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Cravan in need of a new rifle!

Cravan
21-04-2006, 05:31
After a recent review of the Cravanian infantry, it has been decided that a new standard issue rifle is required to replace the aging modified G36 rifles which are used (designated C56). The following are the requirements:

-State of the art
-Conventional and proven design which is durable
-Ability to mount a 40mm UGL
-Caliber between standard 5.56 and 7.62
-30 round magazine
-Accurate range between 600m-800m
-Ability to mount most attatchments with a standard rail
-Minimum of two fire modes (single, full auto/burst), preferably three
-Ability to mount a bayonet
-Ability to be integrated into a land warrior-type system
-Ability to mount a suppressor/silencer
-Production rights granted to Cravan

Keep in mind that Cravanian doctrine states accuracy is a must. Cravanian military doctrine usually involves stealth and remaining low, and a light and compact rifle is preferred. Varients for each service, such as a carbine for SpecOps and a regular rifle for standard infantry is also preferred, and this will be kept in mind while choosing the appropriate design. All designs submitted will be reviewed, and we will announce our choice to the winner when it is decided which design suits our needs the best. If no design fully suits our needs, we will begin issuing the M8.

[OOC Note: I'm probably not going to be around tomorrow, so I won't be able to approve designs until later]
Cravan
21-04-2006, 05:58
Time for some early bumpage.
Veragon
21-04-2006, 06:29
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/c7a2-3.jpg

Battlefield Systems offers a new variant of Veragon's V7A2 rifle, this new version, designated C60, is a modified version of the above rifle (an earlier V7A2 prototype) suited to meet your specific needs. The new weapon features a heavier, extended barrel to meet the range requirements (assuming thats 600m individual, not section-level) as well as a full picatinny rail system, improved optics optimal set from 200-1000m at 100m increments and adjustable for windage. Flip up backup iron sights are mounted, ideal for CQB or primary sight failure. The weapon has a 6 position telescopic stock, coloured furniture, battery storage in the pistol grip, fully ambidextrous with fire control (safe, semi, auto) on both sides. Standard is 30 round mag, optional 100 round beta mags. Each weapon includes a single mag pouch mounted on the butt, and for greater accuracy and ease of operation each weapon mounts a grippod, a standard foregrip that also fields and enclosed bipod that deploys in 1/10th of a second via a button on the grip, and can be easily collapsed back in. A bayonet comes standard, and additional options for holographic CQB sights and shortened barrels much better suited for light and mechanized infantry operations is available. The weapon can mount virtually all aftermarket accessories (lasers, lights, reflex sights, grenade launchers (M203, EAGLE) etc.

Stats
Range: 600m individual
Ammo Capacity: Any AR-15 series mag (30 rd standard)
Sights: Flip-up iron sights, VP-4X 6.0x Scope
Special Features:
- Ambidextrous
- Picatinny rails
- Weaver top rail for sight mounting
- Included Bayonet, butt mag pouch, cleaning kit, grippod
- Easily maintained and operated
- 6 Position Telescopic stock
- 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition
Cost: Standard version $1800 USD
Shortened 16 inch Light Infantry Rifle $1200 (replaces scope with 3.4x optical)
Add Holographic CQB (Close-Quarter-Battle) sight - +$400
Strathdonia
21-04-2006, 16:50
See below, this post got messed up, my humble appologies.
Otagia
21-04-2006, 17:12
Pale Rider Arms will happily supply you with our latest assault rifle, the M25 HVAR.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/PRA%20junk/M25BullpupRifle.jpg

Length: 560mm
Barrel Length: 491mm
UGL Barrel Length: 214mm
Cartridge: 6mm x 50mm high velocity caseless, 30mm grenade
Muzzle Velocity: 5000 fps
Ammuntion: 60 6mm, 6 30mm grenades
Modes of Fire: Safe, Semi Auto, 3 round burst, full auto, grenade
Rate of Fire: 550 RPM
Mass (Empty): 4.1 kg
Mass (Fully Loaded): 6.42 kg
Features: Recessed top mounting rail, integral smartgun system
Cost: 2700 USD (includes set of smartgun goggles w/ nightvision system)

The successor to the popular M22 series HVAR, the M25 was designed as a lighter version of the M22, while maintaining its accuracy and firepower. In order to meet these goals, a bull-pup configuration was adopted, shrinking the over all size of the weapon. Other features were improved, notably the addition of a full integral smartgun system, as well as a large magazine.

