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Chimaea Addresses the UN: Sri Lanka

Chimaea
10-10-2003, 07:36
Speaker: The Chair recognises The Commonwealth of Chimaea.

Ambassador Lee: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Fellow nations,

As you will no doubt know now, the island-nation of Sri Lanka was flattened by an explosion caused by a reactor belonging to United Indiastan. Events then escalated and the Resi Corp, as well as Iesus Christi, have become involved in what looks like another Amerigo. Only this time, the issues are less than clear.

Chimaea is not going to pass judgement on the political issues caused by these events. However, we do have concerns for the safety and wellbeing of the people of Sri Lanka, who might well be caught up in this war. United Indiastan has let down the people they govern.

Therefore, the Empire of Baron will to committ forces for the protection of Sri Lanka in any military exchange. We believe that United Indiastan has displayed its failure to serve and protect the nations in its control.

Chimaea, Clock Hill and Street Island will intervene in Sri Lanka under the banner of the Baron Intervention Taskforce. The support of Snuffopolis and New Rastonia have been gained but are still being negotiated.

We look forward to the cooperation of all those involved.

Thank you for your time.
Chimaea
11-10-2003, 00:47
*bump*

*poke*
11-10-2003, 00:55
I really hate it when war takes places on real life countries.

I'm a Sri Lankan Tamil. My Anscestors are from there. My Grandfather migrated from Sri lanka nearly 90 years ago to Malaysia.


SInce you seem to be a decent Rper, Gradenk would help you and help the glorious people of Sri Lanka to get back on it's feet.

The Gradenk Senate would discuss measures to prevent future defacement of the island of Sri Lanka.
Syskeyia
11-10-2003, 01:05
I'll talk with my generals on how we can help.

God bless,

Benedict Michael Sukothai
President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia
Chimaea
11-10-2003, 01:12
Hi Gradenk,

I'm actually Sri Lankan too :) That's probably the reason I want to bring it under control lol. Thanks for your help :)

I'll telegram you ^_^

Syskeyia:- already telegrammed you before you replied o.O Thanks :)
11-10-2003, 02:41
We are deeply concerned for the plight of the Sri Lankan people, and stand ready to act on the instructions of the Taskforce. East Neukian military and civilian agencies have experience in this field, having recently responded to a nuclear emergency in Kaukolastan.


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Michael Dougan
Defence Minister
The People's Republic of East Neuk Island
11-10-2003, 02:48
[Communication from Ambassador Kerlius I]

We will give you aid in bringing Sri Lanka under new management, in exchange we request that a small portion of the island and people be given over the Synchronized management and so that they may hear The Word.

[Communication Ends]


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Ambassador Kerlius I
There Is Only One, And That One Is Daemon
The Dominion of Synchronized
11-10-2003, 02:51
Empire of Gradenk Special Senate Session:

" We hereby pledge our support and military might behind the nation of Chimae to defend the nation of Sri Lanka. Empire of Gradenk has despatched a huge force to protect the nation of Sri Lanka. Gradenk is hereby sending a strong message to nations intending to attack or derail any chance of peace on the island. Gradenk would not hesitate to bring forth additional resources to finance it's war expenses. "

OOC: Basically, I would use resources from my Protectorates ..NOTE: Money and retinue paid from my protectorates would be channelled to war efforts. And if you wonder how many protectorates I have, I have 3,

Protectorate of Graven,
Commonwealth Of Oxnard Montalvo,
Democratic Republic of Da Crib..

In total ( including Gradenk ) we have a population of more than 2 billion. I usually play with my main nation ( Gradenk and use my other nations ONLY AS a revenue for my main nation. )

Seriously guys / gals. I'm mad that my ancestral place is attacked....even though this is an Rp. I apologise for the above rant but I hope you all would understand.
11-10-2003, 02:52
[Communication from Ambassador Kerlius I]

We will give you aid in bringing Sri Lanka under new management, in exchange we request that a small portion of the island and people be given over the Synchronized management and so that they may hear The Word.

[Communication Ends]


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Ambassador Kerlius I
There Is Only One, And That One Is Daemon
The Dominion of Synchronized
We object that. Not a single land of Sri Lanka should be given to anyone. Sri Lankans should own it.

