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Today the Resi Corporation has unveiled plans for the creation of a Civil Energy Sheild (C.E.S.) that can be invoked to protect Resi City from missiles and bombers in times of war. However, the flip side to this is that no one will be able to enter or exit the city (except through underground tunnels) while the sheild is up.

The sheild is made up of millions of small laser cannons, evenly spaced to let no bomb or bullet pass through (unless a country spends thousands on hea-proofing their bombs, which is usually pretty pointless). These will all intersect on one prysmic sphere placed on a tower high above the rest of Resi City, quite possibly making it the tallest building in the world. This sphere will then reflect the excess energy from the lasers back into powering them again. As of yet, this sphere is figured to be the only weak point in the sheild.

To power this monstrosity of a project, plans to build 15 more full-sized power plants (each able to power an area the size of New York) have been comissioned. During times of peace the power from these plants will be sold to third world countries and other countries short on power.

If anyone wants specifics, feel free to ask for them here.

If any of you want to scream "GODMOD", please tell me why it is such.

IF nothign can pass through , you people wil sufficate if you leave it on for long, or just die from monoxide poison from cars.

hmm, the laser cannons create a grid or a layer? it sounds more like a grid to me, since it isn't explained on how the lasers cover the entire area... Maybe the tower spreads them out when refracted?

IF nothign can pass through , you people wil sufficate if you leave it on for long, or just die from monoxide poison from cars.That's what the underground tunnels are for, ventilation and transportation.

hmm, the laser cannons create a grid or a layer? it sounds more like a grid to me, since it isn't explained on how the lasers cover the entire area... Maybe the tower spreads them out when refracted?It's actually a grid, but they're placed so close together it might as well be a layer.

hmm, the laser cannons create a grid or a layer? it sounds more like a grid to me, since it isn't explained on how the lasers cover the entire area... Maybe the tower spreads them out when refracted?It's actually a grid, but they're placed so close together it might as well be a layer.

thats a lot of lasers...

and because they are lasers, air can pass through the grid (i suppose, unless its actually creating a solid barrier)... hm, if something is moving fast enough, couldn't it just bypass the heat, since it wouldn't have enough time to transfer to the metal or other material the projectile is made of?

What about energy weapons? Ion weapons?

I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field off

Interesting idea. Horribly expensive, but I know you have money laying around. I assume the lasers are going to be on the ground - probably heavily dug in to shield them from someone just dropping a bomb right outside and knocking them out. Am I right?

thats a lot of lasers...

and because they are lasers, air can pass through the grid (i suppose, unless its actually creating a solid barrier)... hm, if something is moving fast enough, couldn't it just bypass the heat, since it wouldn't have enough time to transfer to the metal or other material the projectile is made of?You better believe that's a lot of lasers. Why do you think we're using 15 Plasma Plants for this?

If something was moving fast enough it would be able to bypass the heat, but it wouldn't be able to drop anything (including bombs, people, etc) or fire any shots safely during the time it was within the laser sheild. Besides, if one or two planes manage to breach the sheild, our conventional anti-air defence will stop them.

I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...

Interesting idea. Horribly expensive, but I know you have money laying around. I assume the lasers are going to be on the ground - probably heavily dug in to shield them from someone just dropping a bomb right outside and knocking them out. Am I right?Yep, you're right on the mark.

how can the lasers form a barrier, they'd shoot straight into the sky.. they can't just magically form into a bubble. This is wrong in so many ways I won't even start. I've enjoyed RP'ing with you, but this would drastically change that.

There is also the possibility of this - Highly cheap mirrors mounted on each warhead.... If you defract tha lasers, you defract as much as 90% of the heat transmission.

What about energy weapons? Ion weapons?Energy weapons will probably function at a maximum of 50% effencey if fired through the sheild due to the refraction of light. Ion weapons will create small holes in the sheild that will remain in place for about a nanosecond, which the plasma generators will easily compensate for.

