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Intelligence on Nautonnier and his recreations.

Nefrotos
05-09-2003, 02:40
Alright. I'm just starting a thread that discusses the current situation on Nautonnier, his recreations (currently Nautonnier2), and all his allies (currently, as far as I know, The Absinthe Minded and Twerk).

Just an intelligence thread.

First, I think I should go into the history of Nautonnier. When I entered NationStates, I was kindly offered by Nautonnier to enter his region, The Liberty League. I took him up on his offer and joined willingly. He invited several other nations, including Eryka, FeeFeeLand, The Drinking Masses, and Nefarian. Well, a short time after they entered, we were all encouraged by Nautonnier to join the UN. We were also asked to participate as actively as possible. None of this was required, but it was recommended. If I remember correctly, FeeFeeLand shortly became the first UN delegate of The Liberty League. Nautonnier quickly ejected Eryka, FeeFeeLand, The Drinking Masses, and Nefarian for trying to over-throw his region.

Being new, I didn't know what he was talking about and asked him about it. He told me that they were tyrants trying to take over The Liberty League. Being gullible, I believed him...at least until I got a telegram from The Drinking Masses. He told me that endorsements lead to a UN delegate being named. I figured that, since Nautonnier had asked them to join the UN and participate (which would include endorsing others), he kicked him out for doing what he had asked. I immediately apologized to Drinking Masses and the others booted by Nautonnier and sought out an apology from the inhabitants of The Liberty League. I got one nation to make an apology: Dominica Diablo. He was the only one who was willing to give one. After four days, Nautonnier checked back and found out I was trying to get an apology from The Liberty League (and possibly the unbanning of the four nations kicked). I then was labeled a tyrant and booted with the other four, whom I joined in Lycanthropia. They had told me previously that I was welcome to their region because I attempted to help them when I felt they were wrongly persecuted.

After he booted me, Nautonnier went griefing. He went to The Crimson Order and started making rather rude and snyde comments to the leaders there. He was kicked out of there. I told the leaders there about what he was doing and quickly gained them as allies.

Nautonnier then went after The Corporate Islands, which were very wise to take my warning and boot him quickly. By this time, Crimson Sparta, one of the leaders of The Crimson Order, had declared war in these forums against Nautonnier. Lycanthropia was quick to join, but found out that Nautonnier had given his nation away to Violator, Inc. The war ended without even really starting.

During the time between Nautonnier's start of inactivity and Nautonnier2's arrival, Lycanthropia and all other regions went on about their own business. Then, all of a sudden, Eryka gets called up by NS (NationStates) operators for his flag. He attempt to defend it and gets kicked out of NationStates, leaving Lycanthropia without a founder.

Shortly before Nautonnier2's creation, The Absinthe Minded asked if they could enter Lycanthropia. I asked the region if it was ok, and they didn't mind. However, later I found that Mastersonia had been telegramed before me. He inquired why he wished to enter and was told not to inquire for his safety. He went silent for a week.

So, without Mastersonia's intervention, I give The Absinthe Minded the password. They enter for maybe a few minutes and leave. Then Twerk came in and posted something about doing my work. Everyone, including myself, had no clue as to what he was referring. I look where he came from (The Convicts) and find that Twerk had spammed their message board IN LYCANTHROPIA'S name. I immediately boot him (being the delegate at the time) and watched him closely.

What I then find out is this:

Both Absinthe Minded and Twerk are working for Nautonnier2, Nautonnier's new nation.
Eryka's flag was reported by Nautonnier to get him kicked out and leave Lycanthropia without a founder.
Nautonnier was planning an attack and was attempting to rile up The Convicts into attacking us.

Well, for starters, this was a bit of a shock. I was delegate and no founder was there to help, so the region work was pretty much up to me. I changed passwords rather frequently and my own nation's password as well. Nautonnier continued to make threats at our region and relation nations, as well as The Crimson Order. He also demanded passcodes of nearly every nation in Lycanthropia. He boasted on having passcodes to the region and others, which also encouraged more password changes.

Eventually, I and other Lycanthropian nations (mainly at the help of Donaldbain), realized that it was very likely Nautonnier2 (aka Naughty at this point) was just blowing hot air. We still haven't seen any of his ally regions that he boasted and there wasn't one entrance by an unknown nation into Lycanthropia. I also had, with all the password changes, chased off The Drinking Masses, Nefarian, and FeeFeeLand. After a long pep talk from FeeFeeLand, my morale was boosted and worked toward bringing everyone back together.

Also, in this time, I made it clear to The Convicts that I, nor any Lycanthropian, sent Twerk to spam their message board. They agreed to ally, at least distantly.

After I had gotten my wits back, Donaldbain started the offensive. He found out the passcode to The Artery (Naughty's region created to eliminate us) and entered the region. However, this was late at night, and I was the only one who was active at the time. I went over to help, yet was thrown out before the night was done. I reentered Lycanthropia knowing I couldn't do any more damage. However, I did ask my fiancee, Empress Blaze of Tienan Vias, to help Donaldbain's quest in The Artery's disbandment. She graciously agreed and helped Donaldbain put an end to Naughty's second threat.

However, the events weren't quite over yet.

The next day, members of The Convicts moved into The Artery after it was taken over and essentially took hold of it for a few days. Their movement pretty much shot what alliance we had. Of course, I learned a little later that they were also working with Naughty.

Then, for about the next month, it was--again--business as usual.

