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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:17
Is your nation struggeling or in economic hell well then look at this. We can loan you money ship you medical supplies,water,food Etc.

YOU DONT HAVE TO MEET THESE REQUIRMENTS FOR HELP JUST ASK
The Union Of Economic Help

This alliance will not interfear with any alliance your in.
It is just for economic help to yourself or to loan money to smaller nations.

YOU DONT HAVE TO MEET THESE REQUIRMENTS FOR HELP JUST ASK
Rules
1. You must have a pop over 400 million
2. Any loan you give to a smaller nation must not be for WMD's
3. You must pay back any money you borrow from people in the alliance
4. You must be active in the boards
6. You must have at least a good economy.


Union Of Economic Helps Money Reserves: 102,100,300,000,000

Founder
Rodriquezland Economy: Frightening

Members
The Sean Empire Economy: Thriving
Haraki Economy: Frightening
Talkos Economy: Powerhouse
Mega Tau Economy: Powerhouse
Headpiece Economy: Frightening
The Mindset Economy: Good
Crimmond Economy: Frightening
Well Being Economy: Good
The Outlands Economy: Good
Xanthal Economy: Thriving
Sketch Economy: Frightening
Milesia Economy: Frightening
Ragnorkie Economy: Frightening
Beav Economy: Powerhouse
Westrogoticae Economy: Frightening

President: The Sean Empire
Recruiter: Talkos
Banker: Headpiece
DAI: Beav

Loan Borrowing Classifications
Humanitarian Aid/Disaster Relief
Infrastructure Improvement
Economic Improvement
Scientific Studies
Military Improvement

Nations Owing Money With 10% Interest
Glenn Someone: 15,000 Over all owes: 16,500 Reason Borrowed: Economic Improvement
Xanthal: 5,000,000,000,000 Over all owes: 5,500,000,000,000 Reason Borrowed: Infrastructure Imporvement
Septinx: 10,000,000,000 Over All Owes: 11,000,000,000 Reason Borrowed: Military Improvement


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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:22
Comments anything?
12-07-2003, 02:23
i always pay cash... no trace that way :P





... wait :?
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:26
i always pay cash... no trace that way :P





... wait :?

Would you join when your pop gets 900 Mill or is this just a dumb idea.


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12-07-2003, 02:30
let me think about it... no.
my economy is good, no need for a loan... well... except if the judges can reach me even where i am.
heh heh i'll give it a thought then.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:31
let me think about it... no.
my economy is good, no need for a loan... well... except if the judges can reach me even where i am.
heh heh i'll give it a thought then.

Well perhaps we could change the alliance to give loans to smaller nations that way we could always have extra money from them paying us back.


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12-07-2003, 02:32
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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:32
*feels small*

You will get there.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:35
Do you think this is an over all good idea?


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12-07-2003, 02:36
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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:36
I like the idea.

Really?

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12-07-2003, 02:37
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Talkos
12-07-2003, 02:43
Sounds like a good idea, but perhaps non-military help would be a better way to go. Help with tech and infrastructure, and of course humanitarian aid. If a small nation wants 4000 tanks I would worry, I would rather we be called in to help defend them against imperialist takeover, than watch them roll over their neighbors with the tanks we provided. Ohh well, the premise is good, just need to flesh out the details.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:43
Ok there is the rules what should I add or take away?


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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:45
Sounds like a good idea, but perhaps non-military help would be a better way to go. Help with tech and infrastructure, and of course humanitarian aid. If a small nation wants 4000 tanks I would worry, I would rather we be called in to help defend them against imperialist takeover, than watch them roll over their neighbors with the tanks we provided. Ohh well, the premise is good, just need to flesh out the details.

Good idea.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:46
I have changed it to 400 million instead of 900 million.

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12-07-2003, 02:47
I'm interested.........
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:48
I'm interested.........

Really?

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12-07-2003, 02:49
I'm interested.........

Really?

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Yeah. When I say something I mean it.
12-07-2003, 02:51
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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:51
I'm interested.........

Really?

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Yeah. When I say something I mean it.

Sorry :roll:


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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:52
If you guys wanna join you can.

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12-07-2003, 02:52
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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:53
Ah, what the heck, might as well. :)

Ok cool.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:55
If I get enough people I will make jobs like recruiter and stuff if you are interested.

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12-07-2003, 02:56
I just joined.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 02:57
I just joined.

Ok got ya.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:01
Ok I still need help on improving the alliance anybody got ideas anybody?


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12-07-2003, 03:02
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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:03
I hope more people join.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:07
Is this that bad of an idea?

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Talkos
12-07-2003, 03:14
Well, you can count us in...It's just that most people aren't altruistic. This ideal doesn't give joining nations much incentive, other than respect, and prestiege. I personally think it a good thing that these nations here were not motivated by greed or self interest. I'm sure as more people read this more people will give their support, it has only been a short while since ya posted.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:15
Well, you can count us in...It's just that most people aren't altruistic. This ideal doesn't give joining nations much incentive, other than respect, and prestiege. I personally think it a good thing that these nations here were not motivated by greed or self interest. I'm sure as more people read this more people will give their support, it has only been a short while since ya posted.

Thank you.

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12-07-2003, 03:16
I have a puppet nation over 500 million...I don't use it much though, because I prefer this one...is that all right?

nation is called Ok Bob (purchased for 50 billion USD :D)
12-07-2003, 03:17
We would like to join up please. This is a good opportunity to help out smaller nations who are struggling.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:17
I have a puppet nation over 500 million...I don't use it much though, because I prefer this one...is that all right?

nation is called Ok Bob (purchased for 50 billion USD :D)

Well if you use actively.


