NationStates Jolt Archive

CNS:

The Vortex Corporation has announced a radical changed in the council system. This morning, officials informed the press that due to the huge information flows that the High Council has to process every day, it is no longer efficient to be ruled by mere humans. Therefore, the Councilmembers have agreed to a unique procedure. This week, under top-secret conditions, the members of the High Council were implanted with the latest generation of GenPads and Neural Uplinks. Then, they were linked to the body of a young woman, whos identity remains a secret. All we currently know is that she is from Kiith S'Jet, a kiith with a rich and extensive history in science.

From now on, the Corporations' leaders are thus united in "The Council", the body of a young woman connected to the twelve brightest minds in the Corporation, able to live much longer than normal humans due to the implants they have received.

The Council building in Uthar has been thoroughly reengineered to facilitate this new "Council". A part of the building is now equipped with support systems of various nature, and the "Council" will have an entire floor as it's home. The council will always be connected to the twelve councelors, and visitors shall not be admitted anymore, save for exceptions made for special guests.
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In other news, the Corporation has also announced that the lower councils will be unified in a governing body, the Daiamid Council.

From now on, the lower councils will play a mere advisory role. The daily control and management of the Corporation will be done by the Diamid. The High Council will be consulted in affairs that concern important events that have an effect on the entire Corporation.

The new structure of the Corporation is therefore now (from high to low):

The High Council
The Daiamid Council
The Lower Councils (advisory role)
The Conglomerates

Surprisingly, former High Council member Simon Delendre has not been integrated into the 'Council'. Another CEO has been integrated in his place, and Lord Delendre has received the title of Daiamid Chairman

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CNS:

The Corporation hereby announces that the Kiith system will be implemented for all its employees and citizens. This means that everyone working and living under the Corporate banner has to chose a Kiith to join. Most employees already have strong relations with various Kiithid, or are even a member of one, so we expect a swift transition. The largest Kiithid (there are dozens of small Kiithid) that exist in the Corporation are:

Manaan
Gaalsien
Riif
LiirHra
Soban
Nabaal
S'Jet
Somtaaw
Paktu
Draconis
Kendarat (Taraskovyan)

Also, each Kiith has been granted one major city to found the council of its Kiith-Sa, the leading family of each Kiith. Therefore, the 10 largest cities of the Corporation, save for Uthar and Vishna, have been renamed.
Each Kiith shall soon become dominant in one area of Corporate activity, since most Kiithid specialize in a single or a few areas. For instance, the S'Jet are very strong in science, while the Sobani specialize in war related activity.

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CNS:

In other news, the Corporation today announced an increase in military spendings. With the expected upcoming CENNA membership, Corporate analists feel it would be wise to produce more Chimera vessels, as well as Hoverdynes, not only for private use but also for export purposes. Expected increase of production ranges between 20-30%.

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Summary:

-High Council is now integrated into a single sentient being

-Lower Councils now have a merely advisory role

-Daiamid Council will be the ruling body of the Corporation, with the High Council as supreme institution

-Every member of the Corporation is now a Kiith member. Each Kiith has received one city, which is renamed after that Kiith

-Military spending is to increase with at least 20%, partly for export purposes.

OOC: Tooooooo many Homeworld 2 references :shock:

OOC: Tooooooo many Homeworld 2 references :shock:

*sigh*

What the hell do you think my nation is based on?

OOC: Tooooooo many Homeworld 2 references :shock:

*sigh*

What the hell do you think my nation is based on?

We both know what game your nation is based on ;)

That was part of the too many :wink:

That was part of the too many :wink:

*Slap*

*ducks*

do you go on habbo hotel perchance? that's the only place I can think of where *s are used for emoting.

OOC: VxCo, PLEASE DON'T USE OUR ACRONYM.

OOC: VxCo, PLEASE DON'T USE OUR ACRONYM.

That would be my acronym, with all due respect. You have hardly posted anything, and most people will identify and associate the TVC acronym with my nation. Sorry.

OOC: VxCo, PLEASE DON'T USE OUR ACRONYM.

That would be my acronym, with all due respect. You have hardly posted anything, and most people will identify and associate the TVC acronym with my nation. Sorry.

