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03-05-2003, 02:10
These are some guns that my military uses...

Luger magnum (Luger is for the Military Officers)
http://www.sarcoinc.com/images/luger.jpg

ARMAS (standered Police fire arm)
http://clan_gdn.galeon.com/imagenes/Usp_a.jpg

Famas (Main assault rifle for the White fang Guard)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_fmf1.jpg

FM P90 (Main gun for Zeonic Royal Guards)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_p90.jpg

M16A3 (Standard assault rifle for the main Zeonic army)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_m16a1.jpg

M4 RIS Rail Interface System (standered for airborne)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_m4ris.jpg

G3 SG1 Sniper Rifle (snipers in the Special forces)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_sg1.jpg

Combat Shotgun (Standard gun for airborne and special forces)
http://clan_gdn.galeon.com/imagenes/M3_a.jpg

that is some of the guns.

HAIL ZEON
Grand General Grayowl
The Zeonic forces
Kecha
03-05-2003, 02:15
Mostly the G11 for an assault rifle, and the SAW for a machine gun.
The New Russia
03-05-2003, 02:17
The NR-991. It looks like the pic below, but slightly longer, the rate of fire is also far less, but with an improved accuracy rating.

http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_p90.jpg
03-05-2003, 02:18
i would change the lugger cause it has very bad accuracy,believe me i've shot one and they are horrible
Rodriquezland
03-05-2003, 02:18
My Military Uses These Weapons

These Are The Weapons My Country Uses
M24 Rifle
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/MA5B_AR.jpg
P56
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/battle_rifle_front.jpg
ZX5
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/smg_back.jpg
SPKNR
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M19_SSM_RL.jpg
Hellfire Shotgun
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M90_SG.jpg
Colt 46
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M6D_SAP.jpg
Stalker Sniper Rifle
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/S2_AM_SR.jpg
03-05-2003, 02:19
A wide variety of weapons; side-arms, rifles, shot-guns, plasma guns, flame-throwers, and all sorts of explosives.
03-05-2003, 02:20
My Military Uses These Weapons

These Are The Weapons My Country Uses
M24 Rifle
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/MA5B_AR.jpg
P56
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/battle_rifle_front.jpg
ZX5
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/smg_back.jpg
SPKNR
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/smg_back.jpg
Hellfire Shotgun
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M90_SG.jpg
Colt 46
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M6D_SAP.jpg
Stalker Sniper Rifle
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/S2_AM_SR.jpg

Man you are plagurisming bungie for those pics. Those are thigns for halo 2 ,but they do look kool
03-05-2003, 02:21
though my military is well armed, its most used weapon is the ignore canon
Rodriquezland
03-05-2003, 02:21
My Military Uses These Weapons

These Are The Weapons My Country Uses
M24 Rifle
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/MA5B_AR.jpg
P56
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/battle_rifle_front.jpg
ZX5
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/smg_back.jpg
SPKNR
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/halo2/smg_back.jpg
Hellfire Shotgun
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M90_SG.jpg
Colt 46
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/M6D_SAP.jpg
Stalker Sniper Rifle
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/weapons/S2_AM_SR.jpg

Man you are plagurisming bungie for those pics. Those are thigns for halo 2 ,but they do look kool

I had to find any excuse to use these cool guns in the forum. :D :D
03-05-2003, 02:22
i would change the lugger cause it has very bad accuracy,believe me i've shot one and they are horrible

Thank you for your tip but I still like to keep it (its for the military officers).

Oh and I am adding another gun...

AC-47 Mini gun (mount it to anything)
http://www.squadron14.com/Photos/miniguns1.jpg
03-05-2003, 02:23
n00b. The Marathon SPNKR 0wns all imitations.
Teritora
03-05-2003, 02:24
the Teritoran Miltery uses the following guns.

The TS 9mm High powered rapid fire rifle using a ten bullet clip and a fixed bayonet.

The TS heavy machine gun for machine gun posts and can be moved with two people that uses 9mm bullets.

The portable TS light machine gun which uses aslo uses 9mm bullets and is one man portable on a battlefeild.

