NationStates Jolt Archive


Neoma builds massive Anti-Matter production sites (FT)

Neoma
30-04-2006, 16:30
The Grand ruler has decided that Neoma, and the colony planets under its authority will build a Anti-Matter production site that will be capable of producing 2 tons of Anti-Matter a year.

Anti-Matter is a form of matter that is identical to physical matter except that its atoms are composed of anti electrons, anti protons, and anti neutrons. When Anti-Matter meets Matter it blinks them out of existence producing a massive explosion that is capable of destroying planets, or making the planet uninhabitable for millinea to come.

Neomans sees Anti-Matter as a weapon that should be used against anyone who would stand against Them.

The sites for this facility will be Dollous, a desert planet withing the Neoman territory. It will be completed shortly and will producing Anti-matter next year (NS years)
Pythogria
30-04-2006, 16:31
OOC: I'm not FT, but antimatter is not near that powerful. For that you would need tons. And I mean lots of tons, to take out planets.
The Aeson
30-04-2006, 16:34
OOC: I still don't get how Antimatter makes an explosion. Sure, it produces energy, but wouldn't it also produce an equal amount of what we'll call anti-energy?
Pythogria
30-04-2006, 16:35
OOC: I still don't get how Antimatter makes an explosion. Sure, it produces energy, but wouldn't it also produce an equal amount of what we'll call anti-energy?

OOC: Nope. Explosion. Boom. Kaboom. Ouch.
Sskiss
30-04-2006, 16:36
Not to mention that placing an anti-matter production facility on a habitable planet.....well.....do you see what I'm trying to tell you....
Neoma
30-04-2006, 16:38
OOC: I'm not FT, but antimatter is not near that powerful. For that you would need tons. And I mean lots of tons, to take out planets.

ooc: Yes, but I'm saying it could be used for that instead of using Nuclear bombs, 2 tons of antimatter contains 78080 megatons of destructive force, This is a massive explosion that will crush most planets it not destroying them, But an Anti-Matter bomb is a destructive weapon.
Yallak
30-04-2006, 16:38
Actually it is really. 2 tons (or 2000 kg) of anti matter, if used all at once, would give a yield of 42,857,143 Kilotons - that would make a significant dent in a world i would imagine.
Neoma
30-04-2006, 16:39
Not to mention that placing an anti-matter production facility on a habitable planet.....well.....do you see what I'm trying to tell you....

Dollous is a desert planet with no civilian occupants it is strictly ordnance testing and production.
The Aeson
30-04-2006, 16:40
OOC: Nope. Explosion. Boom. Kaboom. Ouch.

OOC: But... What about the law of conservation of energy? If the mass of the antimatter is equal to the mass of the matter it's cancelling out, then that energy is coming from where?
FutureEngland
30-04-2006, 16:40
OOC: I still don't get how Antimatter makes an explosion. Sure, it produces energy, but wouldn't it also produce an equal amount of what we'll call anti-energy?

OOC: in the real world anti-matter and matter although they would cancel each other out wouldn't create an explosion but in the NS and fiction world it does
Cancels each other out
Matter + Anti-Matter -----------------------> Gigantic explosion
Yallak
30-04-2006, 16:40
2 tons of antimatter contains 78080 megatons of destructive force.

nope - only about 43 000 Mt
Neoma
30-04-2006, 16:42
nope - only about 43 000 Mt

ooc: Not by the calculator i used, http://www.edwardmuller.com/right17.htm Which one do you use?
Sskiss
30-04-2006, 16:44
Dollous is a desert planet with no civilian occupants it is strictly ordnance testing and production.

Okay, but is there civilian populations on planets or moons nearby? If so, it can still be of some danger. We produce the stuff as well, but within hollowed asteroids placed far out (away from population centers) generally at the outer reaches of a system.
GruntsandElites
30-04-2006, 16:45
To The Aeson: Anti-Matter explodes on contact with matter. And, no it wouldn't.
To Pythgoria: I believe that about an once of anti-matter makes the explosion of about three or four atomic bombs. So yes you would.
To Neoma: Anti-Matter is probably the wost kind of weapon you can have. Since it explodes on contact with matter, your facility would be destroyed in a matter of days. And even if you did manage to make some that wouldn't explode, it still takes the energy of a few atomic bombs to make a gram of anti-matter, which is all you could make safely.
Yallak
30-04-2006, 16:46
Never mind - my mistake - i forgot to multiply it by two.
The Aeson
30-04-2006, 16:46
OOC: Look, when matter and antimatter come into contact, they both cease to exists, yes? So where does the energy for the explosion come from?
Pythogria
30-04-2006, 16:47
OOC: OK, I'll stay out of this.
Neoma
30-04-2006, 16:50
To Neoma: Anti-Matter is probably the wost kind of weapon you can have. Since it explodes on contact with matter, your facility would be destroyed in a matter of days. And even if you did manage to make some that wouldn't explode, it still takes the energy of a few atomic bombs to make a gram of anti-matter, which is all you could make safely.

We are going to use energy conductors all around the sphere that will produce the Anti-matter, In turn it will hold the Anti-Matter in the center until enough is produced to put into a form of stasis containers.
Yallak
30-04-2006, 16:51
OOC: Look, when matter and antimatter come into contact, they both cease to exists, yes? So where does the energy for the explosion come from?

From the conversion of the anti-matter and matter into pure energy = the explosion.
The Aeson
30-04-2006, 16:52
From the conversion of the anti-matter and matter into pure energy = the explosion.

OOC: So instead of ceasing to exist, it transforms into energy? Aha.
Yallak
30-04-2006, 16:54
Yeah pretty much. Its all to do with Einstein's work.
Neoma
30-04-2006, 16:55
From the conversion of the anti-matter and matter into pure energy = the explosion.

Its uses the same principle of Nuclear explosions, In a Nuclear explosion the Particles for the atom break into another atom, destroying it, then another then another ect. ect.

With Anti-Matter its basically the same concept but an Anti-Atom strikes and Atom it destroys it, but no particles are released because there is only pure energy
Sskiss
30-04-2006, 16:57
We are going to use energy conductors all around the sphere that will produce the Anti-matter, In turn it will hold the Anti-Matter in the center until enough is produced to put into a form of stasis containers.

You can always store the stuff within "magnetic bottles".
Yallak
30-04-2006, 17:00
You can always store the stuff within "magnetic bottles".

You can only contain minute amounts of the stuff with magnetic fields - there just to much repulsive forces between the anti-particles.
Mini Miehm
30-04-2006, 17:08
You can only contain minute amounts of the stuff with magnetic fields - there just to much repulsive forces between the anti-particles.

Which is why you use Anti-elements. Antimatter means you could(theoretically) have an anti-HUMAN. All the elements are there, just with reversed charges on the subatomic particles. Anti-Hydrogen, Anti-Carbon, Anti-Iron, and Anti-Oxygen are my personal favorites, sine they're so common. Hydrogen especially.
Spizania
30-04-2006, 17:12
I imagine you can use Antimatter to kill black holes, dump enough onto the event horizon and i think you could get the escape velocity to drop below c and allow huge amounts of energy to escape
GruntsandElites
05-05-2006, 03:56
We are going to use energy conductors all around the sphere that will produce the Anti-matter, In turn it will hold the Anti-Matter in the center until enough is produced to put into a form of stasis containers.

These "energy conductors" are in a vacuum right? Because if they aren't, the anti-matter will explode. Air counts as matter. Also, it's pretty stupid to tell people where you are making the anti-matter.