I concur with TVC! :roll:

Okay, seriously - V Corp, look at your post count and look at Vortex'es.
And his posts aren't at all spam, they are serious ones.

Even if V is older, Vortex has been much more active on the forums and is renowned by many.

Sorry, but you've lost your chance.

TVC has become the official acronym of The Vortex Corporations long ago :D

OOC: VxCo, PLEASE DON'T USE OUR ACRONYM.

That would be my acronym, with all due respect. You have hardly posted anything, and most people will identify and associate the TVC acronym with my nation. Sorry.

OOC: OK, fair enough, i haven't done much in a few months, and i am friendly towards you. V.C is my acro, tho, or I can't use VCAF.

btw: I like the council - same idea as the ANGL program, if any of you can remember that from a few months back.

Talking of which, does anyone have any new tech. or vehicles out without a V.C review?

OOC: VxCo, PLEASE DON'T USE OUR ACRONYM.

That would be my acronym, with all due respect. You have hardly posted anything, and most people will identify and associate the TVC acronym with my nation. Sorry.

I concur with TVC! :roll:

Okay, seriously - V Corp, look at your post count and look at Vortex'es.
And his posts aren't at all spam, they are serious ones.

Even if V is older, Vortex has been much more active on the forums and is renowned by many.

Sorry, but you've lost your chance.

TVC has become the official acronym of The Vortex Corporations long ago :D

Back in your box, Tskv.

CNS:

Today, a small streak of panic went through the Corporate headquarters at Uthar, when the board of the so-called V Corporation claimed the TVC and VC acronyms to be theirs.

The issue was immediately brought before the Daiamid Council, and even the High Council was called into the debate.

After two hours of debate, the following message was released:

"The Vortex Corporation hereby copyrights, trademarks and patents both the "TVC" and the "VC" acronym. All appropriate documents have been created and signed by the Daiamid Council, the High Council, and the Lower Council, as well as the Kiith-Sa's of the ten Kiithid."

Back in your box, Tskv.

Nope, thats GDT :P
But you were close enough...
Anyway, back on topic, shall we W.C?
Oups! Pardon! :roll:

Thinks about ECTOS'ing W.C...

Does this being eat food ?

Does this being eat food ?

:?

CNS:

Today, a small streak of panic went through the Corporate headquarters at Uthar, when the board of the so-called V Corporation claimed the TVC and VC acronyms to be theirs.

The issue was immediately brought before the Daiamid Council, and even the High Council was called into the debate.

After two hours of debate, the following message was released:

"The Vortex Corporation hereby copyrights, trademarks and patents both the "TVC" and the "VC" acronym. All appropriate documents have been created and signed by the Daiamid Council, the High Council, and the Lower Council, as well as the Kiith-Sa's of the ten Kiithid."

OOC: hmm...interesting.

for your information it is V.Cor. or just V.C, NOT VC.

I don't want to get into an argument about this, therefore i'm not gonna propose buying the copyrights off you.

Here, have some money. Go buy yourself something.

[20k credits wired]

Does this being eat food ?

Of course. Just like any other, she needs food and water to survive. As you will notice in the pictures, her mouth is still uncovered. She is fully able to move herself across the floor that is reserved for her.

OOC: hmm...interesting.
for your information it is V.Cor. or just V.C, NOT VC.
I don't want to get into an argument about this, therefore i'm not gonna propose buying the copyrights off you.

Here, have some money. Go buy yourself something.

[20k credits wired]

The money has immediately been rewired to the account of origin. The copyrights are not for sale, though we have no problem with you using the name V.Cor.

OOC: hmm...interesting.
for your information it is V.Cor. or just V.C, NOT VC.
I don't want to get into an argument about this, therefore i'm not gonna propose buying the copyrights off you.

Here, have some money. Go buy yourself something.

[20k credits wired]

The money has immediately been rewired to the account of origin. The copyrights are not for sale, though we have no problem with you using the name V.Cor.

Very well. As far as V.C.A.F. is concerned, can that be shared, considering that The V Corporation is a primarily Aerial nation?

Also, if you do not wish for a donation to your council (purely out of respect for an equal), then what DO you want? At the very most, we could give you some ANGL info; at the least, some spare cables for the council.