Production rights are available for a mere 250,000,000 USD, and includes rights to manufacture the M25 high velocity assault rifle as well as the Smartgun goggles.
Nerotika
21-04-2006, 17:17
Phoenix Dynamix has several designs to offer.

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CAR-24 Combat Assault Rifle\Carbine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/DMRCAR.jpg
Name: CAR-24\CAR-24A1 Carbine
Designed by: Phoenix Milita DARPA
Ammo Types:6.62mm or 6.66mm caseless
Action: [GORB]Select fire (auto/burst/semi-auto)
Total Weight: 9lbs(reg) 7.8lbs(carbine)
Range: 900 meters(reg) 720 meters (carbine)
Rate Of Fire: 800 rounds per minute
Capacity 30 round clip or 60 shot drum
The CAR-24 is an all new carbine/assault rifle built to use the old 6.62mm ammuniton which was designed for the the FC-57 or the all new cased and caseless 6.66mm rounds. The hollow
point, full metal jacket or teflon coated armor piercing rounds are more powerful and accurate than a NATO 5.56mm or russian 5.45mm round but smaller than the NATO 7.62mm and the TPM 11mm. This means each soldier can carry more ammuniton at less wieght. The carbine version is shorter and can use a folding or collapsable butt stock, and a new
M203X 40mm grenade launcher is an option for both versions. Of course a sling, a removable muzzle suppressor (scilencer), 0-4x scope, laser dot, and
TAC light, anumber of sights can be added
and scopes, as well as a bipod and a foward grip.
A 7.4 inch extra-long M-9 bayonet is free w/ purchase.
Price
$1662(either version)

I know your looking toward selling to Craven, but This I would love to purchase for myself. I wish to purchase production Rights, If thats fine also I would like to purchase five premade ones. Quick response would be appreciated.
The Phoenix Milita
21-04-2006, 17:18
I know your looking toward selling to Craven, but This I would love to purchase for myself. I wish to purchase production Rights, If thats fine also I would like to purchase five premade ones. Quick response would be appreciated.
Please go to the storefront, here http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=334378 to order rifles or production rights, all the info and pricing is there.
Aequatio
21-04-2006, 18:47
M2 Infantry Carbine

Destined as a replacement for all G4 and G6 infantry weapons in service with the Aequatian Armed Forces, the M2 Carbine incorporates new designs developed specifically for the weapon. It uses the newly-developed 6.35x45mm round created by the Aequatian Republic Army Munitions Design Board to provide the weapon with a higher impact strength and only a nominal decrease in penetration while maintaining a similar recoil of the lighter 5.56x45mm NATO round, than the previous standard 4.7x54mm round which placed emphasis on penetration.

Fully modular, it can be mounted with various light support weapons like the M203 and AG36 40mm grenade launchers, along with many systems that can be rail mounted such as laser sight and aimpoint systems. The standard sighting system used by the Aequatian Armed Forces is the AMI M40 1.5-3x Power Sight, although it can be equipped with a traditional "iron sight" to be used in conjunction with the forward "V" sight or any other systems that can be used on rails. Although the forestock of the weapon is constructed by a strengthened composite plastic, the barrel is designed to survive great stress, such as continued use in hand-to-hand combat with and without a bayonet.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6413/m2carbineexploded9ua.png

Price: 325 Aequatian Markes
Purpose: Infantry Weapon
Calibre: 6.35x45mm ARAM (Aequatian Republic Army Munitions)
Firing Modes: Full Auto/3-Round Burst/Semi-Auto
Manufacturer: Arrio Heavy Manufacture Corp.
Length: 87.5cm
Weight: 3.5kg
Effective Range:
Maximum shooting distance: 2,800m
Point Target: 1,050m
Area Target: 1,400m
Rate of Fire: 750 Rounds Per Minute (Cyclic)
Muzzle Velocity: 920 m/s
Magazine Capacity: 35 Rounds
Rifling: 7 grooves, spin right
Cravan
21-04-2006, 20:44
Currently in the lead are the AR-56 and Veragon's C60. All designs submitted so far appear very effective and overall good designs, but these two fufill our needs the most so far. Most other guns have been rejected due to the caliber they use (I will accept anything between 5.56 and 7.62, but 5.56 is being given preference since the old rifle I used was 5.56. This means I already have a large stockpile of 5.56 ammunition.)