Morters are commonly used as portable arterity and every soilder carries to land mines and the means to in a group build a fortifed camp complete with trenches, razer wire and landmines as each soilder carries two land mines in case of such an event.

But Teritorans also like to use their swords on the battlefeild in close hand to hand fighting.
03-05-2003, 02:24
show us you ohh so godly rifle
Rodriquezland
03-05-2003, 02:25
n00b. The Marathon SPNKR 0wns all imitations.

????????? WTF you talkin about.
03-05-2003, 02:25
n00b. The Marathon SPNKR 0wns all imitations.

uhhh, who are you talking about :?
imported_Blacklake
03-05-2003, 02:30
http://www.eliteforce-online.4players.de:1044/rifle.jpg
http://www.eliteforce-online.4players.de:1044/scavenger.jpg
These are our standard weapons.

OOC NOTE: These aren't supposed to be related to Star Trek. I just think they look cool. And just to be clear, I don't use energy weapons.
imported_Diablo_NL
03-05-2003, 02:31
Our main rifle is the M41A1 http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=211541#211541
All other information is confidential
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 02:32
M16A3 (Standard assault rifle for the main Zeonic army)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_m16a1.jpg[/b]That's the M16A1. ;)
M4 RIS Rail Interface System (standered for airborne)
http://www.airsoft.org.gg/buttons/tm_m4ris.jpgThe RIS is just PART of the gun, I believe.

Oh, you want to know my guns? I've never told ANYONE much more than caliber. Oh, well, I just won't go into enough detail for much copying or finding weaknesses! :D

AF-1:
standard rifle
based on RPK, not recognizable as such
fairly accurate, thanks to the stiff barrel & new short-stroke piston, among other features
transparent plastic magazines, with 4 rows of our new ammunition - a 60-round magazine would take up as less vertical space as a regular AK 30-round magazine, also thanks to our new cartridge case shape
lightweight materials for...you guessed it, light weight!
quick-change barrel
bayonet mounted sideways, either above or below barrel (so grenade launchers don't interfere)
can mount most 40mm grenade launchers & fire many different styles of rifle grenades - good for foreign sales if we ever decide to sell them
compact, thanks to bullpup design, recoil spring over barrel, & other features
can fire above & below the waterline (Yes, there is a real rifle that's better than the standard Russian under-water rifle while under-water, & better than the standard assault rifle above water!)
features for quiet operation
accessory rails
cartridge case catcher - don't want to lose our precious metals!
ambidextrous
camouflaged
optical sight, & back-up iron sights
That's all you need to know ! Move along, there's nothing to see here!

The pistol...think Glock super-upgraded.

Grenades...ah, underwater grenades! W00t! They're stealthy, too...hehe, they can also be launched as rifle grenades!

Grenade MG based on AGS-17 - once again, heavily modified!

Underbarrel grenade launcher - based on M203; more of a simple product improvement program...although not quite! :D

Shotguns based on Remington 870. I'm sick of listing changes! I'm listing no more!

SMG based on Uzi.

Oh, I don't make up ANY of these weapons' features - they're all from real weapons, assuming my sources are reliable.
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03-05-2003, 02:35
I know its the M16A1 but I couldn't find a good M16A3 pic.
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 02:37
I know its the M16A1 but I couldn't find a good M16A3 pic.I shall try to find one, but there's not really much to see.
03-05-2003, 02:38
we use M16 and AK 60
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 02:39
we use M16 and AK 60AK 60? I am not familliar with this...your M16s will jam, dude.
03-05-2003, 02:42
I found one

M16A3
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/car15/M16A3.jpg
03-05-2003, 02:42
we use M16 and AK 60AK 60? I am not familliar with this...your M16s will jam, dude.AK 60 is not a standared weapon : this is own-made by our military industry : but soon we'll use new weapons : energetic and impultionic ones because they work better in space : and we need our forces to be operationnal in space missions.




