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:evil: :twisted: i belive as an communist state that communism as a whole is much better than any domocracy because it delivers more truth about what the country is doing! its working for China! if anyone says other wise ill bomb the FUCK out of u! u facist pigs! i am willing to build a group of countries bound by an idea of a perfectly cleansed world! if u want to join my group send a reply.

Death To Democracy
LONG LIVE THE COMMUNISTS!!!!!!!!!!!

If u Belive join the Region: Stalins Group Against Bush

What's wrong with Timocracy? Thats a better way forward.

communism only works in theory, and only helps nations with crapped out economies(who cant feed their own people any other way, besides cannibalism of course)human nature and greed naturaly destroy something that works on such propositions. someone will suffer one way or another wether its ment ot happen or not, that is the way of things here on earth.

This is a perfect opportunity to show what the CACE stands against. Though BH is supposedly for communism, they are actually for Stalinism, and though they may outlaw private enterprise, they are no better than a militaristic fascist state in terms of how they treat their people.

The economy is a system of production and distribution, it is not an end in itself. If the economy fails to provide for all people, if it leaves people hungry, without medicine, housing or education, then it has failed. Capitalists would do well to remember this; your principles leave people hungry, while ours leave them secure.

Alexander Z. Soren
Minister of Politics
SeOCC

Iv joined the fight for better, less facist tomorrow

Move your nation now to 'Stalins group against bush' :lol:

Face it he cant actually read or write so why should he be a president.

Join My Region against Democracy!

Its been proven that democracy doesn't work in America, he didn't care what the people thought about Iraq!
He's a Con! He Forged the elections, Gore is the rightful president! stand up for urselfs become one of us!

my region is: Stalins group against bush

:evil: :twisted: i bleive as an communist state that communism as a whole is much better than any domocracy because it delivers more truth about what the country is doing! its working for China! if anyone says other wise ill bomb the f--- out of u! u facist pigs! i am willing to build a group of countries bound by an idea of a perfectly cleansed world! if u want to join my group send a reply.

Death To Democracy
LONG LIVE THE COMMUNISTS!!!!!!!!!!!

If u Belive join the Region: Stalins Group Against Bush

communism is flawed from the start. Although its ideals are honorable, Communism is the creation of a power vacum, and so as long as there are humans, there will always be corruption within communism..

Join My Region against Democracy!

Its been proven that democracy doesn't work in America, he didn't care what the people thought about Iraq!
He's a Con! He Forged the elections, Gore is the rightful president! stand up for urselfs become one of us!

my region is: Stalins grup aginst bush

Funny how the majority of American's support the war. IE. Democracy has worked.
As for communism being more truthful,
First, communism isn't an government model, its an economy model.
Perhaps you're looking for socialism or dictatorship
As for them being more "truthful"
hahahahahahahaha

u just follow the leader don't u! flocked into his ideal of command and conquer! America cannot and will not police the world! what does a 200 year old civalisation have the right to dictate whats wrong about others!
whats worse is that ur culture is spreading like bacteria!
ingulfing us and becoming more powerful!
Fuck America and its Ideal!

:evil: Oh come on, you cannot possibly be serious. The form of gov't does not determine whether a nation is "good or bad". It is supposed to be a body to protect the rights of its citizens and pursue its interests. The form of gov't is just what either the people or the aristocracy, or possibly the millitary leader thinks is best. Now, sometimes the gov't does not work out this way. Sometimes, the leader can become corrupted or just value power and wealth over the people that they are supposed to protect. Sometimes the dictator is completely corrupt or a sadist, in which case states like WW 2 Germany or recent Iraq are possible. Communists, because communism has already been proven impossible, are mildly corrupt or just stupid. Don't do communism, it kills brain cells. Democracy is an effective way to govern a country. The reason that the electoral college was invented was that in the event that the presidential race is very close, the popular vote is not always what is what is desired. If the popular vote wins, he could become too powerful, or too popular and split the nation. Don't get me wrong, I like bush.