To Veragon:
What materials are used in your weapon? Would it be possible to fully customise your rifle with different composite polymers we are in possession of? We would like to modify the materials used so as to increase survivability of the rifle and possibly reduce weight. Also, I may be mistaken, but I believe you did not list the weight of the weapon. What is the weight of this weapon?
Strathdonia
21-04-2006, 20:45
Crookfur Arms are Proud to offer you a opportunity to purchase the latest version of one of the world's most mythical firearms (because no one has actually heard of it in about 6months)
Crookfur Arms Proudly Presents:
THE S1A5 Evolved Assault rifle
http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/images/CFARS1A5.jpg
Round: 6.25x43mm
Weight: 3.4kg (empty magazine)
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Length: 790mm
Barrel length: 570mm
Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
Max effective range: 600m (with sight).
Add-ons: Equipped as standard with 4x SUSAT optical sight and back up iron sights, these can be replaced with just about any other sighting system using the Rail Interface System (RIS).

Ammo Information:
Standard Ammo:
Bullet weight:6.48g (100grains)
Muzzle velocity:817m/s (2680fps)
Muzzle energy:2161J
Ultimate
Bullet weight:6.6g (102grains)
Muzzle velocity:840m/s (2760fps)
Muzzle energy:2329J

The S1A5 is the very latest version of the Crookfur S1 assault rifle, one of the first major weapons system to use an intermediate cartridge. Using the almost ballistically optimum 6.25x43mm round, which offers performance vastly superior to 5.56mm NATO and at certain ranges in excess of that offered by 7.62x51mm NATO yet balanced by recoil barely more than that generated by 5.56mm NATO, the S1A5 offers exceptional accuracy whilst being a very comfortable rifle to use.
The new A5 model offers a number of improvements: the introduction of a fully modular RIS with 4 rail positions, the first available RIS with integrated power supply (basically the rifle has a big battery in the pistol grip that is connected to a number of "outlet" points on the RIS, these outlets are completely isolated when not in use so no chance of random shocks off the rifle, at the moment the number of compatible add-ons is limited to a single digital sighting system i am working on, but if you buy production rights I'm sure we can come up with a few ideas) and offers full compatibility with the new composite cased 6.25mm ULTIMATE ammo (it can still use conventional brass cased ammo), 6.25mm ULTIMATE offers even better performance than the standard 6.25mm ammo and is 35% lighter per round.

Costs:
Individual rifle:$850
Rifle with SUSAT sight: $1100
Unlimited production rights(rifle only):$85million
Unlimited production rights (rifle and ammo): $150million
Royalty fee based production rights (up to 3000units per year): Upfront $8million plus $60 per rifle produced (ammo rights included).
Royalty fee based production rights (over 3000units per year): Upfront $10million plus $40 per rifle produced (ammo rights included).


The S1A5 also has a light machine gun version the S2A5 if you are interested.
The Macabees
21-04-2006, 20:48
Kriegzimmer, like always, jumped at the offer of being able to show off the Hali-42, which had insofar won more than one rifle competition in other countries, as was used worldwide by over eleven different nations. And so, the brochure was memoed to Cravan's procurement agency immediately:


Hali-42 Assault Rifle
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[This wonderful drawing was done by Mekugi.]


Abstract:
The Hali-42 is the next generation assault rifle designed for use in the Macabee army, destined to replace the long worn Hali-21, which has been the mainstay of Macabee forces for over a decade. The new rifle is the product of better understanding of rifle mechanics, as well as the developement of newer technologies that guarantee the superiority of the Hali-42 over older designs, although the project takes a wild turn away from previous design dogmatics, including a once determined stance on keeping the conventional rifle configuration, and the uses of caseless and cased ammunition. There has also been a very steep change in manufacturing technologies and rifle theoretics that have called for a change in the conentional 5.56mm NATO round to something radically different and lighter, although no less lethal, with even less recoil. The Hali-42 is within all meanings of the name, the epitome of Macabee rifle design, never known for its small arms ordnance.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammuntion, as opposed to cased ammunition, and Kriegzimmer has underscored this by converting manufacturing to mostly caseless ammunition, although it keeps the manufacturing of cased ammunition to be able to remain selling the Hali-21 and Hali-37 in the foreign market. There has also been a very new change in the propellant, and in general length ratios of the barrel to the rest of the rifle. The designated marksman rifle as includes very powerful scope technology.

Furthermore, unlike its predecessor, the Hali-21, the Hali-42 is an assault rifle in all aspects of the name. The Hali-21 was more accurately a battle rifle, using a 7.62mm round, which is one of many reasons why the change from Hali-21 to Hali-42 ultimately occured. The Hali-42 project also made the decision of ignoring international conventionals, and opted to use more lethal, but less 'civlized' round technology, including the use of the barbette. In the end, every little changed detail makes the Hali-42 amongst the more potentially lethal assault rifles in use around the world.