Victor I
President of
LordSquallFreeRepublic
approved by the ministry of
LSFR territorial and space defense
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03-05-2003, 02:43
lord squall your a bit new for space Combat.and guns will work in space but you'll fly back when you shoot
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 02:43
I know its the M16A1 but I couldn't find a good M16A3 pic.I shall try to find one, but there's not really much to see.|>|-|34|2:
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm
Look at the M16A2 picture (sort of blury - look at http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m16.htm for clearer M16A2 pictures), then imagine that with the M16A3 receiver on it - not really much of a change.

Ah, you beat me to it. Well, these sites have some information on them, along with other weapons, so they're still good to look at to prevent chosing horrible weapons or godmoding.
03-05-2003, 02:45
lord squall your a bit new for space Combat.and guns will work in space but you'll fly back when you shootthat's why i said they were not appropriate : our new guns will be more effective : for the space question : we have only 2 spaceships (but they are very big !)
and we WANT to built our space force : so how about starting with space adapted weapons !





Victor I
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LordSquallFreeRepublic
approved by the ministry of
LSFR territorial and space defense
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03-05-2003, 02:47
these space ships musnt be very big cause your young and i have one and it is 567 meters long and cost 200 billion just for development and 100 billion to build
03-05-2003, 02:51
these space ships musnt be very big cause your young and i have one and it is 567 meters long and cost 200 billion just for development and 100 billion to buildto us, this is a very big spaceship : we are developping a new spaceship based on the firsts technology : because we bought the FSC-60 and reproduced a second : we want our own spaceship : with our own technologies and instalations : it would be 1.5 Km long... but we have a problem with the generator.






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Garrison II
03-05-2003, 02:52
The standard infantry man uses
http://www.secretweapon.com/images/secret/oicw-gun.jpg
Western Asia
03-05-2003, 02:55
My weapons are very much a mix, as many different forces prefer to use different weapons, but the following are the main makes and types (asterices mean more common, double means most common).

2 NOTES:
1) We are currently transitioning from the foreign-made systems to the locally-produced Tavor and Negev.
2) Different forces use other weapons when on missions that require deniability...no we're not going to tell you what types they are, but to think "AK-47s" is a good bet.


--Personal Weapons (handguns)--
Sig 226 & 228**
IMI Jericho 941
H&K USP* and Mk.23(SOCOM)*
Glock 17 & 19

--SMGs--
IMI Uzi family*
FN P90
H&K MP7 (PDW)*
H&K UMP*
H&K G36C
Colt Commando**
IMI Tavor CTAR-21**

--Carbines/ Assult rifles--
H&K G36 (w/AG36 40mm grenade launcher)
Colt M4-A1** (w/M203 40mm grenade launcher)
CAR-15 (w/M203 40mm grenade launcher)
IMI Tavor (TAR21)** (w/M203 40mm grenade launcher)

--Rifles— (scope: Leopold M3A 10X42 day optic or a Litton Aquila X6 Night Vision Device (NVD))
----------Tactical Support/Designated Marksman (medium/short)
H&K G3SG/1 or G33SG/1
CAR-14 DMR
KAC SR25 Sniper Weapons System (SWS) **
IMI STAR (Tavor variant)**
----------Support (medium/long or long)
M24*
H&K MSG-90 A1/DMR*
Dragunov
SSG 3000
----------Heavy/ .50 cal (long)
Barrett M82 A1*

--Shotguns—
M1 12g*
SPAS 12g
----------Special
USAS-12 12g (semi-/Full-auto)
Franchi SPAS15

--Machineguns—
----------Light (5.56 NATO)
FN Minimi/M249 SAW**
H&K 23E
IMI Negev ** (also main light mounted gun)
----------Medium/light (7.62 NATO) (transitioning to Negev)
M60E4*
FN 58 Mag/M240**
H&K 21E
----------Heavy(.50 cal)
Browning M2 HB
----------Special (40 mm)
H&K GMG (grenade machine gun) (40mm)
Western Asia
03-05-2003, 03:05
The standard infantry man uses
http://www.secretweapon.com/images/secret/oicw-gun.jpg

OOC: You make all of you soldier trudge around with that heavy PoS?

