never recover from."

-- Robert Theallas
http://rken.galeon.com/aoshishinomori.jpg

OOC:

At last, Milantos has returned to Nationstates! And he is here to say:

EOTED, get your ass off that broomhandle and stop being a jackass!

Furthermore, we note that any nation aiding AMF (in the event of a war which you all so clearly hunger for) will meet the full force of IDF AF precision surgical strikes.

Do not interfere.


Screw you. You made this "list of demands" knowing that we would resist. Stop f--- cowering, you want war with us, admit it.

If there's one thing I cannot stand, it is a coward such as yourself.



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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

If nothing else, this certainly gets a response.

Whereas before, all communications had been audio/text, this one is quite full-colour crystal-clear video and audio.

The Empress Rialla ux-Rihad perches on her throne of pure platinum, with the High King Semir-randil seated besides her on his slightly smaller identical copy.

Semir-randil speaks first-

Perhaps it is noteworthy that the Empire did not precipitate violent speech in this incident. Firstly, we merely acted to promote stability - and we carried large-scale support.

Yet now, the rogue state in question bleats its agonistic cries, mewling like a lamb in a ditch, and you all crumble?

Rialla smiles faintly, and continues in a smooth tone-

And yet this cur is perfectly within their rights to take exception to our claims. We are reasonable people. Yet observe: how rapidly do they return to their primitive, basically violent instincts? Too quickly! And this underlines our very reasons.

OOC:
Well, Ill probably leave this thread and let AMF do what he wants with those ships, but Milantos, feel free to leave at any time.

Whereas before, all communications had been audio/text, this one is quite full-colour crystal-clear video and audio.

The Empress Rialla ux-Rihad perches on her throne of pure platinum, with the High King Semir-randil seated besides her on his slightly smaller identical copy.

Semir-randil speaks first-

Perhaps it is noteworthy that the Empire did not precipitate violent speech in this incident. Firstly, we merely acted to promote stability - and we carried large-scale support.

Yet now, the rogue state in question bleats its agonistic cries, mewling like a lamb in a ditch, and you all crumble?

Rialla smiles faintly, and continues in a smooth tone-

And yet this cur is perfectly within their rights to take exception to our claims. We are reasonable people. Yet observe: how rapidly do they return to their primitive, basically violent instincts? Too quickly! And this underlines our very reasons.

Listen, you egotistical BITCH, we are not your pets, we are not your slaves. You laid down those terms knowing FULL WELL that we would resist, and hence you get your war. Let's face it, that's what you want, you want a piece of AMF. Your beating around the bush with this whole matter isn't fooling anybody.

I adivse against any intrusion into AMF territory or assets.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

Near Stahlstadt the TSA keeps monitoring.

There is bewilderment directed at EOTED, disapproval at AMF, and as for Scandavian States, who managed to lose a resource war with the Anthill when the Anthill was acting completely out of its element... contempt.

That's for a different time and place, but even if it were true it would be worth it as I intercepted missiles that could have been the WMD that TPA is known for.

Upon recieving word from Angelus, Damien scowled.

Great, EOTED is trying annex us, and now Angelus wants to sieze the opportunity and do the same.....

Damien started to issue a response, but decided not to.

So terribly violent, aren't you? And aggressive. My, my, my.

~ High Lord Aquinall

So terribly violent, aren't you? And aggressive. My, my, my.

~ High Lord Aquinall

Yes, that pretty much sums YOU up. Stop trying to spin what's happening: it's YOUR aggression that is causing this.

You are nothing special, I can see right through you and your lies.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

ooc:

AMF, TG for you.

Aggression? What aggression? We have displayed none.

~ High Lord Aquinall

~High above Neo-Wu, space fleets begin live fire drills and emegency scenario drills, preparing for the war that EOTED has been hinting at for quite some time. Back on earth, troops do the same, as the Tiger Navy and Army ae being alerted of the danger.~

Several TIMS satilites shifter their positions, they were now looking out. Some had moved to look at EOTED fleet yards, more had shifted to observe Automagfreek allied forces on the ground. Several cloaked slip-probes had been sent to observe the Nemesis gate. To every one in Thelas High Command who knew about the preparations, knew that Thelas was preparing for war.

Ok Auto im here.Can I get a quick summary?Im going out ina bit.

Aggression? What aggression? We have displayed none.

~ High Lord Aquinall

Your skills at lying are weak. For such a "superior" creature, your skills of persuation are substandard.

The world knows exactly what you're trying to do by laying down those terms. You are setting up a scenario for war, and you are trying to make it look like our fault.

I'm not buying into it though. Now, kindly stay away from our territory, and all will be well.

Good day.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

To Damien Dreadfire, Greetings.

I would respectfully suggest that if you truly wish to garner support for your efforts against EOTED that you learn to moderate your tone, and choose more fitting words of diplomacy and protest. You are making no points for yourself among those who might be willing to help, or at the very least, argue for you.

It is a leader's responsibility to represent their nation well. You are letting your anger and frustration get the better of you. That in and of itself holds as much charm as the blatantly arrogant claims of your opponents.

As yet, no one has taken action against you, merely bandied words about. And in that arena, they have beaten you already, in tact and skill.

Let us hope you take these friendly words of advice to heart. I would think they could serve you well.

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

"This is in-f*cking sane. They come over saying AMF is far too violent, give us the good citizenship speech, and then decides to incite war with these ridiculous demands that no sane nation would adhere to.

'Agresssion? What agression?' Do these people have Alzenheimers? Oh, you know, the agression by threatening invaision for no apparent reason. Yeah, I'd call that agression."
Corinth looks at the techie and says
"The camera's didn't catch that, right?"
"Nope."

Meanwhile, INTSPACOM mobilizes the Earth Fleet, and several divisions of military units go on high alert.

On the WorldDisc, Blu and X1 float in conference deep within the cspace environment of the Mainframe. The particular "world" they are enhabiting is completely void, and the two of them hang motionless in absolute nothingness.

Blu nods, and suddenly a two-dimensional flatscreen appears, and the details concerning the EOTED/AMF conflict scroll continuously across its dimly-glowing surface.

"Damien is being as hot-tempered as always. We are not sure what his response to Our proposal is going to be." Blu frowns at the screen and shakes her head.

X1, on the otherhand looks slightly amused. "Hot-tempered, Speaker? I would dare say that he is completely uncontrolled, but that would be from a purely emotionless point of view, of course." He smirks slightly, then follows the scrolling data with interest.

Blu suddenly speaks. "What are We going to do if all diplomatic negotiations break down?"

This time, it is Xanone's chance to frown. "Absolutely nothing. As much as Angelus detests EOTED's actions on this, there is nothing that We can do. You know as well as I that Our relationship with the Triumvirate is foremost in all dealings... Even though the EOTED no longer is a part of the Triumvirate, We do believe that any actions against them on Our part would not reflect well on Our standing within the Trium."

Blu nods, and simply remains silent.

Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Truth to Automagfreek:

"We of the Empire have been watching the repellently overt attempts of the self-styled 'Empire of the Eternal Dawn' to annex your noble kingdom. Know well that if they succeed, they will undoubtably kill all of your noble leaders, and enslave your fine people, driving them with whips to fuel the Elven war-machine. Finally, they reveal their true colours, throwing aside the pretence of 'goodness' which has decieved the world for so long. The Empire has fought against the Elves since time immemorial, and so we, and we us our allies of Arda, are willing to aid you against the Elven menace. But should the warriors of EOTED attack first, we shall be unable to promise that there will be no damage to your beautiful nation. The only guaruntee of safety would be for us, united together in one unstoppable force, to strike now, and destroy the Elven scum before they are fully prepared. We await your reply in the knowledge that you, in your infinite wisdom, will make the correct decision."

Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Truth to Automagfreek:

"We of the Empire have been watching the repellently overt attempts of the self-styled 'Empire of the Eternal Dawn' to annex your noble kingdom. Know well that if they succeed, they will undoubtably kill all of your noble leaders, and enslave your fine people, driving them with whips to fuel the Elven war-machine. Finally, they reveal their true colours, throwing aside the pretence of 'goodness' which has decieved the world for so long. The Empire has fought against the Elves since time immemorial, and so we, and we us our allies of Arda, are willing to aid you against the Elven menace. But should the warriors of EOTED attack first, we shall be unable to promise that there will be no damage to your beautiful nation. The only guaruntee of safety would be for us, united together in one unstoppable force, to strike now, and destroy the Elven scum before they are fully prepared. We await your reply in the knowledge that you, in your infinite wisdom, will make the correct decision."

Damien sighed, then replied.

We will keep in touch with you, expect a telegram soon.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Truth to EOTED:

"Our seers have been watching the inner workings of the nation known as Angelus ever since they attempted to attack Arda. We have watched their shipyards, their military briefing rooms, even the most secret meetings of their government. The mind of a machine is no harder to read than that of a man, and what we have seen has been terrible indeed. The leaders of Angelus wish to annex Automagfreek, and join its military and production facilities with their own. They intend to do this with the aim of first gaining ascendency over the rest of the Triumvirate, and then they intend to strike again at Arda. But this is not the full extent of their plan. They wish, quite understandably, to have the willing co-operation of the people of Automagfreek, since that will make them work harder for Angelus, and the way in which they plan to gain the good will of Automagfreek is by destroying Automagfreek's enemies at the first opportunity. We do not believe that we need to explain much furthur...

Naturally, we cannot allow Angelus, an avowed enemy of Arda, to gain such power. Therefore, you can be assured that any attack on either Automagfreek or on Angelus will be supported by the full might of Kalessin and Arda."

OOC: If Arda is supporting Auto, then the Triumverate would support EOTED, then, SATO would be dragged into things, and then well, everything goes down the toilet.

ooc:

Actually, the Triumvirate would not be dragged into anything, at least that is my observation.

I am not so bold as to think that I can speak for the entirety of the Triumvirate.

Also, Kalessin has no idea what he is talking about, and is merely blowing foul-smelling words out of his pompous ass.

OOC: Kalessin, I have newfound respect for your nation, your PsyOps are first rate. God, I hate to think what your intel services are like, but I wouldn't be surprised if they knew about Tempest.

OOC: If Arda is supporting Auto, then the Triumverate would support EOTED, then, SATO would be dragged into things, and then well, everything goes down the toilet.

OOC: Don't be an idiot. The Triumvirate, I'm certain, isn't stupid enough to throw themselves into conflicts just because an alliance they aren't on friendly terms with is involved. Honestly now. I'm in the Trium and you don't see me railing for rallying the troops do you? Pfft.

Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Truth to Angelus:

"Our spies inside the Empire of the Eternal Dawn and the Republic of Sentient Peoples have informed us that these two powers have taken great offense at your proposal concerning Automagfreek, and plan, once they have annexed that unfortunate nation, to make you their next victim. If they were to succeed, it would leave a pair of elven nations, with a long record of hostility towards the Empire, in a position of substantial power. As such we of Kalessin and Arda would be willing to aid you, putting aside our previous differences, if you choose to ally with Automagfreek and strike first to destroy this threat in its early stages. After all, an enemy of an enemy is a friend!"

OOC:

All the above messages are superbly coded. Treat them as unbreakable, and invisible to anyone but the recipients. Also...they are propaganda..they don't need to be based on real intelligence! ;)

"Our spies inside the Empire of the Eternal Dawn and the Republic of Sentient Peoples have informed us that these two powers have taken great offense at your proposal concerning Automagfreek, and plan, once they have annexed that unfortunate nation, to make you their next victim. If they were to succeed, it would leave a pair of elven nations, with a long record of hostility towards the Empire, in a position of substantial power. As such we of Kalessin and Arda would be willing to aid you, putting aside our previous differences, if you choose to ally with Automagfreek and strike first to destroy this threat in its early stages. After all, an enemy of an enemy is a friend!"

ooc:

Kalessin, Angelus has ignored you since the Melkor incident. Plus, I do not put much stock in your ability to offer complete Ardan assistance.

Furthermore, even if this was a true offer (since you have made essentially the same thing to every nation envolved), I have a pretty good idea that Melkor would not be at all willing to aid Angelus in any way.

OOC:

All the above messages are superbly coded. Treat them as unbreakable, and invisible to anyone but the recipients. Also...they are propaganda..they don't need to be based on real intelligence! ;)

OOC: PsyOps are all about bending an enemy to your will, and you seem to be bending three. I don't think any of them will work, but it's class-A stuff just the same.

Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Truth to Scolopendra:

"We have been watching the developing crisis over Automagfreek sovereignty, and it appears that either Angelus or The Empire of the Eternal Dawn will gain power over both Automagfreek and its military. Naturally this would be an unfortunate occurence for both of us, since it would leave a power hostile to Arda in possession of a substantial amount of power, and would cause a large war involving the Triumvirate, which we're sure you would prefer to avoid. Thus, the Empire and our allies in Arda would be willing to support an attempt by Scolopendra to make Automagfreek a Scolopendran protectorship, by force if necessary."

Imperfectly coded message from a location somewhere in Menelmacar to the Kalessin Ministry of Truth:

"I have discovered Menelmacari plans to seize Automagfreek for themselves. Lady Sirithil feels that the military force thus gained would give her the edge over Melkor."

*ignores Kalessin*

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OOC:

*ignores Kalessin*

erm...why?

Oh..and Angelus...you have no way of knowing about the other offers...and Kalessin is Arda delegate and co-founder.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1788107#1788107

ooc:

Notice that my response to you was out of character. I have eyes, and I can read, so ooc, I know everything you have posted in this thread, unless you deleted/edited it out before I could read it.

Furthermore, I still don't think Melkor would be too keen on Kalessin offering Ardan assistance to Angelus.

Lastly, I would not be expecting any sort of ic: reply from Angelus if I were you.

Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Truth to Scolopendra:

"We have been watching the developing crisis over Automagfreek sovereignty, and it appears that either Angelus or The Empire of the Eternal Dawn will gain power over both Automagfreek and its military. Naturally this would be an unfortunate occurence for both of us, since it would leave a power hostile to Arda in possession of a substantial amount of power, and would cause a large war involving the Triumvirate, which we're sure you would prefer to avoid. Thus, the Empire and our allies in Arda would be willing to support an attempt by Scolopendra to make Automagfreek a Scolopendran protectorship, by force if necessary."
Oh, that's a rich one. Thanks guys, I needed a laugh. Anyway, please accept this complimentary fruit basket.

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Thank you, and have an OUT-standing SIS day.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/janus_garbo.gifAdvisor Janus Garbo
Intelligence Section
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

We respond to your call,Thelas.

We respond to your call, Thelas.

"It is good to see you. This might erupt into war, if it does, we will enter on the side of EOTED. As the message stated I am sending a Thelas battlefleet to defend Hiigara, we will use Hiigaran space as our staging area."

OOC: The mothership is from the Taidan, for some reason they used the designs for the Kushan mothership. On this mothership, all the space that was used for cryo pods, are still cryo pods, and also storage. We use a fast acting (only takes about 10 minutes) cryo unit. We freeze the soldiers, while data is being sent directly into their minds from the ships computer

IC: and so 3 Thelas battlefleets allong with the Taidan mothership were launched. inside of the Motheship were 3 million troops and thousands of tanks, K-Mags, and fighters. Thelas was ready to go to war.

>>>Transmission to: AMF war theatre<<<
||From: Kaenian Central Command, WorldDisc||
||Re: Official Kaeneian Response and Alliegence||


At this time, I would like to make clear the points at which I, as supreme leader of Kaenei herself wish to make valid. We fully endorse the Angelus directive in its entirety, and feel it to be an option best not dismissed with the lack of respect it has been generally shown.

Officially, Kaenei does not ally itself to the Nation of AMF [Or its allied states] or to the EOTED [Or its allied states].

We shall observe, but not interact.

Gentleman, is there really no other option avalible to us than to once more stain the earth crimson? Death and savage destruction will not force either party to reconsider its views, or meet halfway. Instead decades, possibly centuries of mistrust and hatred will brew following the conclusion of any "War." Will the victor really benefit from memories that do not flicker or die with the passing of an age or two?

Think not always of the present, but the future, and how the decsions we make now will guide our fates for many years.


I implore you, do not cast lives to the heavens as you would toss another log on a fire.....


There is always another route.

Citizen Caelistis
First Citizen, USSK
Kommandant, DEHC Military

>>>Transmission Terminated<<<

OOC: I personally don't like what is going on in automagfreeks country, but I don't know about it IC.

IC:

Transmission to Automagfreek
*******

Coded
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Sent
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The nation of Watertest supports Automagfreek against this act of EOTED imperialist aggression. We are aware of the conspiracy against your nation and will send finacial, political, and military aid.

Message Recieved
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Terminated
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President Ryan Jordan
Empire of Watertest
Capt. of EOP

High off in orbit the massive Skyhammer fleet slowly reared into action. Orders from Earth had come in that war would be breaking out on the land and Lareg was not one to be left out in the cold, standing naked as the storm comes.

'We FULLY support the Empire of the Eternal Dawn in this action. Daimen Dreadfire, you are the one who is blind to his own mistakes. Look at your people suffering... We have heard a small bit of the current state of Automagfreek, yet we suspect worse than what we hear. These... 'Halls of the Dead' would you mind explaining this to us. We first thought this was a massive cemetery, yet other sources tell us different.'

--Random Diplomatic Officer relaying message

"The nation of Slagkattunger will be neutral in this incident, further more we declare our nation and airspace off limits to both sides and their allies. We do this because we do not want to see any possible conflict between theses powers occuring within our territory, because we believe that neither side will respect our neutrality and would continue to fight should they enter our territory.

We hope that Empire of the Eternal Dawn will back down and propose a more sensible offer to Daimen Dreadfire of Automagfreek. Because should this result in war, as we fear it will, neither side will come out intact......indeed we believe the victor and allies of such a war would be fatally weaken. Indeed so weaken that smaller rouge nations that remain out of the war will get bold and attack the weaken victor & allies, dealing a death blow to those nations. In the end new powers will take the the place of both Empire of the Eternal Dawn and Automagfreek and their allies. And these new powers may be entirely worse than the privious powers....something we do not wish to see happen."

OOC:- If you decide to RP a war...for heaven sake work out the rules first...or it will end up in a mess...like others I've seen.

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Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)

A message has been sent to the following Nations on an open channel:

Ma-tek
Automagfreek
Angelus
Whispering Voices
Scandavian States
Neo-Wu

The President extends an offer and invites the Nations to sit at the table of peace and negotiate an end to this matter without the use of force. The Palace is open to your attendance and will be met with full diplomatic priviledges and resources.

It is apparent that it is in the best interest of these key positions to be on the sides of right. There is no need for sovereignty to be compromised and the price to be paid in the cost of lives.

A seating of seven is to open a dialogue and hammer out a lasting treaty using wisdom, integrity, and uniformity. Reply if attending.

Pyrrhus

We agree to such a meeting, of course. However, we feel that the only nations involved should be Ma-Tek and one nation of their choice, and Automagfreek and one nation of their choice. Having, as it were, two from one side and four from "the other" seems a little ... foolish. Especially since Angelus merely appears to be taking the opportunity to try to gain Automagfreek for itself - although of course appearances can be deceiving.

Is there anything up for discussion? EOTED claims that AMF territory will be, or has been annexed. As anyone can see, Automagfreek remains free. If EOTED plans to make good on its claims, now is the time.

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

We would agree to such a meeting on the condition that Ma-tek be willing to rewrite or simply drop such demands all together and come to the table to discuss grievences like intelligent beings.

Thelas, I cannot support your descision to aid Ma-Tek against AMF. AMF has been nothing but an ally (OOC: to me, anyway) while Ma-Tek has blatantly attacked Milantos in the past, showing either alleigance to Melkor or a strong imperialist tendency.

We urge Thelas to withdraw their troops and to use only diplomatic methods to resolve this conflict, or we may have to get involved.

(OOC: Forgive me if I've got it wrong; I only just skimmed the thread. Also, is there any place for modern-tech nations in this war? Otherwise I might have to um... forget... that I made that offer. :wink: )

(OOC: Forgive me if I've got it wrong; I only just skimmed the thread. Also, is there any place for modern-tech nations in this war? Otherwise I might have to um... forget... that I made that offer. :wink: )

OOC: While mildly flavored with future and even a spice of swords and maces, my Reavers are modern-tech.

(OOC: I guess we should fight any anti-AMF modern-tech nations away from the AMF space battle, then?)

(OOC: I guess we should fight any anti-AMF modern-tech nations away from the AMF space battle, then?)

AMF is primarily modern tech.

Space tech is boring to RP, because I'm not a sci-fi nerd.

The Republic of Tiburon, after carefully weighing all facts and greivances, has decided to prevent the halt of AMF's sovereignity.

