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After reviewing our naval forces it has become very aware to Naval Command that some variety of battleship/light carrier hybrid would be useful. The vessel would be similar to a much enlarged Kiev through deck cruiser, but with heavier weaponry, armor and able to launch CTOL aircraft from a mixture of catapaults and ramps. The vessel will fill many roles; surface combatant, marine support, force projection and cruise missile platform.

Many designs have already been submitted by various design bureaus across Haaregradia, all of which have a moderate sized flight deck, smaller then our Amon Amarth class carriers and heavy armament, somewhat heavier then our Lenin class battlecruisers. These will be by far the largest vessels in our service, with estimated gross weights of 150 000-175 000 tons displacement.

It is expected that these vessels will take one year to finish R&D, after a design is chosen. Additionally it will take approximately one year for construction as most of our shipyards are ending their military production and will be easily freed up. These ships will use as many off-the-shelf componants as possible, whether from large cruise ships, or from our own military vessels.

This class of vessels will be designated BCVN-1 and the first ship will most likely be named Marx.

OOC: If you need a Pic, I can make one for you... or I can let you use that supercarrier pic i had.
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/prometheus.jpg

No, no, I can make my own pic(as I like to do when I need one). Plus it's neither that much larger then a carrier, and all the designs only feature a partial deck. The lead design looks alot like the Kiev, if it was doubled and yeah... much bigger and better.

No, no, I can make my own pic(as I like to do when I need one). Plus it's neither that much larger then a carrier, and all the designs only feature a partial deck. The lead design looks alot like the Kiev, if it was doubled and yeah... much bigger and better.Alright, but if you need any help, I'm bored and i got lightwave and photoshop lol

No, no, I can make my own pic(as I like to do when I need one). Plus it's neither that much larger then a carrier, and all the designs only feature a partial deck. The lead design looks alot like the Kiev, if it was doubled and yeah... much bigger and better.Alright, but if you need any help, I'm bored and i got lightwave and photoshop lol

Thanks for the offer. :)

The contract was awarded to Lyulka Shipyards OKB, who have previously built some very large super-tankers and cruise ships, as well as manufacturing the Amon Amarth class carrier. Cost per unit is $4.9 billion.

BCVN 1
HNS Marx class Dreadnought

Displacement (tons): 174 640 tons
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 370 meters (1214') long overall
340 meters (1115'6") long at waterline
75 meters (250') beam
90 meters (300') width overall
12 (33'5")meters draft


Propulsion: 4 nuclear reactors, 8 screws
Crew: 1 200 + 900 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
16 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
12 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
8 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
64 Lancer cruise missile

Guns: 9x420mm bombardment cannon
12x125mm bombardment cannon
36x40mm AA cannon
36x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Air Wing:

Fighter: 12 F-33C Sniper fighter aircraft
24 FV-35A Joint Strike Fighter multirole fighter V/STOL aircraft
Attack: 12 A-24B Avenger tactical strike aircraft
12 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters
ASW: 4 S-24A Avenger ASW aircraft, 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Other: 2 E-24A Avenger AEW-C aircraft, 2 E-24B Avenger ECM aircraft
Total Air Wing: 72 Aircraft, 56 fixed wing, 16 rotary wing

OOC: Didn't the soviets order something like this in WWII called project X? I think it was fully converted by the U.S. to an escort carrier.

OOC: Didn't the soviets order something like this in WWII called project X? I think it was fully converted by the U.S. to an escort carrier.

No idea, this is like the Kiev, but far larger and more capable.

BUMP - picture coming soon

BCVN 1
HNS Marx class Dreadnought

Displacement (tons): 174 640 tons
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 370 meters (1214') long overall
340 meters (1115'6") long at waterline
75 meters (250') beam
90 meters (300') width overall
12 (33'5")meters draft


Propulsion: 6 nuclear reactors, 8 screws
Crew: 1 200 + 900 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
16 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
12 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
8 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
64 Sunburn cruise missile

Guns: 9x420mm bombardment cannon
10x125mm bombardment cannon
36x40mm AA cannon
36x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Air Wing:

