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F/A - 25 'Lindorm' [For Sale! Only limited export]

Spiritu Sante
18-05-2006, 00:27
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The F/A-25

// History //

As the cost of a F-22 being simply outrageous and it's ability to maneuver and payload hampered it was viewed as a waste of money and so a fighter to replace that state of the art was made to, 1. Fill the needs of Sparta Infensus & The Valens Res Publica; 2. Provide more bang for your buck per-say. This fighter is the most maneuverable, fast, technologically advanced, lightest, and heaviest payload plane for the money you spend.

// Specifications //

Official Designation: F/A-25 ‘Lindorm’
Type: Advanced Air Superiority Fighter/Bomber [And hopefully with further R&D Interceptor]
Length: 67 feet, 5 inches
Wingspan: 43 feet, 7 inches
Height: 13 feet, 11 inches
Propulsion: 2 x Full-Spectrum Electric XF-121 Turboram engines
Total Net Thrust: 44,750 lbf (Without the use of the Ramjet)
Empty Weight: 30,934 lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 72,000 lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight (0.35): 32,195 lbs
Engine Weight (total): 11,227 lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s):
[Internal]

16 Missiles

Upon 4 bay's
2 Bays each side
4 Missile holding spinning 6 shooter like loaders in diamond formations.

4 Bombs internal bomb-bay.

External

12 Missiles.

(1 x 2) Missile pod per pylon/hard point upon 3 hard points on each wing

Or

8 Missile and 2 extra Fuel tanks

1 Fuel Tank and 3 Missile Pods per wing.
With 2 hard points per wing plus 1 on the wing tip.

Maximum Payload: 19,949 lbs
Normal Combat Weight: Untested
Combat Range: 920 miles
Ferry Range: 15,33 miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 50,200 ft
Maximum Altitude: 61,200 ft
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Super Cruising Speed: Mach 2.1 W/O Ramjets
Maximum Speed Without the Ramjet: Mach 2.2
Maximum Speed With the use of the Ramjet: Mach 5+
Crew (List): 1 (Pilot)
Cost to Build: $93 million
Price: $98 million
Profit per Plane Sold: $5 million

// General //

Crusader Weapons and Full-Spectrum Electronics were called upon by Sparta Infensus and Valens Res Publica to replace the F-22 as a superior fighter. Being able to carry more of a payload. Go faster; maneuver much, MUCH better, and have 3/4ths the RADAR cross section, and have a larger payload. These were the requirements and they were filled perfectly with this beauty of a plane. Having never been tested as both countries lack the proper facilities they now look outward to different Nations and Countries to combat test this plane.

// Airframe/Construction //

Airframe Makeup: 55% Titanium-Aluminide; 20% Super light durable plastics and polymers, 25% Al-Y-Ni Alloy, within a honeycomb frame

The F-25 uses a tri-surface configuration; with dual RAM coated canards, One aspect of the F-25 is its "switchblade wings" as their function is similar to that of a switchblade knife. At approximately 398 knots or 458 mph, the outer, forward-swept portion of the wing folds inward, leaving just the rearward-sweeping wings. At the same time, the twin ruddervators, normally in a "V" shape, fold down; so they are level with the aircraft's other wings. It is this wing configuration that gives the most Lindorm its incredible maneuverability across such a wide range of speeds. With the wingtips deployed, it has all the advantages of forward-swept wings, but since the 'switchblades' retract as speed increases (and are fully stowed well prior to mach transition), extreme wingtip twisting does not occur. The clean delta or spade configuration enables efficient, low-resistance high mach travel. Also the Canards feature leading flaps, flaperon's, and ailerons as do the normal wings. Deploying flaps causes a large nose-down pitching moment, to alleviate this effect swing-wing canard surface which swept forwards to counteract the effect of deploying flaps as to also give it extra lift at lower speeds and at higher speeds it makes this aircraft the most maneuverable ever made; a fighter unparalleled by any other.

// Propulsion/Engine //

Full-Spectrum Electric XF-121 Turboram engines, rated at 15,978 lbf (dry) each, with a 3D thrust vectoring control, allowing for a hyper-high amount of maneuverability. Which makes it a fighter unparalleled by any other. These engines are essentially normal Turbofan engines with a Ramjet built in. As once a speed where the Ramjet can effectively be used; being mach 1+ the turbo fan is turned off to use only the ramjet where the plane can then effectively reach speeds of Mach 5+