The Ejermacht has announced its decision to replace all existing Hali-21 rifles with the newer Hali-42, and it's expected that the international world will respond as well - mostly those that used the Hali-21 as their standard assault rifle design. This includes at least one million rifles for frontline use in the Ejermacht alone, not including stocks for reserves and replacement. The Hali-42 has the potential of being a very widely used assault rifle.

Operation and Recoil:
This particular assault rifle operates on delayed blowback, seen in action on the Heckler & Koch G3. This is to allow the rifle all the advantages of a blowback operation without limiting range or eventual muzzle velocity. Interestingly, the first prototype of the Hali-42 actually used an inertia operation on the rifle, but theoritically, the delayed blowback can be translated into a delayed inertia, offering all the recoil operations of an inertia weapon and giving it the power an effective assault rifle needs. A lot of inspiration to incorporate the delayed blowback, roller lock operation came from the Spanish CETME modelo 58 [now replaced], which's initial design was based off the model 45 Assault Rifle.

Further recoil is handled by the exceptionally small round in use [see below], a two round burst as opposed to a three round burst, and a muzzle break. Unfortunately, all these designs are counteracted by the fact that the rifle uses a magnum configuration, powering a 73 grain round with a large binary liquid propellant.

Frequent Rounds Operated:
.221 Aluminum Orchomenos
The new .221 bullet design is designed to keep the underestimated possiblities of the .221 Fireball, but to make it even lighter, allowing for an even greater achieved muzzle velocity. Total weight of the round is 73 grains. The rifle round has excellent aerodynamic properties at long ranges, mirroring that of the Fireball, which has already been suggested by many to replace standard NATO rifle rounds for the M-16 . In fact, throughout its history, the .221 Fireball has been underestimated by most. Fortunately, its cause has been understood by Kriegzimmer, and so an improved version was destined for use on the Hali-42. At the tip the round uses a series of barbettes, first used in the American Civil War, and it's designed to cause major damage within the impact zone, making the round harder to extract, and more damaging to the human body. Beyond that, the round also uses a delayed electrical spark fuze, allowing the round to puncture, then blow, causing the explosion to theoritically occur inside the victim's body, not on impact. Maximum muzzle velocity with the .221 Orchomenos has been caught at 1,070 meters per second.
[b].223 API Orchomenos
The .223 API Orchomenos is an armor piercing projectile designed to penetrate battle suits at high velocities. The round replaces the .221 Orchomenos when an enemy is known to use battle suits, but normally, the rifle uses the .221 version. This round also uses an internal barbette to maximize potential damage, with a delayed fuze.
.221 Binary Sarin Orchomenos Biological Round
In compliance with foreign needs, a variant of the .221 Orchomenos was designed to carry Sarin to make it even deadlier. Although not standard in Macabee forces, it is a round manufactured by Kriegzimmer. In order to increase shelf life the Sarin is composed and stocked in a binary method, making shelf life rather irrelevent. The round spins on terminal flight to produce the effects of Sarin. On impact the round will cause bleeding at several points on the subject, and permanent damange to the central nervous system, possibly killing them, but more likely to put them out of action indefinately. The Ejermacht has ruled out the use of Sarin rounds, but it is a popular export. Muzzle velocity, since the round is a tad heavier, is around 990 m/s.
Additional Information:
The Hali-42's barrel is fully modular, allowing it to be exchanged quite easily by camp forges in order to use other rounds. It can also be sold with a specialized muzzle to cope with the purchasing nation's round of choice, allowing the Hali-42 to be highly versatile and not dependent on the round in use by the Ejermacht. In other words, the barrel is interchangeable, although not on the field. The rest of the rifle is modular as well, making cheap replacement parts for the rifle easy, and making for a very simple cleaning operation.