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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:18
We would like to join up please. This is a good opportunity to help out smaller nations who are struggling.

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Got ya.
12-07-2003, 03:20
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12-07-2003, 03:21
Thanks Rodriquezland.

The MT Government is considering not charging interest on loans made by us to smaller nations.

Ambassador, Lady Andrea
12-07-2003, 03:21
I have a puppet nation over 500 million...I don't use it much though, because I prefer this one...is that all right?

nation is called Ok Bob (purchased for 50 billion USD :D)

Well if you use actively.


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I realy only use this (almost 300 million). Ok Bob has 10 posts (or 11, close to it). don't really like it, my favorite is this one. :D
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:22
Thanks Rodriquezland.

The MT Government is considering not charging interest on loans made by us to smaller nations.

Ambassador, Lady Andrea

Well you can just really low.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:30
bump
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:34
Thanks for joining guys.

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12-07-2003, 03:35
what about me, am I in?
12-07-2003, 03:35
Japann is interested...
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:37
Your pops guys.

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DNS
12-07-2003, 03:37
DNS will join, we will need money soon for another spacestation.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:39
DNS will join, we will need money soon for another spacestation.

Read the rules man.

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12-07-2003, 03:39
Your pops guys.

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damn, Ok Bob doesn't cut it?

makes sense

thanks anyways
12-07-2003, 03:39
What does Japann do to join...
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:40
Your pops guys.

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damn, Ok Bob doesn't cut it?

makes sense

thanks anyways

You are welcome to join when your pop comes up.

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12-07-2003, 03:40
ya see ya in 17 days or so...
DNS
12-07-2003, 03:41
Why does the pop have to be that high?

Littler countries need money too...
12-07-2003, 03:41
436 million, Japann, not me...
12-07-2003, 03:41
So, how to join...
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:42
Why does the pop have to be that high?

Littler countries need money too...

Take a loan from us. That is a major part of this alliance to help little nations.


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12-07-2003, 03:44
Sooo... do I just ask for money?
Headpiece
12-07-2003, 03:44
Im definitly willing to help out in this alliance if Im welcome
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:44
Sooo... do I just ask for money?

Well you have to pay it back along the line.

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The Mindset
12-07-2003, 03:44
Our population is well within limits and our economy is such that we can provide, and pay back loans. Does this make us a member if we were to commit?
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:45
Im definitly willing to help out in this alliance if Im welcome

You are very welcome. So are you in.

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12-07-2003, 03:45
Sooo... do I just ask for money?

Well you have to pay it back along the line.

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Well that's easy enough...
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:45
Sooo... do I just ask for money?

Well you have to pay it back along the line.

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Well that's easy enough...

Yah. You should also t-gram me telling me that you borrowed money.

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The Mindset
12-07-2003, 03:46
Is there to be a fixed interest rate on loans?
Headpiece
12-07-2003, 03:46
Im definitly willing to help out in this alliance if Im welcome

You are very welcome. So are you in.

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Im in Rodriquezland. Its a very good idea
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:47
Is there to be a fixed interest rate on loans?

Well I dont know if you want to join maby you could help me on that.

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Talkos
12-07-2003, 03:47
Why does the pop have to be that high?

Littler countries need money too...

Yes, little countries are the ones who need the money. The ones in this Union will be the ones who are loaning the money for the most part. Though there will be some inter-alliance cash flow for short term economic balance, we believe that most money will be flowing out from the alliance, to the smaller nations.
The Mindset
12-07-2003, 03:48
I thought i was already in :P
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:49
I thought i was already in :P

Oh sorry I guess you are :lol:

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12-07-2003, 03:49
I think it'd be fun for RP if the borrowing nations laid out a (brief) "business-plan" of what they plan to use the money for. Then, it would be *great* if they pursued an RP thread that dealt with how they disbursed the loan and how they repaid it.

I'm considering joining.
12-07-2003, 03:50
I'm in right.

How do I borrow money.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:51
Ok guys iam opening spots so far I have

President: Second in command
Recruiter: In charge of bumoing this subject and recruiteng
Banker: Handles the money

If that is ok anybody want to do them.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:51
I think it'd be fun for RP if the borrowing nations laid out a (brief) "business-plan" of what they plan to use the money for. Then, it would be *great* if they pursued an RP thread that dealt with how they disbursed the loan and how they repaid it.

I'm considering joining.

good good hope you do.

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12-07-2003, 03:52
I'll be any position.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:52
I'm in right.

How do I borrow money.

How much do you need and what for.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:53
I'll be any position.

How bout banker. If you are that how much should interest be?

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12-07-2003, 03:53
I need money to boost my economy...
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:54
I need money to boost my economy...

How much?


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Headpiece
12-07-2003, 03:54
Im in for a postion too. You should obviously head it Rod since its your idea. As for my resume, Im the minister of finance right now in my region of 200 people and deal with things on a daily basis. Good idea for the RP too.
12-07-2003, 03:55
I'll be any position.

How bout banker. If you are that how much should interest be?

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depends on the loan. For big loans less or they won't pay it back. Small ones about 10%.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 03:55
Im in for a postion too. You should obviously head it Rod since its your idea. As for my resume, Im the minister of finance right now in my region of 200 people and deal with things on a daily basis. Good idea for the RP too.

So do you wanna be banker?

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12-07-2003, 03:56
I need money to boost my economy...

How much?