Now, Naughty is starting the whole mess back up again. The Artery is recreated... Absinthe Minded is now rallying The New World Empire against Lycanthropia... and it's likely Twerk will be working with Naughty again, although that has yet to be determined.

That is all.

The President of Nefrotos --

Arbitrary

Edit: The forums that Nautonnier has posted on this topic are as follows:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60647

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52172
Nefrotos
05-09-2003, 02:49
Well, it appears as if Twerk is working with Naughty again.
Nefrotos
05-09-2003, 03:06
About The Convicts.

Most have died off. However, Wicked Hogs is still present. I honestly think, though, that he has broken ties with Nautonnier. We'll see. So far, he's not causing any problems with Lycanthropia, so he won't get much attention from us until he starts showing ties.
Tienan Vias
07-09-2003, 15:59
You are the most LONG winded person I have ever met in my entire life!
Nefrotos
08-09-2003, 03:40
And your point is?

Anyway, it seems Naughty2 and Twerk have joined with Absinthe Minded in assaulting us with The New World Empire.

I still don't think it will have any effect on us.

Also, it appears as Wicked Hogs is not planning anything against Lycanthropia. He is minding his own business. So, as far as I'm concerned, he's off the hook unless he suddenly resides with Naughty.
08-09-2003, 06:12
NEW INFORMATION: My contact inside the New World Empire reports that Nautonnier2 has joined them and is working an agreement on an invasion. More details to come.
Nefrotos
08-09-2003, 13:07
I figured as much. If you happen to hear what it is, it would be good to notify everyone here. Good work.
Nefrotos
09-09-2003, 12:57
It appears as if The Imperial Council might attack with The New World Order if it attacks Lycanthropia next. I found out about them from The New World Empire's last raid on a region. Good thing I looked around...

Edit: Sorry about that, Eshek.
09-09-2003, 21:02
The New World Empire (not order) will NOT be invading Lycanthropia. Nor will the Imperial Council. I do not tolerate griefers and I will not tolerate being used by a trickster. He'll be enjoying his new home in the Rejected Realms very soon.
Nefrotos
10-09-2003, 04:53
I am happy to hear that Nautonnier2, the Absinthe Minded, and Twerk will not be supported in their venture to attack Lycanthropia. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Nefrotos
11-09-2003, 13:19
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60647

Read the last post. It appears as if Naughty is calling off this war. It might seem that Lycanthropia won...at least in a sense. I guess we've been keeping good enough tabs on him that he gave up. Good work everyone.

However, this doesn't mean we won't still be watching. It pays to make sure someone keeps with what he said he'd do.

Also, this might speak for him, but The Absinthe Minded and Twerk are still not known whether they still seek us or not. I'm not too worried, though. They were under Nautonnier's orders. He might have asked them to drop the business, too.

I don't know. This could even be another trick, but I'll treat it as if he means it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. If he ends up attacking us again, I'll fight. However, if he means what he says, I shouldn't need to.

On a side note, there is only one more nation in The Liberty League. It is almost timed out, too. At first, the region was good. Until Nautonnier kicked out the four for 'overthrowing his region' (or an attempt), it was rather fun. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. When I went to Lycanthropia, it reminded me of that first experience in The Liberty League. I would have liked to see this whole business not happen, but that would have required that Nautonnier not worry about the delegate. Oh well. Maybe some day someone with a right mind about them can reform it. When the region disappears, maybe it could be reformed again with a better leader. You never know. Maybe, if Lycanthropians are attacked, which might one day happen, and kicked out of the region (at least defeated), we might reform where we originated from...The Liberty League. We could also go to New Lycanthropia in rememberance of the hard work and time we had all spent together. It might never happen. Either way, life will go on.
Nefrotos
14-09-2003, 03:55
It appears that The Republic of Twerk has bought the farm. He recently started sexually harrassing Empress Blaze of Tienan Vias. He only got a warning. Two hours ago, he was removed. He might have fought. Oh well. One less person to watch.
Nefrotos
14-09-2003, 18:00
Ok. Current summing up of what is current.

War with Nautonnier2, The Absinthe Minded, and Twerk is over.

Twerk is dead.

The Absinthe Minded is in the New World Empire just chilling.

Nautonnier2 is (I suppose) also still with the New World Empire, just region hopping as a fighter. I guess no one knows who he's with, but it's not our concern to warn anyone about him unless he restarts his grief war.

Bo Bo Land and Wicked Hogs have gone about their own business. They no longer bother with us.

That is all.

President Arbitrary of Nefrotos
Nefrotos
15-09-2003, 05:22
It might finally happen.

The Liberty League has just lost its last member due to inactivity. In a matter of hours, it will be no more. If Nautonnier wants the region back, he may have it. As far as I'm concerned, when it goes, the past is history. There won't be any more evidence of Nautonnier except in the Syrus Cult Sanctuary and Nautonnier2. Well... That's life for what it's worth.
Nefrotos
15-09-2003, 13:13
Well, it's happened. The Liberty League has bit the dust. It is officially gone.
16-09-2003, 06:17
A round of drinks on the house in Mickey's Bar and Grill. All are welcome. Just mention the fall of The Liberty League and get great drink specials.
Nefrotos
19-09-2003, 02:35
It appears as Bo bo land AND the Absinthe Minded have ceased to exist? I'm suddenly very surprised. I wonder what happened to them...
Nefrotos
20-09-2003, 14:16
Ok, I recently found out what happened to Twerk, The Absinthe Minded, and Bo bo land, but because the informant does not wish me to speak of it, I can't explain.

