NationStates Jolt Archive


New power source [Info Thread]

28-08-2003, 03:06
OOC: This is classified information, meant only for OOC knowledge.

IC:

*CLASSIFIED REPORT*

A recent mining accident on Triton, after the attack on our mining facilities by the gurlanai race, "opened the door" to a large cavern, filled with air, without the need of life support. A small spring was flowing in this large room about 2 miles beneath the surface of triton. To make a long story short, we discovered the place to be a semi-natural biosphere, sustaining itself with plantlife, water, and... electricity. It took us several days of studying the plantlife and the water to discover that over half the vegetation, and all the water, was artificially created. One type of plant was especially abundant... a purple flower, growing in groups of 3, that has properties of organic fusion at the cellular level. We were unable to explain it. Even at deeper scans of the cavern, we discovered a series of pumps, and life support systems, held active by these plants' electricity, which in turn, kept all the plants alive, in a sort of natural stasis... for possibly thousands of years.

We questioned the LGMs from the principality of Lord Claw, and they say they had heard stories about it, but thought it was long gone. Upon deeper research of their history and lore, ancient LGMs (Little green men) built the structure to hide it from other races while the flowers incubated, un fortunately, volcanic and seizmic activity on triton over the years burried it, and they were unable to find the biosphere.

Historical documents are being used in conjunction with our best scientists to find out how to harness this power, trying various tests on the cellular structure.

More info to come as more develops over the years.

OOC: This plant, when properly handled/exploited, will be able to power our smaller starships with the power generating capabilities of larger ships, allowing us to have space fold drives on our smaller capital ships. The plant also works as a drug, sort of. it gives mind-enhancing powers to users, raising to about 15-20% brain power, instead of the usual 10%. Another property to be discovered in a few years, is that when used to power computer AI systems, like on fighters and mecha, the drug-using pilot will be able to basically meld with the AI, and control the mecha with his/her mind.
28-08-2003, 03:29
bump
28-08-2003, 03:40
*drools*
proto-culture (robotech not macross)
*drools*
28-08-2003, 03:45
*drools*
proto-culture (robotech not macross)
*drools*OOC: WE HAVE A WINNER! ^_^ I always loved robotech better than macross... but that and the farad system will be the only robotech-like systems i use.
28-08-2003, 06:48
bump
Imitora
28-08-2003, 06:58
I always loved robotech better than macross... but that and the farad system will be the only robotech-like systems i use.

You know what...No...I'm not even gonna get into this again.
Kajal
28-08-2003, 06:58
Ooh. If these plants are made commercially available, they could create all sorts of new opportunities for nations that are just now entering the age of spaceflight...
28-08-2003, 07:04
Imitora, you know i did this specifically to piss you off =) j/k

And Kajal, I plan to, but they need to be harvested... there is only a small supp,ly, by the time we exploit this technology, we'll have them harvested. We're trying to find a good secret place to harvest them, like on the inside of a fake nuclear power plant.

Once this stuff goes public, it's going to be a major target for raids... so i'd like to keep it secret as long as possible...
28-08-2003, 07:05
MARAUD! would like to know what happens when they are smoked...
28-08-2003, 07:09
Smoked? meh, they explode.
28-08-2003, 07:35
Smoked? meh, they explode.

Trust me, for a quick cheap high people will smoke it. Or snort it. People would smoke draino if they thought it would get them high. Oh wait, they do.
28-08-2003, 07:37
How often do people try to smoke nitro glicerine? it would have the same effect :)
28-08-2003, 07:42
My thoughts on nitroglicerine:

I love the stuff, I really do. But not solely because it makes a good explosion, though that is part of it.

Think of how many anarchists - or wanna be's rather - that have been killed because they tried to tamper with nitro? As long as it's killing the idiots, I'll put up the money for the base elements.
28-08-2003, 07:45
lol

a fuel cell of this unnamed plant... in a rifle... instant gauss rifle ^_^
Agrigento
28-08-2003, 07:46
I always loved robotech better than macross... but that and the farad system will be the only robotech-like systems i use.

You know what...No...I'm not even gonna get into this again.

I applaud your self-control
The Resi Corporation
28-08-2003, 08:30
Must... find a way to... make a... Plasma-generating... plant...
28-08-2003, 08:33
Must... find a way to... make a... Plasma-generating... plant...heh, you could try to snag a thundercloud and put it in your power generator, then harness the lightning :P

"Scotty! I need more power!" "I'm givin' her all she's got captain, but we can only obtain a warp 'Light Rain'"
28-08-2003, 15:45
We're trying to find a good secret place to harvest them, like on the inside of a fake nuclear power plant.

a couple of my "associates" may have a suitable hiding place. the clouds and storms formed at the lagrange points 4 and 5, in an oxygen-nitrogen gas torus (ooc: dig up "the smoke ring" or "integral trees") the storms, and associated debris in them, provide excellent cover along the em spectrum up to soft x-ray, and most partilce sensors.
Spacer Guilds
28-08-2003, 15:57
How often do people try to smoke nitro glicerine? it would have the same effect.