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I Tgrammed you and said 15,000. I'm not sure how much I really need though.
Talkos
12-07-2003, 03:59
If you need us, feel free to assign us a position. Yes, good planning and structure is essential to the loan plans.....hmmm as for the interest rates, they should either all be fixed, or be set by what the money is being used for, humanitarian aid and the like being lowest, with scientific developments being on the higher end, but if you think it would be better to keep it simple just go with something that won't induce to go bankrupt before they can pay it back.
12-07-2003, 03:59
Back tomorrow to sort this out.
Headpiece
12-07-2003, 03:59
Im in for a postion too. You should obviously head it Rod since its your idea. As for my resume, Im the minister of finance right now in my region of 200 people and deal with things on a daily basis. Good idea for the RP too.

So do you wanna be banker?

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Well Someone got to it first so its his if he wants it.. if not, Ill take it
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:00
Im in for a postion too. You should obviously head it Rod since its your idea. As for my resume, Im the minister of finance right now in my region of 200 people and deal with things on a daily basis. Good idea for the RP too.

So do you wanna be banker?

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Well Someone got to it first so its his if he wants it.. if not, Ill take it

You got it.

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Headpiece
12-07-2003, 04:08
well alright then. So first off, we need to compile a list of whos in the alliance as the "parent countries". We can compile their populations and economic strengths, and then start advertising for whoever needs loans, and decide as a group, who should get what, and for what interest rates. If they don't like the interest rates... then they don't get a loan! That way we can make acceptions in extreme cases of humanitarian aid where the countries have to pay back very little.
Headpiece
12-07-2003, 04:12
Im getting off here, but Ill be back on all day tomorrow ( My job is soooo rough :) ) So T-gram me with any developments.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:21
well alright then. So first off, we need to compile a list of whos in the alliance as the "parent countries". We can compile their populations and economic strengths, and then start advertising for whoever needs loans, and decide as a group, who should get what, and for what interest rates. If they don't like the interest rates... then they don't get a loan! That way we can make acceptions in extreme cases of humanitarian aid where the countries have to pay back very little.

I got the economy part done.

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Talkos
12-07-2003, 04:25
well alright then. So first off, we need to compile a list of whos in the alliance as the "parent countries". We can compile their populations and economic strengths, and then start advertising for whoever needs loans, and decide as a group, who should get what, and for what interest rates. If they don't like the interest rates... then they don't get a loan! That way we can make acceptions in extreme cases of humanitarian aid where the countries have to pay back very little.

Perhaps it would be best to devise a system where we don't need to call a meeting every time an issue comes up. A system of regulation and such, would cut down on response time and, well irritation. It would also allow the Union to continue its work during the down times of the day...though it will be a complicated task in the short term it will pay off if we intend to exist for any amount of time, you have our complete confidence.

As it seems that nobody has stepped up, we'll take Recruiter, unless of course Rodriquezland had someone else in mind.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:35
well alright then. So first off, we need to compile a list of whos in the alliance as the "parent countries". We can compile their populations and economic strengths, and then start advertising for whoever needs loans, and decide as a group, who should get what, and for what interest rates. If they don't like the interest rates... then they don't get a loan! That way we can make acceptions in extreme cases of humanitarian aid where the countries have to pay back very little.

Perhaps it would be best to devise a system where we don't need to call a meeting every time an issue comes up. A system of regulation and such, would cut down on response time and, well irritation. It would also allow the Union to continue its work during the down times of the day...though it will be a complicated task in the short term it will pay off if we intend to exist for any amount of time, you have our complete confidence.

As it seems that nobody has stepped up, we'll take Recruiter, unless of course Rodriquezland had someone else in mind.

I like that idea and you got recruiter.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:41
I'd like a position.

OOC: I didnt notice my economy was up to Thriving.

Just keeps gettin better. :D

How is presidnet second in command dun dun duhhh!

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:44
Wow...I'm flattered. I'll take it. :D


You got it.

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:47
We still need members. anybody else wanna join?


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Talkos
12-07-2003, 04:48
Well, I think we should get all get each other in our Dossier, unless we want to count on the fickle will of the forum gods.

And we should start to compile the classifications of need for the loans. So far what we can think of is:
Humanitarian Aid/Disaster Relief
Infrastructure Improvement
Economic Improvement
Scientific Studies

and hopefully yall can think of more, we'll talk at yas tomorrow.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 04:50
Well, I think we should get all get each other in our Dossier, unless we want to count on the fickle will of the forum gods.

And we should start to compile the classifications of need for the loans. So far what we can think of is:
Humanitarian Aid/Disaster Relief
Infrastructure Improvement
Economic Improvement
Scientific Studies

and hopefully yall can think of more, we'll talk at yas tomorrow.

good idea got it.

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12-07-2003, 05:02
bump

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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 05:32
We are looking for allinaces with other alliances.


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Crimmond
12-07-2003, 05:46
I'll join. I always have tons of money left over in my GDP that I just put to my military R&D and commerce. Frightening economy for two and a half months.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 05:50
I'll join. I always have tons of money left over in my GDP that I just put to my military R&D and commerce. Frightening economy for two and a half months.

Your in!
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 06:02
We still need new members all over 400 million are welcome!


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12-07-2003, 08:19
How about setting up a union bank account where member nations can deposit funds/donations. Then the Banker issuing the loans to nations draws the funds from there. We suggest offering borrowing nations a few months interest free, say the first 12 months, then afterwards an interest rate of 1-2% to pay any admin costs etc, (we personally would prefer not charging interest).

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Well Being
12-07-2003, 09:04
Well Being inc. would like to join your alliance, but we would need to be able to forgive any debts incurred to our corporation by any smaller nation.
Talkos
12-07-2003, 14:16
How about setting up a union bank account where member nations can deposit funds/donations. Then the Banker issuing the loans to nations draws the funds from there. We suggest offering borrowing nations a few months interest free, say the first 12 months, then afterwards an interest rate of 1-2% to pay any admin costs etc, (we personally would prefer not charging interest).