NOTe: I have no intention of gaining it. Just want to free the island and prevent anybody from claiming it.
United Indiastan
11-10-2003, 09:48
This situation is already under control. It was the dogs of the Resi Corperation that brougth this misfortune to the people of Sri Lanka, not Indiastan mismanagement. The money that has been raised from the nationalization and sale of Resi Corp assests in Indiastan has gone to funding the rebuilding of the province, and Rocketdyne, the company who's reactor was sabatoged, has pledged millions in support for the embattered people at this time. We stress that war is not going coming anywhere enar the peacefull isle, and that while international support and humanitarian aid is appreactiated, military force is not required. We also do not suggest that anyone attempt any thing foolish, like "liberating" Sir Lanka from nominal Indiastan control. The populace has been part of the Union for over 200 years, and that is how it is going to stay. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry
11-10-2003, 14:34
Gradenk would continue to monitor the situation. Gradenk would like to set up an embassy in Sri Lanka to ensure that the people of the isles are not ill treated and to provide a safe haven for Refugees if any Sri Lankans would like to migrate to Gradenk.
Sydia
11-10-2003, 14:39
The nation of Sydia would like to offer a helping hand to the people of Sri Lanka and as such aid will be imediately available sould it be requesed.
Knootoss
11-10-2003, 15:53
Speaker: The Chair recognises The Commonwealth of Chimaea.

Ambassador Lee: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Fellow nations,

As you will no doubt know now, the island-nation of Sri Lanka was flattened by an explosion caused by a reactor belonging to United Indiastan. Events then escalated and the Resi Corp, as well as Iesus Christi, have become involved in what looks like another Amerigo. Only this time, the issues are less than clear.

Chimaea is not going to pass judgement on the political issues caused by these events. However, we do have concerns for the safety and wellbeing of the people of Sri Lanka, who might well be caught up in this war. United Indiastan has let down the people they govern.

Therefore, the Empire of Baron will to committ forces for the protection of Sri Lanka in any military exchange. We believe that United Indiastan has displayed its failure to serve and protect the nations in its control.

Chimaea, Clock Hill and Street Island will intervene in Sri Lanka under the banner of the Baron Intervention Taskforce. The support of Snuffopolis and New Rastonia have been gained but are still being negotiated.

We look forward to the cooperation of all those involved.

Thank you for your time.

The halls of the United Nations

A female bureaucrat took the stand, she was an elderly woman whose blonde hair was slowly beginning to fade into grey. Many in that building knew her as the new Knootian ambassador to the UN.

“The Chair recognises The Democratic Republic of Knootoss”

“Thank you”, the woman said with a courtesy nod.

“Our Chimaean allies address an important point and I believe it wise to support them.

During our period as members of the United Nations Human Rights Commission we have been keeping a wary eye on the situation in Sri Lanka. The deaths after the reactor accident are mourned in all the world. The following actions taken by the Indiastani government unfortunately lead us to conclude that United Indiastan has failed to protect people of Sri Lanka.

In the interest of being short, I will not repeat what has already been said. We support a move by Chimae and The Empire of Baron as a whole to intervene in Sri Lanka and provide it protection for as long as is needed to regain independence. I call upon the world community to support it as well, as all RL nations have a right to be free.

If any monetary or moral assistance is required of Knootoss we will provide it. If we are to be part of a UN peacekeeping mission to Sri Lanka we will fulfil our duties. The world can count on us."
United Indiastan
12-10-2003, 05:59
After hearing the overly bold statement made by Knootoss in the United Nations, the Foreign Ministry released this statement to the foreign governments involved, namely Chimaea and Knootoss."

"Sri Lanka has not been independant for over two hundred years. There is not a single inhabitant alive who has known anything other then being a member of the Union. We have done nothing wrong. It was not a government reactor that caused the explosions near Columbo, rather it was a private industrial one. The island is not badly damaged, though the city is. The process of rebuilding is already well under way. Also, it was not a nuclear plant that was destroyed, rather an experimental Matter/Anti-Matter reactor. There are no known harmfull side effects of the blast. We are very concerned that so many are making such a fuss out of this incident, rather then taking issue with the many other atrocities that are hapening in the world. Was a military force sent to Russia after Chernoybl? No. Plainly put, there is no need for your illogical aggression. Are we clear?"
Knootoss
13-10-2003, 15:20
OOC: *waits for Chimea to respond first*
Indiastan, Chimea is a longstanding ally of ours, they and the Empire of Baron helped us out in our first international dispute ans they still have some troops in our country to train ours. They asked for our support in the UN and so we do.

