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A couple months ago, a rather overzealous mid-level bureaucrat in our Prefecture of Defense, who has since been terminated from their position, authorized a M€50 million purchase of the plans for the Executor-class Super Star Destroyer, from The Imperial Navy. We were, as you might imagine, somewhat at a loss as to what to do with plans that called for vast quantities of neutronium - a material nearly impossible to fabricate, let alone work with - and the installation of myriad weapons systems that would each require fifty people to operate, all with more than adequate power, but a truly miserable engagement range. The plans were shelved.

This was until someone in the Prefecture of Science stumbled across the file and had a truly intriguing idea. As a warship, our analysts found the SSD had comparatively little potential. Yet, the vast spaceframe of such a vessel had potential as something else - a long range explorer-command vessel. Such a ship would serve almost as a mobile starbase, designed to tesseract-jump into a sector and simultaneously coordinate and command exploration of several star systems at once. She would carry multiple research cruisers comparable to the Scolopendran Beagle-class, as well as be able to coordinate resourcing operations in surveyed systems. She would be adequately but not overly armed and armored, carry every conceivable sort of sensor and comm array, and be capable of entering a particularly interesting system herself in order to take a closer look. She would carry thousands of all forms of probes, in order to support the research operations. The ship would carry sufficient supplies and amenities to keep her crew happy, comfortable, and fed for months or even years, and theoretically might even make first contact with an extraterrestrial species.

The modifications were made to the design, stripping out much of the weapons systems - and all of the ridiculously pie-in-the-sky neutronium armor - in favor of Menelmacari equivalents, more compact and lighter. There are far fewer weapons on the new vessel than on the original design, and the vessel would be comparable in combat to a pair of existing Fëanor-class dreadnoughts - more than adequate to defend herself, though combat is not her purpose. Additional automation has been devised to reduce the SSD's outlandish manpower requirements to under five thousand. The existing hyperdrive and sublight drives have been removed in favor of Menelmacari gravitic cores and tesseract-jump engines. Additional launch and support bays have been installed, and the vessel's interior spaces have been brought up to the famously luxurious Menelmacari standards. The vessel is projected to require [three weeks real time] for construction at the Orbital Drive Yards shared with Kecha.

The plan was signed 'approved' by the Elentári Herself. Menelmacar's first gravship, launched a millennium ago, was christened the Randir, or "Pilgrim" in the common tongue, and like this new vessel, served as an explorer, which opened Menelmacar's doors to the world. In light of this tradition, the new ECV will be christened Elrandir, or "Star Pilgrim" in the common tongue, in hopes she will open Menelmacar's doors to the galaxy.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
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16-km-hull-sized bump.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
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is it really neccesary to make them that big?


but either way if you need to purchase the resources I can sell them to you.

16km :shock:

The largest I have is 5.6 miles (Exodus) and that's a colonization ship.

Heh... right. For size, complain to The Imperial Navy. For some reason they wanted a capital ship almost as wide as the state of Delaware.

And... do you realize you're trying to sell resources to Menel-ma-f***ing-car? They have a resource base larger than Melkor's ego.

Still, thanks for trying to help.

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Foot-to-Ass (formerly Defense) Section
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

Cute ship but it would be toast if it ran into a hostile Alien race and they are out there plus theres apearently going to be a Galaxic invasion by some anceint evil alien race soon that a bunch of space nations are about to fight and it could get taken out by any decent Star Warship. Of course they would have to be someone that not afraid of Menelmacar.

(OOC: reiterates joys of the multiverse and... damn... wrong country)

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The Elrandir is capable of putting up a stout defense long enough for warships to arrive. At any rate, the vessel herself will spend most of her time sitting in deep space, centered between the systems being explored by the ships she supports. She's a big ship, but would be hard to locate in the interstellar void by a hostile force, and it's more likely her daughter vessels would encounter enemy ships first, giving the Elrandir time and warning to prepare and call for help.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
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Of course and the most active pirates out there, the Zoir have several problems to deal with. One of their ruling Warlords got a defeat handed to them recently by 8 Star Destroyers. Their High Warlord is bent on on bringing down all the other warlords and bringing law and order back to Zoir and theres some anceint enemy of theirs that is returning.