OOC: May I please have Gundams? Please? Pretty please?

The Republic of Tiburon, after carefully weighing all facts and greivances, has decided to prevent the halt of AMF's sovereignity.

OOC: May I please have Gundams? Please? Pretty please?

OOC: This is going to sounds really bad...but I don't know what a Gundam is.

:oops:

OOC: I use some Modern Tech 2000-2015

Edit

This is a gundam

http://blastotoys.com/toypics/gundam-0242510420.jpg

If you attack AMF, there will be disasterous consequences for you.

Tiburon will probably be able to explain it best, but basically Gundams are giant robots that are used for fighting. I think. Well, that makes it sound kind of bad; Tiburon'll have to give you details.

Like Mech Warrior...Just Japanized.

If you attack AMF, there will be disasterous consequences for you.

Thank you Whitter.

I trust all is well in your nation now?

We agree to such a meeting, of course. However, we feel that the only nations involved should be Ma-Tek and one nation of their choice, and Automagfreek and one nation of their choice. Having, as it were, two from one side and four from "the other" seems a little ... foolish. Especially since Angelus merely appears to be taking the opportunity to try to gain Automagfreek for itself - although of course appearances can be deceiving.

The following nations were selected as key players in this incident from what I have read in the post so far. I am vaguely familiar with the accusations made by EOTED and also recognize the sovereignty of AMF.

I do not see or sense a relationship between Angelus and AMF in this particular incident.

Phyrric offers the palace due to no entanglements or ties to either and all parties involved except one. SS and Phyrric share an alliance in UNAOTO which is in no way affiliated or involved in this issue and Phyrric is not holding the flag of that treaty in this called conference.

Whispering Voices is called due to alliance with Ma-tek and support thereof.
Angelus is neutral under the TY pact
Neo-Wu as an ally of AMF
SS as protector of the Nemesis Gate under the CA, which appears to access many key points of interest to AMF, EOTED and possibly the TY.

A table of seven dispells a stalemate.

No ties with AMF? Have you forgotten the Melkor War already?

If you attack AMF, there will be disasterous consequences for you.

Thank you Whitter.

I trust all is well in your nation now?
Soon will be. Our new Secretary General is still consolidating his hold on political power.
But our arsenal of nuclear weaonry remains secure and will be used against any nation attempting to nuke yours.

We are also allowing our citizens to hire themselves in to the armed forces of other nations.
As such, 12,000 of our citizens have requested permission to join your military. We have so far only granted permission to 3,000 of these. Their entry into your armed forces is dependent upon your accepting them. They will however, need to be trained.
If you desire, we will grant the others permission to leave Whittier and help your cause as well.

But I must admit that republics are still breaking away here and there.
But that means there will be less expenses for the federal government.

Soon will be. Our new Secretary General is still consolidating his hold on political power.
But our arsenal of nuclear weaonry remains secure and will be used against any nation attempting to nuke yours.

We are also allowing our citizens to hire themselves in to the armed forces of other nations.
As such, 12,000 of our citizens have requested permission to join your military. We have so far only granted permission to 3,000 of these. Their entry into your armed forces is dependent upon your accepting them. They will however, need to be trained.
If you desire, we will grant the others permission to leave Whittier and help your cause as well.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

And sorry for not assiting in your conflict, we had allie's on both sides.

Use the new recruits as you see fit.

Use the new recruits as you see fit.

Thank you, your generosity will not go unrewarded.

In Wazzu, a city nation, paper was a rare and expensive import. That was probably why Bob Cam's call-up came up as priority e-mail. Of course, logistics costs could also have something to do with it. Whatever the reason, a sense of dread overcame him as he read.

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That dread would increase the next 37 times he read it before his family started to trickle in from work and school. His resolve would likewise increase with each loved one who walked through the door. Only when all were home did any learn why he was feeling so bad.

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Bob's family of six sat around their fold-out dinner table in their small apartment. Even the six year old was quiet, they all knew this was serious. After a while, he got the courage to speak up. "Milnet has ordered a general call-up." Eyes went big, a couple gasps escaped, general call-ups were rare, this was serious.

"Daddy, whats that mean?" the youngest daughter asked.

It was Bob's wife that answered, "It means daddy must go away for a while honey."

Confusion crossed the face of the 6 year old. "Why mommy?"

"Because some bad people are doing some bad things, and he has to protect us."

"Can't you do that here daddy?"

"No, I have to go away for a while."

"Like every day?"

"No, much longer."

14 year old Nate hugged his little sister to him, trying to reassure here. It didn't work. The girl couldn't understand what it all meant logically, but the emotions of her five family members were almost tangable in the room. Emotions made sense, she started to cry.

"Dad?" Nate spoke up this time, "I thought it was just a couple little wars, why does it have to involve Wazzu this time?"

"They didn't tell me." Bob responded, "At best guess, probably because they are not small. More troops are moving towards Resi and AMF both, and stuff is going on around Mars...maybe even on the Moon. Too many friendly nations are involved, too many trading partners."

Oh. As we applied for CENNA (still not operative member), we will support Ma-Tek in this matter.

I think that Damien Dreadfire commited War Crimes against the New Spartha population when he conquered the country. Thanks to his actions thousands of mysterious "dissappeareances" were reported. Our intelligence tells me that AMF could be involved in the slaughter of civilians.

Anyway. I will send moral and economic support to Ma-Tek for now, but I will prepare two of our fleets to support our allies should this affair turns into a military conflict. If Thelas enters in a war, I will support them with everything we got, because they're our closest ally.

However, I would like to now the position of Menelmacar and Tor Yvresse in this matter, to act according the interests of the entire Eldar race.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral
http://perso.club-internet.fr/fjy/hagen.JPG

When Sentinels start blowing up due to land mines and dropping dead from chemical weapons (both outlawed by your UN and Geneva Convention), of course they're going to get pissed.

Do as you will, but EOTED WILL stand down from it's mindless aggression one way or another, preferably without war.


http://invisionfree.com:54/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

Oh. As we applied for CENNA (still not operative member), we will support Ma-Tek in this matter.

I think that Damien Dreadfire commited War Crimes against the New Spartha population when he conquered the country. Thanks to his actions thousands of mysterious "dissappeareances" were reported. Our intelligence tells me that AMF could be involved in the slaughter of civilians.

Anyway. I will send moral and economic support to Ma-Tek for now, but I will prepare two of our fleets to support our allies should this affair turns into a military conflict. If Thelas enters in a war, I will support them with everything we got, because they're our closest ally.

However, I would like to now the position of Menelmacar and Tor Yvresse in this matter, to act according the interests of the entire Eldar race.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral
http://perso.club-internet.fr/fjy/hagen.JPG

OOC: Since he handed me the southern portion of the country, you could claim complacence in human rights violations.

But I remain Menelmacar's and Tor Yvresse's most loyal and humble and bootlicking/cowering servant, and had they made their mind clear on the subject I would have acted differently.

Besides, the southern New Sparthans were treated well. If they converted to catholicsm and moved to Roania.

It's amazing how many took that offer.