I will say they deserved it from what I heard. (I still don't have the full story, but that's ok.)
Nautonnier2
24-09-2003, 01:24
I thought it fitting to add my own little "intellegence" to this matter: As of today, Lycanthropia has become defunct. This is the second region NEFROTOS has encouraged to fail. His whiny meanderings and quirky little love affair with TIENAN VIAS have ruined both my former region -- THE LIBERTY LEAGUE -- and now the region he scurried off to: LYCANTHROPIA. After chasing away his original partners-in-crime -- THE DRINKING MASSES, NEFARIAN, and DONALDBAIN to their respite in MICKEY'S BAR AND GRILL, Tienan Vias created a little region designed exclusively for their cute little patter between them appropriately titled THE WORLD ACCORDING TO US.
After long last, I can declare Lycanthropia, as it once existed, defeated and defunct. After a short reign where the delegateship was assumed by inactive players -- only to fall back into the hands of an active one after they were deleted -- the original members are now gone.
I will offer up the role call of the dead as Nefrotos so politely did earlier in this post:

ERYKA was deleted due to obscenity.
NEFARIAN, DRINKING MASSES, and DONALDBAIN went on to a new region.
NEFROTOS and TIENAN VIAS eloped to their lame, private getaway.

And now the most prolific player is I, NAUTONNIER2.

Go on and cry to the moderators now that I am doing something that you have been so high and mighty to do, you ridiculous little hypocrite: and that is to declare a victory over you. Your friends have turned on you and if I so desired, I could squash you as you are protected only by your little girlfriend.
Maybe I should pay a visit over to MICKEYS and buy a round on the house. We will drink to your demise.
Have fun over in your "world." It sounds like a great time.
Tienan Vias
24-09-2003, 02:22
As it stands right now, I could care less what the mods are going to do to me. First of all...AHHHHHHHH!!!! WOULD YOU PEOPLE LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE??? I am about to go insane. Damnit folks. Its a GAME! Get it! A GAME!!! As it stands right now, the only reason I left was so I could give the members of Lycanthropia a break from ME. This had nothing to do with Nefrotos, you dick. He just went with me for moral support because that's what a good fiancee' does. Why can't you get that through your head? You are nothing but a shiftless, asthetic, most likely erectilily dysfunct son of a bitch that I have ever seen in my life! Forget you being right. You're the most pathetic excuse for a power hungry dictator in the region. Get over yourself. We don't care. If Lycanthropia dies then so be it. Gah! You physically sicken me. Just go back to hell and stay there this time.
Tienan Vias
24-09-2003, 02:32
Even if Lycanthropia does die...That's still 2 regions less than those that died under you.
Nefrotos
24-09-2003, 03:07
Ok, Naughty. This is it. I'm tired of your lying, your insults, your rudeness, your incompetence, and everything else about you. You have no intelligence to post here. I am VERY sick of you. The Drinking Masses, Nefarian, and Donaldbain aren't dead. Neither are Tienan Vias and I. And Eryka died because YOU reported him. Your allies that I posted as dead ARE dead. They got in trouble with the mods and deserve their fate. You should have joined them long ago.

Now I'm only going to say this once. I have only four more words for you:

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Also, might I remind you that no one from Lycanthropia is on their SECOND NATION (Nautonnier--->2<---).
Nefarian
25-09-2003, 18:49
Word.
Nefrotos
03-10-2003, 02:37
Hey, guess what? Everyone except for Donaldbain has returned to Lycanthropia. So guess where you can stick your post, Naughy? :twisted:
Nefrotos
06-10-2003, 03:42
Well, it's been a while.

Everyone is back in Lycanthropia (Yay!) except for Donaldbain (Aww...) because he's fed up with the game. I can't help but feel partially responsible for him leaving, so I send him my apology. Sorry if I chased you off.

Nefarian has some business going on, which I'm not letting in on. Classified stuff, you know.

Other than that, we're putting on a new slate, which is Nefarian's doing. I don't have a problem with it. I'd say more power to him.

By the way, IT'S GREAT BEING BACK!!!
Nefrotos
09-10-2003, 23:23
I don't know what is going on, but apparently, there is some attack planned against Lycanthropia, but people are popping in out of the woodworks to help Lycanthropians... It's absolutely amazing. I'm quite stunned... and surprised... yet, quite honored... They've been endorsing Nefarian to keep him in power, which is good. And, oddly enough, they might be the little pickup we needed to get our region started up again.
Nefrotos
10-10-2003, 20:02
I would like to thank all the regions that helped.

As to what I see, it was likely Nautonnier2 had something planned, but the region defenders who had been watching prevented Nautonnier2 from doing anything of importance. Also, the NWE had no sanction in the attack as well as told Nautonnier that Lycanthropia was off limits, which he obviously followed. However, the help seems to have deterred attack long enough for me to talk with the NWE and call off the attack. However, they started no offense. They weren't planning an attack. I highly suspect Nautonnier2 had convinced a couple nations from NWE to invade us, but that obviously didn't work very long. I'm not saying he did, but I find it very likely.
Nefrotos
12-10-2003, 17:52
It seems like Nefarian has decided to join Donaldbain. Farewell. May your evil spirt haunt those you hate forever.
Nefrotos
22-10-2003, 03:11
Since the last recap, Lycanthropia had a rather large invasion. With the help of some region protectors and the NWE (glad they're on our side), we were able to deter the invaders, who were likely under the command of Naughty.