Well, that'd be simpler at least. <shrugs> I think this is going to need to be up to the banker, and how much work load they can handle, but we're all for setting up a Union money pool.

:wink: first propaganda post.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51192
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 16:12
Alright how bout banker makes the account thread :wink:
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 16:15
Well Being inc. would like to join your alliance, but we would need to be able to forgive any debts incurred to our corporation by any smaller nation.


Well your in

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12-07-2003, 16:36
I'll jump in as a lender nation. I like the way things are going so far and the semi-charted course looks good.

What about repayment via "preferred trade" status rather than straight monetary repayment? Also, should borrower nations bring their economic issues to the lender nations for decisions until their pitiful economies improve tio a certain level?

As for other alliances, Los Lejanos (the Outlands, but in Spanish) has a domestic charity, Las Hermanas de Nuestra Senora de Merced. They would be interested in participating in any humanitarian/disaster-relief operations in conjunction with our organization.
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 16:36
Did you open the account thread yet banker?


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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 16:40
I'll jump in as a lender nation. I like the way things are going so far and the semi-charted course looks good.

What about repayment via "preferred trade" status rather than straight monetary repayment? Also, should borrower nations bring their economic issues to the lender nations for decisions until their pitiful economies improve tio a certain level?

As for other alliances, Los Lejanos (the Outlands, but in Spanish) has a domestic charity, Las Hermanas de Nuestra Senora de Merced. They would be interested in participating in any humanitarian/disaster-relief operations in conjunction with our organization.

cool your in.


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Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 17:10
bump



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12-07-2003, 17:30
As a side-note, Los Lejanos has a delegation attending the Conference on Trade With Fragile Economies (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49515&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) being hosted by Lavenrunz. I'm sure the minutes of that meeting would make extremely pertinent reading for members of the UEH.
Xanthal
12-07-2003, 17:32
I'll join. My population would be over 400 million if it weren't for that stupid bug in the game...
Rodriquezland
12-07-2003, 17:40
I'll join. My population would be over 400 million if it weren't for that stupid bug in the game...

Alright ill trust that it would be.



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Headpiece
13-07-2003, 00:18
Im back! I like the idea of having the money be interest free for a few months but I think we're going to have to put up a list of regulations ASAP. I think there should be different interest rates for scientific and military assistance and say, humanitarian and disaster aid. Im going to compile a list right now of countries involved in this alliance and their economic strengths. Then we can decide how much money should be put into our "account" and Ill make a new thread.
Headpiece
13-07-2003, 00:24
hmmm...maybe I should have looked at the beginning of the thread first. : :roll:
Talkos
13-07-2003, 01:28
Well, if this looks to be as complicated as it seems perhaps we would need whole forum for it lol.

Well, the Dominion of Talkos can spare, well quite alot, so we can throw into the pot whatever is necessary to get it going, so just tell us what you need to start the bank. And yea, looking through the rest of the thread is always a good idea :wink: Well, good thing it looks like we have a capable banker.
Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 03:02
Yah that is a good thing.


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Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 04:04
bumpage!
Apollopoli
13-07-2003, 04:22
For interested developing nations, Apollopoli has created an aid commission where funds are given solely as aid rather than loans (meaning repayments aren't expected). A whole description and rough charter is located here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=892485
Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 04:28
For interested developing nations, Apollopoli has created an aid commission where funds are given solely as aid rather than loans (meaning repayments aren't expected). A whole description and rough charter is located here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=892485


Would you like to ally?

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Well Being
13-07-2003, 04:45
I see, Rodriquezland, that you are a member of the European Red Cross. Please check out my (old) thread "Poor? Need Help?" and see if you can put in a good word for me.
I'm happy to donate cash but, as Well Being inc. was founded to produce low-cost emergency and humanitarian aid products, I would probably be better equipped to donate lots of tents and food and stuff. I would appreciate it if the members of this alliance could tell me about other allances of this sort like the one Apollopoli mentioned. I've got a LOT of tents, trained humanitarian aid workers and such and will send them to anyone needing help.
Thanks,
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Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 05:36
Give me a link to it to lazy to look for it. Just got done working out.

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Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 21:20
bump
Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 21:32
I will change the rules to that we can give money to nations for weapons but not for WMD's

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Milesia
13-07-2003, 21:49
We would be interested in joining this organisation. It's would be, hopefully, a good replacement idea for the World Bank which kinda tanked there a good bit ago.

Just let us know of any specific conditions as I read the opening post and kinda skipped ahead ;)


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13-07-2003, 21:51
this doesnt make sinse,


this is a organization for economical health, but you will not let anyone join unless they have a "good" economy...how do you reallly help anyone if they are already one their two feet
Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 21:52
this doesnt make sinse,


this is a organization for economical health, but you will not let anyone join unless they have a "good" economy...how do you reallly help anyone if they are already one their two feet

Ok people in the alliance are the ones who help people. If you need help you dont have to join you ask.

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13-07-2003, 21:56
this doesnt make sinse,


this is a organization for economical health, but you will not let anyone join unless they have a "good" economy...how do you reallly help anyone if they are already one their two feet

Ok people in the alliance are the ones who help people. If you need help you dont have to join you ask.

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o thank you for the clarification, i would join, but dont meet the requirments...thats ok tho
Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 22:09
this doesnt make sinse,


this is a organization for economical health, but you will not let anyone join unless they have a "good" economy...how do you reallly help anyone if they are already one their two feet

Ok people in the alliance are the ones who help people. If you need help you dont have to join you ask.