One thing is a military action against military targets, and another thing is execute and fire against unarmed civilians.

When New Spartha attacked your sentinels, they were a military target. When you made those civilians dissapear, including women and children, that was just plain carnage.

I don't care about the Geneva Convention. I care about honor, and there's no honor in the killing of innocent, unarmed people, no matter what you say.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

....

Diplomatically, EOTED has fallen uncannily silent. Not a whisper issues forth from the Imperial Diplomatic Corps, based out of Nenya.

Yet movement is visible to all who care to watch; the 1 Orbital Battlegroup above Nenya, inside the small pocket of space around the colony Vilya Elenosto, slowly begins to shuffle - positions change, and ranks form.

Tender ships flit between the warships in the group, presumably rearming where neccessary; yet far below, inside the Empire itself, all remains...

...calmly quiet. INN alone appears to pay the threats of war any real attention; and the majority of stories ran on the state-owned network have little or nothing to do with the events occurring in the outside world. EOTED citizens remain, apparently, as much in the dark as the rest of the world - insofar as knowing what the next move EOTED will make goes, at any rate.

The Armed Republic of Blademasters declares its support for Automagfreek and wishes to assist in any space engagements between AMF and his enemies.

-Drayus
Leader Armed Republic of Blademasters
Founder Firestorm Region
Member Galactic Alliance
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/falconrising2/BSS.bmp (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69702)

Furthermore, we note that any nation aiding AMF (in the event of a war which you all so clearly hunger for) will meet the full force of IDF AF precision surgical strikes.

Do not interfere.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

HA! You buffoons have clearly never fought Reavers or Setinels. We have, though techinically a rogue element in our Military. The Regency with AMF and Pantera forces me too place the Templar and AMD (Armored Marine Division), on full alert, we shall sear you from the sky, then we will land, to mop up the mess.

Executor Edmund Dantes

Furthermore, we note that any nation aiding AMF (in the event of a war which you all so clearly hunger for) will meet the full force of IDF AF precision surgical strikes.

Do not interfere.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

HA! You buffoons have clearly never fought Reavers or Setinels. We have, though techinically a rogue element in our Military. The Regency with AMF and Pantera forces me too place the Templar and AMD (Armored Marine Division), on full alert, we shall sear you from the sky, then we will land, to mop up the mess.

Executor Edmund Dantes

I'd increase the intelligence budget for the next year, were I you, if you believe you have any chance of defeating the might of the IDF AF in pitched combat.

Yet again, I note, the Empire is not acting aggressively. AMF and their allies, meanwhile, bandy about militaristic threats and aggression; surely it is plain that our claims that AMF is dangerously militaristic and aggressive are merely reinforced by these very actions and responses.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

"We will of course support EOTED against the horrible regime in AMF.

EOTED`s claims are just and the best for the people of AMF.

They shall suffer the same pain they made others to suffer.

Any details can be talked out in more private locations."

~ Mr. Morden and associates

OOC: If this goes to war and EOTED wants help, I could be sending my fleets to work with Der Angst, how the world changes!

IC: Across the four (if you count the Hiigaran fleet) fleets, the marines were training with each other, Thelasian Marines using stun weapons boarded Hiigaran ships, Hiigaran Marines practiced boarding Thelas ships with stun weapons. Thelasian Elite Marines were practicing landing in combat using dropships in a Hiigaran desert. K-Mags training how to use energy cutters on their riffles to cut off the armor of enemy warships, and then how to plant massive nuclear explocives on the outer hull.

Secret IC

The massive Archan class battleships were armed with a weapon that could be so powerfull to decimate an entire planet. Neutron bombs, loaded with a high powerfull radiation, this short lived radiation could kill off all life on a planet, if needed, and if used in massive amounts.

The Council thought. The Daiamid had not been able to reach full concensus on the issue, and thus they had brought it before the highest ruling body in the Corporation. When the documents and data were given to her, one of the minds connected to her displayed a sense of irony, noting that her presence was more like a Queen than that of a CEO. But, this situation did not call for humour. Objectivity was needed.

She debated, with the twelve intelligences inside her using the ancient Greek form of democratic debate. Mentally, they had shaped a round theater, where they sat and debated.

"We have analyzed all available data, have we not?"

"Yes, we have absorbed and shared it all, except for the things that might still be hidden to our eyes."

"Then the solution should be clear. We should join EOTED. Other allies have already pledged support. The Daiamid has offered their moral agreement with the issue. We should confirm that."

"No, the data is substantial. We know nothing tangible. Much is based on rumour and reputation. Remember our pending applications for CENNA and the Triumvirate of Yut. We need to act with wisdom and display a good sense of judgment."

"Substantial, yes. But he signs his messages with a statement about the dead bodies he leaves in his wake. He invades those smaller than him. He displays a very dominant aggresive state of mind."

"Dilemma. We think he is cruel. Many things seem to confirm this. Yet we can not confirm his crimes with 100% accuracy."

Then, a collective thought surged through the twelve minds. Soon, the Twelve agreed on a course of action, and the following statement was released:

To all nations involved

Each of you knows that the current leader of Automagfreek can not be called "good", in the most common sense of the word. Also, each of you is aware of the recent invasion executed by AMF, and regardless of which cruelties did or did not take place there, it is a fact that it took place.

Also, each of you knows the reputation of Automagfreek in this world. Sadly, you will have to admit that this reputation does not reflect AMF as being led by a good, righteous government or statesman.

Therefore, judging by the very facts that lay in front of us, e.g. the recent invasion and the negative rumours (that have to posses some core of truth, otherwise they would not be so persistant), one could make an educated guess about the real truth.

The Council has made such a guess, and we, the Daiamid, agree with it. The Council has examined the fact and concluded that Automagfreek is indeed a nation of evil, or at least its leadership is. The recent AMF invasion was unacceptable, and we fear that AMf might repeat this with other nations, unless it is stopped in time.

We do not know if the EOTED approach to this issue is a just one. They do, however, have our moral support, since we consider the Ma-Tek leaders to be just, or at the very least rational and mercyful.

Even though we are unsure if annexing all AMF territory into EOTED rule is the right thing to do, we admit we see no other solution to end the evil of AMF, save for a straight out war. Therefore, for the time being, the Vortex Corporation will keep supporting EOTED in this.

The reason is simple: none of you, in all these messages, have offered a serious alternative to solve the issue at hand. The alternative Angelus is offering has just as much chance of resulting in war as the EOTED proposition. As soon as somebody comes up with a better way of ending the AMF tiranny over its own citizens and random nations on its path, we will reconsider.

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The Vortex Corporation Daiamid Council
Imperial Alliance
Corporate Coalition
Templar Alliance
SATO
WTE
SFN

”We bring new worlds to Life”

MODEST NEMIT TRANSMITEL
Nikeaeleth Dominiu, A Queldi Anai

Et: Rakurain Nirstiterel, Derotinuvisorinisteleth Ministriel
Anet: Iro Quildim
Quersi: Anglio

Nikea has been monitoring these events since they first began to become known. Nikea would like to first state that it has little diplomatic contact with either Automagfreek or the Empire of the Eternal Dawn. Although this is the case, Nikea has some concerns with the leadership of Automagfreek, and the general manner in which the nation is run. It is the opinion of the Nikean government that the war with New Spartha was unnecessary and that the war occured for reasons entirely different than what were stated, and our ally Whispering Voices has presented arguments to that effect, which are systematically ignored by the Supreme Warlord of Automagfreek.

