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Dear Members of The North Pacific region and the rest of the World;
On behalf of the compassionate citizens of the very large and safe Federation of the Twoslit Experiment, we are deeply troubled by the fact that The Principality of Nastic has been ejected and banned from The North Pacific. We are therefore requesting each of the nations of the world to write a telegram to the current delegate of The North Pacific, The People's Republic of ZeroPositive, to persuade him to remove Nastic from the banned list. The Prinipality of Nastic is an integral part of The North Pacific, and we speak for many nations in saying that we want him back.
Yours truly,
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I thank you for your support and I state here and now I have NEVER been in the atlantic nor have I asked to be,Nor am I in contact with any nation that is (that I know of anyway)

I have and never will be part of the rejected realms army (I do not invade regions)

I was the delegate for the north pacific region for many months and I like to think I did a good and fair job of it,I left the region for one day so that someone else would get a chance at delegate(I had over 660 endorsements at the time) Not the actions of a nation intent to invading a region.

I only used the ejection powers for spammers and griefers (which I also passed on to admin to deal with)

I totally refute any suggestion by zeropositive that I am in the atlantic and the rejected realms army (HE KNOWS WHY AND I KNOW WHY HE EJECTED AND CONTINUES TO BAN ME)there are several nations that are close enough to become delegate with support,We will see what happens to them.

I thank everyone for their kind words and support,I hope that the north pacific can survive these problems and become strong again.

I thank you and good luck LONG LIVE THE NORTH PACIFIC.

i am replying to a post about getting the nation nastic back in the north pacific i am totaly with getting getting the nation nastic off the banned list and back in the north

banning him was not the way to go about it he mearly stepped aside to give someone else a go that is no reason to ban him at the moment im thinking of electing a new delagate as the latest one is starting to become senile :twisted:

During our stay in the region of the North Pacific,
we have come to know the Principality of Nastic. Nastic remains one of the nicest and friendliest nations we have met in Nationstates.

We testify and attest that they have been a fine delegate that never delayed in giving support and aid even to tiny newcomers as our nation was when we first came into existence in Nationstates.

The recent events are most unfair towards Nastic, a nation that should be a model for other regional delegates, and that deserves much respect and support.

We do not believe the allegations leveled against it, and we are indeed shocked and saddened by its disturbing ejection from its home region.
Nastic, to us, IS the North Pacific. And that region stands to lose plenty with Nastic's absence.

We strongly urge all the nations of the North Pacific, and the world to voice their support for the Principality of Nastic. We hope this unnatural situation will come to end as soon as possible.



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Sheikh Speare, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Seven-Minaret City
Dominion of Islamic Ummah

Let Nastic back into the North Pacific! :evil:

To the Nations of North Pacific

In Support of the Principality of Nastic,

we suggest that you
Telegram all nations that want Nastic to return to his rightful position.
Get enough nations to surpass the number of endorsements the newcomer has.(zeropositive has 364 endorsements).
Have those nations endorse one of themselves and regain the delegate seat.
(Optional: Eject the newcomer and ban him.)
Remove Nastic from the ban list, so he can rejoin the region.
And have everyone switch their endorsements back to Nastic.

We fully hope that Nastic will be restored to their rightful place as delegate of the North Pacific.

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Sheikh Speare, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Seven-Minaret City
Dominion of Islamic Ummah

"Forca Nastic, Forca Catalunya"

What do mods have to say about this?

Was the takeover legal, or griefing?

Folks you must mobilize yourselves, the member nations of the North Pacific.

The current delegate (i should say thug) , his words don't fly .

Nastic, the NATIVE DELEGATE of the region willingly and gracefully allowed the delegateship to go to someone else, because he is decent and democratic.
Many other Delegates would have never allowed this to happen, and booted out anyone looking to become the new delegate.
But Nastic didn't - he's a decent and honest person.

So why on earth , and by what twisted logic, would Nastic be a threat to North Pacific?

Dear Members of THE NORTH PACIFIC,

ZeroPositive's arguments don't fly.