Fighter: 12 F-33C Sniper fighter aircraft
24 FV-35 Joint Strike Fighter tactical fighter V/STOL aircraft
Attack: 12 A-24B Avenger tactical strike aircraft
12 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters
ASW: 4 S-24A Avenger ASW aircraft, 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Other: 2 E-24A Avenger AEW-C aircraft, 2 E-24B Avenger ECM aircraft
Total Air Wing: 72 Aircraft, 56 fixed wing, 16 rotary wing


Description:

Pan-Haaregradian Defence Institute and the Pan-Haaregradian Armed Forces: Naval Command issued a call for a large vessel capable of operating as both a battleship for ground bombardment and an aircraft carrier for force projection. It was believed a vessel of this nature would be able to both fight with devastating effectiveness and perhaps even be able to dominate the waters through fear of it's possible useage. The vessel was designed like most Haaregradian naval vessels are, tough as nails and covered with weapons. The armor is thicker then any comparable WWII vessel(USS Iowa for example) and uses newer, much stronger steel alloys. The vessel is very fast for a ship of it's size.

The Marx class dreadnought excels in many roles, however it is truely devestating as a marine support vessel. It can launch heavier aircraft then can Wasp class amphibious assualt carriers, and can provide the type of firepower needed to devestate enemy positions before the Marines land.

In the recent Haaregradian/Metropolis Industries war the vessels proved particularily devastating against smaller enemy ships that had become pinned in their harbour.

The Marx class dreadnought was designed and produced by Lyulka Shipyards OKB, who previously designed numerous other vessels for the Haaregradian Naval Command, along with several large tankers, cargo ships and cruiseliners.
The total cost of R&D on the vessel is currently classified and the cost per unit for Haaregradian Naval Command is also classified.

Price for foreign sales is $5 250 000 000USD. This price is also pending approval for export.
Time to build is 1 year NS(however long you play a year as).

Picture is below
http://haaregradia.20megsfree.com/images/bcvn01marx.jpg
http://haaregradia.20megsfree.com/bcvn01marx.html

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Sorry bout that, I'm gonna find a new server soon.

bump - the picture works now

Edit: it doesn't work anymore...

God, I wish I had enough left in the naval acquisition budget to afford one. i once designed a similar type of ship, but it neve made it to production. It was also a lot smaller, and so carrier performance was compromised substantially. I imagine it would make a nice complement to my two prince henry class carriers. I don't suppose you offer hire purchase? also, i'm looking for countries with shipyards to contract out the building of several new corvettes and destroyers. I was originally planning to open it only to my region, but it might be easier if I opened it to experienced manufacturers.

God, I wish I had enough left in the naval acquisition budget to afford one. i once designed a similar type of ship, but it neve made it to production. It was also a lot smaller, and so carrier performance was compromised substantially. I imagine it would make a nice complement to my two prince henry class carriers. I don't suppose you offer hire purchase? also, i'm looking for countries with shipyards to contract out the building of several new corvettes and destroyers. I was originally planning to open it only to my region, but it might be easier if I opened it to experienced manufacturers.

We could build you some corvettes, frigates, destroyers... anything really.

We've build a couple of these so far, then again we spend alot on the military and are the prime naval power in the region.(OOC: if any of my region members care to disagree do tell)

I'll put up stats for my corvette and frigate and destroyer.

PHC-6 Azrael class Corvette

Displacement (tons): 950 tons
Speed (kts): 54 knots
Dimensions (m): 58 meters long
12 meters beam
Propulsion: 2 gas. turbines; 70 000 hp; 3x2 (+1+1) props
Crew: 35
Armament:
Missiles: 2 x 4 Harpoon or Mako missiles
1 SA-11 Archer SAM system(based on AA-11 Archer AAM)
Guns: 1x85mm cannon
4x40mm AAcannon

FFG-12 King class Frigate

Displacement (tons): 4 761 tons
Speed (kts): 54 knots
Dimensions (m): 135 meters long
16.4 meters beam
Propulsion: 2 gas. turbines; 70 000 hp; 3x2 (+1+1) props
Crew: 215
Armament:
Missiles: 2 x 4 Harpoon or Mako missiles
1 SA-11 Archer SAM system(based on AA-11 Archer AAM)
Guns: 1x85mm cannon
4x40mm AAcannon
2x25mm GAU-25-3 CIWS

Torpedos: 4x325mm torpedo tubes

actually, i've designed the ships myself, but need someone with shipyards to construct them. you would gain full access to the specs and plans and so could build some for your own use if you liked them. I'll post up the specs if you're interested and you can give me a quote on expected production costs. all specialized weapons would be supplied.

actually, i've designed the ships myself, but need someone with shipyards to construct them. you would gain full access to the specs and plans and so could build some for your own use if you liked them. I'll post up the specs if you're interested and you can give me a quote on expected production costs. all specialized weapons would be supplied.
Most certainly, officials from Lyulka Shipyards OKB will be in contact with you shortly.