Nikea feels the need for diplomatic negotiations to end this conflict on a peaceful note that is agreeable to both sides. However, should conflict erupt, Nikea offers moral support to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn until further facts become known and further decisions are reached. Nikea feels that the nation of Automagfreek is a global threat in its current state, and hopes that all further conflicts can be avoided.

Rakurain Nirstiterel
Dominion of Nikea
Minister of Foreign Relations

The First and Second Wrath Fleets of Aelosia appeared near the Thelas forces. The Admiral Atheril D'nan sends a message to the Thelas commander.

"We're here to support you and to support EOTED, if our help should be needed. We will stand by and wait for orders. Although I would prefer a pacifical solution, I think Dreadfire must be stopped, in any way".

Another message was sent to the Vortex Corporation:

Apart from open and blatant war, I would propose as a solution the deposition of Damien Dreadfire as the leader of AMF. He must be judged by an international court about the war crimes and the unnecesary killing of thousands of innocents. However, I'm not a fool, I know that AMF won't agree to that solution ever.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

The First and Second Wrath Fleets of Aelosia appeared near the Thelas forces. The Admiral Atheril D'nan sends a message to the Thelas commander.

"We're here to support you and to support EOTED, if our help should be needed. We will stand by and wait for orders. Although I would prefer a pacifical solution, I think Dreadfire must be stopped, in any way".


The message responded from the lead ship, "This is Admiral Hesine of the TMS Archan, it is a pleasure to have you fight with us Admiral, again our nations will fight the threats that arise. We are undergoing boarding drills, do you wish to join us?"

OOC:is there any possibility of me getting a summary?
I would have RPlayed but I was over at Neo-wu's house he hogged the computer. :evil:

That is Outrageous!! I will support AMF through this completely! I stand by you AMF!

If you need any help, my nation will help you.

Sincerely

General Garm Bel Iblis
Minister of Defense, Coreillia

Moments ago the Lord Reaver took to the airwaves and adressed the current situation brewing in Automagfreek:::

"My Reavers, and to other citizens of the world, I come before you today to address the current hostilities between our brother Sentinels and those fools who think to encroach upon thier lands.

Let it be known that this will not stand. The Empire of the Eternal Dawn claims Dreadfire to be a threat to world security, yet it is they who press us for war. Thier reasoning is flawed, yet continually coward nations flock to thier banner, bleating like the sheep they are. The conflict in New Spartha seems to be thier 'best' reason for these hostilities, and a piss poor reason it is, in truth.

The Rulers of New Spartha had claimed thier intention to build an international coalition against the Sentinels. His threats bordered on inslolence numerous times, and I would say that Dreadfire ws more than patient. When the time comes for me to eliminate what I think to be a threat to Pantera, rest assured I will eliminate them. The fools in question were given the chance to surrender, knowing full well the wrath of Sentinels would soon be upon them. This chance for life was squandered by the coward they named as thier king. I say that rather than die a horrible death, I would have risen up and eliminated the fool who reigned over me. Instead these idiots follow thier fool-king into 'bunkers', and rained approval upon him for his decision to use chemical weapons upon his own people, and the Sentinels. They slept with the whore, and then they paid her price, though it may have been more expensive than they would have first believed..

After the threats, lies and utter stupidity shown by the New Sparthan leadership, I believe Dreadfire was more than justified in his actions. Though extreme, most definately not taboo.

So, I will say to this coalition of Cowards arrayed against AMF and its allies: Come. There is nothing further to speak on. Should you find the fortitude to come and conquer, the Reavers will meet you, alongside our brother Sentinels.

Blood, Fire, and screaming death is the only thing you will find in the land you think to make your own. Come, and make good on your coward claims."

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

*Bookmark*

The Empire wishes only for stability and peace - and this entire scenario serves only to display why that wish is needed so greatly. The world falls into barking and scratching with claws at the merest mention of a potential conflict; the sides line up, and the swords come out.

Well, the Empire of the Eternal Dawn has news for you all: all of you hunger for war. All of you hunger for power, and the spoils of war.

And in the same breath, you decry others for wanting the same. Surely this is hypocritical?

And so I return to the primary point of this whole exercise. Stability and peace. None of you care for it - none of you are interested in it. Why should you be? Stability breeds sloth, I'm sure you believe; but what does war bring, pray tell?

We were most kind in allowing AMF a chance to respond. It would have been far simpler - and far less expensive, I might add - to simply drop IDF GF crack troops in his capital. The battle would have lasted minutes alone, AMF would have fallen - and none of you would have had the chance to voice your petty, childish views with the world as a stage.

Yet we did give you that chance. And you have squandered it.

The Empire, however, is not without mercy. We are willing to enter negotiations, with several key points - which we will not voice at this time - being the primary goals of those negotiations.

However, we do feel the need to warn that this offer will be the only offer made; refusal will result in...

...well, I don't need to lay it out in black and white for you, do I?

Finally, though, I would like to note that the support of our allies in this matter has been most welcome; and we have been most impressed by the ability of the Lady Nathicana to continue her honourable efforts towards a peaceful resolution to this situation.

~ Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II

[OOC: Copied from the other thread, as it is just as pertinant here as there.]

Moments ago the Lord Reaver took to the airwaves and adressed the current situation brewing in Automagfreek:::

"My Reavers, and to other citizens of the world, I come before you today to address the current hostilities between our brother Sentinels and those fools who think to encroach upon thier lands.

Let it be known that this will not stand. The Empire of the Eternal Dawn claims Dreadfire to be a threat to world security, yet it is they who press us for war. Thier reasoning is flawed, yet continually coward nations flock to thier banner, bleating like the sheep they are. The conflict in New Spartha seems to be thier 'best' reason for these hostilities, and a piss poor reason it is, in truth.

The Rulers of New Spartha had claimed thier intention to build an international coalition against the Sentinels. His threats bordered on inslolence numerous times, and I would say that Dreadfire ws more than patient. When the time comes for me to eliminate what I think to be a threat to Pantera, rest assured I will eliminate them. The fools in question were given the chance to surrender, knowing full well the wrath of Sentinels would soon be upon them. This chance for life was squandered by the coward they named as thier king. I say that rather than die a horrible death, I would have risen up and eliminated the fool who reigned over me. Instead these idiots follow thier fool-king into 'bunkers', and rained approval upon him for his decision to use chemical weapons upon his own people, and the Sentinels. They slept with the whore, and then they paid her price, though it may have been more expensive than they would have first believed..

After the threats, lies and utter stupidity shown by the New Sparthan leadership, I believe Dreadfire was more than justified in his actions. Though extreme, most definately not taboo.