That thing is heavier than many LMGs and if it runs out of power it's useless. I would suggest using the G36 as the standard weapon (since that is what the lower part of the gun basically is and the ammunition is interchangable) and you can equip that with an M203 pretty easily for a much lower cost (about 1/3 to 1/2).

I can't think of why a platoon would need more than 2 or 3 of the OICW.
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 03:25
Commenting just on the things I KNOW about without bothering to re-read OICW web sites...That if it runs out of power it's useless.It's not battery-powered, dude...I would suggest using the G36 as the standard weapon (since that is what the lower part of the gun basically is and the ammunition is interchangable) and you can equip that with an M203 pretty easily for a much lower cost (about 1/3 to 1/2).But it doesn't have air-bursting grenades, etc. The OICW is fairly heavy, but lighter than an M16 series rifle given enough stuff to put it on a similar but lower level.
I can't think of why a platoon would need more than 2 or 3 of the OICW.Mine don't have any. :D
imported_Diablo_NL
03-05-2003, 03:44
Yes the OICW does use batteries. Not to fire but for the huge bulky scope/computer on the top.

Second. Nicely copy pasted text from Maxim Popenmaker ;)
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 03:46
Yes the OICW does use batteries. Not to fire but for the huge bulky scope/computer on the top.

Second. Nicely copy pasted text from Maxim Popenmaker ;)Correct, it's NOT worthless without the batteries. I Never said it doesn't USE batteries.
03-05-2003, 03:48
????????? WTF you talkin about.

n00b. Marathon is the prequel to Halo.
03-05-2003, 03:54
These are the standard small arms of Grimdale's military.


M-35 Assault Rifle- Standard issue for Grimdale’s military forces. Firing a .30 caliber slug at high velocities, it is capable of penetrating even light vehicle armor. Accurate out to two and a half miles without a scope and able to accurately fire several types of ammunition (AP, APHE, HE, and Fletchette) at over fifteen-hundred rounds a minute. It uses either a normal thirty round magazine or a three-hundred round drum magazine. The rifle also has optional attachments for a grenade launcher, a mini rocket launcher, and a scope that allows accurate shooting out to six and a half miles.

Model 2002 MacLeod- Taking a cue from the very successful assault rifle design, the Grimdale armament industry built an entirely new pistol to a set of demanding military requirements. Using larger rounds than the assault rifle, the pistol looks to outward appearances like an oversized Colt .45. It also uses different ammo types(AP, APHE, HE, and Fletchette). While not capable of firing as fast, as far, or as accurately as the assault rifle, it is capable of semi-automatic fire. It is the standard issue sidearm of all branches of the Grimdale military.
03-05-2003, 03:55
AR 21 Advanced Infantry Assault Weapon

Length: 750mm (30")
Weight: 3.32kg (7.30 lbs.)
Caliber: 5.56mm NATO Ball M855
Muzzle Velocity: 884mps (2900FPS)

-Bullpup case
-accepts 15, 20, 30 or 45 round clips(30 rnd is standard)
Add-ons available:
10x telescopic scope
12 or 20 gauge shotgun(attatches under barrel)
40mm grenade launcher
bayonette
others in development.
Rodriquezland
03-05-2003, 03:57
????????? WTF you talkin about.

n00b. Marathon is the prequel to Halo.

HALO IS THE BEST THOUGH
imported_Diablo_NL
03-05-2003, 03:57
Accurate out to two and a half miles without a scope

Scope or no scope the maximum effective range doesn't change.
Besides I would like to see the person that can shoot a barn from 2 and a half miles away without using a scope.
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 04:02
Accurate out to two and a half miles without a scope

Scope or no scope the maximum effective range doesn't change.
Besides I would like to see the person that can shoot a barn from 2 and a half miles away without using a scope.How big a barn? Gimme a barn a mile tall and I bet I could do it! :D Maximum EFFECTIVE range does change - the gun can't shoot any farther, but you can aim it better, making it more EFFECTIVE.
03-05-2003, 05:13
bump
03-05-2003, 05:15
i use M-4 Carbines. A sniper scope, grenade launcher, or other tools can be added if neccessary.
03-05-2003, 05:17
Mah country uses the best kinda defense; beatles pictures.....mwahahaha
03-05-2003, 05:18
aaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It burns!
03-05-2003, 05:20
HALO IS THE BEST THOUGH

It sucks. Marathon is a classic.
03-05-2003, 05:22
Here is one more for my main Zeonic army...