Perhaps you could consider giving up on Sri-Lanka and play a non-RL country instead. It's a bit unfair for the Sri-Lankans don't you think?
Syskeyia
13-10-2003, 20:21
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A Syskeyian SR-71 Blackbird flies over Sri Lanka, taking pictures of the island and surveying the damage.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
United Indiastan
14-10-2003, 09:04
OOC: *waits for Chimea to respond first*
Indiastan, Chimea is a longstanding ally of ours, they and the Empire of Baron helped us out in our first international dispute ans they still have some troops in our country to train ours. They asked for our support in the UN and so we do.

Perhaps you could consider giving up on Sri-Lanka and play a non-RL country instead. It's a bit unfair for the Sri-Lankans don't you think?

(ooc: ugh, what does it matter if, for the sake of having something real to base my RP on, RL nations are involved? I'm Canadian. Do i care if someone RP's owning Canada? No, not if they've put some thought into their RP. And i suspect most players feel like i do. Anyway, if you've got any more questions on my backstory, feel free to ask. But i aint letting my territory go without a fight i tells ya!)
Der Angst
14-10-2003, 10:23
From: Der Angst, Mr. Morden, The associates
To: All nations involved

"We are concerned about how the situation evolves. Sri Lanka is part of United Indiastan, there is no doubt about it. No matter what other nations claim, any attempt from outside to occupy Sri Lanka must be seen as an illegal attempt of expanding the invaders sphere of influence.

We have considerable relationships to nations on both sides.

We help Indiastani male telepaths with their inability to stay sane.

We consider Indiastan an important ally regarding our interests in the Sol system.

On the other hand, we were involved in the 'Shadow war', which liberated Knootoss from the dominion threat, the war that was the final blow on the dominion.

Knootoss, as well as Syskeyia, are longstanding SATO- allies of ours.

We do not want to see war between our allies, as it would force us to make a painful decision.

However, in the interest of international peace, we are willing to negotiate between the different parties involved, and would like to invite all nations involved to Mönchengladbach, to find a way to stop this unneccessary conflict."

~ Mr. Morden
Chimaea
14-10-2003, 12:19
United Indiastan has been remiss in allowing such a reactor into Sri Lanka in the first place. Such a small island with such a large population; this is no wasteland or tundra. A heavily populated small nation which was put into danger by allowing the building of a dangerous anti-matter reactor... And United Indiastan says that they are not responsible?

As we speak, forces from Clock Hill and Chimaea have taken up positions to give aid or to intervene if necessary. Indiastan is perfectly right--Sri Lanka has not known independance for over two hundred years; always there has been some sort of foriegn force occupying the island nation. We aim to intervene and liberate the people from the grip of UI's iron grasp. This is the first of many such interventions, fellow nations, where self-rule will be allowed back into the world while the harsh tyranny of international control will be fought.

We will continue with the intervention, though we will cease any attacks until the situation is completely made clear as to what is happening in Sri Lanka at the moment.
Chimaea
17-10-2003, 00:32
*Bump*

Your move :)
17-10-2003, 01:37
Empire of Gradenk has begun maneouvering her forces into Sri Lanka upon Request by the Government of Chimae. We too wish to see that the people of Sri Lanka be freed from their woes and oppressors.


As we speak, Three Gradenk fleets have been despatched to the region.

Fleet details would be announced later.
United Indiastan
17-10-2003, 22:28
(ooc: this be the made-up history of Indiastan. Keep in mind its in the mid 2200's there. Thanks)

"Perhaps you need to be versed on Indiastan history? You obviusly seem to think we conqued Sri Lanka. We did not.