So, I will say to this coalition of Cowards arrayed against AMF and its allies: Come. There is nothing further to speak on. Should you find the fortitude to come and conquer, the Reavers will meet you, alongside our brother Sentinels.

Blood, Fire, and screaming death is the only thing you will find in the land you think to make your own. Come, and make good on your coward claims."

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

Down, dogs. You bark, but you have no teeth.

~ High Lord Aquinall

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn hereby demands that the Empire of AMF immediately and without pause does henceforth follow the regulations set out in this statement:

1. Automagfreek will, without undue expanse of time between acceptance and enactment, follow the letter and wording of these demands to the letter.
2. Automagfreek will, within the bounds of reasonability, reduce its armed forces to a size approximately 5% of its current armed forces size.
3. Automagfreek will, within the bounds of reasonability, provide all and any evidence within its possession that supports/damages the building case against that nation for undue and erroneous global activities/crimes against sentients/genocide. Failure to comply will result in the information being extracted by EOTED forces.
4. Automagfreek will, for eternity, become a vassal state to the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, with all rights and privelages that come with that status.
5. Automagfreek will swear fealty to the Empress.
6. Automagfreek will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.
7. Automagfreek is henceforth considered a territory aligned with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

Down, dogs. You bark, but you have no teeth.

~ High Lord Aquinall

It seems to me that you are the one who has yet to make good on your boasts.

'Immediately and without pause.' Hah. Dreadfire has told you to stuff your fucking conditions in your ass, and yet 'Immediately' he wasn't punished. It seems if you did have 'teeth' to back up your own 'bark', someone must have already bashed yoru fucking face in and left you spitting them into the dust. If not, come to AMF and Reavers and Sentinels alike will be more than happy to take care of it. Until then, as you say, keep your barking to yourself, because it will not serve you here.

Bastien the Bronze

OOC: Gonna wait for AMF before letting this go any further.

The message responded from the lead ship, "This is Admiral Hesine of the TMS Archan, it is a pleasure to have you fight with us Admiral, again our nations will fight the threats that arise. We are undergoing boarding drills, do you wish to join us?"

"Of course, we want to check our skills and learn some new things. We will join you. It's a pleasure to train our troops with your forces".

You'd think the Empire would have a little respect for a nation that it is not much bigger than, one wonders why they haven't been glassed yet.

[And yes, that was IC. This however is not, you aren't as superior as you think, I haven't yet come across a nation that can effectively counter the equipment that I field and I'm afraid of the Reavers. Hell, even Melkor has respect for them and his Urak'hai are real bitches to deal with. You want to deal with us you'll have to come down from your little space haven and you'd better bring backup.]

[This is an OOC question to Aelosia: How many ships are you fielding? I won't use this IC of course, at least not until my ships come into sensor range of your group, if it comes down to that.]

continually coward nations flock to thier banner, bleating like the sheep they are. The conflict in New Spartha seems to be thier 'best' reason for these hostilities, and a piss poor reason it is, in truth.

After the threats, lies and utter stupidity shown by the New Sparthan leadership, I believe Dreadfire was more than justified in his actions. Though extreme, most definately not taboo.

So, I will say to this coalition of Cowards arrayed against AMF and its allies: Come. There is nothing further to speak on.

Blood, Fire, and screaming death is the only thing you will find in the land you think to make your own. Come, and make good on your coward claims.

We're no sheeps, at least no more that you. About what happened in New Spartha, nothing, absolutely nothing can justify the slaughter of unarmed, innocents civilians.

You are calling us cowards. But you had fallen into dishonor after supporting AMF cowardly actions. There's nothing more coward and dishonorable than kill unarmed enemies. My motivations in this war is not the conquest of land, but the search of revenge and justice.

I'm a Knight, a Gentleman and a Prince. My honor forbids me of keep talking to a man of a inferior status as you. The next time, we will talk with the barrels of our guns and the edges of our swords, that's the only thing you deserve.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral
http://perso.club-internet.fr/fjy/hagen.JPG

The transport shook around Bob as it touched down on the black pavement of Agu Military Aerospace Port. Belts unclipped himself and his coworkers as the back door opened, letting in the cool spring air. He stood up along with everyone else and marched into the bright morning light.

The air in Agu wasn't exactly fresh, but it was much cleaner then the air of Wazzu. That is to say, it was normally safely breathable. But recent weather patterns had pushed out the worst of the contaminants. The air smelt wonderful on the short march to the equipment tent, it was crisp...then dank inside the insulated tarped structure.

The line was short, everything was orginized to be efficient. Bob picked up his pre-packed backpack and uniform bag, signed his name, and made his way over to a series of benches where other part-timers were checking for missing items. The search took him 15 minutes, nothing missing, and he marched off to the next location. Breakfast.

You'd think the Empire would have a little respect for a nation that it is not much bigger than, one wonders why they haven't been glassed yet.

[And yes, that was IC. This however is not, you aren't as superior as you think, I haven't yet come across a nation that can effectively counter the equipment that I field and I'm afraid of the Reavers. Hell, even Melkor has respect for them and his Urak'hai are real bitches to deal with. You want to deal with us you'll have to come down from your little space haven and you'd better bring backup.]

The IDF is nigh-on undefeated in war. There are none to challenge us, with the possible exception of Morgoth (who was defeated by both ourselves and our allies quite soundly in any event) - and thus, there are none to 'glass' us.

~ Ambassador Relhatti

We know we're still a small nation. I know that maybe the reavers and the sentinels could crush us. But we're proud people, as any Eldar nation could be.

((As a matter of fact my navy and my army are small, but very well equipped and trained. I know that my population doesn't allow me to have a very large armed forces, but my overpowered economy and my position in the arms manufacturing nations ranking allow me to make them very specialized and superb equipped. I'm not going to tell you how many ships I'm fielding, because neither you nor your nation knows it IC, but I said that Aelosia sent two fleets. If you do some research in another threads about the Aelosia Wrath Fleets, you could find the answer))

High above Alvarezistan in geosynchronous orbit, the Space Corps begin a full mobilization of forces. Patrol corvettes regroup and form into battlegroup pairs, and IF-2 Arbalest fighters are called back from training exercises and land on the carrier Salek. Alvarezistan's newly produced two heavy destroyers are seen testing weapons systems above the country; the third, fourth, and fifth of such class of vessels are having their productions rushed drastically.

On the ground, it's obvious that large amounts of troops are mobilizing for war. At least three infantry and one armored divisions have gathered within Nokgor, awaiting orders from military High Command and the War Council. In southern New Spartha, Alvar peacekeepers who replaced the Roanian occupiers are hard at work fortifying their positions with anti-aircraft systems and trenches, and can be seen arming the population with all manner of Kalashnikov assault rifles, perhaps preparing from an attack from AMF occupied northern New Spartha. Currently, all signs point to the fact that Alvarezistan is gearing up for war if negotiations fail.

You'd think the Empire would have a little respect for a nation that it is not much bigger than, one wonders why they haven't been glassed yet.

