NationStates Jolt Archive

A space opened to encourage states in the Mediterranean region to propose policy areas of mutual interest. We can open discussions on environment and immigration and other areas of common interest to the region. After an appropriate time of discussion a vote shall be taken.

I agree with my fellow mediterranean countries with the environmental issue at hand. However, our Republic suggests that in order to ensure that our future generations will benefit from a healthier environment, a number of laws that cover a basic level of environment protection should be adopted by all nations in the mediterranean regions. Other laws that are more stringent and wide-ranging can be adhered to according to the specifities of each country/region.

Our republic would also like to raise another issue with regards to the great influx of illegal immigrants onto our shores.In order to promote further social equality and enhance our productive labour base, illegal immigrants can be integrated into our labour market and offered training programmes that could well benefit our employers and the nation as a whole. Most of the mediterranean countries will be facing a critical demographic issue in the next decades which will also degrade the sustainability of our pension systems. The employability of illegal immigrants (which most of them are of employable age) could enhance the working age population throughout the years and consequently raise the ratio of labourers (whose contributions serve to finance the current pension outlays) to pensioners(part of the dependable population).

The Most Serene Maritime Republic of Melita and Gaulos looks forward to the promotion of programmes of improvement for the Mediterranean Region. Like minded Maritime States are urged to join this region and develop the series of policies based on a common set of values. The MSMR also stresses the importance that the economic and social networking that is necessary, be created with respect to the current balances and without causing unnecessary stress on the participants' infrastructure.

We aim to build a society and region of Republican Democracies, united in their aim of achieving a better and prosperous living.

The most important area to start with as legislation for the mediterranean region, is the are of Environment. Environmental protection, and co-operation between the different nation states is absolutely vital, or elsethere will be a serious reduction of the standard of living in all nation states and not just one state.

A common interest is thus recognized, and so co-operation is essential if the different programmes of envrionment protection within different nation states are truly effective.

The first environmental issue I would like to propose is that of sewage treatment. Untreated sewage dumped directely in our beautiful mediterranean sea is one of the main causes of sea pollution, that the med is suffering with. Thus legislation should be made that will make it illegal for untreated sewage to be dumped in the sea.

All sewage should be treated, and then either be reused or else dumped.
The Republic of Haxeja
Environment minister

The Most Serene Maritime Republic agrees with the Republic of Haxeja and proposes the following course of action:

1. That a Charter on the Treatment of Sewage be drawn up and adhered to by members of the Mediterranean Region (by way of formal declaration in an apposite forum).

2. That once at least two-thirds of the members of the Mediterranean region adhere to the Charter it is forwarded as a motion to the UN.

The MSMR of Melita and Gaulos nominates the Republic of Haxeja for the drawing up of an apposite motion and invites the UN Delegate to take cognisance of all future actions.

We are duly honored of being nominated by the MSMR melita and gaulos to draw up the resoultion for sewage treatment.

Our Environment Ministry has already started working on drawing up proposals and have also started to concentrate soley on this project leaving piffling details from work for later :wink:

The Confederacy of JohnsonHinchcliffia gives all support to the environmental initiative being worked on by its fellow Mediterranean Nations.

We would like to propose that the 'sewage' wording be widened to include industrial effluent - and that we look for a ban on dumping sewage and effluent into rivers -as well as our beloved sea.

The People's Republic of Hal-Muxi aggrees with fellow Mediterranean countries on the need to address particular environmental problems. Additionally we share the proposal by the MSMR of Melita and Gaulos to nominate the Republic of Haxeja as a co-ordinator and we offer to lobby with other nations at UN level to get this proposal to voting. We also take note of JohnsonHinchcliffia's point and we propose a Charter on Marine Pollution in order to cater for the dumping of industrial pollution in rivers as well.

With the endorsement given, This is the initial draft for the proposal,


Proposal for making it illegal of polluting and dumping of polluting substances in any hydrological reserve (eg, rivers, lakes, sea, etc).

A simple brainstorming session, will make anyone realise that the subject of sea pollution is vast, pollution of the sea comes from many sources, as the problem is that the sea, being as vast as it is, has been seen as a huge dumping ground by humanity since the begining of history.