Armbrust Light Anti-Tank Weapon (LAW)
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/infantry_images/infantry_weapon_law.jpg
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 05:23
Here is one more for my main Zeonic army...

Armbrust Light Anti-Tank Weapon (LAW)
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/infantry_images/infantry_weapon_law.jpgOur rockets are based on the RPG-7.
03-05-2003, 05:25
the US' military uses the M16A2 as their standard assualt rifle. special forces also use that and the M4. the M4 is very good for clearing out rooms, just as the old SKS.

i hate the famas. it's loud and very inaccurate. the M16A2 kicks much more ass than that piece of shit.
03-05-2003, 05:25
Here is one more for my main Zeonic army...

Armbrust Light Anti-Tank Weapon (LAW)
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/infantry_images/infantry_weapon_law.jpgOur rockets are based on the RPG-7.

Something like this...

http://www.666th.com/aspsmartupload/rpg7diag.gif
03-05-2003, 05:28
the US' military uses the M16A2 as their standard assualt rifle. special forces also use that and the M4. the M4 is very good for clearing out rooms, just as the old SKS.

i hate the famas. it's loud and very inaccurate. the M16A2 kicks much more ass than that piece of shit.

I know that, thats why the White Fang Guard uses them and not my main army forces. (The Zeonic army uses M16A3)
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 05:29
Here is one more for my main Zeonic army...

Armbrust Light Anti-Tank Weapon (LAW)
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/infantry_images/infantry_weapon_law.jpgOur rockets are based on the RPG-7.

Something like this...

http://www.666th.com/aspsmartupload/rpg7diag.gifI can't read Russian...Our new versions LOOK fairly similar, but wait until you see them in action. :twisted:
03-05-2003, 05:32
RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade)
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 05:35
RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade)I know what RPG stands for - I meant I had no idea what all that text means. Argh, a while ago someone was doing Russian translations, and I don't remember who, now. :(
03-05-2003, 05:39
The SAW is part of the main Zeonic infintry and special forces.

http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/fnherstal/machine_gun2.jpg
Nianacio
03-05-2003, 05:43
The SAW is part of the main Zeonic infintry and special forces.Our rifles can double as machine guns or sniper rifles (with proper ammunition, mount, sights, camouflage, etc.). To prevent waste of ammunition, we had to carefully train every soldier. Not that we don't, anyway. :D
03-05-2003, 05:49
The SAW is part of the main Zeonic infintry and special forces.Our rifles can double as machine guns or sniper rifles (with proper ammunition, mount, sights, camouflage, etc.). To prevent waste of ammunition, we had to carefully train every soldier. Not that we don't, anyway. :D

My Military gets a lot of money from the government, so we spen a lot to upgrade our military weapons and buy things for the military too.
03-05-2003, 05:53
We do a lot of military training, so we arnt all looks you know.
We are always ready for a to deploy for war.
Western Asia
03-05-2003, 05:53
Commenting just on the things I KNOW about without bothering to re-read OICW web sites...That if it runs out of power it's useless.It's not battery-powered, dude...I would suggest using the G36 as the standard weapon (since that is what the lower part of the gun basically is and the ammunition is interchangable) and you can equip that with an M203 pretty easily for a much lower cost (about 1/3 to 1/2).But it doesn't have air-bursting grenades, etc. The OICW is fairly heavy, but lighter than an M16 series rifle given enough stuff to put it on a similar but lower level.
I can't think of why a platoon would need more than 2 or 3 of the OICW.Mine don't have any. :D

Ok, so perhaps a bit of hyperbole.