[And yes, that was IC. This however is not, you aren't as superior as you think, I haven't yet come across a nation that can effectively counter the equipment that I field and I'm afraid of the Reavers. Hell, even Melkor has respect for them and his Urak'hai are real bitches to deal with. You want to deal with us you'll have to come down from your little space haven and you'd better bring backup.]

The IDF is nigh-on undefeated in war. There are none to challenge us, with the possible exception of Morgoth (who was defeated by both ourselves and our allies quite soundly in any event) - and thus, there are none to 'glass' us.

~ Ambassador

Well, isn't this interesting. AMF and I field undefeated armies and so do you. I hope that our respective streaks are not tested, it would not fair well for either side and in the end all of us may have to add a "tied" column to our records.

The Empire supports our Chromestar Alliance ally Automagfreek.

Highlight from the conference...

The young general sat idle as the insults flew across the table at each other. He shook his head.

"Frankly...I don't see the difference in whether or not both of you cut down a certain number, or if neither of you cut down anything. Ambassador, the Dreadfire administration appears to not want your protection. It would probably be a good idea not to keep offering them. By "putting him under your protection" you are doing just what he doesn't want...being above him and making him owe you something in return. You would be the "master" then and him the lesser of the two nations."

Warheit cleared his throat.

"As for you not being the aggressors..."

Smiling, the general took a sip of his water.

"Indeed, you have not made any aggressive military action. Yet nevertheless you are the aggressor. How can this be you ask? You told AMF, without any prior notice, that you possessed their nation. You told the world that you were innocent and graceful for not wanting to harm anybody. Did you really think that AMF would just accept this? Of course not. You expected AMF to get fired up and talk of war...and then you played your card. You became to your allies the one being "attacked", attempting to blind the inter-galactic community to your plans. It didn't work, and now you're backpedaling, trying to still get something out of this mess. It won't work. We will not stand for it."

~General Rei Warheit

Perhaps the one good thing about potentially being sent to war was the food. All you could eat, and the absolute best the cooks could make. In Wazzu, this was a double treat, because food was second in price only to living space. In the field, this would also be a double treat, as it was good to put on the calories now just in case you didn't get any later. It hadn't been a problem for Wazzu in over two centuries...but then, Wazzu hadn't been in a truely major war in that time either. Not unless you counted the Arda invasion of EOTED, which never reached the few Wazzu troops there.

But any reason to eat food this varried was good enough for Bob, so it was scarfing down scrambled eggs and toast that he did not immediately notice that someone sat down across from him. "You look like a hungry dog, what have you been eating, parsley?"

Bob looked up. "Shiki? Hey man! Didn't think I would see you until Newport! And thats a mighty big plate you got there yourself."

"Well, I'm a big man," the short Asian replied, "I've gotta have some sustanance." Bob shook his head and laughed, Shiki continued. "I've also got our orders. Well, my orders. But since we're sharing our Mule, we'll have the same."

"Already? When did you get here?"

"Early" Shiki dragged out the word, "I've been in the works since 5am." Bob looked at his watch, 0900.

"So, OK, spill your beans then."

"We're lucky, the other saps have to drive down to Newport." Bob grinned at this news. "We'll load our Mule at 1400 and get a choice berth."

Now Bob's eyebrows drew in. "Why so 'fair'?"

"We're take a 10 Meg near the lines."

"Damn."

"If we deploy."

Bob sighed. "So if we are unlucky, we spend some time close to whatever international hellish front there is. If we are lucky, we spend our time with 2000 other Jarheads on an old Elf-Class for 8 months."

"Better and Worse," Shiki replied and looked around cautiously, "Not the old Elf-Class, the new Sea Serpents."

"Huh?"

"6000 fellow grunts underwater."

"Six thou---!"

"Shhh, it is still quiet."

"Oh, no one here is going to tell, it's not like anyone elsewhere wouldn't know anyway."

"Orders are orders. I only tell you because you'll get the same in half an hour. You better suit up."

"0930, right." Bob took his plate and dumped the remaining contents upon Shiki's untouched stack. He know it wouldn't be that way for long, his little comrade in arms was hyperactive...he needed all the glucox he could get.

"See you in a couple!"

"Righto!"

bump

Chellis might have, at one time, have been supportive AMF, but after AMF had so brutally rejected support in the brief, but important, conflict within north america, chellian relations with AMF were broken down. To note, chellis could have obliterated and annexed AMF when it was a small, 6 million nation, but instead helped it in its first warfare, helped it form the WMNK from that, and helped it in its most desperate time, thier civil war. We were spit in the face for all of this, and so the saliva will drip off the high road unto the low country that will become of automagfreek, one way, or another.

EOTED, You have my support.

Lord Christopher Scott is irate with the current situation. How could EOTED bully another nation around, even though the EOTED is guilty of the same crimes that they claim that AMF has comitted, plus the crime of hypocrasy.

How can EOTED lay claim to a soveirgn nation? What justifies this claim. EOTED may lead you to beleive that they are acting in the interest of national security. However, EOTED is not acting on the basis of national security, but in order to fufil imperialist ambitions. These elves think themselves superior, and wish to push their way of life upon others. They are the guilty party in this conflict. They knew their demands were unnaceptable, and would be met with scorn by many. It was clearly an attmept to induce war with AMF. EOTED and its allies in SATO are nothing short of war-mongering and imperialist fools.

Because of this, I have no choice but to condemn the Empire of the Eternal Dawn in their actions regarding this issue.

Belem will pay AMF 50 billion dollars AMF when/if EOTED is conquered for 1% of Ma Teks land.

Belem will pay AMF 50 billion dollars AMF when/if EOTED is conquered for 1% of Ma Teks land.
OOC: That is likely not going to happen. Even if AMF/allied forces got onto EOTED, SATO and CENNA would get involved. Believe me, that will not be a good sight.

Belem will pay AMF 50 billion dollars AMF when/if EOTED is conquered for 1% of Ma Teks land.
OOC: That is likely not going to happen. Even if AMF/allied forces got onto EOTED, SATO and CENNA would get involved. Believe me, that will not be a good sight.

Which further proves what LCS has said about SATO. There is nothing more dishonorable than throwing your weight around, bullying others, and then hiding behind a huge alliance. If anything, I'd think SATO would simply wash their hands of this matter, because even GDODAD would have done it.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

Belem will pay AMF 50 billion dollars AMF when/if EOTED is conquered for 1% of Ma Teks land.
OOC: That is likely not going to happen. Even if AMF/allied forces got onto EOTED, SATO and CENNA would get involved. Believe me, that will not be a good sight.

Which further proves what LCS has said about SATO. There is nothing more dishonorable than throwing your weight around, bullying others, and then hiding behind a huge alliance. If anything, I'd think SATO would simply wash their hands of this matter, because even GDODAD would have done it.

http://invisionfree.com:54/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
"Everywhere I go, I'm always leaving dead bodies..."
-Damien Dreadfire inauguration speech-

OOC:
*washes hands*

*decides to go to DEFCON 4 just to be sure*

You don't want this to get ugly.
~Resident SATO lapdog