In 1982, tensions between India and Pakistan reached a bioling point, and when the Indian government of the time learned that the Pakistaniis were researching nuclear weaponry, they decided that the time for any posssible military action was quickly fading. The Reunification movement was created as a result to gain popular support for the invasion of Pakistan, and it ended up being successfull. By 1985, India had overrun the entire nation. At this time, the Indiastan Union was formed, and with the intent to create a new superpower, neighbouring nations were invited to join. Only three nations did, but when the Union became oficial in 1989, it consisted onf the provinces of India, Pakistan, Kashmir, Nepal, Bangledesh, and Sri Lanka. There was no violent takeover. Sri Lanka joined the Union willingly.

And as for allowing the construction of a test reactor on a densely populated island, we should ask you if you follow your own suggestions. Besides, does your own UN not prohibit interference in the internal situations of nations? You are breaking your own charter. Tsk tsk. Now go home."

-Ambassador Vir Cotto, message to the Chimaea envoy.
17-10-2003, 23:46
AFP - Holy City: Officials in the West Token Ministry of Foreign and Secular affairs have released warnings advising Tokenites to evacuate Sri Lanka ASAP.
Chimaea
18-10-2003, 10:55
Chimaea's reactors are mostly contained in barren places, such as the Cornel Desert, which contains two reactors that power New Sydney. Even then we are avoiding relying too much on nuclear power and have made great improvements of existing solar power technology and currently plan to have one sixth of Chimaean homes powered by a mix of solar and nuclear power within three years.

However, that's neither here nor there.

Sri Lanka may have or have not joined this union willingly, but the fact still stands: United Indiastan has not met its duty to protect and serve those nations within its control. Now hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of Sri Lankans have been killed or injured due to this ineptitude.

We believe that Sri Lankans want Sri Lanka to be independant; a state that finally dissolves the long standing tensions between different Sri Lankan ethnicities, a state that will be prosperous in its own right, that will retain all the noble heritage of its past. After all, who wouldn't wish for independance when they are put at risk by those who have a moral duty to protect them?

As for the UN charter; you appear to be confused by Chimaean history. We are part of the United Nations but we are not acting in or under its jurisdiction, following the Iesus Christi-Ienotheisa hostility of years past. Our domestic legislation is clear on this point; ever since that incident Chimaea has followed a certain policy of interventionism and internationalism, with or without UN approval.
United Indiastan
19-10-2003, 19:19
"So be it. Fortune does not smile on the unreasonable, as you have proven to be. Let it be known, however, that our retaliation will be swift, and merciless. You could triumph and achieve all you goal here in Indiastan, but you will have nothing to return home to. You have been warned."

-Ambassador Vir Cotto, last statement to Chimaea
Chimaea
20-10-2003, 02:08
What is this? You demand negotaitions and we cease military operations and now you want war?

How easily you have fallen into that pit... We demand that you see this through; after all, it is by your own demand that we are talking!
Syskeyia
20-10-2003, 06:18
(ooc: this be the made-up history of Indiastan. Keep in mind its in the mid 2200's there. Thanks)

OOC: Um, does this mean that the war(if it happens) has to be future tech? Becuase I RP modern tech, and I don't want my troops (if I get involved in this war) tobe slughtered by laser tanks and whatnot.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
United Indiastan
20-10-2003, 08:21
(ooc: this be the made-up history of Indiastan. Keep in mind its in the mid 2200's there. Thanks)

OOC: Um, does this mean that the war(if it happens) has to be future tech? Becuase I RP modern tech, and I don't want my troops (if I get involved in this war) tobe slughtered by laser tanks and whatnot.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Well, my tech is future, but other the then space program, its relativly mundane. My troops still walk, my tanks still have treads, and force fields are the things of television. mind you, we do use particle-pulse guns, but they arn't that bad ;)

And as for the space craft.. they'll do what they always do. Launch fighters right down onto your heads. But remember, you can still shoot them down :)
Der Angst
20-10-2003, 09:23
ooc: AMF dead, Resi irrelevant... oh my, NOW it gets interesting...

ic:

"We do not believe that this war should happen.

War is always the worst solution, and it shouldn´t be used as an excuse for territorial expansion.

Again, we invite alöl involved nations to negotiate, rather than go to war for, well nothing."

~ Mr. Morden

---

Mr. Morden, as well as the associates, were more than nervous.