God have mercy on you, godless commie bastereds. My righteous crusades will sweep aside your evil communist empires. As it says in the Bible: "High Priest Dhoregnohb is God, worship him" Repent now and become my slaves or burn in the fires of Baator for all eternity. Communism is Satan incarnate, for it preaches for the evils of equality. Only by following the teachings of, well... me, can you be saved. Become my slaves or suffer eternal death, So it is written. You must follow righteous icons of religious truth, like me and president Bush. Serve me or Burn. I am GOD!!!

well now my American neighbours! WW2 only happened because democracy was forced apon the germans after WW1 which created such parties as the nazi party! it was ur failure!
Communism does work! its working for chinese! okay i didn't work for the russians just like democracy didn't work for America except ur denying it!

Firstly: China is not a communist state. Never has been, and certainly is not now. The Chinese government was certainly not put into power by a revolt by the proles. All the leaders of the 'communist' party were educated abroad (how do you think they learned about communism?). China tried working in communes, but that didn't work and huge numbers of people died. Is that your idea of communism 'working in China'?

Secondly, I find it strangely ironic. Are you typing all this garbage on an American computer? Are you using American OS? (And is Max Barry American?). Perhaps you should have tried bad-mouthing Stalinist Russia in Russia at that time, just like you bad-mouth the US right now. Do you think you would have lived for long? The freedom of speech is one of those American ideals that you so vehemently oppose.

Oh yes, Democracy not working in the US? Ahahahaha. I suppose it was a fluke they have a great economy and have one of the best (or THE best) military in the world?

One final question. In what country do you live, Bushs Hipocracy? I'm just a little curious.

Communism actually does work.. in theory, and maybe on nationstates.. But in real world? I'm sad to say, but no. There is always some idiots that call themselves communists but in real world, are fascists. In really, i support communism, not a word about my nation is a dictatorship. Sebytania has big problems because it's old leader supported fascism. Now it's hard to get things back right. Um, and you call yourself a communist, and your region is "stalins fight against bush"? Eh, did you know that Stalin was one of those mad fascists that call himself a communist but tortures the people.

Well, Bushs Hipocracy, i'm with you about one thing: what the hell does bush think? That USA is the biggest country there? Well, if you ask me, he's wrong about that he could control the whole world! If he does, i'm sure that countries like Russia will be against USA.. Blair isn't so bad, Bush is the worst. A 200-years old country would control the world? Let me laugh! Okay, well, Finland hasn't been a self-governing nation very long, from 1917, but it has a very big history as Sweden-Finland and other. Well, what was there in America on that time? Indians! And by the way, Columbus wasn't the first on America, for example Vikings were about 1000 years before him. And i'm sure that many people from Europe have found it before too, but just not returned. They may be killed by indians or then they had peace and staid there. Bush is not on Iraq for Saddam, he's for the oil! And you americans: If he "just wants to kill Hussein", why the hell does his troops prison and kill inconnent civilians? Yeah, tell me that!

Listen, in war, civilians die. It is as simple as that and is a sad fact of life. Accept it, move on. The United States have done the most out of all countries (much more than Satlinist Russia) to prevent civilian casualties, yet they recieve the most flak on the said topic. I do not like Bush, I do not like his policies in the US on almost everything, but he is right about the war. He is right about Iraq.

If ur such a free and lovely state that cares for others why have the most powerful army? u spent on ur miltary last year then all or the countries in the world combined!
U got so rich by invading countires such as Iraq for oil, and now ur going to sell it back to ur american companies!
What country? what does it matter? 2 thirds of the world hate america just say im in that part hey?

Two thirds of the world? Where did you pull that figure from?

Uh, wait, hold on, you're critisizing the US for having a military, yet you apparently worship Stalin? Stalin did not fight off Nazi Germany by diplomacy or by other 'peaceful' means, he fought them off. Yes FOUGHT them off with an ARMY.

The United States have an army to protect themselves. You do not seriously think that the US should never defend themselves? You think that America should not have used its military during WW2? The American army is there to protect American ideals, which includes the freedom of speech you are currently exercising right now.

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When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.

He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."

It became very quiet in the room.

Two thirds of the world? Where did you pull that figure from?

