NationStates Jolt Archive

During the last three years, there has been an increasing number of engineering groups pointed towards one single, massive project -the Craftworld.
Originaly theorized and designed by proffessor Elminst Norovir, more than half a century ago, Craftworlds are both a simple and extremely complex concept, and that would be the construction of a completely artificial planet.

For quite some time, scientists and engineers left this project away due to it's extreme level of fantasy and scale. However, recently, this idea has begun winning a good place in the engineering community of the Federation...

Sixty years ago, when the Federation first began working on deep space technology, several new discoveries on how planetary mechanics work. This, summed up with the extensive previous knowledge on the called GaiaTeks -a serie of sciences and studies about the basic functions and machinations of planet Earth, as well as the ability to duplicate them-, led to the collective thought that the Craftworlds may not be that impossible after all.

A recent meeting of scientists and engineers, in which these and more ideas were exploited, threw in some of the reasons on why it would be possible, with the actual technology, to develop such a project:

-"Extensive Core/Compression knowledge": After almost one and a half century, we have completely understood how the inner structure of a massive body, such as a planet, berhaves under it's own gravitic pull, as well as the constant stress generated by rotational and tranlational movements.

-"Vast Terraforming and Structural Modification": Under the current technology, we are able to generate practically any possible climatic and terrain feature, in controled conditions. We have also developed enough technology to change the very way composites and elements berhave, thus granting us the power to build and control anything we want.

-"Highly advanced Space Mechanics knowledge": We know how things work in space, and how to treat them. We have a vast understanding on the myriads of forces and variables that plague space, and we have developed ways to control them.


The board also discussed the viability of such a project, and these were some of the conclusions:

-"Gigantic scientific benefits": The Craftworld project not only means that we will be required to stretch our knowledge and techniques to the extreme, but it also will force us to develop technologies under completely different conditions. We are talking of a "planet" here, one completely designed, built and controled by us. The scientific benefits are endless.

-"The key to expansion": Although our science has allowed us to advance in every possible aspect, we remain geatly behind on the expansionist agenda. By undertaking this project, we can ensure a permanent and extremely powerfull stance in the progressively claimed and populated spaceland.

-"A true man made Garden of Eden": We make the world, we tell it how to be. We will no longer fall under the chaotic rules that define the nature of real planets. Instead, we will be able to make every single guideline of this world, making it a true dream.

-"Important Military goal": Taking this project is not only creating a new place, but also a potential military and defensive core. We will not only be designing a world, but a machine of incredible proportions. If we make the right choices, we can practicaly create a planet that will not only defend itself, but become the single greatest weapon ever consieved by our engineers.


Another topic discussed circled around the design, and how would the Craftworld actually work...

-"A Smart World": Smart Materials are the key and major feature we can implement in this project. By using these incredible composites, the world will always remain at our feets, making exactly what we want it to do. Through the use of SM we can forget about structural failures. By the use of simply a computer, we can order the world to fix itself. Of course, however, this will require the constant watch of security systems. But, with the use of integrated structural diagnosis systems, we can have a constant up to date report on every single atomic join in the planet.

-"A Mini-Earth": Since we will control aspects such as gravitics and rotation, there is no need to make a planet just like Earth. A smaller version of it would be more than enough, six times smaller. This would mean a Craftworld of about two thousand kilometers in diamenter, or nearly 6200 km in perimeter. More than enough to make whatever we need on it.

-"Just like a clockwork toy": We can put everything on the inside, thus makig things easier, and granting us a much larger space as well. Elements such as an atmosphere, sun light, radiation protection and others would be easily made, since we would be workingin confined space. Just like the ancient tales of Star Wars, told hundreds of years ago, in which the bad guys had a huge moon-like machine. The concept becomes much simpler with than analogy.


However, during the meeting, the possibility of a multicooperation version of the project was brought. That is why we have compiled this very small overwiew of the project to be shown before the members of the WTE.
We would like to hear opinions, suggestions and if there is any other nation interested on participating in this gigantic project.

Sounds reminiscent of Cradle.

Perhaps insight could be gained from observing the Chiron Project. We haven't heard much from the CMC lately, but we'll check up on it for you.

We must assume that you are exaggerating when you say the planet could be made only 1kilokilometer in radius, as that would require an average density of approximately 35 g/c^3, just over 1.5 times the density of osmium, in order to maintain 1g of gravity.

A correct gravital balance can be achieved by the use of raw neutronium cores, allocated in specific points of the superstructure, around it's surface and near the center. This way we can, through the use of dismemberment mechanisms (which literaly serve to tear appart atomic structures), modify at will the overall hyperdensity of the raw neutronium cores, therefore granting a relatively quick control above the gravitic pulls around the planetoid.

This system would allow us to use technically any size we would desire for the planetoid, since the gravital pull of the structure itself would not be required to maintain the constant inward acceleration of 9.8 m/2^2.
Keep in mind that raw neutronium has a density of the order of 10^14-10^15 gr per cubic cm, so it would easily outweight any other gravitic field present within the planetoid.

Though it is true that neutron superfluid / neutronium could be used to increase the gravitational force, we find two problems with its use:

1. The slightest malfunction in any containment mechanisms would be disastrous, as contact between neutronium and normal matter almost always results in strangelet production and enormous energy release.

2. The gravitational gradient would be high, lessening the ability to hold an atmosphere, and increasing the incidence of light-headedness and nausea among the inhabitants.

1.-Indeed. However, the only way to actually eb able to work with raw neutronium is through the use of an energy-less enviroment, or Cassimir Bubble. All neutronium we produce is treated under those fields, to then be downgraded into non-harmfull materials. Therefore, and thansk to several years of experience, there should be no outbreaks of the material.