Calibre: .221 Orchomenos [capable of using the .223, .224, .225 and .220]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length: 113cm
Barrel Length: 64cm
Bayonet Length: 33cm
Weight [Empty]: 4.4kg
Propellant: Preforated Chemical Binary Liquid Propellant
Magazine Capacity: 45 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 1,070 m/s
Rate of Fire: 750 rounds per minute
Semi-Automatic: Two round burst
Maximum Effective Range: 640 meters
Procurement Cost: 3,200 USD
Cravan
21-04-2006, 21:06
Although cost is not an issue for us, we are looking at more conventional designs (OOC: Just because I prefer more conventional stuff. If you ask me, that rifle is friggin' sweet. But it's too futuristic for me.). The Hali-24 has been seriously considered, though, and we will consider it one of the front runners of the designs submitted thus far.
United Earth Govenment
21-04-2006, 21:21
M-41AB Pulse Rifle

Type : M-41A Pulse Rifle 7.56mm with 40mm pump action grenade launcher and Digital Counter

Ammunition: 7.56mm explosive tip classless standard light Armour piercing round .M-40 Grenades

Capacity: 99 rounds

The M41A Pulse Rifle is the standard issue for all United Earth Military Marines. It fires a 7.56mm Explosive Tipped Case less Light Armour Piercing round. The M41 uses electronic pulse action to fire, controlled directly from the trigger. The internal mechanism, including the rotating breech, is mounted on free-floating rails within a carbon-fiber jacket. This assembly is recoil dampened to reduce the effects of muzzle climb during burst and full automatic fire. From the thumb selector, the weapon can be set to selective, four-round burst, or full automatic fire, the latter allowing a rate of fire up to the weapon's cyclic rate of 900 rpm.


Specifications

Full Weight 4.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 840m/s
Maximum Range 2.100m
Effective Range 500m
Rate Of Fire 900rpm
Full Clip 99
The Macabees
21-04-2006, 21:24
Here's a similar rifle...and I didn't notice how much they looked alike until now. It's the FN F2000.

http://www.webarms.com/Gun%20Suppliers/FN/FNFS2000_1.jpg
Cravan
21-04-2006, 21:26
Here's a similar rifle...and I didn't notice how much they looked alike until now. It's the FN F2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FNH_CB_FS2000_Right.jpg

OOC: I have seen that rifle, and it looks like a Splinter Cell type weapon to me. I was considering it for Black Ops. That or the P90, since I am a fan of Fabrique Nationale.
United Earth Govenment
21-04-2006, 21:32
or this weapon

UEMAF Has developed a new gun

Call M7/Caseless Sub Machine gun SMG

It fires 5.55mm form a 60-round magazine

Specifications




Full Weight 1.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 140m/s
Maximum Range 100m
Effective Range 90m
Rate Of Fire 100rpm
Full Clip 60
Cravan
21-04-2006, 21:34
Sorry, but the required range is 600m-800m. Cravan's infantry use accuracy. Not spray-and-pray. Besides, I'm looking for an assault rifle for standard issue. Not a sub-machine gun.
United Earth Govenment
21-04-2006, 21:42
BRFF Rifle
how this BRFF Rifle

This battle rifle fires a 7.56mm rounds form a 36 round magazine. A 2x scope is mounted for targeting. Fires in short automatic of three rounds. Very accurate ,relatively high rate of fire makes it a useful all-around infantry weapon


Full Weight 4.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 840m/s
Maximum Range 2.100m
Effective Range 500m

Full Clip 36
Cravan
22-04-2006, 01:17
Bump
Cravan
22-04-2006, 01:59
Bump
Cravan
22-04-2006, 03:10
Bump

Current Frontrunners:
C60
AR56
Hali-42 (The more I think about it, the more I lean towards this one. However, I want Veragon to answer my question, first. Is it possible for other varients to be custom created, such as a marksman or other type? I do remember your storefont stated no production rights except to those on your Guest List. Is that still in effect with this offer?)
Cravan
22-04-2006, 03:36
Just so you know, the AR-56 comes in 3 basic variants.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/ar56ty2.jpg

The Designated Marksman Rifle with heavier, match grade barrel, The A1 (Standard) version and the slightly shorter Carbine version. An automatic rifle dsign exists but would only be produced on special request.

Ooooh... I like.
The Royal Code
22-04-2006, 03:40
For a cheaper price, you could look into the OICW, or M8.;)
Cravan
22-04-2006, 03:41
For a cheaper price, you could look into the OICW, or M8.;)

I realise this, and I did say that if none of them meet my needs I'm going with the M8. But, it's just more fun to buy designs. Besides, money ain't an issue for me.
The Phoenix Milita
22-04-2006, 03:54
For a cheaper price, you could look into the OICW, or M8.;)
OOC: ROFL!! the OICW is over $10,000 per rifle which is why it was canceld and im postive the XM-8 is over the $1200 cost of my ar56 ^^
The Macabees
22-04-2006, 04:40
(The more I think about it, the more I lean towards this one. However, I want Veragon to answer my question, first. Is it possible for other varients to be custom created, such as a marksman or other type? I do remember your storefont stated no production rights except to those on your Guest List. Is that still in effect with this offer?)