Nastic was never a threat to THE NORTH PACIFIC, and here's why:

1- The North Pacific is Nastic's OWN region. He WAS the Native Delegate. He allowed the delegacy to go to someone else, out of decency, honour, and democractic values
(many other delegates would've tyrannicaly booted out any threat to the delegateship, but NOT Nastic).

2- Now Zeropositive is using this against Nastic by saying Nastic didn't care about North Pacific (in a telegram to me, Islamic Ummah) - That's a lie, Nastic cares A LOT about the North Pacific - it was because he cared that he allowed the delegateship to go to someone else.

3- Nastic always cared for members of the region. Even, at his time, when the region had over 10,000 Nations, Nastic would answer the questions and help the newest and tiniest nations (like myself when I first joined nationstates).

4- Zeropositive's claim that Nastic tried to conspire against the region - are COMPLETELY FALSE>
He has no given no proof - and he HAS NO proof.
His pathetic claims that he heard it in the grapevine, should make you all see through his serpentine scheming, and should compel to act quickly to remove him as delegate , so you can remove the ban on Nastic, and restore him to his rightful position.

All the members of the North Pacific should do this because just unjustice and lying are too Vile for us to let it stand. They should exposed, and removed.
And because Nastic has been seriously wronged in this event.
I hope all UN members here (especially those that KNOW Nastic, and what a nice person he/she is) will move immediately to put an end to this bitter injustice.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Islamic Ummah (Former Member of The North Pacific)

Seconds ago The Republic of Justiciasiasia Dear Members of THE NORTH PACIFIC,
ZeroPositive's arguments don't fly.
Nastic was never a threat to THE NORTH PACIFIC, and here's why:
1- The North Pacific is Nastic's OWN region. He WAS the Native Delegate. He allowed the delegacy to go to someone else, out of decency, honour, and democractic values
(many other delegates would've tyrannicaly booted out any threat to the delegateship, but NOT Nastic).
2- Now Zeropositive is using this against Nastic by saying Nastic didn't care about North Pacific (in a telegram to me, Islamic Ummah) - That's a lie, Nastic cares A LOT about the North Pacific - it was because he cared that he allowed the delegateship to go to someone else.
3- Nastic always cared for members of the region. Even, at his time, when the region had over 10,000 Nations, Nastic would answer the questions and help the newest and tiniest nations (like myself when I first joined nationstates).
4- Zeropositive's claim that Nastic tried to conspire against the region - are COMPLETELY FALSE>
He has no given no proof - and he HAS NO proof.
His pathetic claims that he heard it in the grapevine, should make you all see through his serpentine scheming, and should compel to act quickly to remove him as delegate , so you can remove the ban on Nastic, and restore him to his rightful position.

All the members of the North Pacific should do this because just unjustice and lying are too Vile for us to let it stand. They should exposed, and removed.
And because Nastic has been seriously wronged in this event.
I hope all UN members here (especially those that KNOW Nastic, and what a nice person he/she is) will move immediately to put an end to this bitter injustice.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Islamic Ummah (Former Member of The North Pacific)

I hope that Islamic Ummah forgives my plagiarism, but I did not want his words to disappear on the North Pacific message board.

Thank you.
LOL - I also posted them here - well the more the better.

Look , there's very dim chance of any mods interfering.
I urge you again to garner endorsments for one among you
boot out this zeropositive fraudster
and restore Nastic.

The Empire of Chascatopia as a supporter and endorser of the Principality of Nastic demands the immediate removal of Nastic from said banned list of the region. We have heard much of Nastic's great deeds on behalf of our region. What has Zeropositive done?

I thank you all for your support and I wish you all and the north pacific good luck ;-)

I totally agree with Twoslit and Islamic Ummah. Their arguements are valid, and have sufficient evidence to back the points they make. We've known Nastic to be a great asset to the North Pacific as U.N Delegate. This Federation will do everything in it's power to see that Nastic is bought back to the region as delegate.

LONG LIVE THE NORTH PACIFIC!!