This couldn`t be good. Indiastan was counted as relatively close, considering the teep programs and such, on the other hand, Syskeyia was a part of SATO...

In the case of a war, neutrality was neccessary, but one couldn`t possibly like the thought of one of the participants being eradicated.

Peace was the only option, so to speak...
Der Angst
20-10-2003, 09:48
A few hours later (irc- conducted timewarp):

"Wait a second. I have another idea..."
"Eh? And that is, my dear Aramaki?"
"Wait a second... so, listen..."

---

A few more hours later:

"Der Angst formally declares it`s support for United Indiastan. Foreign powers needlessly use the excuse of an unfortunate accident to question the territorial integrity of United Indiastan. This is not how civilised nations act.

It´s how rogue nations act.

Any attack on Indiastan based on the 'accusions' and 'demands' of Chimaea and it`s allies will be considered a reason to sewer all diplomatical ties with said nations, as well as a reason to deploy additional forces in United Indiastan to help it conserving it`s territorial and political integrity."

~ Mr. Morden and associates

WBO Co- directorate
SATO RDF Sisgardia
Street Island
20-10-2003, 09:51
Street Island has come to an executive decision. We will support the Commonwealth in its noble endeavour to bring liberation to the suffering peoples of Sri Lanka.

We will be mobilising the Street Island National Guard [OOC: we're a protectorate state of Chimaea so our armed forces are called the 'National Guard'] and forces will be flown to the nearest friendly nation to Sri Lanka and onto BIT carriers in preparation of the eventuality of total war.

We warn United Indiastan not to attack the Empire of Baron and we have alerted the rest of Baron to this possibility.

Meanwhile, we shall be sending Foriegn Minister Al Bridges to aid in any peaceful resolution to this crisis.

~Prime Minister Jane Fraser
United Indiastan
20-10-2003, 09:54
What is this? You demand negotaitions and we cease military operations and now you want war?

How easily you have fallen into that pit... We demand that you see this through; after all, it is by your own demand that we are talking!

"Then what do you want that we can give? We have made it clear that your demands are entirely unreasonable. Have you nothing else to say? It is you have not given us anything else to work with here. Cessisation of Sri Lanka is not an option. That should have been obvious. Neither are foreign troops on our soil. Now, within those guidelines, do you have anything constructive to add?"
Chimaea
20-10-2003, 10:17
Immediate Chimaean goals in Sri Lanka are:

1. Democratic self-governance for the Sri Lankan people

2. The extraction of United Indiastan military and political forces to preserve this independence

3. The handover of security control to native Sri Lankan/UN forces, including police and defensive military

4. The making of a non-aggression pact between Sri Lanka and United Indiastan, to be enforced by the UN

For too long Asia, specially south-east/west Asia, has been under the heel of one foreign power after the other. Instead of aiding these nations through rebuilding of infrastructure and internationally backed peace-making forces, these foreign powers have just imposed their own cultural, political, judicial and legislative ideals on the nations in question—with results such as the one in Sri Lanka.

We are willing to discuss on each point.

edit: I'll have to post more tomorrow, I feel pretty sick right now x_x
Der Angst
20-10-2003, 10:30
And again, a few hours later, after a request to the Indiastani government was answered positively, a small transporter landed in New Delhi, carrying a dozen (relatively) high ranked officers from White Hawk and Soldats.

They objective was simple: Coordination with the Indiastani forces (and politicians, for that matter), to prepare for a possible mass- move of DA forces to Indiastan.
United Indiastan
20-10-2003, 10:40
"You would like discussion? Alright. Lets go over your goals, and we will give you our responces.


1. Democratic self-governance for the Sri Lankan people.

Sri Lanka, like all UI provinces, is as democratic and self-governed as it wishes to be. The only tasks not handled by the locally-elected Provincal government are things Foreign and Military. Sri Lanka also happens to be very industralized, and is considered to be arguably the best place to live in the Union. The people are happy. They would, however, lose substantial amounts of economic freedom by removing our government. You wouldn't want to starve them, wouldn't you?