Uh, wait, hold on, you're critisizing the US for having a military, yet you apparently worship Stalin? Stalin did not fight off Nazi Germany by diplomacy or by other 'peaceful' means, he fought them off. Yes FOUGHT them off with an ARMY.

The United States have an army to protect themselves. You do not seriously think that the US should never defend themselves? You think that America should not have used its military during WW2? The American army is there to protect American ideals, which includes the freedom of speech you are currently exercising right now.

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When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.

He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."

It became very quiet in the room.
Oh please, you conservative republican! The USA has not got the rights to interfere with how a country is being governed. Idiot.

Today CNN showed live pictures of Iraqi civilians dancing in the streets. They were pulling down statues and murals of Saddam Hussein. They were giving cigarettes and flowers and candy to the soldiers. They were dancing, laughing, singing, and waving the pre-Gulf War Iraqi flag (the one that doesn't have the arabic script on it). Even the Arab networks like al-Jazeera have been unable to ignore or gloss over these images.

They were celebrating their freedom. Freedom America brought them.

To me, that is all the justification this war will ever need.

Lady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
"Free peoples will chart the course of history." -US President George W. Bush, 2003 State of the Union address

I agree with Menalmacar; this was a war that had to be fought and was overdue for about 10 years.
Communists and facist dictators are the plague of the earth. Why? Because according to them all people should have equal opportunity and therefor; equal pay. Why does man have free will again? To make or break his own back, that's why. Communism works great on a small scale because it relies on trust. You trust that the person next to you is pulling their own share and if they aren't, it is easy to remedy the problem because you all know and love each other. However; on a large scale, you cannot trust the person next to pull their share. If they aren't doing their share, they get a free ride on the backs of the nation. IF EVERYONE GETS THE SAME IDEA OF DOING THE SAME THING; YOU GET COLLAPSE, FAMINE, HUNGER AND DISEASE. Capitalistc and democratic/republican forms of government enable each person to fufill their own potential. The US has programs established to help the less well off to also succeed; but they must also try to succeed or the system fails. Communism has failed in the global theater. Look at North Korea, starved with hunger. Look at the former Soviet Union; now a pile of rubble. Look at China; land of the kidney selling and home of all that embodies the antithesis of human rights. Communist people are not free to say what they want to; they are not free to do what they want to; they are not free to succeed; they are not free to live as all human beings should--Free.

well im back again and with revenge! no country's people has a choice in how the country is run or delt with democracy=nazi party, etc. but in a communist society u know it!
everybody would have jobs, homed. maybe not have good ones but at least they can't suck off the state for the cash to survive.
i think that any country would be productive, belive me stalins rule wasn't the most perfect thing and shouldn't be remember as a example of communism but nor should nazi's for democracy. communism is not a dictatorship do not get confused.

Communism is NOT a dictatorship. Communism (at least Marxist communism) involves the complete dissolution of government.

And if you bomb so much as a housecat, the WMNK Coalition will step in.

With a title like Bush's Hippocracy, I'll assume that your are an environmental weanie, a liberal, a PETAist (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals), a greenpeace nut, a political vegetarian (I have nothing wrong with vegetariansm for health or religious purposes) and a long haired, pot smoking hippie. But aside from that stereotype, I would have to criticize your conclusions; if you could address the points I made about communism, maybe we could get a good old "Cold War' debate going here.

Whats the quote "i cant belive i won against peace, love and freedom" what bush said to the swedish president after the election.
what gives u as america the right to state what other counties should do just tell me!
because ur the most powerful?
because u have the "American Dream"? the false hope for freedom
or just because u can?
America can't state jack! and espeically go against the U.N with this illegal war.
it just makes me sick! how America thinks it knows how the world should be run when 2 thirds of the citizens dont have passports to even leave the country! What a Joke!

Wait a minute; if you are putting Democracy and Naziism in the same bed, I think you need to go back to school and get your head on straight about different types of government. Also, I couldn't help but notice your faliure to grasp even the most basic concept of Democracy. Do me a favor: go research Ancient Greece and read up on Athens(Pericles, Thucydides, Demosthenes etc...) and other forms of early pre-republic forms of government, then come back and I'll try to have a logical debate with you. This includes you too Slagland. But for now....energizing inferior intellect ingnorance cannon.....