After that entire ordeal, Lycanthropia got real quiet and Nefarian left soon after the deterred attack. He went and joined Donaldbain in the tombs. May they both rest in peace or haunt Naughty until he is no more. Lycanthropia will certainly miss such great fighters.

After Nefarian left, Lycanthropia has been very quite. Very little has occurred. Empress Blaze tried to break up the monotony, but quickly drew the attention of Naughty, who decided to leave a message on our region message board. He has now been warned a second time to stay out of Lycanthropia by the NWE.

Again, I would like to thank all those who helped protect us and the NWE for offering protection against future invasions and the one person we hate most, who happens to be a member of the NWE. If Naughty tries something stupid and gets into trouble, the NWE will NOT be held responsible unless good reason has been found. As far as I see, they show no hostilities towards us.

Cordially,

President Arbitrary of Nefrotos
Nefrotos
22-10-2003, 03:12
Didn't mean to double post.
Nefrotos
22-10-2003, 03:12
Nefrotos
25-10-2003, 04:30
Well, Donaldbain has finally gone. May you rest in peace.
Nefrotos
27-10-2003, 14:19
The Republic of Nautonnier2
Received: 6 hours ago

"No one else is going to "take a stab at things." You have "dorked-out" the region. You people are way too boring. You are a band-geek with no life. Lycanthropia, the way that Eryka and Nefarian built it up is left in the hands of a dorky band-geek and his on-line lover. Get a clue. So you sit high and mighty and beg your "friends" to talk to you. Have a great time. Or, better yet, run off to TEMPLE OF TOMBS like our old pal Donaldbain and his boyfriend Nefarian. But rest assured that I will not stop until Lycanthropia is erased from nationstates.net. That is a promise. End it now and you will never hear from me again."

Yes, I realize I'm boring. Yes, I'm a 'band-geek', but I have a life. The 'band-geek' is only one aspect of my life. You assume that me telling you about band tells you of my entire life. You have no idea. I know how Lycanthropia has been built up. I'd like it to be that way again. It is also not just in my hands. Also, you're the one who had Eryka removed over an 'insulting' flag. There were others with the flag, but it didn't matter to you. You only wanted to attack those you thought were going to destroy you. It doesn't matter that we were brand new and the entire attack you thought we were throwing against The Liberty League was a figmant of your twisted imagination. I'm not alone, either. FeeFeeLand and The Drinking Masses are still here. Also, I am doing no begging. I am merely seeking discussion if wanted. The only reason you're here is to eliminate Lycanthropia. What's the point in that? We didn't ruin The Liberty League. You kicked us out and started griefing. We didn't even touch The Liberty League after you had left. It was YOUR OWN FAULT that The Liberty League (as well as The Artery, for that matter) that they died. Blaming it on us won't change anything. If you didn't create the Artery to destroy us and if you realized you could have just reentered the region, it would also still be in its first exsistence. You've got a one-track mind. I'm doing no running. You're the only one who's run anywhere. Not only did you ditch your first nation, but you ran from your first and second region as well. Donaldbain and Nefarian were FAR from being friends of yours. Nefarian wasn't bored of anyone in particular other than you. He was just tired of playing a game where someone as rude and obnoxious as you was allowed to play a respectible game. Your promises are empty and seeking the destruction of Lycanthropia isn't the only thing you wish. You are a frelling wuss. I am very tempted to dare you just to see you thrown out of NWE. It might be one of the best things they ever did. The only way it is going to end now is if you finish your running at the tombs.

You getting your trills out of this, you jerk? I might be boring, but you're down right insulting and annoying. I only hope the mods will finally get their stuff together and remove you for good like they should have when you first did this. It's only a matter of time when a region decides to label you as a NWE invader and you're thrown out with some of their more respectible nations from NWE. Now, if you mind... I've got a life to return to.
Tienan Vias
27-10-2003, 14:40
I'm not his on-line lover. I am his flesh and blood fiancee so you can go fuck off. As far as I'm concerned, you've only sent this TG because you're so bored with yourself that you can't stand it. You call him boring...At least he has at girlfriend. You couldn't even get an online sexslave. :twisted:
Nefrotos
30-10-2003, 04:38
Yeah, I kinda blabbed back there, but not again. There is more secret stuff learned, but I'm not telling unless asked by pure blood Lycanthropians. They must TG me for the info. (Sorry, Naughty. I'm not going to just tell you. You'll find out when all is revealed.)

Plus, I have a secret of my own I am thinking of carrying out... Telegrams about this will not likely be answered... It's a fallback plan, but it is also a plan of secrecy.
Nefrotos
09-11-2003, 08:00
Seems the NWE is going through some management problems. Good luck to the entire group. It doesn't really matter what happens, considering that Lycanthropia is a (loose) ally with the NWE and it's members (except for Nautonnier2). All I can say is that I hope they get things worked out over there and get to a comfortable situation.
Padmasa
09-11-2003, 08:06
Ah, I am glad to see our allies have kept a watch on this scum. Nefrotos, I would just like to tell you that once again The Crimson Order is a live and thriving region, who will help you in any way we can against Nautonnier. It is good to be back.
Nefrotos
11-11-2003, 05:52
Well, it's nice that you appreciate the work that is done to watch Nautonnier.

However, I believe I have done something rather bad. I've chased off The Drinking Masses, who I considered (and still consider despite his change of alliance) a good friend of mine. He's allied himself with Nautonnier, which is quite unfortunate. I would feel really bad about it, but he was getting agitated, so the break is probably necessary.