2. The extraction of United Indiastan military and political forces to preserve this independence.

Well, this just isn't going to happen. Were we to leave, then everything that belongs to the State would, naturally, have go too. You'd leave the province with little infrastructure, no power, water, food, nothing. All these things are run and owned by the Provincal government, which is an extention of the State. See the dilemma?


3. The handover of security control to native Sri Lankan/UN forces, including police and defensive military.

As we have already stated, the Provincal government is already run by native Sri Lankans. Also, we do not recognize the authority of the UN, nor do we believe that they would intervene even if asked. This leaves the only force capable of "protecting" Sri Lanka your force. Sounds like a thinly veiled terriotry grab to us.


4. The making of a non-aggression pact between Sri Lanka and United Indiastan, to be enforced by the UN.

Again, we do not recognize the authority of the United Nations. And if your forces did occupy Sir Lanka, we would be forced to quarintine the island, and invoke trade sanctions. No one needs that.


So, has the totaly unreasonability of your demands sunk in yet, or do we need to repeat it?"
Syskeyia
20-10-2003, 19:13
^bump^

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Syskeyia
20-10-2003, 19:17
"So be it. Fortune does not smile on the unreasonable, as you have proven to be. Let it be known, however, that our retaliation will be swift, and merciless. You could triumph and achieve all you goal here in Indiastan, but you will have nothing to return home to. You have been warned."

-Ambassador Vir Cotto, last statement to Chimaea

If you attack Chimaean territory, we shall have not choice but to give our army an all expense-paid trip to New Dehli, if you know what I mean.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Sunset
20-10-2003, 19:37
Official Statement on the Situation

In this instance, I must disagree with my friends in SATO, Knootoss and Syskeyia respectively.

United Indiastan's position on Sri Lanka is quite reasonable. The people willingly joined, and I would assume if they wished they could willingly leave. Have there been protests in the streets shouting 'India go home'? I see no such reports.

The incident was merely an industrial accident. Yes, people were killed. But that is the risk we all take when we move to an industrialized city. Does that mean the government of United Indiastan is responsible for the explosion? No. Despite every precaution accidents do happen. Mechanical failure and human error are both unpredictable, and while this is a tragedy for those involved there is no need to inflict a greater event on the people of Sri Lanka.

I do however have a proposal. I feel this is reasonable for both parties, and I would encourage everyone to think it over and discuss it before war breaks out.

Those parties who are concerned with the welfare of Sri Lankan's have every right to be. We would suggest they send, and be allowed to send, humanitarian aid to the city. This aid would be clearly marked with the country of origin, and distributed by their workers. Then they could see for themselves if there are protests and mobs demanding independance.

I would also suggest that if the aid is allowed in this form, that the aid workers be allowed to remove any Sri Lankan who requests it willingly.

Once you have seen for yourselves the situation on the ground then make your decision. Do not assume that a people who willingly joined a union do not wish to stay in it even now.

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Syskeyia
20-10-2003, 22:27
About the soverignty of Sri Lanka, how about a referendum?

Neutrals will observe, and in the end the people of Sri Lanka will decide whether they stay as part of United Indiastan or become independant?

How does that sound?

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Chimaea
21-10-2003, 00:44
1. A government without access to any real power as to the governing of every aspect of its country is a puppet government; a caretaker government which serves only to look after what the central UI leadership cannot. However much there are free and open elections in Sri Lanka, the Sri Lankans are voting for not a change of power but simply a change of face. United Indiastan shall, in this situation, always keep the main control of all of its provinces. Democracy is power to the people, not just electing yet another caretaker.

2. Naturally there would be help ready to take over; if you wish this help would come from the Baron Intervention Taskforce without any military personnel entering Sri Lankan territory; in fact, if a suitable third party can be found to represent the United Nations, this third party could provide the suitable support and logistics needed. The BIT would willing fund the operation using its monetary resources.

3. As said, the BIT would gladly step aside for a third party to undertake the rebuilding of Sri Lanka, and oversee the elections. In fact, if you do not trust the UN perhaps another organisation can do this... SATO maybe? There are no Baron nations in SATO.

4. So our forces need not occupy Sri Lanka at all. As mentioned above. A third party nation or organisation could fulfill this role, and BIT is fully prepared to fund this operation.