For God's sake, know what you are talking about before you say it! And get a dictionary, my liberal Scandanavian freind.

Well the Nazi Party was a party within a democratic society, they were voted in! (not like Bush)
i would like to say that im not a pot smoking hippie and that kind of ignorant sterotyping is really what i hate about America tell me have u crossed the Atlantic?
To see that war isnt always the answer, espiecally for finacial gain which this war is really about. Black Gold.

Our American Dream has much more than you, my freind, could even imagine. That is why thousands upon thousands of Irish, Scottish, French, German, Swedish, and Norwegian people came here in the first place. We are a country of freedom and of a free society where "...all men are considered equal and endowed by their creator with certain inenalienable rights, and among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..."

I sense much hatred in your flawed rhetoric, my freind. Have you ever read the Aesops fable about the fox and the grapes? I would highly recommend it as it seems that it has many parallels with your temperment.

I have spent many years teaching at the University in Stockholm and am quite familiar with the liberal enclave and the communist state of mind. I even used to be a communist. Then I immigrated to America and saw the that the communist world was a lie.
As for Bush not being Democratically elected; what was the election about? All those pain in the ass recounts confirmed that he was the winner.

Just for your information; the Nazi party rose out of a radical right wing "workers movement", not a democracy.

What year did you graduate from college if I may ask?

Lets hold on to the keyword "American" in American dream shall we? and it should stay in America.
But now u reduced the amount of immigrants coming to your country under their own choice are sent home, isn't that taking away their freedom? let people have the choice to live ur dream, dont force it on them like the 22 countries u've forced it on since WW2. it is not bigger than me more anyone seeing as it is just a stupid ideal made up by British Aristocrats. We are greater than it as human being that should have choices to discard or keep that dream.
still have u crossed the Atlantic?

Well, good that Saddam is dead, and now i think Bush should leave Iraq immediately. But does he? No, he want's to rule Iraq. Well, maybe it's better to have someone guarding that there will not be more dictators like Saddam. Saddam is gone. USA has done it's job in Iraq. USA can leave Iraq now.

Well since i seem to be "calling the shots", if you will, for this debate; I propose we talk about the war with Iraq. As of today, American troops moved into the center of Bagdhad and stood there un-opposed. Civilians threw flowers and rejoiced; they looted Saddam Hussein' palaces and Republican Guard garrisons. So far, they seem pretty happy that he is gone. While the war isn't over yet, the "fall" of Bagdhad is a very significant event. It seems that the people of Iraq want us there; contrary to your beliefs I am assuming.

I did graduate from University in 2000 not college thank u! seeing as i've been and gone.
i should think u should read the book of the year "stupid white men" by Michael Moore an American. That will tell how he didn't get the most votes, and how corrupt ur nation really is.
First of all, if u start calling scandivian and giving insults i don't bleive u acctually lived outside of america seeing as i don't belive that u lived outside of it for if so u lived in a communist country i dont think u would make that remark. Unless ur really the racist and childish

Back to Bush's Hippocracy's original question: "have u crossed the Atlantic?"

Well let me ask you this: where did you go to school and where did you learn your Geography? I did say that I taught in Stockholm, Sweden.

well seeing u referred "they want as us there". i thought that u were in American sorry i didn't mean to insult u! yes i have crossed the atlantic and have even been to sweden,(Travelled as student) and my subject i did get a degree was in Environmental Geoscience where i Aquired a Masters and PHD. Which really is Geography.

Yes, i think we should talk about Iraq. i don't think america will leave intill they bleed the country dry of Oil reserves.