If he doesn't come back, that's alright. It's up to him. If he comes back, he will still be welcome.
Nautonnier2
11-11-2003, 07:03
That is awfully benevolent of you, Nef.
Nefrotos
11-11-2003, 14:35
I don't know whether that's sarcasm or you're being honest, but it doesn't really matter.

I still stand by what I say, which is that I understand if The Drinking Masses is mad at me, he's still welcome back if he wishes to come back, and if he doesn't, that's alright too. I'm not angry with him, but I'm not going to force him to do anything, either.
Nautonnier2
12-11-2003, 18:03
Bully for you. You're such a great man. I stand in awe of you.
Nefrotos
13-11-2003, 06:19
Now I know you're BSing me. Will you please go away? You're very annoying.
Nefrotos
14-11-2003, 04:53
I am a frickin' knucklehead. After going about all that business of saying I wasn't mad at DM, I go and blow up in his face when he returns, even if he is likely trying to crash the region. I'm sorry about that, DM. Serious case of foot-in-mouth disease I've got...

Also, FeeFeeLand has died. I will greatly miss her. She was very inspirational and kind. I hope I wasn't the one to chase her off. I would feel bad about that... It's bad enough I chased Nefarian and DM off... I didn't mean to... They were all very kind to me when I tried and helped them at the start. I should trust them and get back to treating them as friends, not as 'possible invaders' as Nautonnier2 had treated them when he was Nautonnier. I had best be careful or I might actually be just as bad.
Nefrotos
14-11-2003, 06:05
Things are about to change...
Nautonnier2
14-11-2003, 16:56
Neffy was right when he said "things are about to change." He currently cools his heels in THE REJECTED REALMS. Hey, that may very well be the most appropriate place for you. Sorry about tricking you over in Lycanthropia. I was just stalling for time so that DM could get his delegate thing on.
In our little battle we have waged, I have won. It is over. Your region was crashed and you were ejected. I used only former allies of yours. Now perhaps the best thing for you to do is to sit idle until you are deleted. It only takes twenty-eight days.
And if Tienan Vias would ever like to cross over and join the winning team, she is more than welcome. We could use a girl like her over here.

Yours truly,
Nautonnier2
Padmasa
14-11-2003, 19:49
Neffy was right when he said "things are about to change." He currently cools his heels in THE REJECTED REALMS. Hey, that may very well be the most appropriate place for you. Sorry about tricking you over in Lycanthropia. I was just stalling for time so that DM could get his delegate thing on.
In our little battle we have waged, I have won. It is over. Your region was crashed and you were ejected. I used only former allies of yours. Now perhaps the best thing for you to do is to sit idle until you are deleted. It only takes twenty-eight days.
And if Tienan Vias would ever like to cross over and join the winning team, she is more than welcome. We could use a girl like her over here.

Yours truly,
Nautonnier2

I wonder.... how long will your reign last? Hmmmmmm... Do you have your eyes set on The Order, now? I truely hope you don't think you can do anything to us... But I have a favor to ask of you, give me a reason, an IC reason... That's all I want. You know why.
Nefrotos
14-11-2003, 20:13
You have no idea what I have planned, shmuck. You have absolutely no idea...

And yes, they are changing. However, I doubt you'd like any of them, Naughty.
Crimson Sparta
14-11-2003, 20:40
I wonder.... how long will your reign last? Hmmmmmm... Do you have your eyes set on The Order, now? I truely hope you don't think you can do anything to us... But I have a favor to ask of you, give me a reason, an IC reason... That's all I want. You know why.

Very well spoken, Padmasa. We desperately need a good reason to take this rogue nation out.
Padmasa
14-11-2003, 22:17
Very well spoken, Padmasa. We desperately need a good reason to take this rogue nation out.

In an ideal world we will have worked out an alliance with Arda before he gives us justification. Just think of it Both Arda and TCO stomping on him...
Nefrotos
20-11-2003, 14:34
Well, I've now moved from The Crimson Order (Thanks a lot for your help!), and, by their suggestion, I have relocated to The Liberty League, the original creation of Nautonnier (predecessor of Nautonnier2). Anyone wishing to join (except Naughty since he would grief other regions) is more than welcome to come over. Empress Blaze I'm sure is going to move over (just needs some time).

Anyway, since I'm founder, there shouldn't be any problems from anyone from now on (mainly since I'm active). Even Naughty would have problems annoying/griefing us.
Nefrotos
21-11-2003, 03:42
I've just made a very important (and long) post in The Liberty League. It goes as such:

Made a tiny update to the WFB. I have a really good friend in ICW that wishes us to be allies. Being allies does deter problems. I have excluded Nautonnier2, since he is a known griefer (five months... sheesh). The Drinking Masses is welcome to join as long as he doesn't bother the other nations. (I don't mind if he pesters me. Pestering others, though...) Also, Mathias Prime (another great friend) is going to see what he can do towards making The Liberty League known. When I have time this weekend, I'll do a little recruiting myself.

As far as region specifics go, if anyone wishes to invite friends, feel free to do so as long as they do not offend other region members. The offense does matter. If I see the offense as being minor, I will likely do nothing. If it is serious, I'll give at least one warning before I boot anyone. The only person who isn't welcome is Nautonnier2. The list of those unwelcome will grow if we encounter griefers, spammers, or nations who are extremely offensive (use vulgar language every post, speak of others in an offensive way, try to lower the quality and/or reputation of the region for selfish reasons). Spamming is allowed, if 1) there's a good reason and 2) I know the reason. And the reason has to be REALLY good. A critical secret would count. 'Just because' is no reason. Flags will not be reported by anyone here (since flags really aren't grounds for ejection, even if they involve giving 'the bird').