Sunset: I doubt that there can be any free and clear election in Sri Lanka conducted by UI to the purposes of finding out of Sri Lanka wished to be independant, and I doubt that United Indiastan would allow such a move.

How can there be protests in the streets when United Indiastan is very much in control of the sitation?

The incident that happened in Sri Lanka was a result of apparent terrorism. The incident levelled half the island; this isn't merely a mechanical failure. The presense of such a reactor in a heavily populated island is worrying enough; but such a union of nations such as UI is bound to start making enemies and attracting terrorism. Common sense dictates that such highly volatile 'targets' should not be created in population centres; in this case most of Sri Lanka!

Chimaea maintains that Sri Lanka is not gaining anything but danger from being part of such a union.

We will also consider all aspects of the referendum suggestion put forth by Syskeyia.
United Indiastan
21-10-2003, 09:17
"And what are they gaining by leaving the Union then? Increased danger of hostile attacks against their soverignty due to less resources that can be spent on the police and military, less influence on international trade markets due to having less total economic clout, very little access to cheap, domestic food and water sources, and a host of other things that our government provides. Terrorism can strike anywhere, do you really think that Sri Lanka being independant would lessen the risks?

As we have stated before, we are more then willing to accept aid through respected, neutral, international agencies like the Red Cross and similar organizations. We are also willing to permit neutral foreign observes to go into the province and ask the citizenry what they feel about the government and its policies. We are entirely confident that beyond the normal level of anti-governmentism that is inherit in all free people, there will be little opposition. We would nominate Sunset for such a task, as it was their suggestion."
Sunset
21-10-2003, 20:05
We would be willing to do this. Our conditions are simple - the citizenry are going to be randomly selected, removed with their own permission to a secured location, and given a questionaire to fill out. When the study is done, we will release the results as well as the questions asked to both parties.

Is this acceptable?
Knootoss
22-10-2003, 00:17
Going along with the Syskeyian suggestion we should be clear of what the consequences of the investigation would be. If there is apparently serious opposition, and a desire for independence we would strongly urge that a binding national referendum be held.

We would also be willing to support the investigation and a referendum with neutral observers and democratic support. Considering that, with all due respect, political Freedoms are rare in Indiastan we feel that a developed democracy should oversee any such referendum. We offer ourselves freely.

~Knootian ambassador to the UN
Chimaea
22-10-2003, 00:52
Sunset's position, from their second last statement, might be biased... Perhaps we should call upon a completely third party to hold this investigation... A nation like Lavenrunz, which holds a certain degree of respect in the world.

As a Chimaean ally knootoss might disqualify too... In the interests of fairness.

Though yes, what steps to take if the referendum goes one way? Chimaea pledges that if a free referendum is carried out and the results are in UI's favour we will cease all military operations. But we also reserve the right to make certain that the referendum is free from coercion and so forth.

If Sri Lanka leaves the Union its security will be made certain, if not by the Baron Intervention Taskforce, then a third party, perhaps with BIT funding. We will make sure that all infrastructure is rebuilt with the minimum amount of fuss and that Sri Lanka will be free, with assistance from Baron if necessary, to develop along its own economic and cultural course.

We still maintain that being part of the Union exposes Sri Lanka to a more definite chance of terrorism.

If there are no third parties forthcoming we accept Sunset and Knootoss as an equal balance.

We officially put forth Lavenrunz as the third party.
United Indiastan
22-10-2003, 02:48
"No, Sunset will do fine as the moderator in this situation. We cannot see how they are biased either way, and that makes us content. If the referendum result do show that Sri Lankans desire independance, the BIT can either repay UI the cost of the infrastructre it would otherwise be forced to remove, or it can supply replacements. Is that agreeable?"

(ooc note: civil rights are very good in Indiastan. While political freedoms are not, most people really don't care, so long as they are not being visably oppressed. So, when deciding how you're going to RP people's reaction, keep that in mind ;) )
Sunset
22-10-2003, 02:59
In the interest of openness, I will lay out our relations for those interested parties.

United Indiastan: None
Our relations extend to a knowledge of Indiastan colonies on Mars.
(Sign the MFTA!)

Knootoss: Friendly
The SDF and Knootoss space forces have worked together, and Sunset
supported Knootoss during the Shadow War.