An excellent use for a truly pointless Warship design. You have taken a symbol of fear and transformed into a symbol of peace and exploration, we salute this move. We would wish only to be informed of what it discover's and wish you the very best of success.

Farseer Council Somewhere in the web.

Indeed you will not have to worry about any Zoir Warlord with their Fleets, They are going to be Busy dealing with me. I will bring Law and order back to Zoir if I have to wade Waist deep in blood. I will retore the Zoir empire and bring an end to this Period of Waring states and their warlords. Have a safe exploration.

High Warlord Gerx

Thanks, Gerx. :)

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
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You are weclome. I better start calling my self Emperor if I am going to restore the anceint empire. *Goes off to start his campian to restore the empire and wipe up all the warlords or at least as many as he can.*

Emperor Gerx

{Public Diplomatic Transmission}
x Emperor Gregor Vetinari (Cetagandan Empire)
o Menelmacar

An excellent idea. The concept seems very similar to our recently deployed General Systems Vessel, Finity's End. Considerably smaller, of course, but we spent nearly thirty years building the damned thing.

Not bad, no, though I question the choice of shape. Our own equivalent is a full space station, whose more spheroid shape has proven more efficient for interstellar jumps. On the other hand, Menelmacar's method of long-distance travel is notably different from ours; perhaps that makes a difference? In either case, I would be interested in comparing notes, once the ship is built.

Charlton Black
Scientific Research Council

Excellent, we send our congratulations to the Eternal Noldorin Empire and are pleased to see that they have found a way to make a more practical and usable version of the Excecutor class Command Ship designs.

We wish Menelmacar the best of luck with their new vessel.

(OOC: Who sprung Sirithil?)

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Princeps Senatus Karl Kopinski
'Benevolent' Quasi-Dictator of the C'tan Confederacy, Excecutive of all states, colonies, holdings, and protectorates therein.

(OOC: The Mornahossë did. There will be a post on it as soon as I can clean up the IRC log of the rescue.)

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
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OOC: Ah excellent. I shall wait for that before commenting...

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Princeps Senatus Karl Kopinski
'Benevolent' Quasi-Dictator of the C'tan Confederacy, Excecutive of all states, colonies, holdings, and protectorates therein.

Mmm... interstellar void... must resist.. not walking.. the spacegodmodders.. path.

"There is a difference between wlaking the path and knowing the path."

Aaaarggh...

If you want, we could just build you one of our Chaos-class Capitol ships, except without all the weapons and secret Foe Hammer technology. It's 18km long, costs around $4 trillion each and is very durable.

Or, if you don't want a Chaos, we could Custom-make a vessel for you, seeing as how Foe Hammer Shipyards is one of the best Shipyard operators in the Galaxy(s)

If you need any additional construction work done, we as a fellow WTE member would be happy to authorize the use of a construction yard in our own shipyard.

We to as fellow WTE members wish to assist. This is a very comendible thing you are doing. We hope that you will have great succes on your exploration of space. All of our space stations are open to you and your people.
I'd also wish to discuss the possibillity of us sending perhaps a small group of scientists on your journey. They are highly intelligent, work hard, and live to discover new things.

OOC: Wow, leave it to Menel to find a way to turn a spacewanking ship into something useful.

Thanks, Bers. :mrgreen:

:) Intergalactic bump, in case anyone has any further comments.

~Siri

A big honkin' ship
Sent to chart the galaxy
For Menelmacar.

Haiku-flavored bump.

Is it Haiku day or something Siri? Or are you just trying to bump in an originall fashion ;)

Is it Haiku day or something Siri? Or are you just trying to bump in an originall fashion ;)

Nah it seems frikkin' Haiku week in here.

btw long time no see diablo.

Dang, and we thought that an 8-kilometer Trojan was big!

You might as well just scrap the idea of a ship and build a Macrolife mobile space station.

It practically is a mobile station. And better-looking, too. Besides, we were trying to make a good idea out of a bad investment, and we would have built something like this sooner or later. The Executor chassis simply lends itself well to the mission profile.

