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Check it out! This is my military calculater that will make your military for you. You can also change the numbers if you wish to suit your military and national policies. I have 2 versions so far with more to come!
www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/making_a_military.html

The origional thread in the Technical Forum
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48913

Edit: For those of you who do not have excel, go to this link. You can find a program to download for free that will operate excel sheets.
http://www.openoffice.org/

Edit: Nation States GDP Calculator
http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?

EDIT:Started on a V 3.0. Hope you all like them.
And comments or questions are welcome!!!!

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600


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why does it say i have 2 soldiers?

http://www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/Making_a_military_v2.0.xls

did you put 600 or 600000000?

610000000


and 5% of pop

http://www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/Making_a_military_v2.0.xls

I did not put that link because the last time I did a lot of people had trouble with the link. At that time, it worked better to make a page on the website, and link to it from there. Is it working now?

610000000


and 5% of pop

What did it tell you that you had?

wow, thanks

wo!

i sorted it out thanks a bunch again

My total military size is 20 760 000...

Hell, I'd beat China [b]and[] the US in a war :D

My total military size is 20 760 000...

Hell, I'd beat China [b]and[] the US in a war :D

Except both of those nations have realistically sized armies of about half of a percent, and it seems like you're taking about 6%.

Even 2% is a lot, and that's what i'm using; 2% gives me an army about 5x the size of the U.S's.

Very cool. A few suggestions for future versions.

1) some spelling mistakes (dont bother me, but there are some anal people out there, i.e. militay)
2) perhaps a military strength rating, based on various factors:
- strong economic nations should be able to afford better equipment, etc.
- high civil rights can increase an army's wellbeing and hapiness
- high political rights can cause too much volitility in the army (constantly changing budgets, etc).

Very good, and this theoretically should put an end to claims of "godmodding"... however, just because a nation has 1 billion, does not mean that it can support a large, well equiped high tech military if it's economy is in the crapper.

Very cool. A few suggestions for future versions.

1) some spelling mistakes (dont bother me, but there are some anal people out there, i.e. militay)
2) perhaps a military strength rating, based on various factors:
- strong economic nations should be able to afford better equipment, etc.
- high civil rights can increase an army's wellbeing and hapiness
- high political rights can cause too much volitility in the army (constantly changing budgets, etc).

Very good, and this theoretically should put an end to claims of "godmodding"... however, just because a nation has 1 billion, does not mean that it can support a large, well equiped high tech military if it's economy is in the crapper.

All great points, thanks. As for the sp errors, sorry, typoes happen and I will check it over. I plan on trying to integrate the NS budget calculator into this to confront the cost problems, that might take a while though.

I've got an improved version of the NS budget sheet if anyone wants it, I added a few new things to it.

Very cool. A few suggestions for future versions.

1) some spelling mistakes (dont bother me, but there are some anal people out there, i.e. militay)
2) perhaps a military strength rating, based on various factors:
- strong economic nations should be able to afford better equipment, etc.
- high civil rights can increase an army's wellbeing and hapiness
- high political rights can cause too much volitility in the army (constantly changing budgets, etc).

Very good, and this theoretically should put an end to claims of "godmodding"... however, just because a nation has 1 billion, does not mean that it can support a large, well equiped high tech military if it's economy is in the crapper.

All great points, thanks. As for the sp errors, sorry, typoes happen and I will check it over. I plan on trying to integrate the NS budget calculator into this to confront the cost problems, that might take a while though.

I've got an improved version of the NS budget sheet if anyone wants it, I added a few new things to it.

If you would, just let me know of any changes you make. I am going to continuously update this and if everyone else does to it may get confusing. I am more than happy to take recommendations.

You should add graphs for the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines

SWEET! With 1% I got 10,610,000 Pplz in my military.

Some countries don't have certain branches distinctly separated. For instance, Los Lejanos (the Outlands) does not have a separate "Marines" branch - the Navy has "Naval Infantry" which fill the given role of marines, but are actually naval personnel.

Very interesting...I'm going to work with this and see what I can come out with...thanks.

I've got an improved version of the NS budget sheet if anyone wants it, I added a few new things to it.

If you would, just let me know of any changes you make. I am going to continuously update this and if everyone else does to it may get confusing. I am more than happy to take recommendations.

I added a spot where you put the percentage of ur population in the armed forces and how many people that is, and also a percentage of GDP you spend. I also chenged the GDP per capita ratings to make them a little more realistic.

Some countries don't have certain branches distinctly separated. For instance, Los Lejanos (the Outlands) does not have a separate "Marines" branch - the Navy has "Naval Infantry" which fill the given role of marines, but are actually naval personnel.

Very interesting...I'm going to work with this and see what I can come out with...thanks.

You can set Marines for 00, and evintually I am going to have blank areas for you to add your own forces if you want to. Hopfully that will be added to version 2.1.

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again I must bump this useful tool so hat as many nations as possible may see it.