As for the particle beam, Ardor will need to explain to us what he means by that.

how can the lasers form a barrier, they'd shoot straight into the sky.. they can't just magically form into a bubble. This is wrong in so many ways I won't even start. I've enjoyed RP'ing with you, but this would drastically change that.I never said it was a bubble, now did I? They're directed in an angle at the sphere to form a cone.

thats a lot of lasers...

and because they are lasers, air can pass through the grid (i suppose, unless its actually creating a solid barrier)... hm, if something is moving fast enough, couldn't it just bypass the heat, since it wouldn't have enough time to transfer to the metal or other material the projectile is made of?You better believe that's a lot of lasers. Why do you think we're using 15 Plasma Plants for this?

If something was moving fast enough it would be able to bypass the heat, but it wouldn't be able to drop anything (including bombs, people, etc) or fire any shots safely during the time it was within the laser sheild. Besides, if one or two planes manage to breach the sheild, our conventional anti-air defence will stop them.

I;m saying if it was a cruise missile or other projectile, it is fast enough to penetrate the shield AND can cause damage, right?

Okay... so, basically you are saying you are now 99% invulnerable to bombardment. Yep, I consider this a godmod, since it gives you an HIGHLY unfair advantage. Sorry, heh.

I;m saying if it was a cruise missile or other projectile, it is fast enough to penetrate the shield AND can cause damage, right?Cruise missile, probably not. However, a HOUND could be trouble.

Okay... so, basically you are saying you are now 99% invulnerable to bombardment. Yep, I consider this a godmod, since it gives you an HIGHLY unfair advantage. Sorry, heh.So anything that gives a nation an edge, even something that causes them great expense, should be ignored? What a novel idea!

*IGNOREs everyone bigger than him (joking)*

I;m saying if it was a cruise missile or other projectile, it is fast enough to penetrate the shield AND can cause damage, right?Cruise missile, probably not. However, a HOUND could be trouble.

ah, ok. as long as the system has SOME loophole :lol:

HMM, i wonder what the public is gonna think when they all burst into flames from the heat. all thos lasers running at once, and the defraction would scatter the heat to all over, but basically you would jsut be making a huge @$$ infared beacon.


Ohh adn as for particle beam weapons, its prety much like a laser beam except i believe that it uses atoms a the parts of atoms in the energy stream. cause i regular laser i believe uses the electrons

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Okay... so, basically you are saying you are now 99% invulnerable to bombardment. Yep, I consider this a godmod, since it gives you an HIGHLY unfair advantage. Sorry, heh.OOC: *notes this is not around his whole nation... only around his capital*

I believe if someone starts bandying around ortillery strikes eventually every shield will fail. It's an interesting idea, and it should give him more time to evacuate his population, but it is still a Tower.

'Warfare flows like water, and what cliff has stood forever against the sea?'
Me, about 30 seconds ago.

I said 'highly'. For example, most 21st century nations won't RP with future tech because it has a highly unfair advantage. This is the same - your tech is a HIGHLY unfair advantage to all levels of technology.

I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...Ahem.

Now if the generators are shielded, shoot the emmiters and that'll feedback the system, causing the same effect.

I said 'highly'. For example, most 21st century nations won't RP with future tech because it has a highly unfair advantage. This is the same - your tech is a HIGHLY unfair advantage to all levels of technology.OOC: *snickers* its not unfair... you know the best way to take care of lazers? well placed mirrors *nods sagely*

I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...Ahem.

Now if the generators are shielded, shoot the emmiters and that'll feedback the system, causing the same effect.

hmm.. *calls airforce execs.*

HMM, i wonder what the public is gonna think when they all burst into flames from the heat. all thos lasers running at once, and the defraction would scatter the heat to all over, but basically you would jsut be making a huge @$$ infared beacon.That's only if something struck the sheild all over at the same time. If one bullet of bomb struck the sheild, the light that would be defrated would be negligable.

Lasers constantly generate heat. They transfer this heat to the air around them. The air around them heats up, people die, animals die, plans die, water evaporates. Bye bye capital.