Mot many. But it's injected or used in pill form to lower blood pressure.

the clouds and storms formed at the lagrange points 4 and 5, in an oxygen-nitrogen gas torus (ooc: dig up "the smoke ring" or "integral trees") the storms, and associated debris in them, provide excellent cover along the em spectrum up to soft x-ray, and most partilce sensors.

Triton's gas torus isn't anywhere near thick enough for that. Not to mention that, even if it was, it would be constantly disrupted by the other moons and rings. Heck, even Titan's gas torus isn't thick enough. Not even 1 millibar! The Smoke Ring needed nearly the entire atmosphere of a Neptune-sized planet in an extremely high gravitational gradient, and you won't find that anywhere in Sol System.
28-08-2003, 19:56
I think deep space would work best... build a small space station with no broadcasting signals...

Or I could do what they did in robotech... put the "Garden" actually INSIDE the ship, and have the Flagship double as a garden... it wouldn't be hard, and it'd be the safest possible location.
28-08-2003, 20:26
*Supliment to Classified report*

Our scientists, still boggled by this plant, have dubbed the energy-generating process "Chlorophusion." They managed to create a makeshift reaction chamber, using key cells from this plant as a sort of long-lasting battery. The chamber was actually just a glass of a solution of distilled water and copper minerals, and a few electrodes and wires hooked into the cluster of extracted cells floating in a small pill-shaped capsule. With that pill-sized amount of chlorophusion, they were able to power a 22 gHz home computer, the 27 inch widescreen plasma monitor, and a pretty decent Bose Sound system.

All testing thereafter was successful as well. Our scientists are rainstorming hundreds of ways to use this plant.

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/capsule.gif
30-08-2003, 00:04
Suppliment:

Earlier this year, Capsule Corporation, in secret, managed to duplicate the biosphere, and did so nearly perfectly. We now plan to install 2 to 4 of these biospheres on our flagship when it completed.
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/muahaha5.jpg
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/capsule.gif
13-09-2003, 05:46
*Classified report*

Supplimental. Chlorophusion has been up for sale for several years now... but the most interesting tech has come on the microscopic scale. We have been able to use chlorophusion cells to power blood-cell-sized nanites.

The Chief said it best.
"The body is a chaotic thing... often times thinking too slow for it's own good... have you ever noticed it takes way too long to figure out how to make an anti-body, or realise that it needs to heal a wound... there are many things that, if we manage to control them, we can speed up.

What you just swallowed are Chlorophusion-powered nanites.... blood-cell sized machines that work as traffic cops in your bloodstream. It will fight off a disease, virus or bacteria, in a matter of an hour, before you even feel the symptoms... plateletts will move in and clot your blood, stopping bleeding nearly instantly... your brain will even operate slightly more efficiently... and of course, headaches, will never really be a problem. "

No sideaffects have been discovered... save for a few immediate effects due to the "shock" of the new sensations one might feel. Users are able to connect with AI almost "telepathically," gaining all the sensor data and being able to control a mecha or a fighter or an AI as if it were an extension of their own body.

Tested multiple times, it has been proven... those who are born of a parent with Chlorophusion nanites in their bloodstream, are born genetically "perfect." No defects, and in factr, some have turned up with an IQ well over 200. Jared Capsule's 3-year old son is currently at a High-School reading level. He learns flawlessly.

However, the nanites can not replicate themselves, and each "pill" (one per user for a lifetime) costs about 100,000 credits.

We've begun to open relations with Phalanix, a strong ally, and have begun testing it on one of their elites. Seems to be working great.

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/capsule.gif
Phalanix
13-09-2003, 05:48
Except she thought she was stoned. She could see funny colors
13-09-2003, 05:51
Except she thought she was stoned. She could see funny colorsthus "Except for the immediate shock" ;)
13-09-2003, 05:53
well if your biosphere was only semi-natural, what was the unnatural part? Actually dont answer that, because you'll just fill the next post up with technical jargon that doesnt really make much sense. and what's more, its probably been ripped off from some other fiction you're read. If this is so, then you really aren't an author of discourse now are you?
Stringing scientific words together doesnt make you a scientist, and most of the time, it doesnt even make sense. :roll:
13-09-2003, 06:01
oohhh and by the way, there is no real mind fusion between man and machine. Apart from being mechanically fixed, which is entirely different to fusion.
Furthermore, machines have already been created which can "interprit" the intentions of the human mind (with specific limits of course!), so why is a miracle plant then necessary?

Does this mean that the small plant has magical powers, which when touching the person and the machine, fuse with one another? Because I do not see how you can fuse inorganic and organic atoms without creating an entirely new isotope/atom.