Thrust-to-weight Ratio: 8/1
Engine Weight (individual): 4,309 lbs

// Electronics/Avionics //

The F-25 utilizes the fly-by-optics system for the highest maneuverability possible, necessary in Air Superiority. Information is relayed to the pilot through 2 Super-High resolution TTFT screen, with most of the crucial information available through integrated avionics, in a dual screen configuration . (one main, one secondary screen’s) AVRS (Advanced Voice Recognition System) capability is available and is the primary source of changing displayed information instead of using the touch screens and distracting the pilot from his main task being controlling the plane. Thus allowing the pilot the maximum adaptability to the situation. Using a beyond visual range targeting system known as the AN-AGP 112 which allows the pilot of the F-25 to control his attacks in a full 360 degree radius. A LADAR sensor suite, which can help by tracking as far as 80 km and can map the area under the plane to provide a 3D real time map up to 40Km which can be brought up on the main LCD. Though the active radar which has a forward looking radius of 130 degrees and farther than any other RADAR for an aircraft known makes it the newest predator of the skies. A AN/ALQ-210 ECM pod; to hide it’s self from radar using planes, the ALQ-210 using TTFT’s to reduce it’s weight in comparison to ALQ-131 ECM Pod used by the USAF the by 85% and increase it’s effectiveness by nearly 800%! A EALR-52E Radar Warning Receiver which gives an early warning to a possible lock on or imminent lock on; as well as increasing it’s effectiveness in comparison to a current USAF Radar Warning Receiver by nearly 915% also through the use of TTFT’s! Despite that it comes ridden with area’s to store flares and chaff of the users preference. None is sold stock with the plane as none has been developed by the country and there are no alliances to provide Spiritu Sante with chaff or infrared flares cheaply.



// Weapons/Armament //

The F-25 has 6 Bays. 2 On each side meaning 4 parallel side bays and 2 ventral weapons bays. The 4 parallel side bays are meant for the carrying of missiles; and the 2 ventral for bombs. The ventral bays have stations for 4 bombs. 2 bombs in each bay which opens up a second before dropping to keep the radar signature low. The two bombs are in a vertical line, one behind the other.

Each side missile bay has a rotating 4 missile 6-shooting like loader. Meaning when 1 missile is dispensed the loader is rotated towards the next missile. This means (4 x 4) and 16 missiles total with 8 more internal in a dual horizontal missile configuration. Which means four missiles, two missiles upon a single hard-point one behind the other. (4 x 2)

A single retractable 35mm, HV Coilgun which is located directly under the cockpit; directly before the ventral bomb-bay.

// Counter Measures //

To ensure that LIDAR/LADAR equipment can’t successfully track the Lindorm, it employs laser scrambling systems that will scramble any light waves or laser beams. This ensures that the enemy can’t track the aircraft with light-oriented tracking devices also known as a Laser Dazzler. Also, thanks TTFT's ressiliance and ruggedness and exra measures to make it more refractive to EMP strikes. This plane wont fall out of the sky at an EMP strike.
Spiritu Sante
21-05-2006, 04:33
OOC: Yay I finally have my internet back! Three days without internet; it drives a man mad... <.<; >.> [/OOC]

As several hundred more planes rolled off the production lines thanks to Mass-Production plants and the healthy amount of well educated engineers working on it. At any possible time; 12+ a day could be manufactured. Which is pretty astounding for a population of only 10 million. It was all thanks to technological advances and the emphasis on money being put into education and defense.

These several hundred planes were immediately split up into groups, whose sizes varied upon the size of the AFB. Such as Robbins AFB getting 115 of these planes due to it's enormity; while on the other hand Martinez AFB only got 45 due to its size and it's strategical importance. Now Spiritu Sante would be well within terms to defend its self from any country up to 10x larger in size and 50x larger in Air Force due to this super advanced; hyper-maneuverable; ludicrously fast plane.
Spiritu Sante
23-05-2006, 02:42
OOC: Damn, my plane > All and still nobody wants to buy it... Day'uum
Tinsuvilia
23-05-2006, 02:46
OOC: I think (unconfirmed, I've heard many varying prices) that it costs more than the F-22, which you weren't trying for, I assume. Heh.
The Phoenix Milita
23-05-2006, 02:50
OOC: I think (unconfirmed, I've heard many varying prices) that it costs more than the F-22, which you weren't trying for, I assume. Heh.
It costs roughly the same as the F/A-22 does in real life.... people who sell it for less on NS can only do so because they have made/sold so many that the process has become streamlined.
Animarnia
23-05-2006, 03:04
Animarnia would like to buy 10 for testing purposes; the total sum has been wired to your account and awaits comfirmation; if these prove well then we will surely order more to replace our Sukoi fighters
Spiritu Sante
23-05-2006, 03:04
OOC: Cut costs due to the excess of plants for production built by slaves. The plants after construction are then manned by Military personelle = Cheap Production Prices, though the F/A-22 price is nearly impossible to nail as it jumps around more than a fat kids blubber in a moon-bounce thanks to Politics. Though it does cost a lot as I am trying to keep it within the MT-PMT atmosphere.
Spiritu Sante
23-05-2006, 03:29
Animarnia would like to buy 10 for testing purposes; the total sum has been wired to your account and awaits comfirmation; if these prove well then we will surely order more to replace our Sukoi fightersAs all ten fighters were readied all with extra fuel tanks and Pilot/Instructors for each country to show the new pilots of these beautiful birds how to fly them. And so they all taxied onto the enourmous AFB being Robbins AFB. All of them reading thier liftocc code and as they were confirmed the enourmos roar of the Turboram engines could have easily melted the asphalt underthem at full-power while they sliced through the air, lifting off and into the air towards thier destined target. Luckily for them, orders more than 10 planes are shipped off through cargo Barge tarking nearly 3x longer.
Aralonia
23-05-2006, 05:34
The Republic of Aralonia's Aerial Defense Force wishes to know if this is the completed export version of the XF-24E.