I said 'highly'. For example, most 21st century nations won't RP with future tech because it has a highly unfair advantage. This is the same - your tech is a HIGHLY unfair advantage to all levels of technology.So you're saying that if the United States used its vastly superior technology in a war on, say, China, that China could just ignore it all?

That's BS, plain and simple.

And Sean, why the hell're you ignoring me? Read the first post, if you're going to ignore me, you have to say why.

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Lasers constantly generate heat. They transfer this heat to the air around them. The air around them heats up, people die, animals die, plans die, water evaporates. Bye bye capital.and if the lasers create enough heat to melt metal then your capitol would be just about melted.

I said 'highly'. For example, most 21st century nations won't RP with future tech because it has a highly unfair advantage. This is the same - your tech is a HIGHLY unfair advantage to all levels of technology.

Lets see - give me 30 seconds and I could figure out 5 ways around this thing. It's not even close to highly unfair. Highly unfair is near instant extreme distance travel. Battles are not won by fixed defenses. They are won by rapid mobility, information, and flexibility. This doesn't appreciably alter any of those three factors.

Any ignores because of this are a total rush to judgement.

Putting a shield over your cities is godmoding, notice the one 'd'. It would be smart to just scrap the idea.

Does anyone hear have a shield around their cities? :roll:

yes i have a shield, but its a stupid shield so that no stupid people invade my smart city

Putting a shield over your cities is godmoding, notice the one 'd'. It would be smart to just scrap the idea.

Does anyone hear have a shield around their cities? :roll:So it'd give me a large advantage. Don't Melkor's Gravships give him a large advantage? And yet no one ignores those...

The fact that no one else has one of these is sort of the point. I wanted to make a well-RPed city-wide sheild to restore credit to the idea.

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I said 'highly'. For example, most 21st century nations won't RP with future tech because it has a highly unfair advantage. This is the same - your tech is a HIGHLY unfair advantage to all levels of technology.

Lets see - give me 30 seconds and I could figure out 5 ways around this thing. It's not even close to highly unfair. Highly unfair is near instant extreme distance travel. Battles are not won by fixed defenses. They are won by rapid mobility, information, and flexibility. This doesn't appreciably alter any of those three factors.

Any ignores because of this are a total rush to judgement.((OOC: *claps*

yes i have a shield, but its a stupid shield so that no stupid people invade my smart cityWow... was that hypocritical or what? :lol:

This whole thing looks BS

Just have a missile defence net, like me. That way the entire capital city is efficently well-protected. And it is a lot cheaper, too.

yes i have a shield, but its a stupid shield so that no stupid people invade my smart cityWow... was that hypocritical or what? :lol:i do believe that the post was suppose to be incredibly ignorant, and hypocritical, and i was jsut joking anyways

Putting a shield over your cities is godmoding, notice the one 'd'. It would be smart to just scrap the idea.

Does anyone hear have a shield around their cities? :roll:

For one thing:

It's a damn shield, you're trying to make your city invincible.

For another:

Your people would sufficate or overheat, either way, by having the shield.

Actually - we do. Since we live on Mars, most of the Republic's cities are built either underground or in capped craters with very heavy domes because of the dangers of asteroid strikes. It protects from ortillery strikes as well of course.

I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...Ahem.

Now if the generators are shielded, shoot the emmiters and that'll feedback the system, causing the same effect.RESI!

Address my point dammit! :x

It's a valid way to deativate it and you haven't even aknowledged I said anything.

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For one thing:

It's a damn shield, you're trying to make your city invincible.If you were paying attention, you'd find that it DOESN'T make my city invincible.
For another:

Your people would sufficate or overheat, either way, by having the shield.This so far is the only valid flaw brought to my attention. As of yet I can't think of a way out of this fact, so I may have to scrap the sheild because of it.

ortillery strikes as well of course.

spelling disablility, or jsut a broke keyboard

Hmm... we have shielding around our larger ships. They absorb 60% of missiles and asteroids, along with some heat. Perhaps if your shield wasn't so nearly effective it wouldn't be considered (by me, at least) to be such a godmod.