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o thank you for the clarification, i would join, but dont meet the requirments...thats ok tho

Well do you need some money to boost your military or something.

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Milesia
13-07-2003, 22:13
...am I accepted or what's the situation? *points up several posts*
Rodriquezland
13-07-2003, 22:15
...am I accepted or what's the situation? *points up several posts*

Oh yah.

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Xanthal
14-07-2003, 01:56
The U.S.S.X. i interested in borrowing $5,000,000,000,000 USD from any nation(s) willing to help. Refrence for reason here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51715
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 02:39
Ok well I will ask the other members. Thats 5 Trillion right?

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14-07-2003, 02:42
Ok once you reply to this I will wire the money.


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14-07-2003, 02:54
As part of our deliberation on your request, Los Lejanos requests permission to review your station plans by engineers from RASEC (Royal Atmospheric & Space Exploration Comission). I also need to inform you that your nation is currently being reviewed by a Joint Special Intelligence Commission.
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 03:11
Do you mean for his spacestation.


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14-07-2003, 03:23
Im requesting a sticky this would be a good replacment for the world bank.


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14-07-2003, 03:24
Yes. I believe his request for funding is tied to his intent to develop a moon-orbiting spacestation. Given the technological edge such a development would represent militarily, King Ricardo I has convened a Joint Special Intelligence Commission to review the diplomatic aspects of such a project. As such, I anticipate a list of interrogatories to be forthcoming before Los Lejanos can participate in such a venture.
Xanthal
14-07-2003, 03:38
I'm replying to confirm my request for $5 trillion dollars. If you wish to observe go ahead. We have no intention to arm the station. We will pay back the loan at a rate of $100,000,000,000 a (RTS: day), to be fully repayed in (RTS: 55 days).
14-07-2003, 03:48
I see our JSIC-X has formally posted their request for information on Xanthal's station thread...
Talkos
14-07-2003, 03:48
The Dominion of Talkos believes that their assertion that they are building the space station for peaceful scientific means. This, along with the fact that they will allow international observers to participate in order to ensure that the station's primary purpose is not military, any more than an earth-based research facility or airport convinces us of their intentions.

We see no reason why such an endevour should be denied our support.
14-07-2003, 03:51
Thank you for addressing a repayment schedule. If I may, what sort of income-stream are you generating that allows you to make these repayments? I would expect with the massive outlay required, your government would be looking to make smaller payments over a longer period of time, waiting until the station begins generating revenue.
Xanthal
14-07-2003, 03:57
The income being routed to the payback of the loan will come primarily from funds generated from UTP trade and secondarily from taxation.
14-07-2003, 04:06
The JSIC *did* make mention of your "punitive income tax rates," yes...

What is "UTP" and how are you active in it?

Is USSX willing to put the station up as collateral against the loan's repayment? I am encouraged by your country being ranked as a "thriving economy" by the UN, but we do need to cover our bases.
Xanthal
14-07-2003, 04:13
As there are three backups regarding means to repay this organization, we are confident enough to put up 50% ownership of the station (a ten trillion dollar project) as collateral. The UTP (Ur Trade Pact) is a trade organization. This is the organization's site: http://invisionfree.com/forums/UTP/index.php?
14-07-2003, 04:37
Unfortunately, once I accessed the site, I was unable to search based on country name. Could you provide two or three examples of trade-agreements your country is party to? Links to UTP threads will suffice.
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 04:52
I'm replying to confirm my request for $5 trillion dollars. If you wish to observe go ahead. We have no intention to arm the station. We will pay back the loan at a rate of $100,000,000,000 a (RTS: day), to be fully repayed in (RTS: 55 days).

Money is yours hey and try to reccomend this alliance :wink:
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14-07-2003, 04:56
Eh-heh. Well, I've not yet endorsed the loan myself, but whatever you think - I'm here to RP a fun system, not to take over anybody's brain-child.

(odds are looking good, though, that approval is forthcoming soon)
14-07-2003, 04:58
Just outta curiosty, who donated the hundred trillion?
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 04:59
Just outta curiosty, who donated the hundred trillion?

Well I have been planning this since 3 months ago so I just saved it out of my national budget. Also a nation called BOOTS AND BOOBS donates alot to.


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14-07-2003, 05:25
bump anybody gonna reply to this?


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14-07-2003, 07:08
Well, to lessen the load on our founding member, and since our banker hasn't opened up a thread that we could throw money into. The Dominion of Talkos will transfer a trillion to help cover the loan.
Well Being
14-07-2003, 09:46
Well Being will throw $300 million into the pot. More may be forthcoming after I talk to our donors. I'm interested in Outlands report on the military importance of the station. If this alliance is determined to donate funds for military improvement, we will be forced to donate on a case-by-case basis to only peaceful nations or withdraw.
Rodriguezland: here's the link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7688)
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 11:58
We thank you for your donations.
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14-07-2003, 13:42
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14-07-2003, 14:02
Your money has been added.

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14-07-2003, 17:41
Thank you all for donating and bump we still need new members.


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14-07-2003, 17:47
I posed this question to the Crown's "pet scientists:"

Given a space-station/platform in orbit around the moon, how viable would such be as an "icbm" launch-platform? What would be the "ETA" of such a launch?

and Dr. Pauli Hakala offered the following reply:
Using a Hohmann Transfer Orbit, about 5 days.

Slight rocket burn to launch the nuclear missile from lunar orbit at
first (could also be done while the missile is on the dark side of the
moon), and another short burn from Earth orbit 5 days later to guide
it down onto it's target.