Signed,

No.26

:?

Basicly, we want nothing from you at the moment. To be honest, we do not know you, so we don't trust you. We have never encountered each other, neither in business, not in other events. It will take time and careful evaluation before we trust you, and until that time we will abstain from relations with your Corporation. Also, one more insult from you and we will be forced to use more violent means to persuade you into leaving us alone.

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The Vortex Corporation Daiamid Council
Imperial Alliance
Corporate Coalition
Templar Alliance
SATO
WTE
SFN

”We bring new worlds to Life”

Basicly, we want nothing from you at the moment. To be honest, we do not know you, so we don't trust you. We have never encountered each other, neither in business, not in other events. It will take time and careful evaluation before we trust you, and until that time we will abstain from relations with your Corporation. Also, one more insult from you and we will be forced to use more violent means to persuade you into leaving us alone.

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The Vortex Corporation Daiamid Council
Imperial Alliance
Corporate Coalition
Templar Alliance
SATO
WTE
SFN

”We bring new worlds to Life”

Very well then. What do we need to do to gain your trust?

Did you not listen? We abstain from increasing relations with you. Insulting us, even in joking manner, is not something we take likely, especially not from a Corporation that we do not yet consider a friend or ally.

Did you not listen? We abstain from increasing relations with you. Insulting us, even in joking manner, is not something we take likely, especially not from a Corporation that we do not yet consider a friend or ally.

OOC: IT WASN'T A JOKE. OR AN INSULT. WE WISH TO FURTHER DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ALL CORPORATIONS.

OOC: Sorry, but offering spare cables to the Council is something I consider an insult. Now please, understand we need to see a lot more roleplay from you before we decide on anything.

OOC: Behold as I try and veer the topic back to it’s original point…

IC:

“While I can certainly see the benefits of a single highly efficient voice leading the Vortex Corporation, I can’t help but think that there must be some concerns over the mentality of this ‘sentient’ being, as you so eloquently put it.

What I’m thinking is that if you were to hook a human (or any other race for that matter) into a computer to allow it to work out millions of calculations a second, they may eventually loose their compassion for their own kind.

Already we see many companies calling their personnel divisions ‘Human Resources’ as though we were tradable stock, imagine how easy it would be for someone no longer fully human to simply not worry about human losses, but instead weighing human lives against profit.

Then again, I suppose humans can be just as bad, but this kind of leadership feels cold to me… I don’t think it would do our soldiers moral well knowing a computer is commanding them.

Thanks,

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia.”

We appreciate your concern over our future, Lord DeGritz. However, we have been integrating pilots as living cores into capital ships for decades now, and we know for a fact that our methods do not, in any way, damage the "humanity" of the subject. Indeed, we are aware that many crucial decisions must be made in regard to human resources, motivation and quality of working life. Only a human with full emotions can make such decisions, and is able to consider the impact of certain decisions on our employees. Therefore, we do everything we can to preserve the "human side" of the Council.

B 8) mp

Another bump :roll:

CNS:

In response to the Corporate employees uniting in the various Kiithid, the Taraskovyan minority residing under the Corporate banner has requested permission to found their own Kiith, in order to prevent them from being scattered over hierarchies that they are not familiar with. The Daiamid Council gave unanimous permission for this, and now Kiith Kendarat is reality. As has been the case with the other Kiith, Kendarat was given a Kiith banner, plus officious dominion over a city, in this case a medium-sized city near the Domed Gardens.

We appreciate your concern over our future, Lord DeGritz. However, we have been integrating pilots as living cores into capital ships for decades now, and we know for a fact that our methods do not, in any way, damage the "humanity" of the subject. Indeed, we are aware that many crucial decisions must be made in regard to human resources, motivation and quality of working life. Only a human with full emotions can make such decisions, and is able to consider the impact of certain decisions on our employees. Therefore, we do everything we can to preserve the "human side" of the Council.

Meh... can't complain at that answer. Very well, I don't suppose I could have a viewing? I'm a little intrigued now.

Of course, I understand this is a very sensative issue so you could just deny us this or even just take us to one of your ships, which isn't as important as your government, but works the same from what I understand.