~Siri

OOC:Menelmacar it may get attacked by a Warlord Pirate fleet, however you will not have to defend it really as some of Emperor Gerx's Imperal fleet will show up and blow them to bits to keep his promise.

So what's the chance of other friendly nations posting their scientists to this ship? The size make it an excellent platform for some macro-experiements, and a lot of science types are wondering if they could arrange berths.

Science Advisor Sister Maria, OotMH

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The Elrandir, or Star Pilgrim, today finally departed her drydock at the Orbital Fleet Yards shared with Kecha. The product of nearly [two realtime months] of work, the Elrandir Exploration/Resourcing Command Vessel carries a crew of five thousand, and also five cruiser-sized research vessels modified from our usual cruiser platform, and an entire Somtaaw-built resourcing fleet. There are also the finest scientific systems to be found on any vessel, supplies for years of travel, and thousands of every conceivable form of probe. This massive vessel is capable of directing the exploration efforts for an entire sector of space, simultaneously. The Elrandir carries the largest tesseract-jump engine ever built, and will be making her first jump at midnight tonight. It remains to be seen whether additional Elrandir-class E/RCV's will be constructed.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/chron/executor.jpg
An image of the E/RCV Elrandir in testing maneuvers, taken earlier today from a satellite orbiting Luna.

In other news, the Eighteenth Gravitic Battle Fleet launched this week from Ceres Yards, and Daggerstar Yards put out their first fleet, the Seventeenth. This adds sixty new warships to the Menelmacari navy.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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And I thought my 8km capital ship was big :shock: Penguenia may be intrested in some of these in the future for "upgrading"

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Supreme Grand Admiral Justy Tylor
Grand Imperial Fleet of Penguenia (http://boards.gamers.com/messages/overview.asp?name=Penguenia&page=1)

It takes [five weeks realtime] to build the spaceframe of the vessel herself and [two or three weeks realtime] to outfit her fully. She's a heavily customized vessel based on the Executor-class chassis. By comparison, it takes us [three weeks realtime] to construct and outfit an entire thirty-ship battlegroup. Plus there are very few docks big enough for her. So if you want one... she's extremely expensive.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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We again issue our congratulations, this time on the completion of this, research leviathan.

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Princeps Senatus Karl Kopinski
'Benevolent' Quasi-Dictator of the C'tan Confederacy, Excecutive of all states, colonies, holdings, and protectorates therein.

We congratulate you on the completion of your vessel. Good luck with your exploration.

I'm sorry i got the size wrong-but at least you have made the most of my craft. well done, menelmacar.

ooc:- Largest but untested jump drive eh....how about an RP on the misjump & wierd happening that result to those on her? Pity my nation is limited to launching satellites :(

Indeed this is Marvelous news we will watch with great interest the first Jump of this new tool in your nations research capacitys.

Farseer Council.

After recieving word of such a behmoth, the Governor-General, knowing full well the horrid vunerabilities of the piss-poor design, sends word to the Lady of Menelmar, offering to take that abomination of a deathtrap off her hands for fifty dollars. He mention's that he's only thinking of the saftey of the elves, as he would hate to see, say, a handfull of poorly-armed fighters killing so many. After sending teh message, Namir has a good long laugh about it.

Hey! that "Deathtrap" has won me many wars against enemy fleets!

most noted was when we fought the Blood Dragons.

Please think about what it can really do before you go blagging about it.

Considering this thing needs, like, 100 times the ressources an gravship needs (16km long, correct?), i somehow doubt the 18th gravfleet was launched...

ooc comment by the DA player, calculating the mass of this three- dimensional object.

Edit, misscalculation

Considering this thing needs, like, 100 times the ressources an entire gravfleet needs (16km long, correct?), i somehow doubt the 18th gravfleet was launched... or that any gravfleets will be launched within the next 6 RL years.

ooc comment by the DA player, calculating the mass of this three- dimensional object.

Please note that this is not Star Wars.

Not only are my SSD's half the size of a star wars version, but they are fitted with MY technology.