Nifty toy (I got your email by the way, NE, I already had 2.0 from this thread though...), gives me about 950k troops total with my population (2% military) and splits them up more accurately than by hand. On the other hand, I'd like to see a more customizable system for the program, since my armored division encompasses AAA and artillery, as well as "armored troops", and my Navy and Air Force are a single entity, rather than separated... Otherwise, it looks good for only a second version. :)

My region of Camdean (http://camdean.greatnow.com) has a big force....

Total military = 30 Million
Army = 18 Million
Infantry = 5Million
Navy = 7 Million
Airforce 4 Million



:arrow: The region has 763 Million people, and im using 4% for the whole region.

Nifty toy (I got your email by the way, NE, I already had 2.0 from this thread though...), gives me about 950k troops total with my population (2% military) and splits them up more accurately than by hand. On the other hand, I'd like to see a more customizable system for the program, since my armored division encompasses AAA and artillery, as well as "armored troops", and my Navy and Air Force are a single entity, rather than separated... Otherwise, it looks good for only a second version. :)

I trying to address that as much as possible. For now, if you do stuff like set AAA and artillery to 00 and add that to armored you can make up for that if you wish. Same thing for Air Force, put 00 there and add their men to the Naval Pilots and walla. Thanks for the good words, makes me want to continue improving it.

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i used version 1 and got this www.angelfire.com/rnb/hellreapers/army.htm cant wait to get on my other comp and use 2.0

where do i get excel?

i used version 1 and got this www.angelfire.com/rnb/hellreapers/army.htm cant wait to get on my other comp and use 2.0

Glad you liked it! Why do you need another computer for v 2.0?

only1 has excell

where do i get excel?

Excel is part of Microsofts office package and to get it (legaly) you have to buy it. However, if you go to http://www.openoffice.org/ you can download a free program that will use and operate with excel sheets, and its free!

only1 has excell

Sorry, still confused. You can still use v. 2.0 on the same computer, but no big deal.

I have 31 million infantry.

I have 31 million infantry.

:shock: I admit that I only use 0.8% of my population for the military, but that only gives me 1,370,304 infantry troops. :shock:
Did you change the numbers? How much of your population are you using in the military?

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Do you like:
LEVEL 1 basic
Population 169000000
% in military 5
Total militay size 8,450,000
Total Army size 5,070,000 Army Field personnel 3,092,700
Infantry 1,608,204 Divisions 268.03 Brigades 1,072.14 Companies 6,432.82 Platoons
Artillery 123,708
Air Defence 123,708
Armor 494,832
Special Forces 185,562 Rangers 148,450 Snipers 1,856 Recon 18,556 Other
Army Pilots 139,172
Aircraft Support 417,515
Total Navy size 2,112,500 Naval Field personnel 1,288,625
Shipman 1,030,900
Special Forces 12,886
Navy Pilots 61,210
Aircraft Support 183,629
Total Air Force size 1,183,000 AF Field personnel 721,630
AF Pilots 180,408
Aircraft Support 541,223
Total Marine Corps size 84,500 MC Field personnel 51,545
Infantry 32,989 Divisions 5.50 Brigades 21.99 Companies 131.96 Platoons
Mechanized Infantry 7,732
Special Forces 2,577
MC Pilots 2,062
Aircraft Support 6,185

LEVEL 2 branch sizes
Total militay size 8,450,000
% in the Army 60 Total Army size 5,070,000 Army Field personnel 3,092,700
% in the Navy 25 Total Navy size 2,112,500 Naval Field personnel 1,288,625
% in the Air Force 14 Total Air Force size 1,183,000 AF Field personnel 721,630
% in the Marine Corps 1 Total Marine Corps size 84,500 MC Field personnel 51,545
% Totals 100

LEVEL 3 BRANCH DETAIL
Total Army size 5,070,000 % dedicated to support 39 Army Field personnel 3,092,700
Infantry unit sizes >>>> >>>>>>>>> Division 6000 Brigades 1500 Companies 250 Platoons 40
% of Army in Infantry 52
% of Army in Artillery 4
% of Army in AAA/AD 4
% of Army in Armor 16
% of Army in Sp Force 6 % of SF as Rangers 80 % of SF as Snipers 1 % of SF as Recon 10 % of SF as Other 9
% of Army as Pilots 4.5
% of Army as AC Supp 13.5
% Total in Amry 100

Total Navy size 2,112,500 % dedicated to support 39 Navy Field personnel 1,288,625
% of Navy as Shipman 80
% of Navy as Sp Force 1
% of Navy as Pilots 4.75
% of Navy as AC Supp 14.25
% Total in Navy 100

Total Air Force size 1,183,000 % dedicated to support 39 AF Field personnel 721,630
% of AF as Pilots 25
% of AF as AC Support 75
% Total in Air Force 100

Total Marine Corps size 84,500 % dedicated to support 39 MC Field personnel 51,545
Infantry unit sizes >>>> >>>>>>>>> Division 6000 Brigades 1,500 Companies 250 Platoons 40
% of MC as Infantry 64
% of MC as Mech In 15
% of MC as Sp Force 5
% of MC as Pilots 4
% of MC as AC Support 12
% Total in Marine Corps 100

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Looks like it worked :D Do you like?