But all shields have a weakness, such as a weapon that can get through the shield, tell me it's weaknesses and maybe I'll reconsider.Read the post again. Several weaknesses have been brought up, such as heavy ion weapons and Automagfreek's HOUNDs.

Neither Ortillery Strikes is the term coined for Orbital strikes on a nation, Artillery from Orbit.

Resi said HOUNDS could break through, happy Sean?

EDIT: sorry, he got to saying it first -_-... didn't mean disrespect, meant it as sarcasm

I said 'highly'. For example, most 21st century nations won't RP with future tech because it has a highly unfair advantage. This is the same - your tech is a HIGHLY unfair advantage to all levels of technology.So you're saying that if the United States used its vastly superior technology in a war on, say, China, that China could just ignore it all?

That's BS, plain and simple.

OOC: Sorry, couldn't resist...I originally used this against the bisons in the following scene.*


IC:
No USA, NEVAR!

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg

"There was never any US, we killed them all in their homes. They never existed. Allahu Akbar.

There are no American Infidels in Baghdad, they never existed. Saddam, Allah willing, will lead Iraq forever. Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected.

We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid (dramatic pause) and they are condemned.

Do not, in fact, repeat their lies. They do not, they never did, exist.

Allahu Akbar."

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Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
WA department of humor, cynicism, and ridicule


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Nope, I ignored Walten, as

o Hes a space nation (Just ask Ma-tek or Melemacar if i ignore em, walten isnt the 1st space naiton to not exist)
o He decided I never existed after I said Id leave (Alright, I never existed means I was never nuked)


I must actually thank Walten for ignoring me, gave me an easy excuse to ignore the nuking.
You ignored Menelmacar and Ma-tek?

Menelmacar for threatening me with gravships, Ma-tek for sending space fighters that can shoot down nukes aimed at em and are invulnerable to EMP at me.


Any other nation sending various plasma cannons at me will be ignored.



Since Walten only survived due to space (and him ignoring the whole affair), I did what he did: ignore the whole affair.

You just can't ignore them. They are there and have influence over thousands of nations (yes, I'm probably exaggerating). That's like saying the US doesn't exist in real life.

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I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...Ahem.

Now if the generators are shielded, shoot the emmiters and that'll feedback the system, causing the same effect.How would it feedback the system? Explain yourself.

Neither Ortillery Strikes is the term coined for Orbital strikes on a nation, Artillery from Orbit.

thanks for the info then

We have a shield. 895 million hearts and souls that would die defending their homeland.

For another:

Your people would sufficate or overheat, either way, by having the shield.This so far is the only valid flaw brought to my attention. As of yet I can't think of a way out of this fact, so I may have to scrap the sheild because of it.((OOC: big fookin' fans in your underground tunnels *grins*))

Also, what are the ways of deactivating it? Since you'll respond OOCly, I won't know this.You've got to read through the post, my man. Several people have brought up legitimate ways already, like overloading the power supply with ion cannons.

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Actually, lasers are pretty good at keeping their thermal energy directed. The machines producing them would create heat but unless it was in an enclosed space that wouldn't matter anyways (especially not if you have any sort of cooling system installed).

It wouldn't suffocate the people unless there was some reason that the lasers would be on for an extreme amount of time in an enclosed environment.

((OOC: big fookin' fans in your underground tunnels *grins*))Me likey, but it will cost a TON.

Eh, what the heck, I'm already spending several trillion on this project, what's a couple billion more?

If there are no shield emitters, there can be no shield.I'm sorry, I never said there were no emitters, I was simply asking for a definition of "feedback".

Try not being so militant and more open to new ideas, Sean.

Also, what are the ways of deactivating it? Since you'll respond OOCly, I won't know this.You've got to read through the post, my man. Several people have brought up legitimate ways already, like overloading the power supply with ion cannons.

If this is a system that puts out energy as it claims then I don't see how you could cause 'feedback' in the system (unless, of course, the wiring is all done wrong :wink: ). But EMPs'll take out a nice section of emitters in short order with no chance of return.