OOC: Is the 35mm HV coilgun the same one that Aralonia produces? If so, you'll need production rights.
Tombo-Bill
23-05-2006, 10:16
To: Spiritu Sante

We would like to purchase 50 of these fine fighter/bombers. The cheque we send you will of course be quite adequate.

Long live the Tombo-Billian Airforce!
Long live the Tombo-Billian Army!
Long live the Tombo-Billian Navy!

Heil!
Office of Defence.
Linuxtobia
23-05-2006, 12:43
Dear Sir,
The Linuxtobian Air Force is interested in aquiring one of these frankly very interesting new aircraft for testing purposes. We can supply a highly skilled pilot team but would appreciate any training you can provide. We will be happy to share any findings we have on the aircraft with you and give you any suggestions we have. Rest assured that we will not reverse engineer or copy your design in any way without your prior approval. The money will be wired pending your decision on this matter.

Yours Truly,
General Gordon Reimer,
Linuxtobian Minister for Defense
Spiritu Sante
24-05-2006, 00:55
OOC: Aralonia, of course. Though didn't you get that PM I sent you about buying Production Rights? I don't know my internet was freaking out a few days ago or maybe it was the forums though yeah. If you didn't get it I was asking the cost of production rights and what ever it is I will gladly pay it. [/OOC]

In public response to Aralonia"It is. With only very few changes to the design and structrure from the XF-24. The XF being eXperimental Fighter." After the radio broadcast was finished over SSNN or Spiritu Sante News Network


50 F-25's were readied. Thier wings folded inwards and canards swung into the backwards position as they were all loaded onto a cargo barge which left the SS nation the same day. It would be there by either tommorrow or the next day as the shipping company contracted was urged to get the planes there by the same day.

Meanwhile a single plane outfitted with multiple extra fuel-pods was readied for flight was it strolled off the runway and soared into the sky towards Linuxtobia for testing perposes.
Aralonia
25-05-2006, 00:24
OOC: Oh, okay then. I don't have enough user privileges to access PMs yet. Kinda weird, heh. Also, production rights would be - er. Let's see - I'll say 2500 Universal Standard Dollars per weapon produced? In my storefront - need to link to that eventually, heh - it's 10,000 per unit.

IC:

Aralonia wishes to purchase a total of 70 of these aircraft, with a total of 6,860,000,000 Universal Standard to be put towards the purchase of these aircraft. However - our current defence budget has nowhere near that amount of money in it. Would a payment plan of 686,000,000 per year for the next 10 years be acceptable?
Whyatica
25-05-2006, 00:32
OOC: How can your plane go Mach 8 using scramjets WITHOUT being a flying fuel tank?
Czardas
25-05-2006, 00:42
There's a simple reason no-one wants to purchase this. It's impossible.

[ Maximum Payload: 19,949 lbs
Normal Combat Weight: Untested
Combat Range: 920 miles
Ferry Range: 15,33 miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 50,200 ft
Maximum Altitude: 61,200 ft
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Super Cruising Speed: Mach 8
Maximum Speed Without the Ramjet: Mach 2.2
Maximum Speed With the use of the Ramjet: Mach 5+
This is where you start to run into problems.

Generally, for an F/A-22 sized fighter -- and this is slightly smaller -- a maximum cruising velocity would be around Mach 1.6 or so; your values are fine. Supercruise, however, uses the afterburners only minimally, making Mach 8 a ridiculous value. An aircraft flying at Mach 8 would have to have a fuel fraction of about 90%, no external pylons whatsoever (they would be ripped away), and would eat all of its fuel within a few minutes. In other words, keep ramjets for missiles and use a SABRE or turbofan-ramjet hybrid. You can carry less fuel, which means more missiles and bombs; not to mention the incredible strain placed upon the airframe by flying at speeds like Mach 8.

Ramjets on airplanes = bad idea.

Ramjet hybrids on airplanes = better idea.
Spiritu Sante
25-05-2006, 16:23
OOC: Czardas, will you delete your feckin post already? I proved my point, to a very large extent. Shooting your entire arguement to shit because you didn't even read the description of my plane and told you to delete it or else I'd sick the mods on you. I'm giving you one more day.
Aralonia
25-05-2006, 16:32
OOC: Purchase approval/disapproval? Y/N?
Spiritu Sante
25-05-2006, 16:37
OOC: Oh, sorry it took me so long to respond. Yes, of course. I had to go 5 days without internet and nearly chopped my nards off due to the possible thought of inactivity. Also, how many do you want so I ship them out before this period is over. I'm in school right now.
Aralonia
25-05-2006, 16:50
OOC: 50 right now, and the remaining 20 after the installment payment is over. Also, haha! I'm in school now as well.