Note that such a missile would be a lot smaller than modern ICBM
designs, because it needs a lot less fuel and acceleration. Would
work quite well with MIRV warheads.


Based on Dr. Hakala's comments, the Crown's JSIC-X feels the station's usefulness as a military strike-platform would be of limited utility. As such, I have been instructed to give my approval to the loan.

I understand we're waiting on the Crown Exchequer to conduct a review of the national accounts before transferring money into the UEH account.
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 17:53
Well we would be pleased for the donation.

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14-07-2003, 18:05
Our profitable trade agreements include:
- A hundred trillion dollar transfer of tritanium to Ur an ass.
- Transfer of various military goods over a period of several decades amounting to tens of trillions of dollars.
14-07-2003, 18:31
I am pleased to announce Los Lejanos has transferred the sum of $1 trillion into the UEH account.

Banker? How much do we have on deposit now?
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 18:39
We have more than a hundred trillion dollars in our money reserves.

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14-07-2003, 21:33
Bump still need members peoples.


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Ragnorkie
14-07-2003, 22:57
I will join to.
Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 22:58
I will join to.

ok your in!

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Rodriquezland
14-07-2003, 23:12
Thank you for joining!

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Rodriquezland
15-07-2003, 00:29
Bump still need members and we need to give more loans!

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15-07-2003, 02:14
We are pleased to say that we will take part in this economic construction and help less fortunate Nations onto their feet.

Sincerely, (and for the time being, a bit anonymous but nevertheless with authority) Westrogoticae
Rodriquezland
15-07-2003, 02:28
Bump

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15-07-2003, 02:52
The Commonwealth of Ummagumma needs some relife supplies.
Rodriquezland
15-07-2003, 02:56
Like what? We will ship immediatley what you need.

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Rodriquezland
15-07-2003, 04:00
bump

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Talkos
15-07-2003, 05:40
Just another BUMP in the night. Though it looks like our banker has gone MIA, ahhh well.
15-07-2003, 10:14
We are pleased to say that we will take part in this economic construction and help less fortunate Nations onto their feet.

Sincerely, (and for the time being, a bit anonymous but nevertheless with authority) Westrogoticae

Sorry about eventual confusion. We use a rouge state as a decoy sometimes.

W
15-07-2003, 15:49
They mainley need food and water (so they wont have to eat any more felow humans).
Rodriquezland
15-07-2003, 19:09
Rodriquezland will begin dropping food and water over your nation.

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15-07-2003, 20:09
As Secretary of the Department of Aid Investigations (DAI), any nation that wishes to recieve aid from this alliance must contact me and The United States of Rodriquezland. I will look into your request and inform The United States of Rodriquezland of my decision to grant (or not grant) you the aid you need.

The DAI will also look into loans that have not been paid back, and into the misuse of loans/aid packages by nations. I will then make the necessary recommendations to The United States of Rodriquezland about the current loans/aid packages to that nation in question.

My Staff:
The Secretary of DAI: The Empire of Beav
Undersecretary: ? (MOST IMPORTANT)
Director of the Loan Repayment Enforcement Division: ?

I am looking for nations to head up the areas that have the question mark.

The Empire of Beav
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15-07-2003, 20:47
It would help if we knew what was expected of each office...
15-07-2003, 20:53
...

My Staff:
The Secretary of DAI: The Empire of Beav
Undersecretary: ? (MOST IMPORTANT)
Director of the Loan Repayment Enforcement Division: ?

...


Undersecretary would be my second, act when I cannot.

The Director of the Loan Repayment Enforcement Division would head the LRED. That is responsibile for making sure that Aid Packages/Loans are repaid as they should be.

These are advisors/helpers. They would not act all the time, just if I need someone to do a specific task that I cannot handle for one reason or another.

For the majority of the time, I will be running all the investigations/enforcements.
Rodriquezland
16-07-2003, 04:12
bump I hope someon will take those positions.

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Rodriquezland
16-07-2003, 04:16
I already got a position, don't I? Or am I getting this confused with another alliance?

Sorry it's night here. :oops:

Your second in command.

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Xanthal
16-07-2003, 04:56
The U.S.S.X. would be happy to fill the position of 'Director of the Loan Repayment Enforcement Division'. We ask what powers we will have to enforce loan repayment.
Talkos
16-07-2003, 05:42
Jeesh, looks like our DAI is really getting organized, good job, but as for the propagand....err recruitment division, no organization is needed.

Everyone is responsible for promoting this Union, if you see an opportunity, mention the Union and link the thread, just don't get annoying.
16-07-2003, 15:01
The position for the Director of LRED is open until 10:00 PM EDT or 03:00 GMT. As of right now 9:47 AM EDT (14:47 GMT), only USSX as applied.

The position for the Undersecretary (my second) is open indefinitly.

The position will include using force to have a loan or aid package repaid. After authroization by The United States of Rodriquezland, you will be able to capture and liquidate assests equal (and only equal) to the loan/aid package.

There will also be a list of nations that have loans/aid packages out and it will be our (mine and yours) job to make sure they get paid back.
16-07-2003, 19:49
:wink:
17-07-2003, 01:04
I am going to give the position of the Director of LRED to USSX for now.

If someone thinks that USSX is unable to fill this position, please TG me.
Xanthal
17-07-2003, 01:21
I thank you. We have created a board ( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52751 ) to track money owed by nations and will issue reports to Beav as necessary regarding repayments or delays of repayments.
17-07-2003, 01:22
I thank you. We have created a board ( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52751 ) to track money owed by nations and will issue reports to Beav as necessary regarding repayments or delays of repayments.