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BUMP if you like big boats.

Can I get it on Hire-purchase? please...
*looks wistfully at large model in store window*

Hatchetfish class corvette:
77mlong, 9m wide 4m draught.
2 orca SAM arrays (supplied, similar to seawolf)
skywatch airsearch radar
low sieve seasearch radar
5 20mm CIWS mountings
4 SeaMidget Chaff systems (supplied)
ECM suite capable of masking most normal targeters.
4 Siren missiles
2 Highpole A IFF systems
Combat Integration system.
Palm Frond navigation system
Speed to be 26kts or higher

Vampire Class Corvette:
As above, but sirens replaced by 4 automatic dual purpose 76mm single turrets (fibreglass)

Puffin Class Corvette:
same hull as others, with
2x turrets as above
2 Ikara systems, with targeting systems
BQR15 sonar
USSR 7 sonar
Skywatch air search radar.
Low sieve Sea search radar
Fountain Missile system (supplied, same weight as orca)
1030 model targeter for fountain (supplied)
Helipad for landing of small helicopters, such as seasprites.
2 Highpole A IFF systems
Combat Integration system.
Palm Frond navigation system
Speed to be at least 37kts

Hagfish ASW frigate:
111m long, 14m wide, 4m draught.
BQR15 sonar
Tamir 5L sonar
170b sonar
helipad & hangar for Small chopper.
Sea giraffe radar
Fountain missile system and targeter (both supplied)
10 Estoille missile tubes (supplied, similar weight and dimensions to starfish)
2 Highpole A IFF systems
Combat Integration system.
Palm Frond navigation system
Speed to be at least 37 kts

Please give me an estimate of costings, time to manufacture and quantity able to be produced.

Ell congratualates Soviet Haaregrad on their new techonology.

Can I get it on Hire-purchase? please...
*looks wistfully at large model in store window*

Hatchetfish class corvette:
77mlong, 9m wide 4m draught.
2 orca SAM arrays (supplied, similar to seawolf)
skywatch airsearch radar
low sieve seasearch radar
5 20mm CIWS mountings
4 SeaMidget Chaff systems (supplied)
ECM suite capable of masking most normal targeters.
4 Siren missiles
2 Highpole A IFF systems
Combat Integration system.
Palm Frond navigation system
Speed to be 26kts or higher

Vampire Class Corvette:
As above, but sirens replaced by 4 automatic dual purpose 76mm single turrets (fibreglass)

Puffin Class Corvette:
same hull as others, with
2x turrets as above
2 Ikara systems, with targeting systems
BQR15 sonar
USSR 7 sonar
Skywatch air search radar.
Low sieve Sea search radar
Fountain Missile system (supplied, same weight as orca)
1030 model targeter for fountain (supplied)
Helipad for landing of small helicopters, such as seasprites.
2 Highpole A IFF systems
Combat Integration system.
Palm Frond navigation system
Speed to be at least 37kts

Hagfish ASW frigate:
111m long, 14m wide, 4m draught.
BQR15 sonar
Tamir 5L sonar
170b sonar
helipad & hangar for Small chopper.
Sea giraffe radar
Fountain missile system and targeter (both supplied)
10 Estoille missile tubes (supplied, similar weight and dimensions to starfish)
2 Highpole A IFF systems
Combat Integration system.
Palm Frond navigation system
Speed to be at least 37 kts

Please give me an estimate of costings, time to manufacture and quantity able to be produced.

Puffin class corvette: $52 000 000 (2 months)
other corvettes $35 000 000(6 weeks)
Hagfish class frigate $85 000 000(11 weeks)

done! I am placing an immediate order for 30 vampire, 30 hatchetfish, 10 hagfish and no less than 50 puffins

bump for sales

hello again!
Can we buy 5 Marx class dreadnaught (30days realtime is a lot of saving up at 1 month per day.) even so we will be paying them one at a time. (payment in advance of each ship.)