Well, the gun is designed to fire the round of your choice. The muzzle components are modular, so it can be changed during production to fire your type of round. Namely, I fire a .221 round, while a 5.56mm would be more like a .224 round, which you can fire with another variant. In the picture you note that the hand rail in the bottom of the rifle, below the muzzle, can be detached and it reveals a rail - you can use that rail to attach a grenade launcher. And of course, variants can be made that would fit something else you had in mind. In any case, if you want production rights I can sell you them for the Hali-42, since this isn't exactly through the storefront.
Cravan
22-04-2006, 04:43
Well, the gun is designed to fire the round of your choice. The muzzle components are modular, so it can be changed during production to fire your type of round. Namely, I fire a .221 round, while a 5.56mm would be more like a .224 round, which you can fire with another variant. In the picture you note that the hand rail in the bottom of the rifle, below the muzzle, can be detached and it reveals a rail - you can use that rail to attach a grenade launcher. And of course, variants can be made that would fit something else you had in mind. In any case, if you want production rights I can sell you them for the Hali-42, since this isn't exactly through the storefront.

After thinking about it more, I think the Hali-42 is my choice so far. As I said, I want to hear Veragon's answer, but I believe we may have a deal, my friend.
Veragon
22-04-2006, 05:26
The weapon is constructed from a mixture of advanced polymers and ceramics, with some metals used in barrel construction and the bolt assembly. More or less all the parts can be switched out for other AR-15 compatible parts made from any material. The weapon can be easily switched to other variants by barrel switching or simply switching out the upper receiver. Most common variants are sniper platforms and light machine guns, a light machine gun can be operated by simply mounting a beta mag or 200 round box magazine and switching to full automatic, with an optional barrel switch. The standard barrel emphasizes accuracy, so the machine gun will not produce an effective beaten zone as with standard, less accurate guns. LMG barrels are available however, and can be easily switched by any competent personnel. Sniper platforms operate much the same way, with heavier barrels sporting increased length and/or rifling (depends on whatever barrels your decide to issue) and switched out the optics for a superior sniping scope. Other added benefits of the modularity apply to training, as a simunition upper receiver can be easily mounted for simunition use or MILES laser gear can be mounted. The standard weapon weighs in at 2.73 kg.
Cravan
22-04-2006, 05:33
Hm... I may have to take some time to decide on this one.
Velkya
22-04-2006, 06:35
ARC-3 (Assault Rifle/Cannon No. 3)

Designed as a replacement to the aging AR-56 (a near clone of the United State’s OICW), the ARC-3 was developed by Aramalite Industries, a Velkyan infantry and ground defense contractor. Correcting the flaws in the AR-56 design, the ARC-3 introduced many new designs into the hands of the Velkyan infantryman, and gave him the capability to modify his weapon to his needs and requirements.

The weapon comes from the factory with a standard magnifying red dot scope and a 20mm cannon launcher (along with an uplink to the C&C system used by Velkyan soldiers, similar to the Land Warrior program of the Army), although the rifle can be modified into several configurations, including a marksman version complete with a longer barrel, a machine gun version with a 100 round magazine, and a urban combat model with a under-barrel shotgun. This type of flexibility allows light infantry to become snipers, gunners, and shock troops, all in mere minutes.

The rifle uses 5.56mm caseless ammunition, powered by new liquid propellant, which is superior to powder charges and requires fewer cleanups. In addition, the 5.56mm round tends to tumble in midair, delivering massive impact wounds that negate the round's relative lack of pure brute force. The weapon is also configured as a bullpup design, which extends the length of the barrel, improving accuracy and muzzle velocity. The cannon system (an airburst model) uses a laser fire control system to determine shell burst range, and eliminates the need for the soldier to judge the distance between him and his target, allowing for the soldier to produce effective suppressing fire for himself and his squad mates, as well as the ability to take down soft targets with ease and accuracy. Of course, the system can be removed and replaced with anything from flashlights to grenade launchers to laser designators.

The rifle is made from a combination of light composites and alloys, and is quite light for its size and capabilities. It utilizes a bull pup design, allowing for increased muzzle velocity, and is quite easy to disassemble and reassemble for cleaning. In addition, the weapon can be fitted with barrels caliber in 5.56mm and 7.62mm configurations, in addition to the 6mm round already used. Recoil is handled by a muzzle break and small compensators built into the butt of the weapon. The weapon is painted in non reflective paint to reduce glare, and is very reliable and exceptionally strong and is able to be used in close combat (and carry a bayonet).