Quite impressed with my military...

Total in Military=2.5%

14 Million in Military!

8,850,000 in Army!

8 Million troops to play with!

i think some credit should go to me...or not

there is only one tiny thing wrong and thats with the population. u forget to put those 1,000,000 type integer things it in for that.

Quite impressed with my military...

Total in Military=2.5%

14 Million in Military!

8,850,000 in Army!

8 Million troops to play with!

Mabye I should consider raising my % to a higher amount?!?!?
Seems like everyone is using real high #'s. Could leave me hurting. I'll have to look into it.

i think some credit should go to me...or not

there is only one tiny thing wrong and thats with the population. u forget to put those 1,000,000 type integer things it in for that.

Check out the web page, I gave you credit!!!! I'll have to fix the "," thing, did not notice it.

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i vote sticky!
that was the volga

bump, cause I'm logging off.

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If you think yes, please bump.

Sticky it to me, baby. :mrgreen: /me waits for 2.1 customizable version

ps. The Bumpinator is coming for you.

man, I have been sitting too long, my bump hurts.

man, I have been sitting too long, my bump hurts.ur kinda obsessed with this calc. although i spose i would have taken yonks to make

man, I have been sitting too long, my bump hurts.ur kinda obsessed with this calc. although i spose i would have taken yonks to make

Well, yes. Most of the feedback I have got is positive, and the hits to the calculator is more than that to these posts which tells me those who are interested return. I am just trying to get the word out.
Do mods remove polls? If so, why? The one I had here is gone and I did not do it.

Thank you, you seem to be a very helpful player. I downloaded ur calculator. Thanks for notcing my troubles and telling me!

That's one usefull calculator...

The sad thing is that I don't understand much in US classification. Some brainstorming is ahead for me, converting it all to french classification :)

But still, it is quite helpfull...

And hey, my first post on the forums! :D

For a very comprehensive military calculator which takes into effect allies, GDP, economy rating, etc, try Dragonisia's imperial census. You can convert it to your own, thats what I did. You can find it here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48026&highlight=

BUMP, so you all can check out version 2.1, the sample!

Another bump for good messure.

Bump ;)
But disguised as a question:
The budget is annual, right?

bump, disguised as an answer.
Yes

what a clever idea... President Delacroix would like ta award you with a medal

TNE, nice upgrade.

TNE, nice upgrade.

Thanks :D

bump for the morning crowd!

version 1 is more understandable

version 1 is more understandable

Is it because the others are so long? Or do they just need better organization?

I love ver 2.1 thanks for puting it out there. It gives me a better understanding of my military orgization.

I am surprised you found this thing way back there. Glad you liked it! Version 3.0 is brewing in my head and is going to be real cool. Lots of research is needed for it though. It will be out eventually.

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It looks good. Only problem is the numbes go a bit wonky when your nation is over a billion. I was also wondering if you were going to work up sections for the other branches. You have a very nice section for the navy, ones for the other sections would be great. Keep up the Good work.

Thanks. I hope to, but I do not know if I will have time.

Heh, it justifies the 7 billion population regional supported army of 266 million my empire enrolls as well.. lol. I even run a surplus.

Wee. I had fun, said I had 8 percent militar to pop, and said I used all of my National budget on the military. It was fun. I used 4-5%, since I have obligatory military service.

Ah, finally found it!
This should have a link in one of the noob threads.

Ah, finally found it!
This should have a link in one of the noob threads.

It seams no one of importance around here thinks that. O-well, I did my part so I am happy. I know a few people liked it and mabye it helped them, that is all that matters. Thanks for the thought.

*bookmarks*

*bumps thread*
*starts chanting "Sti-cky, Sti-cky, Sti-cky..." under breath*

I really like that page! Thanks for making it public.

One small idea for V.3. Perhaps you could make rough estimates on the maximum number of ships / tanks / fighters and so on that your military could support.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422816/valosmall.gif
Canaris Insid
Prime Minister
Democratic Islands of Valonia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1750111)

good work :D

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I would just like to point out to some people that the United Kingdom has 0.34% of its population in the armed services. People who are going around with 6% and more not even including civilian personnel (another 0.16% of UK population) might want to think of the consequenses for their society and economy of having a country more than 17 times as militaristic as the UK.

A country with a massive militia armed with pitchforks could manage it, but if you think that you can take that many young men out of the workforce and still make enough money to give them aircraft carriers and cruise missiles to play with, think again.

Thankyou for listening

Damn. :shock: I can not believe this got dug up. Whoever found it was looking through a lot of old posts...thanks Wyrmberg. I wish everyone liked it as much!

Oh, and Valonia: I thought of that already. I was going to include maintinance costs with the next version, which would limit the amount of stuff one could have. But there is not enough interest to put that kind of time into it.

Not enough interest? Oh man. :cry: Well here's to hoping. You have done some very good work. Hope to see more of it.

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