Nowadays the amount of dumping is untenable and unacceptable. Sources of pollution are from the dumping of untreated sewage, industrial waste, oil tankers that if they do not break up, causing huge environmental catastrophies, are being cleaned out and what sludge is in the tanks is dumped in the sea. The sea is also being polluted by pesticide overflow from fields, and damaged by the dumping of heated water by powerstations. The list is endless, the fact of the matter is, the sea is a vital economic highway of the world, which is put to strenous use by everyone, so pollution is inevitable, however it can be limited by removing the worst sources. Obviously this legislation can not encompase all the issues dealing with all the marine pollution, so it will only concentrate on Sewage and industrial dumping.

All nation states should therefore ban completely all dumping of untreated sewage, this has to be mandatory to all nation states. It should be mandatory because, in the long run this will not only cost nothing but actually save money for everyone concerned, thus I should not expect any complaints on this issue. If you want explanations why send me a telegram and I will give a general explanation, as it is not appropriate on this posting.(its already long enough as it is)

Industrial waste is more complicated, as it is always difficult to balance between economic and environmental needs. However a ban on chemical industries to prevent the dumping of chemical waste, such as acids, detergents etc is absolutely necessary, simply for the fact that people can be severly injured or get illnesses from the kind of chemicals being dumped.

This is the initial explanation and introduction of what I had in mind I will be streamlining it further once discussion starts.

The Working Committee on Proposed Legislation of the Senate of the Most Serene Maritime Republic requests members of the Mediterranean Region to consider the following wording as a Draft for our Charter:

In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All nation states are hereby prohibited from:
dumping untreated sewage,
dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical waste, such as acids, detergents and related materials,

in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the world.

Excellent wording. May we suggest that the word 'waste' is changed to material. This would then cover the situation where a nation could claim that the material they have dumped is not 'waste' but 'surplus'.

Also - what about the dumping of dead vegetable and animal material?

Excellent wording. May we suggest that the word 'waste' is changed to material. This would then cover the situation where a nation could claim that the material they have dumped is not 'waste' but 'surplus'.

Also - what about the dumping of dead vegetable and animal material?

TELEGRAM
Agree with amendment of wording STOP Are the other materials you refer to biodegradable?

(sorry in a hurry)

Excellent wording. May we suggest that the word 'waste' is changed to material. This would then cover the situation where a nation could claim that the material they have dumped is not 'waste' but 'surplus'.

Also - what about the dumping of dead vegetable and animal material?

TELEGRAM
Agree with amendment of wording STOP Are the other materials you refer to biodegradable?

(sorry in a hurry)

TELEGRAM
Agree with amendment of wording STOP Are the other materials you refer to biodegradable?



Strictly speaking, yes. However our scientists strongly believe that the biodegradation alters the ecological balance of the sea. A large volume of material would have a significant effect on this balance.....

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
2003/7/FA

The People's Republic of Hal-Muxi is encouraged by the discussion that has taken place over the past few weeks over the topic of marine pollution. This bodes well for future collaboration over other policy areas. We invite Melita and Gaulos to post a revised version of the document and we propose to take a vote on the Charter. Subsequently we will take this issue to UN and Hal-Muxi intends to lobby hard other delegates in order to further our proposal.

We invite fellow Mediterranean states to post suggestions relevant to the topic so that we can conclude the issue.

Regards
Director for UN Affairs
The People's Republic of Hal-Muxi

The Working Committee on Proposed Legislation of the Senate of the Most Serene Maritime Republic requests members of the Mediterranean Region to consider the following revised wording as a Draft for our Charter:

In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All nation states are hereby prohibited from:
dumping untreated sewage,
dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical material, such as acids, detergents and related materials,

in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the world.

erm..... how about
The Working Committee on Proposed Legislation of the Senate of the Most Serene Maritime Republic requests members of the Mediterranean Region to consider the following revised wording as a Draft for our Charter:

In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All nation states are hereby prohibited from dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical and biological materials in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the world.