I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...Ahem.

Now if the generators are shielded, shoot the emmiters and that'll feedback the system, causing the same effect.How would it feedback the system? Explain yourself.Ok:

My Ion Cannons effect electrical systems. Therefore a few well placed hits on the generators would shut down part of the field. Now, there are ways to shield against the Ion Cannon, if these generators were protected, we would attempt to strike hits on the emmiters, shutting them and their systems down. Now, as there are many emmiters, we would fire broadsides(4-12 cannons) and disable a large group. That would open up a hole large enough to shoot through. To activate the emmiters(assuming we don't blow them up through the hole) you would have to power them down, De-Ionize the systems affected and power them up. Time consuming and a pain in the ass.

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Here is one way I would get around it. This is OOC information, though really simple.

Bulldozers. Or dozer equipped tanks. Just shove dirt over the emitter bases. It will take a bit, but dirt is free. There are ways to prevent this attack, but will RESI have them? Or just do a lot of strikes on the outside ring. That's what Paveway's are for.

So only future tech nations can disable it? That's just wrong man.You don't have to disable the sheild to gain access to the city. You can use the tunnels easily, although they will be heavily guarded.

A hacker could also hack in and disable the sheild, however they'd have to contend with our best hackers and our Guardian v2.0 sentient protection software (installed in one huge terminal, acts through small programs installed on friendly computers).

So only future tech nations can disable it? That's just wrong man.You don't have to disable the sheild to gain access to the city. You can use the tunnels easily, although they will be heavily guarded.

A hacker could also hack in and disable the sheild, however they'd have to contend with our best hackers and our Guardian v2.0 sentient protection software (installed in one huge terminal, acts through small programs installed on friendly computers).

Thats assuming the system is connected to anything. As a vital system - it shouldn't be. Rule #1 of critical systems.

He means if you take out the emitters, it will also take out the shield.

How am I being militant? :?True, you'd take out a portion of the sheild if you destroyed the emitters, but he was saying that if you destroyed one batch of emitters, you'd destroy the whole thing due to "feedback" on the generators.

He means if you take out the emitters, it will also take out the shield.

How am I being militant? :?True, you'd take out a portion of the sheild if you destroyed the emitters, but he was saying that if you destroyed one batch of emitters, you'd destroy the whole thing due to "feedback" on the generators.No. Read the response a few posts up...

Thats assuming the system is connected to anything. As a vital system - it shouldn't be. Rule #1 of critical systems.It shouldn't be, but it is. We're ICly cocky enough to allow this sort of thing to exist just so that we could activate the sheild from the other side of NS Earth. You gotta admit we have it pretty well protected.

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I'm sure particle beam bombardment would certainly turn most of this field offIon Cannon bonbardment to overload and shut down the generators. Big hole in the shield to shoot through...Ahem.

Now if the generators are shielded, shoot the emmiters and that'll feedback the system, causing the same effect.How would it feedback the system? Explain yourself.Ok:

My Ion Cannons effect electrical systems. Therefore a few well placed hits on the generators would shut down part of the field. Now, there are ways to shield against the Ion Cannon, if these generators were protected, we would attempt to strike hits on the emmiters, shutting them and their systems down. Now, as there are many emmiters, we would fire broadsides(4-12 cannons) and disable a large group. That would open up a hole large enough to shoot through. To activate the emmiters(assuming we don't blow them up through the hole) you would have to power them down, De-Ionize the systems affected and power them up. Time consuming and a pain in the ass.*thinks some people may have missed this*

No. Read the response a few posts up...Ah, sorry, I missed that.

My Plasma Generators are actually INSIDE of the city, placed underground. However, that would just force you to act as if the Generators were sheilded.

I can't believe no one has thought of bombing the big friggin' prysmatic sphere in the center on the sheild. Sure it'll have excellent anti-air and missile defence in place, but if something kills that then no energy will be recycled and the reactors will overload and shut down.