And if this plant is so great, and the answer to life's problems, then why, when it can generate such magnificent power (refer first post: electricity in the cavern), did not the power cause some sort of magnetic poisoning, electric shock, or kill the other organisms around it? Let me guess, they were resistant to it?
13-09-2003, 06:08
OOC: First question: The unnatural part of the biosphere, was that it had pumps and stuff operating the water and regulating temperatures.

and this "fusion" between man and machine,. isn't fusion, it's a data link. Your brain takes electronic impulses and converts them into information you can udnerstand... your eyes, your ears, your nerves, your smell and taste... all operate on electrical impulses to the brain. with these guys hanging around your blood and generating electrical impulses, when you come into contact with a man AI of similar technology, contacts built into the interface can allow you to conduct the electrical impulses from the computer, into your body, into the nanites, going to the brain, sending the information toy our brain.

yes, i did think this out, no it's probably not very possible, but hey, it's sci fi, and the concept works.
13-09-2003, 06:08
oh yeah, and another thing....how can something the size of a blood-cell work on something (DNA) that is 1/100th of its size? It may come with an array of tools, but these nano-tech's would need to be introduced with massive doses of Cyclospin. so much so, infact, that the user would be perminantly bed-ridden. Editing DNA to make one perfect. Perfection is based on people's prejudice. In other words, what is 'genetically-flawless' to one person, will not be the same for another. A general consensus does not highten the validity of 'perfection.' And if these people were to be perfect in every way, then there would be no need for the nano-tech's to be there. And then the companies which manufacture them will go bankrupt and I doubt they want this to happen. Furthermore, these peopl may also live forever, which is quite selfish because there would eventually be no more room for anyone else. and genetic perfection means squat to people in Africa, because perfection doesnt work when theres no rain. How about you guys get your magical plant and use it to bring rain to the places that need it.

*Classified report*

Supplimental. Chlorophusion has been up for sale for several years now... but the most interesting tech has come on the microscopic scale. We have been able to use chlorophusion cells to power blood-cell-sized nanites.

The Chief said it best.
"The body is a chaotic thing... often times thinking too slow for it's own good... have you ever noticed it takes way too long to figure out how to make an anti-body, or realise that it needs to heal a wound... there are many things that, if we manage to control them, we can speed up.

What you just swallowed are Chlorophusion-powered nanites.... blood-cell sized machines that work as traffic cops in your bloodstream. It will fight off a disease, virus or bacteria, in a matter of an hour, before you even feel the symptoms... plateletts will move in and clot your blood, stopping bleeding nearly instantly... your brain will even operate slightly more efficiently... and of course, headaches, will never really be a problem. "

No sideaffects have been discovered... save for a few immediate effects due to the "shock" of the new sensations one might feel. Users are able to connect with AI almost "telepathically," gaining all the sensor data and being able to control a mecha or a fighter or an AI as if it were an extension of their own body.

Tested multiple times, it has been proven... those who are born of a parent with Chlorophusion nanites in their bloodstream, are born genetically "perfect." No defects, and in factr, some have turned up with an IQ well over 200. Jared Capsule's 3-year old son is currently at a High-School reading level. He learns flawlessly.

In cloning, these nanites have been used to "edit" a person's DNA. This was used on a volunteer subject, miriya Capsule, who allowed herself to be 'reborn." Rebirth is a process where the body is perfected. A clone is created out of material from the old body, only this time, perfectly, and customizable. needless to say, she is now a model, as well as our ace pilot.

However, the nanites can not replicate themselves, and each "pill" (one per user for a lifetime) costs about 100,000 credits.

We've begun to open relations with Phalanix, a strong ally, and have begun testing it on one of their elites. Seems to be working great.

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/capsule.gif
13-09-2003, 06:11
OOC: Oh and why it doesn't have poisonous effects, because it is contained... it's a property of the cells that the energy is relatively contained within the cell walls, and can only be tapped when "turned on" by technology.

OK, so it is a littkle "magical." but hey, a lot of things in life are. (especially in this game ;) )
13-09-2003, 06:13
OOC: OK, brain brought up a good point... so in reaction, anything I mentioned about altering genetics, strike that... but brain impulses are still regulated, and all the other stuff I said. (hey, I'm learning OOC too ;) )
07-11-2003, 00:59
How Much?

I want a large sample of the stuff and Nanite methods for replicating it. I want all of your data and research on power system integration and I need your lead scientist - and I need that beautiful Dr. Jennifer Capsule for a month - for articulation and training purposes only of course.

Your dropships might also double as transports and defense platforms - how long would it take you to assemble a demonstrative taskforce for Neoluna.
07-11-2003, 01:00
How Much?

I want a large sample of the stuff and Nanite methods for replicating it. I want all of your data and research on power system integration and I need your lead scientist - and I need that beautiful Dr. Jennifer Capsule for a month - for articulation and training purposes only of course.

Your dropships might also double as transports and defense platforms - how long would it take you to assemble a demonstrative taskforce for Neoluna.
07-11-2003, 01:24
We will trade it for a technology of equal value.

And as for replicating it, it can not be replicated... one of its unique qualities, and thus we kinda have a monopoly on the stuff for holding the ability to grow it from home. If you wish to have this technology freely, you must trade it for something of equal technological value. What do you have?
07-11-2003, 01:29
Oh, and as for the MC Dropships, yes, you may see a brief demonstration, but only if you buy at least one of them :)