I eagerly wait your reply.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
More information about Iuthia.... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41124&highlight=)
Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531)
Urbanites Region (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

We hope that this change will not affect our relationship.

To Celeborne

This will not change our relationship. We still consider you one of our closest allies and friends . We still remember who has always been by our side, and who was always honest to us.

To Iuthia

Your request honors us. That a nation as big as yours is intregued by us is a big compliment. However, we have only recently finished both our new fleet and the Council integration. Therefore, we are still a little wary of visitors. But please, ask again some time later, and we will certainly be able to find a good solution to satisfy your curiosity.

We are relieved to know that this change in your govermental format will not effect our long standing friendship and alliance. If you feel that you would like to share any of the technology involved in this change we would be happy to recieve it. However we understand the sensitivity of this project and will understand if you do not care to share it at this time.


If you need us, you have but to call.

Your request honors us. That a nation as big as yours is intregued by us is a big compliment. However, we have only recently finished both our new fleet and the Council integration. Therefore, we are still a little wary of visitors. But please, ask again some time later, and we will certainly be able to find a good solution to satisfy your curiosity.

Very well, we will wait for a couple years and allow you to fully install systems to protect your new leadership.

I am mainly interested in the intergration process of man (or woman in this case) and machine. Like you have said, you're previous intergrations have been successful and are fully capable of understanding the loss of human life when working out their calulations.

At this moment in time we are not interested in developing such intergration technology becuase we feel that a good command structure which has been heavily trained can achieve the same effect. Our own capital ships are ruled through normal command structure, with the assistance of computer calulations, graphic user interfaces and simulations.

However, I find the human mentality aspect of the whole intergration process interesting... I imagine you would have to choose the subject carefully from a willing group of volunteers.

I am also a little interested in how such a intergration would affect their general happiness, I imagine that it would be hard to stay compasionate about life when your own life has been stunted for the greater good.

Overall it's I would like to see how it's effected human nature...


Your concerns about security have been noted and we will withdraw our request for a year or two. We are willing to sign agreements outlining behaviour during such trips as I am sure there are things I will not be permitted to bring with me by default, like armed gaurds.

Thanks for listening,

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
More information about Iuthia.... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41124&highlight=)
Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531)
Urbanites Region (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

To Celeborne

Sorry, old friend, but extended integration technology is the only thing I will never pass on to other nations, not even my closest allies

To Iuthia

Maybe it helps when we clarify this: the integrated Council has no absolute power. It cannot act, because it is not connected to anything else but itself. Any order it gives first receives evaluation, by the Daiamid Council to be precise. However, twelve minds integrated into one make for much faster analysis of any situation. Therefore, our gain is not primarily in the accuracy and validity of our decisions, but most of all it lies in a huge increase of response time. In the new situation, the Daiamid does not have to wage endless discussions to consider each alternative. They instead receive the most likely, or most optimized, scenario from the High Council and evaluate that.

Therefore, our gain is not primarily in the accuracy and validity of our decisions, but most of all it lies in a huge increase of response time. In the new situation, the Daiamid does not have to wage endless discussions to consider each alternative. They instead receive the most likely, or most optimized, scenario from the High Council and evaluate that.

Thats why we have one overall benevolent dictator... though he can't work process the information that fast.

Next time I'll try to pay more attention, I skip read so I can process alot of communications quickly. I think I got most of it, but one or two things I may mis-understand... I guess thats human nature really.

Your reluctance is understood and respected.

Ponders what the hell that makes us in relation. IE who broke off from whom.

Ponders what the hell that makes us in relation. IE who broke off from whom.

Uhm, since you are older than Vortex... :roll:

True but we are mostly from Kiith Somtaaw.

True but we are mostly from Kiith Somtaaw.

Which would mean that Vortex Corp. has some "emigrants" from the Kiith Somtaaw :roll:

*goes back to trying to make a nice banner for Kiith Kendarat*

"Just out of interest what happens if one of the twelve happens although very unlikely to die? Also will we be able to see the one chosen to represent the twelve, so that we will not be confused in the future when she finally does represent you on important matters? Sorry for the questions but our kind are very curious about things, a trait we share with cats (Purrlinda gives a sexy smile)."

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Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)

OOC: looking confused...I guess I am the only non-homeworld, non-starwars space nation.....I still love ya Vort.

OOC: looking confused...I guess I am the only non-homeworld, non-starwars space nation.....I still love ya Vort.

Pokes Celeborne.

"Yo! Join Sisgardia already!"
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/Mishgan/energetic.gif

I did..Join that is :)

I did..Join that is :)

"Yo! Check the regional board!"
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/Mishgan/enthralled.gif

Official reply to Celeborne joining Sisgardia:

YAY!!!

Congradulations on this achievement, it is an amazing advance for nural science even if its ethics may be slightly questionable.. as long as the young woman is well treated and you can assure us she joined the program of her own free will then we wholehartedly support the change over,

Teo Holtzmann-Wisewood, Speeking on behalf of the High Council form inside the DLM

Congradulations on this achievement, it is an amazing advance for nural science even if its ethics may be slightly questionable.. as long as the young woman is well treated and you can assure us she joined the program of her own free will then we wholehartedly support the change over,

Teo Holtzmann-Wisewood, Speeking on behalf of the High Council form inside the DLM

Thank you for your kind words and your concerns for the young woman that has now become Council. We would like you to know that she volunteered for her task, and that she has repeatedly confirmed this. Also, she has said she does not mind sharing her inner self with twelve others. Or in her own words:

"I am honored to be the Keeper of these twelve great minds. Truly, I am proud to serve the Corporation in this way, and I hope that the integration of my body with the minds of the High Council will be beneficial to the Corporation and its allies."

patriotic little woman isnt she?
in any case, I, or should i say WE wish you all the best in the future, thats to TVC and the girl with the council in her head

Teo Holtzman-Wisewood

<I> applaud//congratulate the animals of <Vortex Corporation> on this improvement//evolution of <their> government.

<I> am certain <you> will soon realise how much more effient <your> nwe style of government is.

Prometheus.
The dark intellect.

<I> applaud//congratulate the animals of <Vortex Corporation> on this improvement//evolution of <their> government.

<I> am certain <you> will soon realise how much more effient <your> nwe style of government is.

Prometheus.
The dark intellect.

Thank you. Also, let us thank you for joining the ranks of the Sisgardian region. We are honored to have you amongst us, and hope that not only Council, but also the rest of our denizens, will soon enjoy commerce and political relations with your entity.

~Council.

<Machinator Sect>

<We> are pleased to be part of the region <Sisgardia>.
<I> for one look forward to engage in commercial relations with <TVC> once <our> infrastructure is fully completed.
It will be interesting to see if <I> am adequite for commerce.

<Uranium-Torch>
Alfa of Cybrid Commerce.

rather interesting. i have to say that i find this new move in the TVC government interesting, and i can see that obvious advantages, i would be lying if i said i didn't have any reservations about this change. the most obvious being what would happen should the carrier die. i would assume that would lead to a complete shutdown of the council and thus the government. i do hope that i am wrong however, and that you have foreseen this in your planning.

either way, this development will not affect the DLM's relation with TVC, at least from our end

-Brain

If any change will be seen in the relations between DLM and TVC, then that will most certainly be nothing else than an increase of contact between us. At the very least, we hope to sustain the current ties between us, and we are always looking forward to engaging in new ventures and relationships with our allies.

As for your question, that is a good one. The bodies of the twelve councelors are still intact and alive. And their minds are still in their own bodies. The carrier serves as a forum, where the 12 minds can come together and directly interact, without the confusing use of language, both verbal and non-verbal. After all, we know that normal ways of conversation are always subject to interpretation, and many things are therefore misunderstood. Also, direct mental interaction allows sharing information much more faster.

So if the carrier would die, the twelve minds would simply withdraw into their own bodies, until a new carrier is found. Should that happen, the biggest disadvantage would be that the Council would have a much slower and less rational decision-making process during the time of transition to a new carrier.

OOC: that and i would guess minor disorientation and quite a large headache :lol:

OOC: that and i would guess minor disorientation and quite a large headache :lol:

Very big headache. But there's a kilo of aspirins in the vicinity 24/7.