All nation states are hereby prohibited from:
dumping untreated sewage,
dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical material, such as acids, detergents and related materials,

in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the world.

We suggest that the wording of the Charter should refer only to 'Mediterranean' rather than 'the World'. We could revert the subject to the world when we submit this issue to the United Nations.

We suggest that the wording of the Charter should refer only to 'Mediterranean' rather than 'the World'. We could revert the subject to the world when we submit this issue to the United Nations.

if that's the case, how about


In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All Mediterranean states agree to refrain from dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical and biological materials in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the region.

I like it

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen:
I only recently discovered this forum and decided to come and greet. And to give my opinion on inmigration: I think it should be legalized, not around a fixed number, but around the needs of each country. It's, after all, more people to work = more people to pay taxes. Are your fears projected towards cultural dillution? Improve your cultural policies and educational programs! :)
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante
President of the Republic of Whatif

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen:


In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All Mediterranean states agree to refrain from dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical and biological materials in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the region.

I like this wording.
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante
President of the Republic of Whatif

I am in complete agreement with regards to the handling of the influx of illegal immigrants. Given that many of us rely on our Chateaux and Relais trade I find these foreign workers to add to the ambiance. Their accents alone give our discerning guests a feeling of charm and upscale refinement. I must say however, we must address enthusiasts to consider "training" these employees on the basics of Proper Hygiene. I suggest the distribution of the highly acclaimed publication, "Royal Champagne" guide to serving with Clean Zest and Guest! It is the benchmark on providing the Pampered Properly! We must also consider how we want to address citizenship within our realm. Perhaps this could be granted as a Mediterranean Allegiance. Citizenship and Employee taxation of the Mediterranean Illegal-Immigrants. Then we could offer Island exchanges as the Relais Gourmands properties do. Please post your thoughts!! :wink:

;) Marda
Hygiene? Respect? Social behaviour? Yes. Ask refugees and inmigrants what you would ask any other of your citizens. But then, so, give them the same education opportunities and salary ranges you would give to any other of your citizens.
At your feet, milady,
KalEl el Vigilante

Yes, KalEl el Vigilante. What do you think of two hundred silver staters a year and a complete education (Greek Philosophy included)?

Regards,
HRH
Queen Marda

I propose a vote on the latest draft of the Marine Pollution Charter

We invite the co-ordinating team to produce a finalised version of the Charter on Marine Pollution by Friday so that a poll can be held over the issue during the coming week

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen:
I just posted this at the regional Headquarters, but I feel like sharing it here, too. Sorry if this bothers you with double-posting.

I'd like to open a thread about the current UN proposal, the No Rights one. I was scared to bits when I first read it. You start and it seems like "hey, this is a slightly ironic yet devoted proposal". But soon I saw it was more in the lines of a "hey, this looks like something Hitler would cheer about".
Here:

>ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big
>screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you
>if you can legally acquire them, but no one is
>guaranteeing anything.

It almost convinced me. But although no one must be granted "money" or richness... everybody must be guaranteed the means to survive. Like education, job opportunities and the like.

>ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from >harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be >more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make >you and all of your relatives wealthy.

...no, but I have the right to be informed of non-evident harms derived from a product and the manufacturer must answer for them.

>ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and
>housing.

Not as a whole. But you do if you are unable to get them by your own. Per example if you have some kind of mental or physical illness that keeps you from keeping you up. Yes, that is the duty of the state. That is a state: the one that takes charge of the needs of ALL its citizens.

>ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care.

Enough is enough! This must be a primordial right in every country! Basic free health must be mandatory. We can debate on plastic surgery: there are cases when even that should be free. But "Health" is one of the duties of the states.

>ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm >other people.

That is ok, but it follows:

> If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone,
> don’t be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry
> in the electric chair.

Didn't we agree that NOBODY has right to harm another person?

So, even when some of the articles in this proposal seem full of wisdom... I ask: please, vote NO to the NO RIGHTS BILL.
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante
President of the Republic of Whatif

Altho it seems bad, I thought it was hilarious, and very interesting, but they can't be serious about all that, it just seems like a rant/rave about "real life" I'm still weirded out that it made it to the UN voting stage. wow.