The answer was damn obvious... :roll:

OOC : Here's my way around this lovely shield system. The only way in or out while the shield is on is through tunnels. If you want the shield off, cave in the tunnels. They have to come out eventually. :)

No. Read the response a few posts up...Ah, sorry, I missed that.

My Plasma Generators are actually INSIDE of the city, placed underground. However, that would just force you to act as if the Generators were sheilded.

I can't believe no one has thought of bombing the big friggin' prysmatic sphere in the center on the sheild. Sure it'll have excellent anti-air and missile defence in place, but if something kills that then no energy will be recycled and the reactors will overload and shut down.

The answer was damn obvious... :roll:

Sheesh, what do you expect? You play it up as if it's supposed to defend pretty much everything you throw at the city, so why waste ordinance and see it make pretty colors?

OOC : Here's my way around this lovely shield system. The only way in or out while the shield is on is through tunnels. If you want the shield of cave in the tunnels. They have to come out eventually. :)Ever hear of a self-sustained environment?

Crimmond, check my response above.

Sean, you do the same. The Prysmatic sphere thing will appeal to you.

No. Read the response a few posts up...Ah, sorry, I missed that.

My Plasma Generators are actually INSIDE of the city, placed underground. However, that would just force you to act as if the Generators were sheilded.

I can't believe no one has thought of bombing the big friggin' prysmatic sphere in the center on the sheild. Sure it'll have excellent anti-air and missile defence in place, but if something kills that then no energy will be recycled and the reactors will overload and shut down.

The answer was damn obvious... :roll: :shock: You mean that thing isn't INSIDE the dome? OMG! That's stupider than the Star Destroyers shield balls that last 5 minutes in combat! :roll:

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:shock: You mean that thing isn't INSIDE the dome? OMG! That's stupider than the Star Destroyers shield balls that last 5 minutes in combat! :roll:The thing is MOSTLY inside the dome, but just enough sticks out for someone to bomb. That little bit is heavily protected by conventional anti-air and anti-missile defence.

OOC : Here's my way around this lovely shield system. The only way in or out while the shield is on is through tunnels. If you want the shield off, cave in the tunnels. They have to come out eventually. :)Ever hear of a self-sustained environment?

Crimmond, check my response above.

Sean, you do the same. The Prysmatic sphere thing will appeal to you.The city would eventually run out of resources. It's a tactic that has been used for centuries if not longer.

Besides, it's be scientifically impossible for something like that to be inside the sheild.

Well, destroying the central thing would shut it down faster, but it couldn't shut it down emmediatly. The generators should be able to keep it up for a while before overheading. Say 30 seconds...

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The city would eventually run out of resources. It's a tactic that has been used for centuries if not longer.But you see, we recycle most of our stuff for maximum effencey. What little we do need will be transported to us from the outside, via heavily guarded transports traveling through the tunnels (whoa, hows that for alliteration? :shock: ).

It is not enough. The IGNORE will stand until further improvement is seen.Off-Topic-OOC: Sean, I almost forgot, my leader and his sister arrived at you planet...

It is not enough. The IGNORE will stand until further improvement is seen.What in the twenty hells? The thing has a MILLION weak spots! What do you want me to do, make it so that a hobo with a stick could deactivate it?

Seriously...

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The city would eventually run out of resources. It's a tactic that has been used for centuries if not longer.But you see, we recycle most of our stuff for maximum effencey. What little we do need will be transported to us from the outside, via heavily guarded transports traveling through the tunnels (whoa, hows that for alliteration? :shock: ).Lovely alliteration. :wink: But the main point of my plan was to colapse the tunnels.

It is not enough. The IGNORE will stand until further improvement is seen.What in the twenty hells? The thing has a MILLION weak spots! What do you want me to do, make it so that a hobo with a stick could deactivate it?

Seriously...Actually a hobo with a shovel could dig underneath it. :D

Lovely alliteration. :wink: But the main point of my plan was to colapse the tunnels.Oh, dur. My bad. >_<

If you could hold out for about three months, our people would be forced to eat soylent green. Should you hold out for a year, the city and its two remaining inhabitants would be yours.