One report a day issused directly to my Telegram Inbox.
Xanthal
17-07-2003, 01:23
That seems excessive, but whatever you say. I'll write my first one now.
Rodriquezland
17-07-2003, 05:47
DAI this nation is requesting help... The Democratic States Of Boob butter what do you think?

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17-07-2003, 16:04
We have to treat each nation with the same shadow of a doubt that we treat any nation.

I have sent a Telegram to that nation requesting their reasons and a payment plan.

Now we wait.
Xanthal
17-07-2003, 18:19
Just remember to keep me up-to-date. I can't enforce loan payback if I don't know who has loans...
17-07-2003, 18:35
Just remember to keep me up-to-date. I can't enforce loan payback if I don't know who has loans...

I will. You are the second one to recieve the information after TSE.
18-07-2003, 02:20
I am giving Glenn Someone 10 days of inacticity before the Director of LRED is authrozied to capture and liquidate assests equal to that $16,500.
18-07-2003, 02:30
The Department of Aid Investigations Budget for FY July 2003 (July 2003-August 2003; one NS year):

Requested-
Total: 238.02 Million United Kingdom Pounds (UKP)*

Division of Funds with in DAI:

Operating Costs: 3.02 Million UKP
-Secretary Salary: 417,000 UKP/year
-Director of LRED: 242,000 UKP/year
-Mantinence: 192,000 UKP/month


Capitol Investiments: 135 Million UKP
-Armed Forces Build Up for LRED: 35 Million UKP
-Building Program: 100 Million UKP


Emergency Fund: 100 Million UKP


This is the requested budget of the DAI. I ask that the board approve this as quickly as possible with little changes.

I expect our Capitol Investiments to take sometime. I expect them to be completed by the end of FY 2003. Once that is gone, the budget will drop. With USSX's payback plan, that should cover the budget as requested. I expect a 15% cost-of-living adjustment every FY for the paid positions listed above. As soon as the capitol investments are over, then I can move on to more important things. I plan to have a full line of investigators to assist me part-time when I need it. The emergency fund is for surprises along the way, and cannot be below 100 Million UKP. 100 Million is the basic operating cost for the DAI.

*1 UKP=1.60 USD.

Questions? Comments? Contact me.
Rodriquezland
18-07-2003, 02:46
The United States Of Rodriquezland approves it *transfers funds*.
18-07-2003, 02:48
The United States Of Rodriquezland approves it *transfers funds*.

Thank you. As you can see, I'm working on the organization of the DAI. I've been working all day on this.
18-07-2003, 02:51
What do we do about Glenn Someone?
18-07-2003, 03:06
BOOKKEEPING ERROR! :oops:


I added wrong. I was able to give raises to some of us and still cut over 100 Million UKP.

:D
Collaboration
18-07-2003, 03:35
This seems more humane and workable than the miserable World Bank.
18-07-2003, 12:03
This seems more humane and workable than the miserable World Bank.

Would you like a loan/aid package?
18-07-2003, 18:47
Yerffj is willing to work as my Undersecretary for free, and therefore, I've cut 300,000 UKP from the budget.
18-07-2003, 19:40
Boob butter is to be denied a loan/aid package. They haven't responded to my Telegram.
18-07-2003, 20:39
From the Office of the Secretary of the Department of Aid Investigations:

No loans and/or aid packages are to be given to the following nations:
-Orgyland
-Tresshorn
-El BIftec

Those nations are not deserving of our help in anyway, shape or form. I do not recommend that we support those nations.

Preator Beav
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18-07-2003, 20:41
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Xanthal
18-07-2003, 22:09
I concur. Bringing national feelings into an international business is inherantly unwise.
18-07-2003, 22:21
You don't understand why I have not recommended BIftec for aid. No offense, but you might not ever understand why.

However, shoud the board decide that BIftec and those other nations should get a loan/aid package...fine. I can't stop you, all I do is advise.
Xanthal
18-07-2003, 22:23
I would suggest to the authority in the UEH that the organization place restrictions on loans only on those who have demonstrated an unwillingness or inability to repay them to us in the past. Anything less would make the UEH a biased institution.
18-07-2003, 22:29
I would suggest to the authority in the UEH that the organization place restrictions on loans only on those who have demonstrated an unwillingness or inability to repay them to us in the past. Anything less would make the UEH a biased institution.

I agree. Glenn Someone still has not responed. S/He has 5 more RL days by my count.
Xanthal
18-07-2003, 22:31
Simply inform me when you wish me to take action, and I shall ensure that our assets are returned to us.
18-07-2003, 22:33
Simply inform me when you wish me to take action, and I shall ensure that our assets are returned to us.

I will.

And, as the Director of LRED it is your responsibility to come up with the Armed Forces that you are going to use to capture the assests.

You must be with in the amount of the Budget show above.
Brydog
18-07-2003, 22:37
We need aid and money.
18-07-2003, 22:40
We need aid and money.

Why?
When?
How Much?


Please Telegram these to me and I will put a report together to present to the board for approval.

You must adhere to a payback plan as well.
Menelmacar
18-07-2003, 22:41
Those monetary reserves at the beginning of the thread, what currency are they in?

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18-07-2003, 22:42
:arrow: :arrow: Xanthal, before you post, check your Telegrams. :!: :!:
Xanthal
18-07-2003, 22:43
We will use our own military when necessary. We do not require a specialized force.
18-07-2003, 22:43
Those monetary reserves at the beginning of the thread, what currency are they in?