I wasn't saying that it was non-functioning without power, just that 4/5ths of the weight is dependant upon battery power along with 2/3 of the firepower (the 20mm system is completely computer-dependant for the air-burst and measured-range rounds, which means that you would be left with M203-power at much more weight). And while the power that that scope gives you is absolutely amazing, its energy requirements follow in ratio.

And at the cost that that thing demands, you can't just ditch the top parts if the battery dies so you're carrying around a lot of weight that could be easily replaced by lots of ammo for a simpler weapon.

Yes, the M203 doesn't have airbursting grenades, but those are special application rounds and you'd never need many in any deployed small teams. Even a fully-loaded M4 with similar capabilities will be lighter and cheaper, not to mention more flexible.

The OICW will be a great squad weapon (about equivalent deployment as with SAW) but it is simply not suited to be a GI's standard-issue weapon. Any commentator on the project will support that.

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Nianacio
03-05-2003, 05:58
which means that you would be left with M203-power at much more weight).Unfortunately, the smaller round is LESS powerful.
And at the cost that that thing demands, you can't just ditch the top parts if the battery dies so you're carrying around a lot of weight that could be easily replaced by lots of ammo for a simpler weapon.True.
Yes, the M203 doesn't have airbursting grenades, but those are special application rounds and you'd never need many in any deployed small teams. Even a fully-loaded M4 with similar capabilities will be lighter and cheaper, not to mention more flexible.I don't think so.
[quote]The OICW will be a great squad weapon (about equivalent deployment as with SAW) but it is simply not suited to be a GI's standard-issue weapon. Any commentator on the project will support that.[quote]I THINK it's going to be issued as a squad weapon in the USA.
03-05-2003, 06:07
We like to use our friend the 5 in gun

http://www.military.cz/usa/navy/weapons/cannons/mk45shot.jpg
Beth Gellert
03-05-2003, 06:11
Our small arms purcahsing programme stopped short of completion when we decided to allow one of our allies to supply us with several elements of our infantry's arsenal, and their industry was/is slow to take off.
Our infantry numbers recently passed one-hundred-thousand combatants.
Currently most of our conscripts carry bayonet equiped AK47, while the regulars use in the main bayonet equiped AKM, with one or two per platoon replacing the bayonet with a 40mm grenade launcher.
The special forces use AK74, AKS74, and other modern derivatives of the AK family boasting both bayonet and grenade launcher.
Various support and vehicle crews are issued with AKS74.
We are also currently issuing RPG7s, previously reserved for the special forces (Gellert Sentinels), to the regular and conscripted infantry.
Soon we expect to begin receiving Dragunov sniper rifles which will be issued to a fairly wide range of units, and we hope to begin producing our own hand-grenades presently. We are also negotiating for a quantity of Stinger SAM systems.
We are still searching for effective side-arms, mortars and both light and heavy machine guns. If anyone can help us in this search (and as you may have noticed we have chosen to persue primarily Soviet/Russian armaments) we should like to hear from them.
03-05-2003, 06:27
The weapons of the Order

http://blackwolforder.tripod.com/weapons.htm

also, you may wish to look at

http://blackwolforder.tripod.com/armor.htm

for our standard powered armor types.

I would also welcome any comments on our weaponry.
03-05-2003, 06:30
pretty awesome guns
Syskeyia
03-05-2003, 06:53
the standard officer's sidearm gun is the Colt XSE pistol:
http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2c_xse.gif

Most infantry either wield the M4A1 Carbine or the M16AZ Assault Rifle"

http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2f20_m4carbine.gif
http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2f16_m16a2.gif
All of which can be equipped with the M203 Grenade Launcher:
http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2f27_m203grenade.gif

A question: is there any difference, performance-wise, between the M16 and the M4? Because if there is not, then they'll all just have M4s.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
03-05-2003, 06:56
tokarev tt33
http://www.armeriamiranda.com/armascortas/tokarev.gif