The ARC-3 is expected to remain in service for several more years until phased out by the ARC-4, which has begun limited combat testing at Ft. Dog in eastern Velkya.

Specifications:

Type: Infantry Assualt Rifle
Name: Assault Rifle Cannon No. 3
Fire Modes: Semi-Automatic, 2 Round Burst, Full Auto, Semi-Automatic Cannon
Caliber: 5.56 (caseless)
Propellant: Liquid Binary Propellant
Barrel Length: 471mm
Overall Length: 954mm
Magazine Capacity: 30 rounds (rifle) 5 rounds (20mm ABC)
Rate Of Fire: 800 RPM on full auto service tests
Muzzle Velocity: 900 m/s
Maximum Effective Range: 730 meters
Mass without Magazine: Approx. 4 kg
Mass with Magazine: Approx. 3.7 kg
Estimated price per unit: $2,100
Production Rights: $200,000,000
Velkya
22-04-2006, 06:44
Full Weight 1.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 140m/s
Maximum Range 100m
Effective Range 90m
Rate Of Fire 100rpm
Full Clip 60

Thats a pretty pathetic SMG, considering it's extremely slow firing rate, and even slower muzzle velocity.

OOC: ROFL!! the OICW is over $10,000 per rifle which is why it was canceld and im postive the XM-8 is over the $1200 cost of my ar56 ^^

The OICW's explosive component is still a excellent support weapon, and my nation's military operates a simplified version without most of the expensive fire-control systems.
The Phoenix Milita
22-04-2006, 06:52
The OICW's explosive component is still a excellent support weapon, and my nation's military operates a simplified version without most of the expensive fire-control systems.
That's called the XM-25
Velkya
22-04-2006, 06:54
Point being?
The Phoenix Milita
22-04-2006, 06:57
it is a unique weapons system seperate from the xm-29 aka oicw
Velkya
22-04-2006, 06:59
No, it's simply an OICW system without the kinetic energy component.
Aequatio
22-04-2006, 07:02
OOC: Cravan, was there any specific criticism you had about my rifle? It seemed as though it fit you needs perfectly and was more than economical.
The Phoenix Milita
22-04-2006, 07:05
No, it's simply an OICW system without the kinetic energy component.
no its a seperate weapons system based on the oicw as is the xm-8 lets stop spamming this thread witha pointless argument which i have already won
Velkya
22-04-2006, 07:06
OOC: Cravan, was there any specific criticism you had about my rifle? It seemed as though it fit you needs perfectly and was more than economical.

I'm thinking that alot of these rifles meet or exceed his requirements, so now it's nitpicking through features like modularity, reliability, etc.
Velkya
22-04-2006, 07:08
no its a seperate weapons system based on the oicw as is the xm-8 lets stop spamming this thread witha pointless argument which i have already won

I'm not going to sit and argue with someone who puts tarmac on zeppelins, so fine, you win.
Cravan
22-04-2006, 16:33
OOC: Cravan, was there any specific criticism you had about my rifle? It seemed as though it fit you needs perfectly and was more than economical.

No, your rifle is a very good design. It's just, as I said, I have a preference to 5.56 guns, since I have a huge amount of the damned things sitting around from my G36s. But, I did consider this my choice if none of the guns capable of firing a 5.56 round succeeded. So I might as well add it to my list of those in the lead.

Leaders
Hali-42
ARC-3 (<- Leaning towards this)
(I have removed the other two, since these two meet my needs the most.)

And if I do want to adopt a new caliber:
M2

Also, now it's time for extreme nitpicking which doesn't affect the final sale. Velkya, do you have a picture for your rifle?
Cravan
22-04-2006, 22:09
Bump
The Phoenix Milita
22-04-2006, 22:26
ARC-3 (Assault Rifle/Cannon No. 3)

Designed as a replacement to the aging AR-56 (a near clone of the United State’s OICW),
rofl, the only simillarity is the caliber, and you can't design a replacement for an agin rifle which is only a month old rofl :headbang:
Aequatio
23-04-2006, 00:49
No, your rifle is a very good design. It's just, as I said, I have a preference to 5.56 guns, since I have a huge amount of the damned things sitting around from my G36s. But, I did consider this my choice if none of the guns capable of firing a 5.56 round succeeded. So I might as well add it to my list of those in the lead.

Leaders
Hali-42
ARC-3 (<- Leaning towards this)
(I have removed the other two, since these two meet my needs the most.)

