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Question about "Don't Puff On Me, Say Non-Smokers"

05-01-2004, 20:14
What are the effects on civil rights of choosing each solution?


Don't Puff On Me, Say Non-Smokers


"I'm in full support of this motion," says man on the street Stephanie Wu. "I'm sick of being stuck behind smokers, sucking in their pollution! They can light up in the privacy of their own homes, if they want."
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"What's so special about their homes?" says anti-smoking campaigner Jennifer Silk. "The government has a responsibility to stop people from hurting themselves -- it's the same reason we should make them wear seat belts in cars. Sooner or later, they end up in one of Petite Bourgeoisie's hospitals, sucking on taxpayer-funded healthcare. Not that that's why we should ban smoking. We should ban it because we care."
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"Get your hands off my fag!" wheezes long-time smoker Bill Dodinas. "I've been smoking for fifty years and it's never done me any harm. Helps me concentrate, it does! The government should back off on trying to tell me what I can put into my own body. Telling a smoker he can't light up in a restaurant is discrimination, pure and simple. If you want to put a stop to unfairness, stop that."
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Demo-Bobylon
05-01-2004, 20:24
I think...
1. Reduces them a bit
2. Reduces them quite a lot
3. Improves them slightly

But 1 and 2 improve health.
Emperor Matthuis
05-01-2004, 22:46
What are the effects on civil rights of choosing each solution?


Don't Puff On Me, Say Non-Smokers


"I'm in full support of this motion," says man on the street Stephanie Wu. "I'm sick of being stuck behind smokers, sucking in their pollution! They can light up in the privacy of their own homes, if they want."
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"What's so special about their homes?" says anti-smoking campaigner Jennifer Silk. "The government has a responsibility to stop people from hurting themselves -- it's the same reason we should make them wear seat belts in cars. Sooner or later, they end up in one of Petite Bourgeoisie's hospitals, sucking on taxpayer-funded healthcare. Not that that's why we should ban smoking. We should ban it because we care."
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"Get your hands off my fag!" wheezes long-time smoker Bill Dodinas. "I've been smoking for fifty years and it's never done me any harm. Helps me concentrate, it does! The government should back off on trying to tell me what I can put into my own body. Telling a smoker he can't light up in a restaurant is discrimination, pure and simple. If you want to put a stop to unfairness, stop that."
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Just thought i point that out but i think option 2 will make your civil rights go down by a lot
Oobag
08-01-2004, 04:38
I think options 1 and 2 would mostly affect personal freedoms, not civil rights. Civil rights are things like the right to vote, the right to a fair trial, or the right not to be discriminated against. If people can't smoke where they want to, that sounds like a limit on their personal freedom to me.

Although option 3 might increase civil rights slightly, since they mention discrimination in that one...