That's all assuming thatyou stop the robots that fight you and the ones that'll attempt to clear the tunnels.

Resi, the problem is, where are those anti-missile/anti-air platforms? On top of the shield? :roll:On top of the ball you're trying to bomb! I only said that twice.

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just drop poison gas into the ventilation ducts

Resi, the problem is, where are those anti-missile/anti-air platforms? On top of the shield? :roll:On top of the ball you're trying to bomb! I only said that twice.Read.

I wish you'd actually read ALL the posts in the thread.

I don't really know what the fuss is about - this is hardly that bad. Here's something worse to maybe put it into perspective.

What if he put a plasma shield around the city? Constructed a dome with emitters on the outside and shunted plasma of some kind through it? Considering some of the things floating around here it's not too far fetched.

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just drop poison gas into the ventilation ductsYou'd get attacked for chem/bio weapon use...

just drop poison gas into the ventilation ductsDucts? What ducts?
Oooohhh... you mean the tunnels that are monitored by round-the-clock surveilence and have robots guarding them? Well why didn't you say so?

It got mixed up in your hobo discussion.

How can anything be held up by lasers? :roll:Actually, people are experimenting with Lasers as a form of propulsion(at least for Earth to orbit)... It's a little unstable, but feasible.

It got mixed up in your hobo discussion.

How can anything be held up by lasers? :roll:

Don't make me dig up the link - but it's more than possible. Current experiments with highly polished cones propelled by lasers. It's one of those 'lets replace the shuttle for trillions of dollars' ideas, but RESI has trillions of dollars.

How can anything be held up by lasers? :roll:Abla ingles? CAN YOU READ?

It isn't held up by lasers, but it's on a tower. I said that in the first post.

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But wouldn't the lasers slice through the tower if it was in the middle?The lasers are aimed at the BALL not the tower it sits on! :roll:

As I understand it the lasers are coming out of the tower.

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EDIT: No!!! Text art has failed me!

As I understand it the lasers are coming out of the tower.The lasers are coming out of the ground and are heading towords the tower.

As I understand it the lasers are coming out of the tower.The lasers are coming out of the ground and are heading towords the tower.Well you know what I mean, coming out of, going into, it's all the same in the end. :)

Well you know what I mean, coming out of, going into, it's all the same in the end. :)"So you gave away all our presents to Toys for Tots?"
"Well, they all said 'from' us, so..."
"That was 'for', Peter, they were for us."
"Well when did they change the meaning of 'from' to 'for'?"
"Actually, they had a meeting about it last week."
"Why wasn't I notified?"
"Well, you were sent a letter that said 'For Peter', but you assumed that it was 'from' you, and... y'know what? It's just easier to call you stupid."
- Peter and Brian, Family Guy

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It's been a long day, I'm not in the best mood...

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After much consideration, I will lift the IGNORE.Good. Thanks for seeing the light.

Well you know what I mean, coming out of, going into, it's all the same in the end. :)"So you gave away all our presents to Toys for Tots?"
"Well, they all said 'from' us, so..."
"That was 'for', Peter, they were for us."
"Well when did they change the meaning of 'from' to 'for'?"
"Actually, they had a meeting about it last week."
"Why wasn't I notified?"
"Well, you were sent a letter that said 'For Peter', but you assumed that it was 'from' you, and... y'know what? It's just easier to call you stupid."
- Peter and Brian, Family Guy

:lol: I saw that ep, too.

just drop poison gas into the ventilation ductsYou'd get attacked for chem/bio weapon use...
So what

So whatYou'd be squashed by AMF and his anti-WMD team.

So whatYou'd be squashed by AMF and his anti-WMD team.Or his giant sentient supercomputer could sit on you... :lol:

Or his giant sentient supercomputer could sit on you... :lol:Skynet? Naw, he doesn't rip off Terminator ENTIRELY.

You know for about the same cost you could construct a network of laser silos and defend your whole country instead of just your capital. But then again I guess that's not as cool.