Chimaea: None
None

Syskeyia: Friendly
The Republic has established cordial relations with Syskeyia during
their creation of a Mars colony.
(Sign the MFTA as well!)
Der Angst
22-10-2003, 10:49
"As Indiastan obviously agrees with Sunsets idea, why will of course support them."

~ Mr. Morden
Chimaea
23-10-2003, 01:56
After due consideration, we will accept Sunset as a neutral third-party.
Knootoss
23-10-2003, 13:12
After due consideration, we will accept Sunset as a neutral third-party.
OOC: *seconds that*
So... how do you intend to start procedures?
Sunset
23-10-2003, 19:19
Since we have United Indiastan's permission to proceed, we have already begun and completed the survey portion of the task.***

The decision was made that in order to get a truely representative sampling we needed to conduct the same survey in all sections of United Indiastan. The survey was conducted by 'three' group, though all were our people ultimately. In each region we chose three cities at random* for the teams.

The first group claimed to be representatives of the United Indiastan government doing a random survey of peoples opinions for a regional governor.

The second claimed to be representatives of Chimaea again doing a survey on the peoples opinion.

The third claimed to be from the UN, again with the same goal.

All questions were asked by a single person in a public area with no government presence. All the groups were then averaged together to give better statistical information.

This was done to get a more accurate sampling of the population, instead of just people strongly aligned with either side. In each survey were the following questions, along with several 'filler' questions like age, how many people in the family, number of televisions, etc.**

All questions were answered with Strongly Agree, Agree, Nuetral, Disagree, and Strongly Disagree. The providences were Sri Lanka, Central India, Northern India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

Do you feel the government of this province does a good job?
SL - CI - NI - PA - BA
23% - 13% - 10% - 15% - 08%
43% - 34% - 19% - 22% - 16%
25% - 20% - 20% - 25% - 40%
18% - 13% - 19% - 20% - 22%
01% - 20% - 32% - 18% - 14%

Do you feel the central government of United Indiastan does a good job?
SL - CI - NI - PA - BA
19% - 17% - 19% - 12% - 07%
39% - 36% - 24% - 18% - 12%
29% - 24% - 28% - 33% - 41%
20% - 12% - 17% - 20% - 23%
05% - 11% - 12% - 17% - 17%

Would you like to see changes in the government of this providence?
SL - CI - NI - PA - BA
08% - 27% - 13% - 15% - 12%
19% - 23% - 17% - 23% - 33%
18% - 25% - 28% - 39% - 38%
34% - 13% - 25% - 12% - 11%
11% - 12% - 17% - 11% - 06%

Would you like to see changes in the central government of United Indiastan?
SL - CI - NI - PA - BA
10% - 07% - 04% - 31% - 41%
22% - 09% - 28% - 15% - 22%
18% - 30% - 22% - 33% - 18%
27% - 21% - 24% - 12% - 11%
23% - 33% - 20% - 10% - 08%

If a referendum was held to separate this province from United Indiastan would you:
SL - CI - NI - PA - BA
13% - 11% - 13% - 18% - 22%
18% - 12% - 17% - 25% - 33%
20% - 27% - 28% - 34% - 38%
24% - 19% - 25% - 12% - 11%
25% - 31% - 17% - 11% - 06%

*Randomly selected by computer from existing maps. Cities of 10,000-10,000,000

**These answers are avaliable, but as they deal with fact and not opinion they were discarded in the results.

***(OOC: The results are based off an OOC description of the country by UI, as well as the NS information for UI. Some information was created based on my knowledge of the region and it's past political history.
United Indiastan
23-10-2003, 20:34
"We are very pleased with the results of this survey, and from this we can conclusivly tell Chimaea that they are sticking their noses into areas where they are not wanted."

-Ambassador Cotto
Chimaea
26-10-2003, 02:34
Fair enough, but I feel strangely unfulfilled o.O

Oh yeah I was away for three days, btw, sorry for the late reply.
United Indiastan
27-10-2003, 11:20
Fair enough, but I feel strangely unfulfilled o.O

Oh yeah I was away for three days, btw, sorry for the late reply.

meh. i took the weekend of the 24th off myself :p