As requested I have gone to my intel sources regarding Nastic. I only have two more to report back but to date there is no mention of Nastic anywhere. Being as high profile as he is this would be impossible were he involved.
That having been said I am not entirely sure if Zeropositive ejected him due to being to close in an endorsement count or due to faulty or malicious Intel. Previous to the ejection there was dialogue between the two parties of a high level nature which makes me wonder if ZeroPositive really is as Machiavellian as he is being made out to be.
ZeroPositive is the rightful delegate, the decision doesn't appear to violate the rules in a legal sense. Morally is an individual choice. That having been said I again reiterate my previous point. You have a massive region you need a government to help the delegate run it. If you at least had a cabinet this would've been a more public process.
The real sticking point here is if ZP lets Nastic back in there will be an incredibly huge debate that will overshadow all else. If he doesn't then this dogs him and the efficiency of his leadership is compromised. There has been at least two nations offer their assistance as moderators. If you don't like that idea approach Silentica of the South Pacific. He is the Chief Justice and Solicitor General. He would be an impartial judge to hear out the particulars and mete out a resolution. THe Goddess would not object to the lending out of such SP resources to aid you. Your region needs to address this immediately if you are to make progress on anything.

Westminster,

What on Earth are you on about?

(Sub)Zeropositive or negative had no right to ban Nastic.

And his allegations add insult to injury .

If Zero has any honour, he should remove the ban. it is the honourable and right thing to do.

I am impartial. You want this resolved ease off on the rhetoric. Truth be known I find it suspect he was tossed when he had 10 less endorsements. That having been said ZP isn't going to budge when he looks out and sees burning crosses everywhere. You have tools at your disposal, keep removing endorsements and he'll take notice.

perhaps zeropositive's endorsers could be questioned about their motives and their understanding of the issue.

I would venture to say that most who endorsed ZeroPositive only did so because he endorsed them first... so basically it's just a bribe. (He endorsed me and when I refused to endorse him in return until he reinstated Nastic he quickly revoked his endorsement)
Nice delegate we have. :twisted:

Banning is tha action of cowards anyway.

The Grand Duchy of Soleria withdraws its endorsement of the current delegate of the North Pacific due to its handling of the Nastic issue. We can all not like each other but let's all play fair.

The Confederacy of Drinkatoria already withdrawn it's endorsment to Zero... and sent a telegram regarding this issue

I agree that Nastic needs to be brought back into the North Pacific. i belive that Nastic was unfairly kicked out of the North Pacific and i would greatly like to see the nation back in the North Pacific. I am not sure how the delegates work but is it not possible that we can make a stand as a nation and get a new delegate voted in that will reinstate Nastic?? Just a wonder!
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MonkeyKins
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I agree that Nastic needs to be brought back into the North Pacific. i belive that Nastic was unfairly kicked out of the North Pacific and i would greatly like to see the nation back in the North Pacific. I am not sure how the delegates work but is it not possible that we can make a stand as a nation and get a new delegate voted in that will reinstate Nastic?? Just a wonder!
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MonkeyKins
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This is exactly what needs to be done.

Peace has returned to The North Pacific. Nastic is no longer banned. The party is tomorrow.

Yaaaaaaaaaay. :shock: :D
This is great news ! :lol: :D :wink: 8) :shock: :D :o :) :lol: :D

Nastic has been one of the friendliest nations that I've met while taking part in NationStates. I agree with Westminster that all of those who have endorsed ZP should withdraw their endorsements, and it will show him a thing or two. The people of my nation are outraged, because if ZP can do it to Nastic, what stops him from doing it to one of our nations? I feel that a delegate must be responsible for their actions, and if need be, all the members of the North Pacific take a vote, and majority wins, and ZP needs to adhere to our decision!

I did what I thought was and will always think is correct back then, have I banned anyone else who is close to delegate, why don't you ask around who else I banned no one else apart from someone constantly spaming me. Also I lifted that ban and lifted other bans that happened before.

At the begining I was approached by certain nation states that gave me webpages, forums and logs of Nastic conspiring with the rejected realms to re take control of The North Pacific for them, after reading into this and asking Nastic a few questions which I didn't get a satisfactory reply I decided to ban him.

As I said in the posts recently I have no interest in being power hungry I didn't even expect to be delegate for this region but I did what I thought was at the time correct. I have stated key points why keep getting passed on and distorted by quite a few of you.