Anyway it seems it could be defeated rather easily with a simple siege and EMP weapons. Or sabotage might work.

You know for about the same cost you could construct a network of laser silos and defend your whole country instead of just your capital. But then again I guess that's not as cool.

Anyway it seems it could be defeated rather easily with a simple siege and EMP weapons. Or sabotage might work.But the point of this IS to look cool. It is showing off the might of the corporation in one big shiney sheild the likes of which the world has never seen and (due to GODMODing accusations) probably will never see again. It will stand as a testimate to good yet unconventional RPing throughout all of NationStates, and it will symbolize the might of our national defences.

However, seeing as the project has been met with such resistance, I might work on a more GODMODy yet less criticized type of project: an Orbital City.
http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/typhoonflames/foundation3.jpg

Neat!

((Resi.. if your still online jump on AIM or something))

(finger in mouth, looking upward)

I wonder if someone is planning to sabotage it?

So whatYou'd be squashed by AMF and his anti-WMD team.
He's off jerking around in some nebula, and by the time he received the news a few light years would pass. And I only do current tech anyways, and I think resi is future so it don't matter

He's off jerking around in some nebula, and by the time he received the news a few light years would pass. And I only do current tech anyways, and I think resi is future so it don't matterResi is actually current with a hell of a lot of R&D funding. However, if I were to make this sheild or the space city it would require me moving completely into the future, and that's the main reason why I'm reluctant to build them.

You know for about the same cost you could construct a network of laser silos and defend your whole country instead of just your capital. But then again I guess that's not as cool.

Anyway it seems it could be defeated rather easily with a simple siege and EMP weapons. Or sabotage might work.But the point of this IS to look cool. It is showing off the might of the corporation in one big shiney sheild the likes of which the world has never seen and (due to GODMODing accusations) probably will never see again. It will stand as a testimate to good yet unconventional RPing throughout all of NationStates, and it will symbolize the might of our national defences.

However, seeing as the project has been met with such resistance, I might work on a more GODMODy yet less criticized type of project: an Orbital City.
http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/typhoonflames/foundation3.jpg




Actually you could put a city into orbit realistically you just need to use the Orion project method. First build a large capsule capable of going into orbit around the city, the bottom of which must be able to survive several nearby detonations of an atom bomb. Then place a large amount of the A-bombs in the bottom and set one off, this would propel the city upwards and once the city begins to lose momentum set of another until you reach orbit. It's a lot like setting a cherry bomb under a trash can or firing a bullet out of a gun only on a much larger scale. The end result would either be a city in orbit or the city would be destroyed . . . but still pretty cool huh?

Or we could just build it in space.

But hey, either method works. :P

Actually you could put a city into orbit realistically you just need to use the Orion project method. First build a large capsule capable of going into orbit around the city, the bottom of which must be able to survive several nearby detonations of an atom bomb. Then place a large amount of the A-bombs in the bottom and set one off, this would propel the city upwards and once the city begins to lose momentum set of another until you reach orbit. It's a lot like setting a cherry bomb under a trash can or firing a bullet out of a gun only on a much larger scale. The end result would either be a city in orbit or the city would be destroyed . . . but still pretty cool huh?

Yes, nuclear pulse propulsion.

BUMP for input!
and to see how many people get pissed off :-P

Or we could just build it in space.





But where's the fun in that does it involve a single massive explosion? doesn't seem like it would.

Besides launching your cities into orbit would be a cool way of showing how advanced you are.

I'm half-serious here, half-not.

You should take one of your islands and dome it over. Then cut the island off about 400 feet down and seal it. Then launch the whole sucker into space somehow. Or maybe just LEO. But floating islands are always cool.

So whatYou'd be squashed by AMF and his anti-WMD team.
He's off jerking around in some nebula, and by the time he received the news a few light years would pass. And I only do current tech anyways, and I think resi is future so it don't matter


To say that I still don't have eyes on Earth would be very unwise.

The project is has been completed for some time now, but for some reason the public hasn't been notified. And yes, there is a reason for this. :wink: