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Attention Third World/developing countries

Tanah Burung
27-07-2003, 18:40
Recently several developing countries met in the City of Golden Agate in Larkinia and agreed to this final declaration. Other developing countries are invited to sign some or all of its provisions (some countries chose not to sign the defence clause).

Q. "Is my nation a developing country?"

A. This mainly depends on how you are role-playing it. If you have one or more of: a colonial past, low income, "backward" technology and such markers, then you are probably a developing country. It helps if your economy is reasonable or below. If you have already RP'ed yourself as a highly developed country, it's too late to change now.

If your country wishes to be a part of this movement, please sign on here.

An associated body is the Developing Nations Aid Commission, which brings together developing and developed countries in the campaign for international development. More information on the DNAC is available on that thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36609

FINAL DECLARATION – DEVELOPING NATIONS SUMMIT

Note: One billion (1,000,000,000) Apollopoli has been submitted to a neutral bank for distribution to all developing nations at the conference. Please confer with Katana at the end of the conference for distribution guidelines and deadlines.

Section I – International Monetery Fund.

1. States party will accept the creation of an International Monetary Fund with the goal of providing needed monies to Developing Nations to repair damages from disasters, or loans to buy needed equipment for development.
2. States party will accept that the money sent out as loans will contain zero (0) percent interest, and are repayable in long term (decades) if necessary
3. States party will accept that the monies repaid to the fund will remain in the fund for other needy Developing Nations to access if necessary.
4. States party understand that they are free to contribute to the fund or not, and are free to submit requests for aid to the fund or not.
5. This fund will be monitored and disbursed by committee made up of 7 members, 5 from developing nations and 2 from developed nations.

Section II – Technology Advancement

1. As technological advancements are necessary for nations to pull themselves out of developing status and
2. As some states struggle to develop the necessary technology to advance, then
3. States party recognize the development of a “Technology Development Center” to help provide funding, and encourage an open and free sharing of technological advancements and scientific ideas
4. This center is to be a place where developing nations can coordinate sending students to study in more developed nations, if they should decide it.
5. This center is to be developed in a nation to be determined later.

Section III – Education (OOC: Ziobia's proposal)

1. States party will make public education universal for all citizens and residents.
2. States party will include up-to-date materials in the technical and natural sciences and the humanistic arts in their public curricula.
3. States party will provide open public forums for academic debate on all issues and questions.
4. States party will form an International Academic Exchange Program where students, faculty and leading academic figures may engage in free interactive discussion of academic questions. Students may apply and enroll in, and faculty may transfer offices to, any public institution in any participatory state, according to the rules and policies appertaining.
5. States party will form an International Education Fund that will manage and monitor financial support of education-related projects, such as the creation and maintenance of the International Academic Exchange Program; the purchase and distribution of updated educational materials; the construction or renovation of educational facilities; compensation assistance for faculty and staff; scholarship assistance for students of at-risk or financially burdened communities; and other projects not here listed.

Specific Provisions

1. Ziobia: The Government of Ziobia will contribute an initial payment of US$10 billion to the International Education Fund upon its creation and the election of a managing board. Ziobia will also consider all invitations from other states party to establish Ziobian school and universities abroad, and requests to establish foreign schools on Ziobian territory.
2. Larkinia: The Government of Larkinia will match Ziobia’s financial donation of US$10 billion.
3. Tanah Burung: The people and government of Tanah Burung will contribute $1 billion.
4. Hells Bovines will contribute $150 million.
5. Centralis will contribute $15 billion.
6. Ianisle will cotnribute $200 million.
7. Neocong contributes $6 billion for aid to developing countries (not specifically earmarked for education)

Section IV – Human Rights

1. As basic human rights have been expressed in the (RL) United Nations Charter, and UN Declaration of Human Rights, states party will reaffirm their belief in the idea that “all people are created equal, and should have equal rights under the law.”
2. As freedoms of speech, press, religion and association and freedom from persecution are central tenets to securing human rights, states party will confirm their commitment to keeping these basic rights free.
3. States party agree that people have an inherent right to live a life that is free of poverty, illness and ignorance, and will promise to try and uphold those rights.
4. In keeping with the idea that people have a right to live a life free of poverty and illness, an International Food Security Organisation not just be about delivering food aid to the hungry, but also the transfer of agricultural technology, expertise, and training to third-world food producers, including economic help to stabilize local and international food markets be developed (OOC: Thanks Ziobia!) The right of developing nations to protect their agricultural sector in order to achieve food security is recognized. Food aid will be vegetarian.

Section V – Military

1. A mutual defense agreement for developing nations that wish to participate is proposed. No nation should be forced to enter into it if they are unwilling to.
2. Forces for a Developing nations multi-national force should be from Developing countries. They will become better trained and equipped to handle a situation if they are trained to work alongside each other.
3. A two-pronged approach to defense. A NATO-esque agreement to contribute forces to a member state in case of attack, and a smaller "rapid response" peacekeeping force to be trained and housed in an agreed-upon nation and used when speed is needed over strength
4. A council of nations to call upon this Developing Nations Defense structure is to be made up of no less than 7 members, with at least two developing nations for every one developed nation that wants to help us on the council.
5. A developing nation can call upon this defense force in time of threat or invasion, and peacekeeping missions may be authorized by a 2/3 vote of the members of the defense council.

(edited in latest version of declaration)
Hell Bovines
27-07-2003, 19:09
OOC: Perhaps you should post a list of all the nations signing the final declaration. Of course Hell Bovines is in it.
also....

BUMP!
Garrison II
27-07-2003, 19:13
If I declare myself 3rd World how much money will you give us?
Matich
27-07-2003, 19:25
bump
Tanah Burung
27-07-2003, 19:28
None. But i'm sure you're joking anyway.
Tanah Burung
27-07-2003, 19:43
Signatories to the Golden Agate declaration
(some states abstained on article 5 on defence)

1. Larkinia
2. Tanah Burung
3. Hells Bovines
4. Centralis
5. Ziobia
6. West Token
7. Neocong
8. Iansisle

The conference thread is at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33772&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Imitora
27-07-2003, 19:53
If your country wishes to be a part of this resurgence of the Third World, please sign on here.


I dont quite like the sound of that...to...coupish.
Tanah Burung
27-07-2003, 20:22
Just a little harmless rhetoric. :wink: But OK, edited out.
28-07-2003, 19:39
We will gladly sign the Golden Agate declaration.
28-07-2003, 19:51
A. This mainly depends on how you are role-playing it. If you have one or more of: a colonial past, low income, "backward" technology and such markers, then you are probably a developing country. It helps if your economy is reasonable or below. If you have already RP'ed yourself as a highly developed country, it's too late to change now.

We are definitely a third world country, but we are not interested in your aid if it means changing our traditional way of life. Your policy on human rights is merely a way to try to force us into a quasi-Western path of development.
Alcona and Hubris
28-07-2003, 19:57
As a developed nation, we offer to give scholorships to 10 students a year from the 'Technology Development Center' to study at Newbayern
University in Alcona and Hubris for two years in the College of Engineering, or the College of Physcial Sciences.

Any nation may apply to the College of Agriculture independent of the development center (there will only be five openings)

Students must be able to speak Engish, German or Manx, and will have to take a three part exam to determine math/writing/science understanding

Scholorships are guaranteed for two years with a two year renewal (three for Chemical and Electrial Engineering Students) if grades are sufficent.

edit: If I posted this in the wrong place I'm sorry, but the other thread appears for more donations and arguments about management to me :?
29-07-2003, 02:28
Dear nations of the DNAC:

As a second-world country (as opposed to a fully developed, First-World, or an undeveloped Third-World), Kai Tamarawa would qualify to receive international monetary, medical, educational, and military aid from this DNAC agreement. Though Kai Tamarawa's government is rather strapped for cash (being a socialist state, we have very little need for immense monetary funds), we pledge that we shall repay whatever debts we will owe to this agreement in the future.

Sincerely yours,
Mai Salacamunda Tivarion Tamarawacalenar,
Comrade-Empress
Iansisle
29-07-2003, 02:39
(actually, the term 'second world' refers to planned economies, not developing ones. The list:

1st world: Industrialized / free market
2nd world: Industrialized / planned
3rd world: Developing
4th world: Under developed)
Agrigento
29-07-2003, 02:44
Signatories to the Golden Agate declaration
(some states abstained on article 5 on defence)

1. Larkinia
2. Tanah Burung
3. Hells Bovines
4. Centralis
5. Ziobia
6. West Token
7. Neocong
8. Iansisle

The conference thread is at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33772&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I wish to sign this document also, however I will also abstain from Article V regarding Defence.
Ariddia
29-07-2003, 02:52
The People's Republic of Ariddia will sign, if it does not mean converting to a market economy and abandoning our social rights.
Hell Bovines
29-07-2003, 04:04
The People's Republic of Ariddia will sign, if it does not mean converting to a market economy and abandoning our social rights.
Don't worry about that. Nations signing the final declaration will still have full sovereignity on their territories and will still be able to do what they want with their economies. My country is an example of that: We have attended to the 'Developing Nations Summit' and signed the final declaration and we still have a socialist economy.

Mooo IV, duque of The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines
29-07-2003, 04:23
OOC: Well, KT has a planned economy so.. yeah.
Imitora
29-07-2003, 04:26
OOC: 3rd and 4th world? THose are the ones that have control in the UN, right?

IC:

We would love to sign this treaty, but Section IV goes against quite a few of the ideal and principles of Imitora.
29-07-2003, 04:37
As has been publicly stated elsewhere, Los Lejanos wishes to be a party to all sections of this treaty. While we have significant reservations concerning IV-3 and IV-4, we feel paragraphs 1 and 2 are important enough and that certain ideas expressed in pargraphs 3 and 4 are important enough, that we will sign that section.
Tanah Burung
29-07-2003, 05:08
We are definitely a third world country, but we are not interested in your aid if it means changing our traditional way of life. Your policy on human rights is merely a way to try to force us into a quasi-Western path of development.

The intent is quite the reverse. By standing together, the nations of the Third World can have a strong voice and help each other resist domination by the wealthy West. Some countries are accepting aid; others have refused it. For our part, Tanah Burung has refused direct aid from any Western country since it is likely to foster ties of dependence. We are however accepting and giving mutual aid in which developing countries help each other.

By human rights, my government understands this to be an expression of the rights of every individual and all peoples. Human rights includes not only civil and political rights, but also the right to a basic standard of living (see the Universal Declaration of Human Rights on this). That is why the Golden Agate declaration includes the right to food as part of its human rights article.

Violeta Bi Bere
People's representative for foreign affairs & human rights
Tanah Burung
(not speaking on the behalf of the developing nations as a whole)
Tanah Burung
29-07-2003, 05:16
The People's Republic of Ariddia will sign, if it does not mean converting to a market economy and abandoning our social rights.
Don't worry about that. Nations signing the final declaration will still have full sovereignity on their territories and will still be able to do what they want with their economies. My country is an example of that: We have attended to the 'Developing Nations Summit' and signed the final declaration and we still have a socialist economy.

Mooo IV, duque of The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines

The Duque is quite right, as usual. (Best wishes on your impending marriage, Duque!) The intent is to allow all states to be free to choose their own economic path (private enterprise is outlawed in Tanah Burung, as well, in favour of a planned economy based on cooperatives and government investment).

The so-called "free market" too often forces developing nations to warp their economies to serve the needs of multinational corporations. We beleive that of developing countries stand together, we will be strong enough to be able to choose our own path.

There is a saying in my country: la'o hamutuk, mau bere which means: walk together, brothers. We believe that of developing countries walk together, then we will be best able to choose our own path.

In solidarity,
Violeta Bi Bere
People's representative for foreign affairs & human rights
Tanah Burung
29-07-2003, 05:20
As has been publicly stated elsewhere, Los Lejanos wishes to be a party to all sections of this treaty. While we have significant reservations concerning IV-3 and IV-4, we feel paragraphs 1 and 2 are important enough and that certain ideas expressed in pargraphs 3 and 4 are important enough, that we will sign that section.

We believe there may be some confusion. This is not the same as the Developing Nations Aid Commission. All countries are welcome to join the DNAC on the thread linked above. This declaration is intended for developing countries themselves.
29-07-2003, 12:26
Errinundera wishes to sign the declaration with the exception of the defence clause. (We do not have a defence force.)

We will also contribute to your Developing Nations Aid Commission in the appropriate forum.

overseasj
Errinundera's Protector of Foreign Affairs.
Tanah Burung
31-07-2003, 02:41
For information:

The board of the Developing Nations International Monetary Fund consists of representatives from:

Apollopoli
Hell Bovines
Iansisle
Larkinia
Tanah Burung
West Token
Ziobia
Iansisle
31-07-2003, 02:59
(I've updated the U.B.C. thread if you still want to use it for the IMF, but they don't deal in World Dollars, I'm afraid. Generals have the best rate of interest.)
Tanah Burung
31-07-2003, 03:10
Probably best to use another bank then. But thanks!
Lemmitania
31-07-2003, 04:03
The Governors' Council of Lemmitania has unanimously voted to sign the declaration, including the fifth clause. However, at present, Lemmitania is maintaining only a minimal standing army. We will respond to requests for military aid to the extent that we are able.

Peat Lemming
Governor-general
Borderlands of Lemmitania
Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
31-07-2003, 05:13
Encouraged by our comrades of Lemmitania, and deeming the objectives of this declaration noble and essential to the continuing resistance of developing states to the threat of dependency, the People's International Solidarity Committee of the Free Radicals of Mu-Mu has voted to sign the declaration, with the exception of Clause V - we have minimal defensive capacity (based on conventional deterrence akin to the Swiss model) and almost zero force projection ability.

Forward, comrades, to a brighter future!

People's International Solidarity Committee, People's Republic of the Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
31-07-2003, 05:44
We believe there may be some confusion. ... This declaration is intended for developing countries themselves.

My apologies. One of my underlings is apparently incapable of comprehending written English. I shall have him flogged immediately.