I have not copied them exactly, it's mainly that i like the craft.

'Cardboard.'

'Seriously?'

'Yup, look, right there.'

'Oh yeah. Weetbix boxes. Hmph.'

~Random Observers.

After consulting his advisors, Governor-General Namir Al-Zwahrir retracts his offer to Menelmar, as his agents have since informed him that the 'Super Star Destroyer' is in fact hollow, and made out of fiberglass. He is unoffically quoted that such a ship would look good on his mantlepiece, as it really it has no other place then there.

edit see above

Please note that this is not Star Wars.

Not only are my SSD's half the size of a star wars version, but they are fitted with MY technology.

I have not copied them exactly, it's mainly that i like the craft.

Ok, so 25 times the amount neccessary for a single gravship And i mean the FUCKING LARGE ONES, means de facto the ressources for two entire gravfleets.

What is it with you people?

I'm sick of you calling spacecraft "cardboard"

Haven't you ever herd of "Creativity?"

I'm sick of realism! tanks, cannons, the like.

I want to try somthing else, and it's called cardboard.

the only reason you hate space tech is because of orbital bombardment. It's baisicly the same as an ICBM-it can be INTERCEPTED you numskulls!

Freedom of though is a human right. if you can't handle that, then what the hell are you doing here?

What is it with you people?

I'm sick of you calling spacecraft "cardboard"

Haven't you ever herd of "Creativity?"

I'm sick of realism! tanks, cannons, the like.

I want to try somthing else, and it's called cardboard.

the only reason you hate space tech is because of orbital bombardment. It's baisicly the same as an ICBM-it can be INTERCEPTED you numskulls!

Freedom of though is a human right. if you can't handle that, then what the hell are you doing here?

(Bold text by me)

It´s not 'creative' to take a show and use it`s tech.

Creativity would be to Think about own, unique, stuff.

We congratulate Menelmacar and the Lady Sirithil on building this science and exploration vessel.
We were wondering two things. One. Will there be a celebration party? And are your allies invited?
Two. Would Diablo_NL be allowed to send a team of it's finest scientists to join your excellent crew on this magnificent ship, and explore the galaxy?

~ William i Eldandil Xylon of New Avalon.

I've lost interest.

I never RP with you anyway, so who cares. You think it's cardboard? then waych my cardboard smite my enemies!

I'm off to RP with somone who will and is not afraid of better tech!

Dear Menelmacar,





You are found guilty of excessive picture size

and are fined 8 kilometers of star destroyer.


Dear Imperial Navy



You are found guilty of false claims of originality

and are ordered to make up one (1) original starship design, consistent with the established military culture of your nation



By authority of God, who died and left me the keys. Also by that army.



Now, SSDs are silly even civilianized and can Siri have her thread back?

AHH! my brothers been posting again!

Sorry about this , but he keeps hacking my password.

Yes i know SSD's are silly, that's why i'm phasing out the SD tech-i'm moving onto Homeworld tech.

Sorry to Der angst and the GMC.

I've gotta change my password again... just a tick.

ooc:- Stop hijacking this thread! This ship is not cardboard..which if you read the original post you would understand! For godsake people grow up! And stop posting those stupid cardboard statements...if you don't like it then just ignore it :evil:

ic:- We congratulate you on completing such a large vessel for such a worthy purpose.

New! Super Star Destroyers! An unbelievably and ungodly weapon, aceptable cause its Siri's, and cause its not really a weapon at all! Sycophants not included, some assembly required.

OOC: The flaws in the design have been addressed and it's ridiculous power level toned down greatly. Indiastan... outta my thread. If you don't like the ship, you can always attack it...

...and then I'll destroy you.

~Siri

Up!

~Siri

We congratulate Menelmacar and the Lady Sirithil on building this science and exploration vessel.
We were wondering two things. One. Will there be a celebration party? And are your allies invited?
Two. Would Diablo_NL be allowed to send a team of it's finest scientists to join your excellent crew on this magnificent ship, and explore the galaxy?

~ William i Eldandil Xylon of New Avalon.
ooc: Just self quoting because I have a strong feeling you over read this Siri ;)