Well, it always ends like this; young, fired up liberals fresh out of college(still wet behind the ears) who think they have the world by the string and have vastly distorted ideas about the world because the teachers who taught them happened to smoke pot in the 60's. Eventually, they all crack and cannot hold up their end of a logical debate for long; they have to start the insults and babyish questions. I was really expecting much better from you, but apparently I was wrong. As a representative of all that you stand for and the hatred you bear America, you should be ashamed of yourself and the kind of debate you are attempting to carry on with me. You have numerous flaws in your speech, grammar and syntax, even more in your arguments, and have a terribly distorted sense of who you really are and what the world is really like in both a literal and figurative sense. I can only wish you the best in whatever path you may chose in life. I would also like to apologize to you and your parents for the terrible education you have recieved. The quality of your writing could be outdone by even my 15 year old grandson; your Geography is atrocious, and your mastery over High-School level history has yet to be shown. Wait till you're in your sixties, then look back on all the foolish decisions you have made; then you might see what I see. But for now, I shall consider myself the victor in this argument. Your poor discipline and childish beahvior is astounding for someone who has completed college.

The people of Lomastan would rather enjoy prosperity than poverty. Of course, this is no longer an In-Character debate....


...Communism has killed more innocent people than any other idealogy, to the best of my knowledge. A good part of this is from the fact that it is a sufficiently brutal political idealogy that was applied when there were a lot of people wandering around.

20-30 million in the Stalinist USSR (about 30 years)
Many millions in Mao's Cultural Revolution
Add in a few assorted millions from Latin American communists, maybe include Pol Pot (another 20 million)

Communism was originally intended as an economic system, not a political system. Even then, it doesn't really work well (China has been adopting free market solutions to increase the wealth of its population ever since Deng Jiaoping became the leader). As a political system (Leninism, Maoism, etc.) it tends to be brutal in the extreme.

Socialism, on the other hand, is a bit of a different story. The majority of the world's nations today are socialist. Socialism is defined as having a mix of private and public ownership, while communism is all public and strict capitalism is all private. These are of course academic definitions and are subject to change as rhetoric demands.

But what Bush Hippocrasy (sic.) is advancing isn't really Communism at all so much as it is a systematic condemnation of US policy, both domestic and abroad. He's welcome to do so, and constructive criticism is of course always welcome. However, it is difficult to challenge the unmitigated success of the United States on an intelligent basis.

One of his principle claims, which was that the USA makes most of its prosperity on plundering smaller nations like Iraq, doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. That is, if the United States just wanted as much oil as possible, it could follow the Russian and French example, and simply buy it from the current regime in exchange, perhaps, for weapons etc.

The USA has gone to many wars of late, but they are usually not in resource-rich areas. Iraq seems to be the exception rather than the rule. For example, let's take a look at places attacked by significant American forces in the last 5 or 6 years. Kosovo, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq, maybe a couple others that I can't remember right now. Most of these nations are not wealthy; there's simply nothing there to plunder. Economic aggrandizement is not a principle US foreign policy goal (although the spread of Liberal Capitalism like we have in the USA is the US' primary goal)

Now, if you want to discuss historical US policy I might be inclined to agree with you. There's always been a bit of myopia in Washington (where I live currently) between what's best for countries we want to help and what's best for us. But ever since the end of the Cold War, things have been going a little differently.

Most importantly, people on both sides of this argument should provide, or be willing to provide if asked, credible sources to back up their claims. Unless of course you just want a flame war, in which case, well, bite me, I hope you die. :)

Sorry, I tend to get caught up in my writing and almost never post until it is too late. OK. on to Iraq.

Lomastan, I would like to applaud your sense of reality and good composition. Carry on.

Ahhhh! Your Lying astounds me! So what if i have bad english, and you seem to be in the only one giving out insults. Maybe when you learn to use paragraphing and use such words as High-School and College i will fail to belive you acctually live in Sweden. As for your 15 year grandson, i feel sorry that his grammer is looked on so contemptly by his own grandfather, that goes on websites such as NationStates, espiecally if his grandfather was a young slut or is in his sixtys and is in on this site. I so sorely disbelive.
As for finishing a debate is not be trying to prove the other person wrong by pointing out grammer errors, but is won by changing my mind about the matter at hand and proving a point, which you did not do. Seeing as we did change the subject you did not even start the debate let alone start it.

Lomastan, I would like to applaud your sense of reality and good composition. Carry on.