AK-74
http://www.army.lv/Oruzhie/Avtomati/Ak74/AK-74(4).jpg

RPKS2
http://www.army.lv/Oruzhie/Pulemeti/RPK/RPK(2).jpg
03-05-2003, 07:17
The Drone armies of The Dark Figure use the Styer (not sure if i spelt it correctly) rifle with bullets filled with toxic waste

all other weapons are classified
Oglethorpia
03-05-2003, 07:29
the standard officer's sidearm gun is the Colt XSE pistol:
http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2c_xse.gif

Most infantry either wield the M4A1 Carbine or the M16AZ Assault Rifle"

http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2f20_m4carbine.gif
http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2f16_m16a2.gif
All of which are equipped with the M203 Grenade Launcher:
http://www.colt.com/colt/assets/images/a2f27_m203grenade.gif

And yes, the OICW is a regular squad weapon in the Syskeyian Army:
http://www.urbanoperations.com/actd5.jpg

A question: is there any difference, performance-wise, between the M16 and the M4? Because if there is not, then they'll all just have M4s.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

I really only know of the date differences. The M16 was introduced pre/beginning of the Vietnam War, whereas the M4 is early 90s (if memory serves me, circa 1991-94)

I could be right, I could be wrong, so if anyone wants to correct me, feel free.

My own military is primarily composed of the SA-80 British rifle, M96 Recons (American gun) for SpecOps troops and lightweight versions for the paratroopers. We do not use grenade launchers, simply because they add unnecessary weight and can be unwieldy at times.

All of our guns are equipped with bayonets, though paratroopers carry them seperately.
03-05-2003, 07:33
Byzantium is patrolled by Monks that act like a police force. The Byzantine Fighting Monks are extremely respected by the people, and crime is relatively low, because instead of imbuing justing, they preserve valor and nationalist pride to the citizens of Byzantium.

For personal defense, all True Monks are given a Daisho and a 6' Iron Staff. They are Mastered of Zanji Shinjenkin-Ryo and Hapkido Cane Fighting. There have been several instances in which a handful of monks have disarmed and incapacitated terrorist grouped armed with much more modern weaponry.
Aerigia
03-05-2003, 07:45
The Federal Aerigian Armed Forces was formed fifteen years ago, as The People's Republic of Aerigia was broken up and merged with The Federal Republic of Aerigia. The Armed Forces uses a variety of weapons, depending on the situation.

The following lists the predominant firearms in use by the Aerigian Armed Forces:

Handguns:

AP940 Polymer Frame Pistol (Capacity 19 rounds 9mm/15 rounds .40S&W)
(Used by Marines and Rangers, lighter polymer frame)
[img=http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~jhipwell/images/g2000.gif]

AP9 Alloy Frame Pistol

Other special units are also been known to carry the Para-Ordanace high capacity .45, with mounted LAM module similar to the US MK.23. Glock 18C Select fire edition has also been used by some SEAL teams. Silent and Underwater pistols, inherited from the People's Republic of Aerigia, is also being improved and issued to special forces.

Submachine Guns (SMGs)

GMM5A (Lightweight Machine Pistol (Similar to Uzi, fittable with sights and silencer, 15/30 rounds of 9mm parabellum)

MP5-N/MP5A5/MP5K/MP5SD6/MP5/40 (15/30/60(extended) rounds of 9mm parabellum, (MP5/40 carries 15/30 rounds of .40S&W))

GMM88A (A SMG variant of the AMR-88 assault rifle, carries a 30 rounds 9mm clip, similar to the Israeli Tavor 2, but with designs of AUG and G36C integrated into it)


Assault Rifles:

Main:
AMR-88A2 (Bullpup Design, similar to Israeli Tavor-2, but with designs from G36C, AUG and Singapore SAR-21 integrated, 30/60 clear clip of 5.56mm)

Special Forces Use for conventional rifle design and apid firepower ZM Weapons LR-300, HK G36C, and 7.62X39 AK variants such as the AK-103

Other various units, such as reserved, and those stationed in South Aerigia carry the AMR-70, an AK variant rechambered for 5.56mm rounds.