And if I do want to adopt a new caliber:
M2

Also, now it's time for extreme nitpicking which doesn't affect the final sale. Velkya, do you have a picture for your rifle?

I could re-chamber the M2 to carry the 5.56x45mm NATO round, it would become the M2A1 Carbine within the Aequatian nomenclature, but it would also affect the performance of the weapon as it was designed to use the 6.35x45mm ARAM.
Cravan
23-04-2006, 00:55
I could re-chamber the M2 to carry the 5.56x45mm NATO round, it would become the M2A1 Carbine within the Aequatian nomenclature, but it would also affect the performance of the weapon as it was designed to use the 6.35x45mm ARAM.

After considering this, would it be possible to rechamber it with a 6.8mm round? I recently bought the rights to McKagan's 6.8mm Caseless Anti-Capitol Police Round, and it would be excellent if your weapon could be modified for this purpose.
Aequatio
23-04-2006, 01:27
After considering this, would it be possible to rechamber it with a 6.8mm round? I recently bought the rights to McKagan's 6.8mm Caseless Anti-Capitol Police Round, and it would be excellent if your weapon could be modified for this purpose.

A caseless round could certainly improved the weapon's rate of fire as it would no longer require an ejection stage in the firing mechanism. Plus a 6.8mm round wouldn't hurt the weapon's performance as it would be similar in size and power. The weapon will be classed as the M2C1 Carbine (Cravan Pattern).
Cravan
23-04-2006, 01:28
A caseless round could certainly improved the weapon's rate of fire as it would no longer require an ejection stage in the firing mechanism. Plus a 6.8mm round wouldn't hurt the weapon's performance as it would be similar in size and power. The weapon will be classed as the M2C1 Carbine (Cravan Pattern).

Then I believe we have a deal. How much?
United Earth Govenment
23-04-2006, 01:31
M-41AB Pulse Rifle (a upgrade )

Type : M-41A Pulse Rifle 7.56mm with 40mm pump action grenade launcher and Digital Counter

Ammunition: 10mm explosive tip classless standard light Armour piercing round .M-40 Grenades

Capacity: 99 rounds

The M41A Pulse Rifle is the standard issue for all United Earth Military Marines. It fires a 7.56mm Explosive Tipped Case less Light Armour Piercing round. The M41 uses electronic pulse action to fire, controlled directly from the trigger. The internal mechanism, including the rotating breech, is mounted on free-floating rails within a carbon-fiber jacket. This assembly is recoil dampened to reduce the effects of muzzle climb during burst and full automatic fire. From the thumb selector, the weapon can be set to selective, four-round burst, or full automatic fire, the latter allowing a rate of fire up to the weapon's cyclic rate of 900 rpm.


Specifications

Full Weight 4.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 840m/s
Maximum Range 2.100m
Effective Range 500m
Rate Of Fire 900rpm
Full Clip 99
Cravan
23-04-2006, 01:33
M-41AB Pulse Rifle (a upgrade )

Type : M-41A Pulse Rifle 7.56mm with 40mm pump action grenade launcher and Digital Counter

Ammunition: 10mm explosive tip classless standard light Armour piercing round .M-40 Grenades

Capacity: 99 rounds

The M41A Pulse Rifle is the standard issue for all United Earth Military Marines. It fires a 7.56mm Explosive Tipped Case less Light Armour Piercing round. The M41 uses electronic pulse action to fire, controlled directly from the trigger. The internal mechanism, including the rotating breech, is mounted on free-floating rails within a carbon-fiber jacket. This assembly is recoil dampened to reduce the effects of muzzle climb during burst and full automatic fire. From the thumb selector, the weapon can be set to selective, four-round burst, or full automatic fire, the latter allowing a rate of fire up to the weapon's cyclic rate of 900 rpm.


Specifications

Full Weight 4.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 840m/s
Maximum Range 2.100m
Effective Range 500m
Rate Of Fire 900rpm
Full Clip 99

I've already announced Aequatio the winner, and am just waiting for confirmation on the price of domestic production rights.
United Earth Govenment
23-04-2006, 01:36
dam it kind of over proudced this weapons need to sell some. ok ty
Aequatio
23-04-2006, 02:14
Then I believe we have a deal. How much?

For production rights to the M2C1 (Cravan Pattern) Infantry Carbine, would an offer of 250,000 USD be acceptable?
Cravan
23-04-2006, 02:15
For production rights to the M2C1 (Cravan Pattern) Infantry Carbine, would an offer of 250,000 USD be acceptable?

Perfectly acceptable. Thank you.