I had good teachers, and argue with the best of them. Thank you! ;)

Well, my time is up, and I have to go take my granddaughter to her ballet practice. Thank you Bush's Hipocrasy for the opportunity to debate/argue with you; I'm sorry I ended on a bad note, my blood pressure starts to rise and it all starts coming back to me...theological debates with swedish liberals....answering questions about politics when I was in Vietnam...etc...
By all, I hope this debate was strengthening to everyone's ideals, even though I think all communists should come over here to the land of the free and the home of the brave to get a taste of true freedom.

Semper Victor! (Latin, Always Victory)

But wait! Bush's Hippocrasy (now BH <Bullshit in Hindsight>) will not leave the matter at that. I did not say that I live in Sweden, I said that I livED in Sweden and taught in Stockholm. As for "slut in the 60's", I can't believe that you know so much about me; ironically, I was a communist in the early 60's, but converted in the mid 60's. As for playing Nation States at 60, how young do you have to be to use a computer for fun? What is a Ph.D doing playing games? I thought that your degree woulf be rather demanding of your time if you took your work seriously. Stop embarrasing yourself young man. As for all the paragraph breaks, I learned to type on a typwriter; since then, creaky joints have taken over; it makes it hard for me to hit enter, and Im too lazy to do it with my index finger.

Finally, my faith in humanity is restored somewhat.
Lomastan and Albetaron, thanks for being intelligent, and proving that not all people are morons.

:evil: :twisted: i belive as an communist state that communism as a whole is much better than any domocracy because it delivers more truth about what the country is doing! its working for China! if anyone says other wise ill bomb the f--- out of u! u facist pigs! i am willing to build a group of countries bound by an idea of a perfectly cleansed world! if u want to join my group send a reply.

Death To Democracy
LONG LIVE THE COMMUNISTS!!!!!!!!!!!

If u Belive join the Region: Stalins Group Against Bush
Sigh... You are not a true communist. There's a huge difference between communism and stalinism.

As a final note i would like to say that im acctually a 16 year old socialist trying to see peoples view (espiecally social inept americans) on their views on communism, i would like to thank every one on their great debating skills and valid points espiecally the swedish teacher! i sure did wind u up.
i do not think communism is perfect but what is? i hope there will be a solution in the future where people really are free not consumed in a false dream.

But wait! Bush's Hippocrasy (now BH <Bullshit in Hindsight>) will not leave the matter at that. I did not say that I live in Sweden, I said that I livED in Sweden and taught in Stockholm. As for "slut in the 60's", I can't believe that you know so much about me; ironically, I was a communist in the early 60's, but converted in the mid 60's. As for playing Nation States at 60, how young do you have to be to use a computer for fun? What is a Ph.D doing playing games? I thought that your degree woulf be rather demanding of your time if you took your work seriously. Stop embarrasing yourself young man. As for all the paragraph breaks, I learned to type on a typwriter; since then, creaky joints have taken over; it makes it hard for me to hit enter, and Im too lazy to do it with my index finger.

IC: Albertaron has our support if he needs it
OOC: See, this is the type of person people should look up too. Someone who thinks rationally and is sensible.
BH needs to stop inculting people, before he ruins his credibility anymore.

As a final note i would like to say that im acctually a 16 year old socialist trying to see peoples view (espiecally social inept americans) on their views on communism, i would like to thank every one on their great debating skills and valid points espiecally the swedish teacher! i sure did wind u up.
i do not think communism is perfect but what is? i hope there will be a solution in the future where people really are free not consumed in a false dream.

I'm 19, American, and in college.
As for being socially inept, hardly.
I perfer rational arguements backed with valid statements and truths.
You have provided none of these, responding with insults rather than intelligent arguement and that makes you the inept one on this forum.

Communism would be a fine, if it weren't for human nature which would quickly corrupt that economic model.
Like world peace, it's a pipe dream.

I believe that one can acheive pretty much anything through hard work.
And if you work hard, you should be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
If you don't work hard and end up in a bad position, that's your fault.
Although there should be some government help to keep those who really are inable to get out of a rut.

Well, my time is up, and I have to go take my granddaughter to her ballet practice. Thank you Bush's Hipocrasy for the opportunity to debate/argue with you; I'm sorry I ended on a bad note, my blood pressure starts to rise and it all starts coming back to me...theological debates with swedish liberals....answering questions about politics when I was in Vietnam...etc...
By all, I hope this debate was strengthening to everyone's ideals, even though I think all communists should come over here to the land of the free and the home of the brave to get a taste of true freedom.