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If you mean the DAI budget, they are United Kingdom Pounds.
18-07-2003, 23:23
Brydog cannot have what they request. This is why:

1) They are requesting 5 Billion Dollars in 5 days.
2) They have not transmitted a repayment plan.
3) They are trying to aquire war materials.
4) They came to be on 18 July 2003.
5) They have a population of 5 Million.


I do not recommend that we give Brydog the loan he wants.

Secretary of the Department of Aid Investigation
Rodriquezland
19-07-2003, 00:19
To whole UEH budget is in my currency until funds are transfered to other nations or the DAI.


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19-07-2003, 00:27
We need a new recruiter he is on vacation anyboy want to do it.


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19-07-2003, 00:31
We need to give Brydog his answer.
19-07-2003, 02:09
By Order of the Secretary of the Department of Aid Investigations;

I am ordering the Director of the Loan Repayment Enforcement Divison (LRED), Xanthal, to capture and liquidate assests in Glenn Someone equal to the amount owed to the UEH...16,500.

Preator Beav
Secretary of the Department of Aid Investigations




Department Action: 001
Rodriquezland
19-07-2003, 04:26
bump
Xanthal
19-07-2003, 06:43
I'm still waiting for TG confirmation from Beav, just so y'all know... I'm not asleep or something...
Rodriquezland
19-07-2003, 06:44
Ok that is good everyone is not very active.


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Xanthal
19-07-2003, 06:46
I know this all too well... Some things that should take hours take weeks because people leave at all the wrong times.
19-07-2003, 17:12
I'm still waiting for TG confirmation from Beav, just so y'all know... I'm not asleep or something...

I have sent the TG confirmation.
19-07-2003, 17:33
BUMP
Xanthal
19-07-2003, 19:10
I have cancelled all action against GS due to his willful repayment of amount owed. Glenn Someone no longer owes this organization money.
Well Being
19-07-2003, 19:27
I think the only criteria we should use to decide who to loan money to is what they need it for. I don't care if a nation is only a week old or belongs to someone you don't like. Don't tell me I might never understand why we shouldn't load to someone. If anyone has a reason not to loan to someone, the rest of this organization deserves to know what it is.
Also, the donor board has approved another $700 million to this project. Well Being does not wish any official position in the administration here but will assist financially or with manpower any needs of the organization.

Well Being
19-07-2003, 20:47
I think the only criteria we should use to decide who to loan money to is what they need it for. I don't care if a nation is only a week old or belongs to someone you don't like. Don't tell me I might never understand why we shouldn't load to someone. If anyone has a reason not to loan to someone, the rest of this organization deserves to know what it is.
Also, the donor board has approved another $700 million to this project. Well Being does not wish any official position in the administration here but will assist financially or with manpower any needs of the organization.

Well Being


I am in the position to recommend to this organization who should get help and who shouldn't. That is my job.


When a nation is only 2 days old and wants 5 billion dollars, they can't afford to pay that back. Also, when they are using it to build up their offenseive force, then it is my job to step in and say that they cannot have the loan for those reasons.
Well Being
21-07-2003, 07:12
Fine, I just wondered what the reasons were. No need to get jumpy.
Talkos
22-07-2003, 21:27
bump
Rodriquezland
23-07-2003, 18:35
Holy mother of mercy it is a BUMP!
Well Being
23-07-2003, 20:09
How wonderful! I guess no one needs help. I feel so much better about the world now. (just kidding. bump)
24-07-2003, 23:26
I have not gotten any requests either...strange.

I would expect more people to be needing our help.
24-07-2003, 23:30
Being a new nation, we need would like to take out a loan of 10 billion dollars in order to build a strong army for our nation's defense.

~ Emperor Josh Davis
Septinx
25-07-2003, 00:24
I have sent Septinx a TG asking the questions about the loan. I will await his response and then form my recomendation.

I will also have my budget for FY August 2003 posted by Sunday.
25-07-2003, 00:34
These are his responses to my interview:

(My questions in parenthesis)


1) (Why) Because I need money to get my economy rolling.

2) (Nation-building or Empire-building) Nation-building

3) (Civilian or Military spending) Half and Half

4) (Any upcomming invasions) No

5) (Any plans for a Space Program? Money to be applied to a space program?) No

6) (Payback Plan) 1 billion a year

7) (Accept 5-10% intrest) Yes

8. (Region) Soon-to-be NATO Alliance, currently the Pacific.

9) (Allies) McLeod03, Omz222, Calarca, hopefully more, probably more once I get accepted into NATO

10) (Puppet Nations; Region[s]) None






I sugguest that we ALLOW Septinx to have his loan. With the 10% intrest that I have recommended...that will be 11 Billion Dollars in 10 NS years. (10 RL weeks)
Talkos
25-07-2003, 00:51
Though we are concerned with their preoccupation with military strength, a strong infrastructure and close allies will do more for a nation than a budget draining military. We concur with Beav in the assesment, this seems like a small routine loan and we see no reason why it shouldn't be accepted. And if this nation turns out to be a problem, we now have the loan enforcers.
25-07-2003, 00:57
Though we are concerned with their preoccupation with military strength, a strong infrastructure and close allies will do more for a nation than a budget draining military. We concur with Beav in the assesment, this seems like a small routine loan and we see no reason why it shouldn't be accepted. And if this nation turns out to be a problem, we now have the loan enforcers.


From what I can tell, he does want to build up his military, but if he does and ignores his economy, we'll know about it.
Rodriquezland
26-07-2003, 00:40
I will allow this loan if you guys are ok with it.

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26-07-2003, 02:37
I am.
Rodriquezland
26-07-2003, 03:21
bump