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Haaregradian military sources have released information about the still very secretive Pave Shield program. Haaregradian scientists have developed a new technology that is cheaper and more effective than traditional stealth programs. Anatoliy Korotyeyev, a member of the Haaregradian Academy of Sciences and director of the Keldysh research centre, is quoted as saying that the technology can create a 'plasma field' around a plane, significantly reducing the aircraft's reflected radar signals and reducing its radar visibility. When the device is activated, the plasma 'cloud' was not visible, but ground radar screens would show nothing. Korotyeyev went on to state that the device was small enough and light enough (around 100 kg) to be placed inside an aircraft and not harm the pilot or avionics.

OOC: yes this is real tech, based on(and plagerized from) this story:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pcropper/html/body_news.html#ten

semi-secret ic:

The Haaregradian Armed Forces has already equiped many of their front-line aircraft with these. They are supplemented by designs oriented towards "low observability" for a mix of passive and active stealth. We may be selling these someday, but not yet.

bump, does anyone care?

Ah we already have high altitude bombers with that capability from Calarca. But we do like your tech ideas.

OOC: Do you even know what a plasma is?

Ah using the term a little more loosely than most would, a specific ionized gas is what they are talking about. Not Plasma as most would orginally define it (Had that argument with Clarca then figured it out)

Ah using the term a little more loosely than most would, a specific ionized gas is what they are talking about. Not Plasma as most would orginally define it (Had that argument with Clarca then figured it out)

OOC: ????

A plasma is not the same as an ionized gas.

A plasma is a completely ionized gas. It is a neutrally charged gas in which electrons are not bound to (orbiting) nucleuses.

Basically, that means a plasma is very hot.

Plasmas require a lot of energy, do not last long in an atmosphere (they "discharge" in less then a nanosecond), and they certainly could not be kept around a fast moving plane.

I think a little more research has to be done on the mechanics of this if you don't want to call it "future-tech" (as I would personally dispute the claim of the "Russian Scientists" involved).

Ah using the term a little more loosely than most would, a specific ionized gas is what they are talking about. Not Plasma as most would orginally define it (Had that argument with Clarca then figured it out)

OOC: ????

A plasma is not the same as an ionized gas.

A plasma is a completely ionized gas. It is a neutrally charged gas in which electrons are not bound to (orbiting) nucleuses.

Basically, that means a plasma is very hot.

Plasmas require a lot of energy, do not last long in an atmosphere (they "discharge" in less then a nanosecond), and they certainly could not be kept around a fast moving plane.

I think a little more research has to be done on the mechanics of this if you don't want to call it "future-tech" (as I would personally dispute the claim of the "Russian Scientists" involved).

OOC: I don't plan on making great use of it in the future, it seems like a waste of energy more then anything. I haven't a clue how it works, I have yet to find any information on how it works.

OOC:
Plus, if it's that hot, it's a big fat target for IR systems.

There's an article somewhere on aeronautics.ru about it.

OOC:
Plus, if it's that hot, it's a big fat target for IR systems.

Unless it manages to avoid being superhot...


Article :arrow: http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/plasma/index.htm

Yes, it's plasma, plasma is simply Ionised gas, whether theres just a few electons knocked free or all of them is just a matter of semantics, surely you wouldn't call a 1Watt, .01Amp 12volt current not electricity just because you have a 2GigaWatt, 10,000 Amp, 100,000Volt electric source.

Yes, it's plasma, plasma is simply Ionised gas, whether theres just a few electons knocked free or all of them is just a matter of semantics, surely you wouldn't call a 1Watt, .01Amp 12volt current not electricity just because you have a 2GigaWatt, 10,000 Amp, 100,000Volt electric source.

Not to discredit your obvious intelligence, power (watts) are a product of voltage (volts) and current (amps). Now, you can not have a 12v current because voltage is NOT current, but the shift in potential energy as a current is applied to a resistance. Second, a watt of power could only correspond to either .01A and 10volts or .08333...Amps and 12 volts. Likewise 2GW requires 10,000A and 200,000 volts or 100,000 volts and 20,000 amps.

Please send your scientists back to high-school physics.

sorry my bad.... one keg beer + 4 guys = failure of elementary physics lobe of the brain... lol. I just pulled numbers from the air... which probably isn't the best place for them to come from...

Anyhow, must go, theres still beer left in the keg. I need to finish it, if I don't burst or die of liver failure/Alky poisoning first.

THis is a very good Idea... we may look into it... you can count on a telegram of interest in the future.

You're a bit behind the times, we've been using this for years, and are developing new technology which will make it obsolete.

You're a bit behind the times, we've been using this for years, and are developing new technology which will make it obsolete.

You're a bit behind the times, we've been using this for years, and are developing new technology which will make it obsolete.

References? Links to posts where you researched, developed, bought the tech. how it works...
do you have anything? or are you just making a plain boastful unsupported statement? only 59 posts leads me to think the latter.

I have signifiacnt amounts of work involved in my A-1000 SSAP (Stealth SupraAtmospheric Attack Plane) as in links Here, (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45165) where I develop the plane and tech, and go into the methods of radar suppression and high speed capability in depth. Also Here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52439) where it underwent testing versus an opposition military.

Good info on the working of the plasma as stealthing device too.