2.-The existance of an athmostphere would not be necessary, as for the Craftworld would technically work as a large station, in which the enviroment remains concealed.
However, we had not considered the possible dificulties with equilibrium looses among the inhabitants, and that will be put into study.

(OOC: sorry if this is a private thing I but when I was reading it I remember somethign along those lines anywyas I found some a picture (by Don davis) for someting called the O'neil Cylinder.

here's a picture of it

http://www.l5news.org/graphics/oneillbridge-800.jpg


here's the link to the site

http://www.l5news.org/oneillcylinder.htm

it's slightly different but it might help you with the whole problem of lighting the planet

We have read and analyzed everything that was available on this subject. Unfortunately, we have come to the conclusion that the Corporation is not able to fully coöperate in such a project. This is simply because our scientific studies and levels are not yet advanced enough to comprehend a complex entity such as the Craftworld, even we, the Council, have difficulties with comprending the entire concept.

However, this does not mean we can not assist in parts of the process, instead of the project as a whole. Labor force, computers, security, funding and most of all terraforming services will be dedicated to this magnificent initiative, as well as deep space mining and transport vessels, might those be needed.

We applaud this initiative, and as said above, we are willing to help and support you to the maximum of our capabilities.

Also, we would like to know if a location has already been selected for this project?

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The Council
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It has occurred to us- even if we find a way to make the use of neutronium practical, what would be the point? All that mass still has to come from somewhere, and we might as well just use regular atomic matter and end up with a much larger planet to play with.

The Dominion of Talkos commends Technocratic Republics in their proposed endevour, surely nothing of such scope has been attempted before. Although we don't have extensive space assets and such the experience needed to contribue more than manpower or money to the project. Though we do wonder about the massive power sources needed for the proposed planetoid, perhaps it be simpler to make it large enough to be a true Dyson's Sphere and be able to harness the power of a contained star or small singularity, or perhaps by using a ring type model which would save on the mass and allow the star itself to be used as a directed defense system.

But, either way, we applaud the FTR in the sheer boldness of this project, and do offer what support we can.

After careful review, it is the consensus of the council that the potential scientific and research benefits of such a project are too great to be ignored.
it is therefore resolved that DLM participation in this project should be full and total cooperation to the extent of our nations abilities.

Forgive the lateness of our reply. We hope you assumed that we would assist in this project because we most certainly will.

~ William

"We will of course do anything neccessary to achive the goals of this project.

As already said by others, the scientific benefits are endless, the potential economical relevance is simply... enourmous, and, well... we would have the biggest damn steel penis in NS."

~ The associates

'What you mean you wish to build one of these?'

Transmission of image follows, Tor Yvresse deep in space Time stamp points to it being an old picture but still, It's a Mammoth Craft, holding roughly half my Population, a Craftworld.

'We wish you every success we can.'

OBJECTION! You won't even allow us to study a craftworld, but you allow them to build one?

OBJECTION! You won't even allow us to study a craftworld, but you allow them to build one?

OOC: Because we are an entire region, plus a dozen or so WTE members. You're just one nation.

IC:

We will also start looking into the possibilities of conencting the various spheres and layers with Stargates.

'Hay they can build whatever they like and call it a Craftworld, it is not Tor Yvresse, or an Eldar Craftworld, for it has no Infinity Circuit, no Wraithbone Core, no soul to put it frankly. It is a Mon-Keigh idea of what they wish to be, not a, and I hope they forgive the use of these terms, True Craftworld as we know it. They are conducting their own research we won't forbid that even if we could, nor will we show them how we do it either.'

OBJECTION! You won't even allow us to study a craftworld, but you allow them to build one?

Its also because the youngest of our nations is still older than you.

The nation of Pilon is most interested in this craftworld. We do not have the technical expertise to help in its construction however we are the best suited to populate the world after its construction, our genetics and the recent Eco-Bomb project will allow a quick and easy means of making a dead rock into a living paradise for all WTE to enjoy. We are busy in a war right now or we would help out more. We do however request all information on the project as it proceeds, we are most interested in how you achieve this monumental goal.

All nations who have expressed their will to participate are mostly thanked. Further specifications and plans of the project will be soon relased at the WTE private forums.

We will be looking forward to it.

[ooc: when you go to the forums, check the SFN issues. We got a little diplomatical riot]

Better late then never as they say...

Alas, dew to an unfortunate turn of events which i will outline at the Grand Assembly, i am no longer abel to speak on behalf of Cairn Tarra, i can however speak on behalf of myself.

Gaining access to this data was a great suprise to me, and, i would like to formally offer my services in the capacity of ‘bioengineer’ or to use the Tarran discipline title ‘Planatoligest’

My duty would be to design and implement an Ecosystem which would be compatible with any ‘alien’ (in this case... from earth) life patterns we which to insert, while allowing for the maximum expansion an manipulation by genetic techniques.
I do not see this as a project to test our already well proven practices in genetic manipulation, more so, to learn about the functioning of an ecosystem by being its soul care taker,
As we will be in control of the ecosystem form the ground up, the amount of data gathered will be astronomical, and its uses and impacts unmeasured,
As im sure your studies have shown, an ecosystem is more then a bunch of statistics, it behaves and acts like a sentient being, moving, reacting, reproducing, growing, consuming resources, and leaving waste, the close hand study of the development of such an ecosystem would provide unquantifiable scientific rewards.

But enough of this, i shall raise this point in the grand assembly.

Teo Holtzman-Wisewood

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