The Most Serene Maritime Republic Agrees with the final draft and has decided to submit it as follows for final review:

In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All Mediterranean states agree to refrain from dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical and biological materials in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the region. [/quote][/quote]

In the interests of a cleaner maritime environment and for safeguarding the rights of present and future generations;

All Mediterranean states agree to refrain from dumping industrial and non-industrial chemical and biological materials in the seas, waters, maritime areas, rivers and affluences and naturally occuring lakes of the region.


sounds good to me. :D

The Most Serene Republic of Endless Summer approves of & endorses this final version of the Charter on Marine Pollution. Many thanks to all who contributed to this undertaking. 8)

Absolutely, cleaner waters, control on dumping and preserving our maritime and all aspects of our environment for ALL generations especially the future is a must! Thank you for spending the time to compose this important Charter.

HRH
Queen Marda

P.S. You are all invited to our cozy yet growing Island in November for our Annual Wine Tasting Extravaganza. Although we will be serving our gourmand menu we invite you to bring a taste of your country. The entertainment is going to be outstanding!

The Mediterranean is a beautiful region where nations care about the environment. JohnsonHinchcliffia’s citizens are frequent travellers abroad and there is great interest in television programmes about travel and the environment. For some time now, there has been a furore in the press about Mediterranean nations who care ‘a little less’ about their own environment. The issue was recently the subject of a debate by JohnsonHinchcliffia’s government.

It has been decided that JohnsonHincliffia will, in the near future, withdraw its UN endorsement from any Mediterranean nation that has ‘widespread deforestation’ or ‘ a barren inhospitable landscape’.

We urge those nations to address their problems now.

D Pend
Environmental Secretary.

Whatever happened with our poll? 8)

It is here, Endless Summer. Not a lot of votes, mind you.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76780

Thank you JohnsonHinchcliffia! I already voted & was referring to our outcome. However, I see that very few members of our region have participated!

I was figguring that if interested, we could start a contact list for AIM,or email, just so we can hang out OOC of Nation States, or just in case we just wanna contact you for stuff ;-)

Name email AIM
Federation of Tyraelus blackangel@herzeleid.net Shizuo1

I, leader of the newly formed nation of The Federation of the Spartan States now wishes to recognize the environmental issues in my nation. My land is barren and inhospitable, and I wish to propose an idea. I propose that reforestation be instituted within the Mediterranean to bring back the trees we have taken from the land. This will benefit our industries and native flora and fauna.

*Now exiting diplomatic mode: 8) Hello, everyone. I've only been here a day, and I must say, this game is great! :D I hope my post is relevant to the environmental issues at hand. :D

I, leader of the newly formed nation of The Federation of the Spartan States now wishes to recognize the environmental issues in my nation. My land is barren and inhospitable, and I wish to propose an idea. I propose that reforestation be instituted within the Mediterranean to bring back the trees we have taken from the land. This will benefit our industries and native flora and fauna.

JohnsonHinchcliffia is sending forestry and environmental experts to assist you. We do urge you to allow no mining in any of your forest regions.

Thank you, JohnsonHinchcliffia, for sending these environmental experts to me. I must repay you. Name troubles within your nation and I shall send workers or other servicemen to repair them! :D Unless the only trouble is environmental problems...I'm using your environmental developers currently! :twisted:

I also have another proposal, which may not have any relevance to environmental ideals, but concerns free technological trade. How are we as Mediterraneans to advance together through history when we horde all of our research in our secret labs. I propose a vote to end on November 3, 2003. Should this act be instituted as Mediterranean law, all technological advances would be shared amongt al Mediterranean nations. Who wishes for this act to be passed, and who wishes to hoarde all of their research in their undergroung cave/labs?