Semper Victor! (Latin, Always Victory)

I think your reasoning is flawed sir, in several ways.

1) You applaud the U.S. "unmitigated success". What is your measure of success? I certainly wouldn't look upon the developed nation with the
a) highest murder rate
b) greatest wealth disparities
c) no systematized healthcare
as an unmitigated success. I think the case for calling a nation such as Sweden or Canada is a success is indeed a lot stronger. The average quality of life in these (and many other) nations is significantly higher than that of the states. I would consider quality of life an excellent measure of the success of a nation. However, if you feel differently, please explain.

2) You indulge in much "land of the free" rhetoric, but in many ways, justice and basic freedoms are largely (IMO) determined by socio-economic reasons. While everyone does have the freedom to succeed in life, a nation where some have so much more opportunity to prosper than others a flawed one. For example, both a trust fund baby and a child born into debt and destitution theoretically have the same capacity to prosper, but realistically speaking, the trust find child has a tremendous, unearned, and in many ways unfair advantage. Is the just? I say no. Also, it seems ironic to praise a nation for its freedoms when its government is actually dissolving them at a stomach churning pace.

3) I think your criticism of BH's accusation of an unfair election are ungrounded. In all honestly, Bush did not win through popularity, but through institutions which worked in his favour. (primarily electoral colleges and a supreme court bursting at the seam with republicans)

4) Related to 3 is the essentially undemocratic nature of the US electoral system. The "first past the post" two party system is inherently detrimental to a government representative of the desires of the people. While it does force strong, majority governments, it only does so at the cost of democracy itself.

While I am certainly not advocating a communist system ( I do believe in a more or less liberal market) I have a serious problem with the unregulated cutthroat economy practised by the US. This is a system that has produced a nation powerful, but rotting on the inside, a nation containing mindboggling wealth, but one that is willing to sit back and let its fellow humans die.

2) You indulge in much "land of the free" rhetoric, but in many ways, justice and basic freedoms are largely (IMO) determined by socio-economic reasons. While everyone does have the freedom to succeed in life, a nation where some have so much more opportunity to prosper than others a flawed one. For example, both a trust fund baby and a child born into debt and destitution theoretically have the same capacity to prosper, but realistically speaking, the trust find child has a tremendous, unearned, and in many ways unfair advantage. Is the just? I say no. Also, it seems ironic to praise a nation for its freedoms when its government is actually dissolving them at a stomach churning pace.

3) I think your criticism of BH's accusation of an unfair election are ungrounded. In all honestly, Bush did not win through popularity, but through institutions which worked in his favour. (primarily electoral colleges and a supreme court bursting at the seam with republicans)

4) Related to 3 is the essentially undemocratic nature of the US electoral system. The "first past the post" two party system is inherently detrimental to a government representative of the desires of the people. While it does force strong, majority governments, it only does so at the cost of democracy itself.

While I am certainly not advocating a communist system ( I do believe in a more or less liberal market) I have a serious problem with the unregulated cutthroat economy practised by the US. This is a system that has produced a nation powerful, but rotting on the inside, a nation containing mindboggling wealth, but one that is willing to sit back and let its fellow humans die.

About the babies, yes one is at a disadvantage, but did you ever consider that the well-off babie's parent's earned that money to give their baby that very advantage. Not entirely fair, but life isn't about everything being fair.
I'm going to a college that has a yearly tuition of $30,000.
Which is way too much for my family to afford. How'd I get here?
Hard work.

When less than half of you voting populace votes, nobody has a majority of support.
The electoral college was created in an attempt to prevent canindates from running in big cities alone.
Without them, canidates would only have to focus on big city issues to win the election, and would end up neglecting the rural communities and agriculture issues, which are important to the well being of the nation.
Bush isn't the first to have won by the electoral college.

It would be wise to attempt to level the playing field for people at the beginning of their lives, but they should also be held responsible for their actions. If you slack off and end up poor, that's you fault, not mine, so I shouldn't have to pay for you.