Duke Paolio
Foreign Affairs Minister
Los Lejanos
Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
01-08-2003, 05:46
Bumperoonie
Tanah Burung
02-08-2003, 06:30
Developing Nations signatories (parts 1-4)

Ariddia?
Centralis
Cho-to-ki
Errinundera
Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
Kai Tamarawa
Hell Bovines
Iansisle
Larkinia
Lemmitania
Neocong
Tanah Burung
West Token
Ziobia
Ariddia
03-08-2003, 12:45
The proposal having been put to the People's Prime Parliament, was passed in its whole with a majority of 87 votes out of 99, which is more than the minimum 75 necessary. The proposal of defence, however, was defered for the time being, as Ariddia has only a tiny army.
09-08-2003, 06:23
we have Superb civil rights,excellent political freedom,9M pop and an imploded economy...i assume we qualify to sign up? :P
09-08-2003, 19:28
no answer? :(
Tanah Burung
10-08-2003, 00:15
Certainly you qualify! Didnt see your post the first time around.
Tanah Burung
10-08-2003, 17:27
Ariddia
Centralis
Cho-to-ki
Cirdanistan
Errinundera
Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
Kai Tamarawa
Hell Bovines
Iansisle
Larkinia
Lemmitania
Neocong
Tanah Burung
West Token
Ziobia
imported_Betland
11-08-2003, 20:47
Most honourable nation of Tanah Burunq:

The nation of Betland would be proud to sign and join your pact of developing nations, and is only sorry that we do not have much money to contribute to your fund.

We have read your declaration, and find that is is a document very worthy of any nation that should accept it. We already meet all the education standards, but lack at technology.

We are always open to new ideas and technologies, however, and see your exchange of information as an excellent idea.

Councilman Rougen Vladikov
Tanah Burung
12-08-2003, 05:04
Welcome to the group. Thanks to a very generous donation of 300-billion World Dollars from Seocc, the Developing Nations IMF is not currently in need of donations. In fact, it is able to inject funds into member nations at a sustainable rate and thereby reduce aid dependence.
12-08-2003, 06:10
We find this proposal intrigueing to say the least.

But We do not care to change or increase Our technological level at this time.

Is it possible for Us to sign on without agreeing to Article II?

We are willing to agree to the Defense Clause, so far as our aid would be helpful.


Her Most Royal Highness
XenaKat I
Elected High Queen of the Free Land of Amazon Warriordom
12-08-2003, 06:16
A. This mainly depends on how you are role-playing it. If you have one or more of: a colonial past, low income, "backward" technology and such markers, then you are probably a developing country. It helps if your economy is reasonable or below. If you have already RP'ed yourself as a highly developed country, it's too late to change now.

We are definitely a third world country, but we are not interested in your aid if it means changing our traditional way of life. Your policy on human rights is merely a way to try to force us into a quasi-Western path of development.

Hear Hear!!!!!!!!
Tanah Burung
12-08-2003, 16:31
Amazon Warriordom: Nothing in the declaration binds your country to "develop" in any way your people do not wish to. You are very welcome to sign and decline to take part in the technology provisions. Any country may sign any number of clauses without signing them all.

Sentient Bats: Once again, there is no intent to force any country into any pre-set path of development. Tanah Burung, for one, completely rejects the path of Western capitalist "development."
Tanah Burung
12-08-2003, 23:59
Ariddia
Amazon Warriordom
Betland
Centralis
Cho-to-ki
Cirdanistan
Errinundera
Free Radicals of Mu-Mu
Kai Tamarawa
Hell Bovines
Iansisle
Larkinia
Lemmitania
Neocong
Tanah Burung
West Token
Ziobia
13-08-2003, 04:45
Amazon Warriordom: Nothing in the declaration binds your country to "develop" in any way your people do not wish to. You are very welcome to sign and decline to take part in the technology provisions. Any country may sign any number of clauses without signing them all.




We thank you for kindly clearing up Our confusion. We hereby confirm Our signature to this agreement, with the exception of Clause II...Technological Development.

Sincerely,
Her Most Royal Highness
XenaKat I
Elected High Queen of the Free Land of Amazon Warriordom
Tanah Burung
12-10-2003, 18:22
bump for use in near future...
Seocc
12-10-2003, 19:51
Perhaps, while this is being updated, we might be informed as to the fate of the 600BWD we donated to the DNCIMF.

MoE Frontdesk
Tanah Burung
12-10-2003, 21:16
This post ooc...

300 billion WD, i think it was -- which is of course still a huge amount!

The idea was that this fund would be drawn down gradually to serve capital needs of associated states and reduce the need for outside investment (and hence dependency on developed states). I'd say this -- like other things agreed on in Golden Agate -- has been happening in the background, but that most of the fund wouold still be there. Another developing nations conference will take place soon, which is why i bumped this thread.

This is all harder to do than it should be. In the real world, most countries are Third World. In NS, almost no one wants to RP a weakness, so only a small number act as "developing countries." I don't have an answer to this problem.