(I repost this here as it's going to disappear on the Regional HQs)

About the world heritage list: we have a bit of a trouble with the present resolution at UN. What do you think? The idea seems a noble one, but the wording is poor, to the point that every listed place would be forbidden to mine, etc. I think there should be at least some quorum about places in countries others than your own or that the natural importance should be demonstrated, not only "supposed". If not, an enemy nation could say all your uranium, coal, steel and oil deposits are found in environmentally sensible paradises and the UN would ban you access to them (this way only the most secretive nations would be able to deal with their industrial processes).
On the other hand, the effects of the resolution will only be taken by the Woodchipping industry, and everything else is wording that will not be implemented in our nations... What do you think? By the moment i've voted FOR... but I can change it after reading your opinions...
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante
President of the Republic of Whatif

I agree with your concerns, Whatif.

The Environment is a #1 concern in our region and today's UN report highlights that issue. We record the report here for discussion over the following days.

Today's United Nations Report
The Most Beautiful Environments in Mediterranean
UN researchers spent many arduous weeks lying on beaches and trekking through rainforests to compile this definitive list of the most attractive and best cared for environments.

Rankings as follows: (No disrespect is meant by not including nations' full titles)

1 JohnsonHinchcliffia
2 Tyraelus
3 Boccanegra
4 Isilme
5 Lykia
6 Juliopolis
7 Let There Be Rock
8 Gaudos
9 Thetys
10 Attard Malta
11 Figs
12 Ciro
13 Ace-Venturia
14 Whatif
15 Peloponnesus
16 Ratusso
17 Smiles
18 Cesna
19 Haxeja
20 Bicommunal Cyprus
21 Satimon
22 Marielle
23 Greece & Crete
24 KeLeigh
25 Catelin
26 Koullitsa
27 Jack Sparrow
28 Left Handed People
29 Tau Combine
30 Chemchem
31 Coskun
32 TVRfreak
33 Mutant
34 Hal-Muxi
35 Hadera
36 MFEA
37 Vuja De
38 Jackassland
39 Jackassland Annex

JohnsonHinchcliffia's environmental experts have deep concerns over the environments of nations ranked 32 to 39. We appeal to those nations to make all possible efforts to improve their environment. We ask all other Mediterranean nations to lobby those lower ranked nations.

The Fabulous Lands of JohnsonHinchcliffia are please to announce the completion of phase 1 of the building of its new diplomatic suburb.

Situated 14 kilometres from the centre of JohnsonHinchcliffia’s capital city FirenzeAvignon on the banks of the RhoneArno river, New Pienza is a large, beautiful complex of palazzos authentically copied from the best Renaissance buildings in FirenzeAvignon. These buildings surround a network of cool, leafy piazzas.

Unusually in JohnsonHinchcliffia, New Pienza does not have a compound name. Also in a country renowned for its freedoms, the suburb has restricted access. It is served by two stations on the public underground railway network, but a separate diplomats-only high speed underground line has also been built to connect New Pienza with the centre of FirenzeAvignon and FirenzeAvignon airport.

JohnsonHinchcliffia has moved its own Foreign Affairs ministry out to New Pienza to make it highly accessible. There are sufficient palazzos for the embassies of all the Mediterranean region nations and JohnsonHinchcliffia offers the buildings rent-free to its neighbours. There are several spare buildings for other non-Mediterranean nations and also some designed to be used on a part-time, hot-embassy basis. JohnsonHinchcliffia has also built a massive assembly chamber complex, which could be used for regional meetings.

New Pienza has a full infrastructure of hotels and restaurants and other support / leisure buildings within the high-security area. A large festival has been arranged in two weeks time to inaugurate New Pienza and it is hoped that many Mediterranean nations will move into their allotted buildings in time for the celebrations.

The Fabulous Lands of JohnsonHinchcliffia are please to announce the completion of phase 1 of the building of its new diplomatic suburb.

Situated 14 kilometres from the centre of JohnsonHinchcliffia’s capital city FirenzeAvignon on the banks of the RhoneArno river, New Pienza is a large, beautiful complex of palazzos authentically copied from the best Renaissance buildings in FirenzeAvignon. These buildings surround a network of cool, leafy piazzas.