Also, nations who need a home are more than welcome here (as long as kindness is maintained). I will do all I can to help those who need it.

If I make a mistake, please let me know. I will be more than happy to apologize for mistakes I make. I accept my faults openly. I never said I was perfect.

I have a good number of allies, so getting all of them listed might be more than the Factbook entry can handle. I'll probably keep the allies listed in the "Intelligence on Nautonnier2" thread. They might include single nations or entire regions.

About the UN... Nations are free to join the UN IF THEY WISH. It is not a requirement. If they do join, it's up to them. The delegate in this region will have no power to leave the region free for all, but still protected from crashers and griefers. However, I will consider advice given to me by the UN delegate.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please TG me. I will look at all of them. If you are on the unwanted list (Nautonnier2 so far), your telegram will be read, but a response will not be given. I will not get myself all worked up over annoying people.

Sincerely,

President Arbitrary of Nefrotos


Allies will eventually be sorted through and listed in a separate post.
Nefrotos
05-12-2003, 04:47
Ah, Christmas time.

Well, things have gotten to be much quieter since Naughty has decide 'he won.' Hehe. Oh well. Thanksgiving went well and all the nations of The Liberty League are now preparing for Christmas! Gifts are being prepared by the few nations we have. If nothing else, we'll enjoy a nice Christmas. Anyway, if anyone reads this, I would like them to know that The Liberty League is an open region. Those who wish to visit or even find a new home are welcome to enter. As long as nations don't offend others, we will have no problems. And the offense has to be pretty bad.

Merry Christmas, NationStates!
Nefrotos
12-12-2003, 22:30
Well, two new people have joined The Liberty League since the last post. Just posting a welcome message to the two.

EDIT: Yay! Less than ten days!
Nefrotos
25-12-2003, 21:50
Well, it seems as if Christmas is here. I hope everyone has had as good a Christmas as I've had.
Nefrotos
17-01-2004, 05:08
I figure I ought to post something after so long, so here goes.

First, Nautonnier2 is sticking to straight region crashing. He hasn't gotten himself killed yet, but it will eventually happen. DM and The Free Roaming Hens (probably his puppet) are in and out of Lycanthropia (currently out). The only one in there is Status Quo2, whom I believe now refers to me as a "long-winded retard" who whines "on and on about his on-line girlfriend and his computer games and whatnot."

If you've got a problem with what I talk about, don't read it.

Naughty is currently residing in The Alliance of Imperials, which is a region devoted to region crashing (who would have guessed).

Also, someone by the name of "I Hate Nefrotos" (real original) is wandering around (currently in Europe). Probably a puppet of any of the fools above (Naughty, DM, FRH, SQ2). He was a real conversationalist (heavy sarcasm).

As for The Liberty League, we're not really big, but we're good. Don't know what's going on with Kharnak, but other than that, no problems.
Nefarian
23-02-2004, 03:05
You need to update the gossip rag, Nefrotos. After the period of Naut2's control over Lycanthropia, it was taken by The Empire of What Ever and then retaken by you and TV. Impressive. I wonder what plans you have for this region after your victory.
Nefrotos
02-03-2004, 15:02
Ok, then. I'll do so now.

1st and most important of all, Nautonnier2's work is reversed. About a week or two ago, Empress Blaze and I, in our pet nations, retook Lycanthropia, which was kindly offered back to us by chance because I was in the regional ban list. The Alliance of Imperials had the region, but after upsetting the region, they began fighting back.

Nefarian was secretly fighting as an operative. He got the password and he was going to use some nations from The Empire of What Ever to take Lycanthropia out of Nautonnier2 and the AOI's hands.

To make a long story short, the nations helping Nefarian turned on him and took the region in the name of The Empire of What Ever. They kicked out Nefarian and then StatusQuo2, who was being rather insulting. They occupied the region for some time, but I was at least got an offer from them.

The EoWE deliberated on it for some time. The person who invaded the region eventually gave it to me, but asked for my help in calming down the Freedom Fighters, who had made a mess in one of the region's The EoWE had crashed earlier. I talked to them, but couldn't get much done. The person in FF that I speaked to didn't seem to think he was doing anything wrong. He probably wasn't, but I stated that The EoWE just did what they did. Essentially, FF repeated what EoWE just did in the crashed region.

Anyway, after some time of talking with this individual from FF, I decided to go ahead and at least get Lycanthropia back. Empress Blaze and I worked together, she took the delegateship, and we took everything back for it. Now everything Naughty has done in Lycanthropia is mostly back to normal. We don't have the nations we used to have, but oh well.

In other news, ICW's leader has died out, and now the region is falling apart. Because of this, I've removed them from the allies list. They were the only region crashing region allied to The Liberty League. Oh well.

Also, The GPA has had some really heated arguements recently over the past and new president there. They are in the negotiation phase, which is good. United Earth Sphere was the old president and was getting tired of the GPA actions. He left for The Liberty League. After that, he was being accused of treason by The Captain. After a lot of arguing and The Captain labeling himself Supreme Overlord (in a democracy?!), both sides have calmed down and are currently discussing the problems. At least they are working things out.

Finally, "I Hate Nefrotos" has run out of idle time and has now died. I'm not missing the dork. StatusQuo2 appears to be close to that same fate. Another person I won't miss. Now if only Nautonnier2 (and The Drinking Masses now) would do that...

Yeah, about DM... He can go rot with Naughty for all I care. He betrayed Lycanthropia to not just me, but all of his fellow regions. Our region decayed to almost nothing because of his actions. For that, I'm afraid I can't forgive him. For attacking me, maybe, but he attacked all Lycanthropians who would not outright dislike me and Empress Blaze. The Free Roaming Hens are also not coming back, since his alliance with DM is known. StatusQuo2 and Nautonnier2 can forget any dreams they have of reentering Lycanthropia, if those two fruitcakes would even do such a thing. Nautonnier2 is still in the AOI, which has now become hardly a crashing region. Morvran is the only person holding that place together. Naughty is just another underling.

Anyway, that's my update. That should catch everyone up who cares to watch.

EDIT: Oh, plans for Lycanthropia? Well... I'm not exactly sure as of now. I think the region might be a bit too unstable without a founder. Lycanthropia should be a free-roaming region, where nations of any type can enter and leave as they wish. The only problem: we have to leave the region long enough for it to disappear. Now, if we do that, I personally Nefarian to have it. My puppet region will still be there, but then I can leave the UN again. Personally, it's up to Nefarian. If he would like the region reformed with himself as the founder, let's do that. If he would like to leave it as only delegate owned, we can do that, too. Either way, a decision has to be made about the foundership of the region. If we decide to go with remaking it with a founder, Nefarian will need to watch it pretty close to make sure no one takes it from him. It's risky, but managable. Plus, I think Nefarian would be pretty good for the job.

If he doesn't want to be founder but still wishes to have a founder, I'm pretty sure Empress Blaze wouldn't mind with her second region (or even her original). We'll just have to see.
Nefrotos
13-03-2004, 05:53
Status Quo2 has now retired.

As for interregional news, The GPA and TLL had a bit of a tussle when one of the nations from The GPA left to TLL. The current president attempted to seek the nation out and start a war with him on the grounds of treason. After some talking, the problem has been resolved. I made it clear to the people at the GPA that TLL is a safe haven. I refuse to have a region attacked while I'm in charge. Especially if they are one of the nations occupying TLL.

Either way, things have worked out for the best and The GPA and TLL are back to normal, friendly relations. No more problems here.
Nefrotos
14-03-2004, 07:09
Well, since it's Spring Break for me, I might as well take the time to let everyone know what all is going on in the regions I know of directly.

The Liberty League -- Now that the problems between itself and the GPA have been resolved, the group is in good shape. No problems here.

The Guardian Patriot Alliance -- Currently going through electing a new president. Current candidates: The Captain and Bueno. Good luck to the both of you.

The Crimson Order -- Going about their own business. Seems a friend of theirs, Bumplords, is back and willing to say he's sorry to those he feels he insulted. Very good on his part.

The Imperial Commonwealth -- Officially dead. Only five nations remaining. Removed from ally list.

The Alliance of Imperials -- Going through its own little tussle. Apparently, they crashed China, however they did it illegally. Now they've got mods breathing down their neck. Also, the founder of their region is unresponsive. Morvran also seems out of the picture. JediKnights is scrambling to gather all the currently active nations there to rebuild what is left of the group.

The Empire of What Ever -- I haven't checked, but they're probably going about their own business.

Lycanthropia -- Recaptured, but nothing new is going on there. Nefarian seems pretty inactive... Oh well. He'll eventually tell me what he wants to do with Lycanthropia.

Specific nations of interest:
Both "I Hate Nefrotos" and "Status Quo2" are dead. Timed out.

Nautonnier2 seems to be unphased by the first capture of The Liberty League and the recapture of Lycanthropia. In fact, he seems apathetic to The Alliance of Imperials as well.

The Drinking Masses is keeping alive. He is quite active, but has done nothing for several weeks now.

The Free Roaming Hens is running out of time. It has about a week before it's toast.

Nefarian hasn't been on very much the past few days, though has logged in just recently. I wonder what he's thinking...
Nefrotos
25-03-2004, 13:39
The Free Roaming Hens have disbanded. Only a few old ones left.

Also, TLL is now having a party for Mathias, who has now returned from negotiations with The GPA! Glad to see him back.
Nautonnier2
12-04-2004, 08:26
Don't count me out, Neffy...
Mao Tse Tung said once that "there are no small enemies." I feel assured that your nation will fall into my hands. I have taken on a small experiment with my puppet nation (it is the first puppet I've tried) and have proven myself quite successful. Other dorks with plenty of spare time on their hands have given their lives to me, and I will never forget you. When I am bored with everything else, I will come for you. I'm just waiting for you to matter...
Crimson Sparta
12-04-2004, 18:20
Nautonnier will never learn that threats without action don't get him anywhere.
Nefrotos
13-04-2004, 14:30
Uh...sure, Naughty. Just keep telling yourself that. :roll:

Whatever the case, I don't really care about what Naughty "thinks" he can do, since is mental capacity is less than that of one of the first computers ever created. Maybe because his brain serves the function of a vacuum tube? Anyway, his idle threats have no effect here. His puppets will all have his flaws and will be easily IDed. I give my life to no one. Efforts, maybe. Aid, possibly. Life, not a chance. I have better things to do.

On top of all that, even if he requests my nation (and thus its password), it's against NationStates rules to take other's passwords. And my password will NEVER be given.

