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Hataria Declares War on Fruity Loops (NO NUKES OR ANY OTHER WMD'S!)

Hataria
23-11-2004, 00:02
The Imperial Republic of Hataria has Declared War on the Nation of Fruity Loops.


OOC: No Nukes or any other WMD's or I WILL Ignore any who uses them on me or any allies I will have.
Wirraway
23-11-2004, 00:06
The Imperial Republic of Hataria has Declared War on the Nation of Fruity Loops.


OOC: No Nukes or any other WMD's or I WILL Ignore any who uses them on me or any allies I will have.

OOC: You have allies? This might not be worth it, but maybe he's changed for the better.

We condemmn this declaration and demand to know why it has been issued. Any attack on Fruity Loops will be met with the upmost force.
Grays Hill
23-11-2004, 00:09
We would like to inquire your reason for this declaration. Also, Fruity Loops, being an ally of mine, I will have to stand by him.
Euroslavia
23-11-2004, 00:11
We would like to inquire your reason for this declaration. Also, Fruity Loops, being an ally of mine, I will have to stand by him.


OOC: You're allied with a nation that commits genocide practically every day? That doesn't look well on a resume...
Drum Gods
23-11-2004, 00:13
We will defend our allies in the RWC.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Official Representative of the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 00:15
The president heard of the news, "Hmm... What to do what to do... Well, Time to open a can of good ole whoop ass.."

ooc-bad decicion you made ^.^
Swedish Dominions
23-11-2004, 00:21
We have good relations with FL, but the recent actions taken against FL's people is too much. Genocides and Torturing cannot go unpunished. We won't interfere personally in this conflict at this moment but we will keep a close eye on the development and will intervene if neccesary on Hatarias side.

OOC: Sorry Dio, but your stack of bodies are beginning to smell....
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 00:22
We have good relations with FL, but the recent actions taken against FL's people is too much. Genocides and Torturing cannot go unpunished. We won't interfere personally in this conflict at this moment but we will keep a close eye on the development and will intervene if neccesary on Hatarias side.

OOC: Sorry Dio, but your stack of bodies are beginning to smell....
ooc-no problem! ^.^ atleast your not getting involved..
Neoma
23-11-2004, 00:22
OCC I'm gonna open up a beer eat some pop corn and watch the royal beat down headed your way there Hataria

IC
the Grand ruler of Neoma condemns this actions and wishes to tell FL that they have our support both militaristic and diplomatically
Wirraway
23-11-2004, 00:24
After taking into account the countless acts of genocide perpetrated by the FL government we hereby withdraw our support for it and will remain neutral in this conflict for now.
Elvindis
23-11-2004, 00:31
Those who commit genocide must be brought to justice we THE MOST SERENE REPUBLIC OF ELVINDIS put our airforce and navy at the disposal of those against fruit loops due to our sense of outrage, and boredom, however we are a small country so I cannot justify sending ground troops at this time, and I must insist that no atrocities be commited against fruit loops, despite their evil they are human and must be treated acordingly.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-11-2004, 00:36
"Time to die Hataria!!!" -Ludo Hienkel, Chief Officer of Defense.

We cannot become involved due to pressing issues in Italy. But we support those against Hataria.
Swedish Dominions
23-11-2004, 00:37
OOC:
ALL MADE IN FRUITY LOOPS

Blacks Massacared (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7531674&posted=1#post7531674)

(Another)Massacare in Fruity Loops. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375203)

Slaughter in Fruity Loops (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375096)

Massacre in Fruity Loops (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374895)

THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING!!!!
DO YOU WANT TO CARRY THE SHAME, THE PAIN OF THE PEOPLE MURDERED? THINK AGAIN!

STOP FRUITY LOOPS!
2004

/Youth Tabloid in SD NATIONAL GEOGRAPHICS
Itinerate Tree Dweller
23-11-2004, 00:38
We support our ally in the RWC and condemn the aggressive behavior of the Hatarian government.
Elvindis
23-11-2004, 00:40
Tyranny and opression anywhere threaten freedom and democracy anywhere and we in Elvinids value our freedom so we will aid in the down fall of the murdering scum of frootloops.
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 00:41
OOC:
ALL MADE IN FRUITY LOOPS

Blacks Massacared (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7531674&posted=1#post7531674)

(Another)Massacare in Fruity Loops. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375203)

Slaughter in Fruity Loops (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375096)

Massacre in Fruity Loops (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374895)

THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING!!!!
DO YOU WANT TO CARRY THE SHAME, THE PAIN OF THE PEOPLE MURDERED? THINK AGAIN!

STOP FRUITY LOOPS!
2004

/Youth Tabloid in SD NATIONAL GEOGRAPHICS

And what about the USN? Hmm? Wasnt there genocide on your part there? No nation is perfect!
Golencia
23-11-2004, 00:41
Those who commit genocide must be brought to justice we THE MOST SERENE REPUBLIC OF ELVINDIS put our airforce and navy at the disposal of those against fruit loops due to our sense of outrage, and boredom, however we are a small country so I cannot justify sending ground troops at this time, and I must insist that no atrocities be commited against fruit loops, despite their evil they are human and must be treated acordingly.