Reserves and some troops choose the heavier AMR-64 7.62X51 for quick hitting-powered from a rather-old rifle.

Sniper Rifles:

Various Assault Rifle variants (SAMR-88, SAMR-64)
HK PSG-1
HK G3SG1
SIG SG3000
SIG SG550 Sniper
Accuracy International AWP .338 Lapua Magnum
Other various rifles such as Steyr Scout/Tango 51 - Mainly used for Police work

Heavy Sniper Rifles:
AWM .50 - .50BMG
SRA-2 12.7X108mm
Steyr 15mm

Light Machine Guns
Minimi M249 (5.56mm)
Vektor Mini SS

Medium Machine Guns
Vektor SS (7.62mm)
(AMG-88A, MG variant variant of AMR-88A2)

Shotguns:
Benelli XM1014, M3 Super 90, M4
Franchi SPAS-12, SPAS-15
Daewoo USAS-12
03-05-2003, 17:10
40,000 of our troops carry these M16A2 assault rifles:

http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~longbow/images/m16a2leftside.jpg

and 10,000 of our sniper units carry these:

http://www.tacproshootingcenter.com/pix/AI_05.jpg

Every soldier is also issued a M9 Beretta 9mm:

http://www.olive-drab.com/images/firearms_pistol_m9.jpg
03-05-2003, 17:26
This is what we use....

9mm Beretta
http://www.motionpicturearmourer.com/brent.2.gif

9mm Heckler & Koch MP5
http://www.motionpicturearmourer.com/9mmHecklerKochMP5wFlash.gif

5.56mm Colt M4 Tactical Carbine with M203 Grenade Launcher
http://www.motionpicturearmourer.com/556ColtM4CarbinewM203GrenLauncher.gif

5.56mm Colt M16A2 US Assault Rifle
http://www.motionpicturearmourer.com/brent.9.gif

M249 Squad Automatic Weapon
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/adjutant/m249.gif


General Om
Garrison II
03-05-2003, 17:31
The standard infantry man uses
http://www.secretweapon.com/images/secret/oicw-gun.jpg

OOC: You make all of you soldier trudge around with that heavy PoS?

That thing is heavier than many LMGs and if it runs out of power it's useless. I would suggest using the G36 as the standard weapon (since that is what the lower part of the gun basically is and the ammunition is interchangable) and you can equip that with an M203 pretty easily for a much lower cost (about 1/3 to 1/2).

I can't think of why a platoon would need more than 2 or 3 of the OICW.
We have a diffrent varient, with lighter materials, and troops carry extra bateries.
Western Asia
04-05-2003, 00:24
OOC: Explaination accepted. The block IIs for the US mil (set date: 2010) will weigh only 15.5 lbs...down from 17.5lbs in the 2007 Block Is.

A good argument against the OICW:
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/oicw.htm

Very good writings...if a bit overly...emphatic...at times.
04-05-2003, 01:42
Currently right now the Pepper Box is the most used Gun. However the new Fully Automatic Double Barrel 12 Gauge Shotguns (FADBaGS) will be in service soon.
Nianacio
04-05-2003, 04:31
A question: is there any difference, performance-wise, between the M16 and the M4? Because if there is not, then they'll all just have M4s.Yes. The shorter barrel creates a much shorter range.
Fooplatington
04-05-2003, 04:50
Zeonic forces

you are a Counter-Strike Phreak :D
Copiosa Scotia
04-05-2003, 04:53
These are our standard weapons.

OOC NOTE: These aren't supposed to be related to Star Trek. I just think they look cool. And just to be clear, I don't use energy weapons.

OOC: Nevertheless, EF is a great game.
04-05-2003, 06:47
Zeonic forces

you are a Counter-Strike Phreak :D

Unfortunately I never played the game but I have heard of it. Oh, I do like the the military a lot.
Fooplatington
04-05-2003, 06:48
Every weapon in your original post (Except the luger) was from CS :D
Nianacio
04-05-2003, 17:34
Every weapon in your original post (Except the luger) was from CS :DI thought every weapon in his original post was REAL.