I am not a bad guy I just believed that something funny was running amoke and acted, I have unbanned him and hope he forgives me.

He of all people should know that I wasn't endorsing people so that he could become regional head again so in no way was I banning him to stop people from coming to delegate status. If my intentions were this I would have banned quite of few people and don't think I don't know how to.

In the short time I have been delegate I know I haven't been the best at all but I did try in the best intentions of the region and have been servely mis-guided.

All I ask is your forgiveness for my mis-guided actions.

Thank You for your time

The People's Republic of ZeroPostive
Serving the North Pacific Region

Sorry for all the bad typos or bad grammar is it late here very late.
Take care all

I did what I thought was and will always think is correct back then, have I banned anyone else who is close to delegate, why don't you ask around who else I banned no one else apart from someone constantly spaming me. Also I lifted that ban and lifted other bans that happened before.

At the begining I was approached by certain nation states that gave me webpages, forums and logs of Nastic conspiring with the rejected realms to re take control of The North Pacific for them, after reading into this and asking Nastic a few questions which I didn't get a satisfactory reply I decided to ban him.

As I said in the posts recently I have no interest in being power hungry I didn't even expect to be delegate for this region but I did what I thought was at the time correct. I have stated key points why keep getting passed on and distorted by quite a few of you.

I am not a bad guy I just believed that something funny was running amoke and acted, I have unbanned him and hope he forgives me.

He of all people should know that I wasn't endorsing people so that he could become regional head again so in no way was I banning him to stop people from coming to delegate status. If my intentions were this I would have banned quite of few people and don't think I don't know how to.

In the short time I have been delegate I know I haven't been the best at all but I did try in the best intentions of the region and have been servely mis-guided.

All I ask is your forgiveness for my mis-guided actions.

Thank You for your time

The People's Republic of ZeroPostive
Serving the North Pacific Region

Sorry for all the bad typos or bad grammar is it late here very late.
Take care all

Everyone is responsible for making his/her own decision with respect to dealing with the people involved in this event. Emotions motivate us, but, hopefully, reason modifies what we do.

I spent my time looking in the proposals. Oy vey!

I am delighted to hear that Nastic is back in the North Pacific, and have tried to find a peaceful medium to convince Zeropositive to bring him back. Since it appears that he's returned, I am only overjoyed to hear about it. Perhaps we can start shaping up The North Pacific to set him up to be the new head of the UN.

Hi,

We of the newly formed People's Republic of Tuaca have added their endorsement to the newly elected UN representative Nastic.

As a free minded and fair nation, we have decided to withdraw endorsement of zero positive until further notice.

Tuacans are a people of high principle and would offer our full support to Nastic at this time.

TPRT also acknowledges the need for strength in unity in the region and as such would ask for endorsement from anyone who could offer it at this time of evolvement.

We would also be greatly appreciative of any advice that can be given to our emerging nation.

If there is anything else you would like to know about our nation, please come and visit us. You will find our peaceful nation more than accomodating.

Yours,

The Peoples Republic of Tuaca.

Number one I never actively advocated withdrawing endorsements from ZeroPositive. I merely pointed out this was a tool you of the North Pacific could use. Secondly if the weblogs and webpages detailing the supposed wrongdoings of Nastic were forwarded to you ZeroPositive why not make them public? It would go a long way to exonerating your actions. That having been said I reiterate I hope you both get on with the business of running the North Pacific and not fixate too closely on this now. Plenty of time to get your own back later. I hope your region actively strives to build itself into a more organized, publicly orientated entity. You hold far more promise than your current situation indicates.

First of all I need to thank all the nations that have supported me through these troubled times in THE NORTH PACIFIC.They know who they are and should have received a personal message from me.If ive missed you im sorry and please do not take this as a insult its just there has been so many I may have missed you.
I am now back in THE NORTH PACIFIC again and hope we can now move forward as a region.This episode has shown me one thing though and that is we can all come together when we have too,Attack one of us and you attack us all.
LONG LIVE THE NORTH PACIFIC AND ALL ITS NATIONS (yes all).
Now to the business at hand.