Unusually in JohnsonHinchcliffia, New Pienza does not have a compound name. Also in a country renowned for its freedoms, the suburb has restricted access. It is served by two stations on the public underground railway network, but a separate diplomats-only high speed underground line has also been built to connect New Pienza with the centre of FirenzeAvignon and FirenzeAvignon airport.

JohnsonHinchcliffia has moved its own Foreign Affairs ministry out to New Pienza to make it highly accessible. There are sufficient palazzos for the embassies of all the Mediterranean region nations and JohnsonHinchcliffia offers the buildings rent-free to its neighbours. There are several spare buildings for other non-Mediterranean nations and also some designed to be used on a part-time, hot-embassy basis. JohnsonHinchcliffia has also built a massive assembly chamber complex, which could be used for regional meetings.

New Pienza has a full infrastructure of hotels and restaurants and other support / leisure buildings within the high-security area. A large festival has been arranged in two weeks time to inaugurate New Pienza and it is hoped that many Mediterranean nations will move into their allotted buildings in time for the celebrations.

Thracia, the founder nation of The Balkans, would like to establish an embassy in the New Pienza suburb.

This embassy could be the a good beginning of better and closer relations not just between JohnsonHinchcliffia and Thracia, but also between the regions of Mediterranean and The Balkans.

Antonis Ladas, Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Thracia, the founder nation of The Balkans, would like to establish an embassy in the New Pienza suburb.

This embassy could be the a good beginning of better and closer relations not just between JohnsonHinchcliffia and Thracia, but also between the regions of Mediterranean and The Balkans.

Antonis Ladas, Minister of Foreign Affairs.

You are most welcome, Thracia. Codes & Passwords have been sent to you by normal channels. These will enable you to fly into the diplomatic sector of FirenzeAvignon airport. We look forward to meeting your delegation and a close relationship with the Balkans region. Perhaps we can discuss arrangements to send our ambassador to Thracia.

Thracia would welcome an ambassador from JohnsonHinchcliffia. There are nice buildings in Alexandroupolis, the capital of our executive branch of the government.

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We would also like to say that we have sent JohnsonHinchcliffia a telegram in which we proposed an inter-regional football/soccer tournament.

You see, Annoyastan, a nation of our region, has developed a method through which nations in this NationStates game can compete with each other like in a soceer game.

We think it would be very interesting for us to play against nations from Mediterranean.

The Environment is a #1 concern in our region and the UN have repeated the survey carried out a week or so ago, (see our previous posting)

Today's United Nations Report
The Most Beautiful Environments in Mediterranean
UN researchers spent many arduous weeks lying on beaches and trekking through rainforests to compile this definitive list of the most attractive and best cared for environments.

Rankings as follows: (No disrespect is meant by not including nations' full titles)

1 JohnsonHinchcliffia
2 Tyraelus
3 Boccanegra
4 Isilme
5 Lykia
6 Juliopolis
7 Let There Be Rock
8 Thetys
9 Gaudos
10 Figs
11 Ciro
12 Ace-Venturia
13 Ratusso
14 Whatif
15 Peloponnesus
16 Cesna
17 Haxeja
18 Bicommunal Cyprus
19 KeLeigh
20 Marielle
21 Satimon
22 Greece & Crete
23 Catelin
24 Koullitsa
25 Ustasha
26 Jack Sparrow
27 Left Handed People
28 Coskun
29 Tau Combine
30 Chemchem
31 Mutant
32 Caput Mundi
33 Hal-Muxi
34 Hadera
35 MFEA
36 Vuja De
37 Jackassland
38 Jackassland Annex

Congratulations to those Nations that have improved their rankings. JohnsonHinchcliffia's environmental experts have deep concerns over the environments of nations ranked 33 to 39. We appeal to those nations to make all possible efforts to improve their environment. We ask all other Mediterranean nations to lobby those lower ranked nations.

Greece and Crete seem to always rate in the middle of everything on our Regional UN Rankings...

I don't know if that's a good thing, or a bad thing...

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving to anyone who lives in the USA!

Mediterranean region now has its own forum (kindly created by Tripolis). All issues in this thread are now continued there.

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