As the nation Nefrotos, I have a responsibility to my region to protect them. Anything that would threaten the region is to be protected from by me. Whatever threat you pose is insignificant. Even if you take Lycanthropia, it will only be because we LET you have it. You've wasted your time at the AOI. You have learned nothing. The only thing I can see going with you is that you dodge the mods rather well. With the crap you've pulled, I don't know how you've evaded them, since I would have already taken care of you if I were a mod.

The list of offenses is exstensive enough: griefing (in multiple regions and for extended periods of time), ordering users to give their passwords, improper region crashing (not giving the new password to region members booted) occurred when you took Lycanthropia the first time, and flaming on the forums...

And then that of those who worked with you: griefing, sexual harassment, flaming on the forums, improper region crashing, spamming the message board of a region...

You're a deceitful person, Naughty. You've tricked all sorts of people to help you in your lost cause. Any good region/nation only needs to look at this thread to realize that you are in the wrong. You're just going to have to get used to the idea that you're not going to have everything you want and will be defied. With all likelyhood, you encouraged the nations working with you to commit the offenses listed under them.

I won't be doing anything counter productive, so your efforts are a lost cause. Besides, I thought you crowned yourself "victorious"? Run out of people to grief? No more people to manipulate as Nautonnier2? Come back to me with nothing better to do? You're a waste of my time, Nautonnier2. I don't know what I ever saw threatening about you.
Nefrotos
11-05-2004, 04:15
It has been almost an entire month and nothing has happened. I think it is safe to say that Naughty has yet again done what he does best: nothing. Anyway, I'll be keeping watch like always just to keep him from causing trouble.
Nefrotos
11-06-2004, 14:09
Well, it seems much has happened in about a year. Naughty and Nefarian (who is in fact Naughty as well) are spending their time in "Temple of Tombs", though they are still active. Still being watched, too.

However, I think it's about time this thread be locked. It's a year old and it would serve as great historical reference for NationStates. It's not a big and well known confrontation, but it is a long one. There isn't much more to post. For the most part, the closest Naughty has for a minion is Nefarian, who is himself anyway. The AOI operate rather well without him, so I don't see them having much of an attachment to him, if any. If Naughty decides to be dumb again, I'll be sure to create another thread. There were some threads before that I had linked to the front of this, but the threads are gone, so some of the earliest evidence of this occurring has been lost. However, I do have the events recounted in my first post in this thread.

Anyway, much has been done and very little of it had to do with things important to NationStates. However, a good number of nations were lost fighting against Naughty, including a number of his own. I got four really good friends in the beginning and lost them all. Luckily, I still have The Crimson Order, who has stuck it out the entire duration of this war, The Guardian Patriot Alliance, who not only believed me when I told them that Naughty was a fake, but became my ally in the process, and the nations within The Liberty League now that can actually stand to listen to me rant or discuss rather odd topics. There are even a few other nations that help me here and there. Naughty may have won little battles, but the war was not his. He's now just a boaster, lier, and griefer. He never will get me. I haven't gotten him either, but I never really wanted him. I didn't get my apology, but he has gone quiet and is leaving my region alone. Not that doing anything to my region is possible... Bah, I'm rambling. Well, that's it for this topic. I think I'm done talking now.
Presgreif
12-08-2004, 16:52
I just wanted to make one note, clear up one misconception. I know Nautonnier, he was my brother. Nautonnier2 was not controled by the same player as Nautonnier. The original Nauty was a fourteen year old kid was distraught at losing his original nation and so went on a bit of a rampage. He hasn't played NS since Nautonnier.
So who is Nautonnier2? My best guess is that it was created by the controler of Bumplords. That is to say, I would assume this to be most likely. But that's just speculation, I really have no idea...
Padmasa
13-08-2004, 00:58
Ghads, I thought this topic died out...

Interesting theory, presgreif. More than that, I can't say.
Nefrotos
15-08-2004, 19:24
Ok, this is an interesting development. So your brother hasn't played since Nautonnier, huh? That is interesting info. The second guy was rather vicious, but I think I know who it was. I think Nefarian might have been pulling the strings on that one. Nefarian was the last of the nations that was alive after all the business with Nautonnier was finished the first time. Every time I gave Nefarian news, Nautonnier2 seemed to find out. So, I don't have any reason not to believe you, Presgreif. Nautonnier was distraught maybe, but he didn't have to take it out on his allies. I tried to get the nation I currently own now when it was owned by Nautonnier to apologize to nations Nautonnier had kicked and got myself booted as well. If you are wondering where Nefarian has gone, he has left NationStates just a few months ago. I started learning his tricks and figured out what was going on. He then admitted they were one in the same, though I think Nefarian was the original. Oh well. I apologize for the damage Nefarian might have caused to your brother's name.

I have no reason to attack you, Presgreif, but seeing as you are attacking allies IC, I'm quite curious as to why you decided to attack them. Being an ally, I have a little knowledge as to what is going on with them. I have heard of the secrets you hint on. I know the reason you attack Crimson Sparta, but I don't see why you must attack all of the Crimson Order. Could you at least explain your reasoning here? If not here, I have AIM, MSN, IRC, and Y!M if you would prefer sending messages there. My AIM ID is JediArby. I can give you the others there if AIM isn't good enough.
Nefrotos
15-08-2004, 19:43
If you do decide to contact me by IM, please wait until this evening. (OOC: I'm heading to my fiance's house to take care of her as she recovers from a tonsilectomy and a septoplasty.) Thank you.

I don't know why I bothered with OOC... I'm not a very good RPer (though trying to improve) and I'm usually just speaking from my perspective.
Presgreif
16-08-2004, 02:49
I'll try to contact you on AIM.