Dear Zeropositive I will wait 1 week before I make my decision regarding you.

You say that you did what you thought was best for the north pacific and you are to be commended for that but lets get to the truth here.

I was the delegate with 660 endorsements and I left the region for 1 day to lose the endorsements and give someone else a shot at the delegateship,When you became the delegate I was probably one of the first to congratulate you.

After this I urged you on to beat the record 883 endorsements that I had previously recieved,I also gave you advise which you asked for i.e about abusive messages you were getting e.t.c,This advise I gave willingly.

You then sent me a message asking if I wished to return to the delegateship and if I did you would stop endorsing people,I replied that you shouldnt do that and that I didnt think that I would catch you anyway within half an hour of this you had ejected me from my home.

You also say that you didnt ban anyone else except for a spammer (a nation which was asking you to explain your actions towards me) the nearest nation behind me and you was at least 150 endorsements behind me so there was no need to eject them at that point.

You say that you asked me questions and that I didnt give you satisfactory answers to these,When we both know you never asked me anything at all (it is and always will be my policy to answer all messages I recieve even the abusive ones) and to be honest until I closed in on you endorsement wise I would have said we were friends (if you can be such in a virtual game)

You state that you were approached with evidence of my treasonous behaviour towards the north pacific (which im sure you will now pass on to me so that I can take action against these nations) As I had at least 400 odd endorsements more than my closet rival at the time I gave up the delegateship I could have done anything I wished with the region and no-one could have done anything about it (not very good at invading regions am I)


What are these key points that everyone is passing over and distorting.

In your actions you have shown yourself to be an excellent politician (you removed your nearest challenger and then dirted his character and tried covering your own treachery up) excellent had it worked,I see a great future ahead of you.

He of all people should know that I wasn't endorsing people so that he could become regional head again so in no way was I banning him to stop people from coming to delegate status. If my intentions were this I would have banned quite of few people and don't think I don't know how to.

you had endorsed nearly every UN nation by then anyway and we all could see you knew how to use your new found powers.

In the short time I have been delegate I know I haven't been the best at all but I did try in the best intentions of the region and have been servely mis-guided.

And we thank you for it.

All I ask is your forgiveness for my mis-guided actions.

You ask for forgiveness for your mis-guided actions,Well let me just say that you havent even said so much as sorry for tha harm you have caused my nation which I have built up over several months.

I will be the bigger man and accept that in your own words you are nieve and gullible.

In 1 week I will deciede your fate.

LONG LIVE THE NORTH PACIFIC REGION AND ALL HER NATIONS (yes all)

Sorry for the length of this post but things had to be said

Now that that has been said, we have some serious partying to do at "The Celebration of Niels Bohr's Birthday". Everyone is invited, please bring your friends.

Welcome back, Nastic. . I was trying very hard to bring you back and I am glad that these think is finaly ended. :wink:

Welcome back, Nastic . I was trying very hard to bring you back and I am glad that these think is finaly ended. :wink:

Its good to be back in THE NORTH PACIFIC region again,To be the delegate is a bonus.

The one positive to come out of all this is that the region has come together to protect one of its nations and also the region,We must now use this to push the region forwards and become as powerful as we once were (back in the day).

We used to have over 20,000 regions we are now down to around 5,500,We need to become a region that people want to stick around in.
Im hoping to set up a webpage for the region soon (please note the word hopefully) and if any nation has any further ideas for the region just let me know.

LONG LIVE THE NORTH PACIFIC REGION and all its member nations.

Its good to be back in THE NORTH PACIFIC region again,To be the delegate is a bonus.

The one positive to come out of all this is that the region has come together to protect one of its nations and also the region,We must now use this to push the region forwards and become as powerful as we once were (back in the day).

We used to have over 20,000 regions we are now down to around 5,500,We need to become a region that people want to stick around in.
Im hoping to set up a webpage for the region soon (please note the word hopefully) and if any nation has any further ideas for the region just let me know.

LONG LIVE THE NORTH PACIFIC REGION and all its member nations.

We could all take martial arts classes together....
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We could all take martial arts classes together....
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Only if I can stand next to the female nations. :oops:

erm bump.