If you aid those against FL then our nation will withdraw our forces from foriegn countries and invade your country, however we do not wish to get involved with the whole dillema which is why this threat was made specially for you
Swedish Dominions
23-11-2004, 00:42
OOC: That was a newspaper tabloid made by a student... That's their view, not the Government
Swedish Dominions
23-11-2004, 00:44
If you aid those against FL then our nation will withdraw our forces from foriegn countries and invade your country, however we do not wish to get involved with the whole dillema which is why this threat was made specially for you

If you even think about that, we'll invade your tiny little nation and eat your government for breakfast

That's our personal little threat made specially for you

/King Carl I Erik
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 00:45
The president stood at a podium, "Today, We are at war.. Once again, But what these people fail to realize is we deal with our traitors differentlly, They may put them in jail.. They may give them a slap on the wrist, We kill them. We dont allow refugees on our soil unless they are white... And wont tollerate non-white refugees on our soil, So we take care of them in our manner..." He then steped down, The crowd cheered and people chanted for there leader. The enimies of Fruity Loops just didnt understand its people, They way they thought, The way they acted. They just dont understand.

ooc-sorry for the bad grammer..today isnt my day, its a bad day
Grays Hill
23-11-2004, 00:48
If you even think about that, we'll invade your tiny little nation and eat your government for breakfast

That's our personal little threat made specially for you

/King Carl I Erik

Then I would be forced to eat yours for dinner. Ah, the food chain.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-11-2004, 01:00
Hataria has commited just as many horrible human-rights abusives: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359502

Hataria enjoys the beheading of civilians that he does not like. His acts are just hideous.
Grays Hill
23-11-2004, 01:04
Wow, looks like the pot is calling the kettle black now.
Nycton
23-11-2004, 01:06
Alarms went off at Joint Military Command, men rushed around to their stations. Grand Field Marshal stumbled from his office/living quarters, still buttoning his jacket and ran to a the 2nd floor balcony and overlooked the massive digital map of the world on the IMAX size screen. A small amount of nations were highlighted.
His secretary of the Marines approached and handed him a folder. He threw the folder on the desk and flipped through several photo's and paperwork and grabbed a Hotline telephone.

Imperator Valteen the I, awoke with one of his guards outside his bedroom poking him awkwardly. "I'm sorry great one, but the Grand Field Marshal has summoned you. The Imperator strode down the hall to his office. As he engaged, the guards on either side of his office opened the massive 20 foot polished oak doors and closed them behind him. He answered the phone. They talked for about 40 minutes time as a maid dressed him and he walked inront of a camera with the Nycton flag behind him, the next room over from his office for short notice broadcasts.

"People of great Nycton, I address you this very early morning to give a message that Hataria and a coalition has started a conflict with Fruity Loops. The Imperial Republic will not stand idle while tyranny is at our footsteps. At this time, a Police Action will be takin to free the Fruity Loop people. On my order, out of the 8.5 million men and woman serving in our military, 1.5 million reserves are being called up. The nation's military is on high alert. Two fleets, one headed by the Capital Super-Dreadnought Scipii, is on track to Fruity Loops as I speak. First Response Legions are loading up now in cargo/transport ships will be escored by a third major fleet to prepare for a ground invasion. May God be with the free peoples of Earth. Strength and Honor to the Imperial Republic. Thank You."

The camera flicked black. Only time can tell now.
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 01:14
the FLYC(which wont participate in battle unless extremely needed) began to form defenses, The airforce performed constant patrolls and the navy was its highest alert from the recent conflict with TFU, Bomb shelters were readied incase of any kind of raid. And the military were ready to start an offensive if need be.
Elvindis
23-11-2004, 01:21
An empire asking for god to be with the free people that means that God is against you and your evil nation. We may be small but we will resist any act of agression against us, our duty, and morals require us to stand against you. And we will not stand alone all of those who value true justice shall rise against fruitloops and his allies and they shall be purged from this world, and there people shall be liberated and taught what true freedom is, however we send a plea to fruit loops and his cronies, end the violence. Just renonce your unjust policies and we will stand with you. You must realize all people are equal all they need is the same opportunities.
Crazed Marines
23-11-2004, 01:27
We'll support FL with our MOAB2's. They'll leave a 3 mile wide conventional crater per bhot. Want some?
--President Mike Kowalski
Elvindis
23-11-2004, 01:30
Crazed marines we will pay you a handsome salary and offer you a vacation in our country if you turn those weapons against the evil opressors and tyranny.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-11-2004, 01:37
Crazed marines we will pay you a handsome salary and offer you a vacation in our country if you turn those weapons against the evil opressors and tyranny.

IC:

"You got to be kidding me?! He is not that stupid!" -Otto von Hienkel Rommel, Dictator.
Nycton
23-11-2004, 01:38
We'll support FL with our MOAB2's. They'll leave a 3 mile wide conventional crater per bhot. Want some?
--President Mike Kowalski

Nycton is a retaliation like nation. On the offensive, if a nation uses large weapons such as these, we strike back twice as hard. Go ahead and lend these to them, it will only hurt FL more than it hurts us.
DemonStanbul
23-11-2004, 01:40
Hey Fruity I would love to help but I'm kinda need time to build a stronger military. I'll join when I feel strong enough. Till then Good Luck
Crazed Marines
23-11-2004, 01:43
Nycton is a retaliation like nation. On the offensive, if a nation uses large weapons such as these, we strike back twice as hard. Go ahead and lend these to them, it will only hurt FL more than it hurts us.
Go ahead. Make my day. We'll just shoot you down with our orbital lasers and hit back even harder. If you tick us off enough, then we'll bring in the starships.
Nycton
23-11-2004, 01:43
Go ahead. Make my day. We'll just shoot you down with our orbital lasers and hit back even harder. If you tick us off enough, then we'll bring in the starships.

The godmod starts already...sigh...
Ratheia
23-11-2004, 02:14
TO: Fruity Loops
FROM: Ratheian High Command

If there is anything we can do to assist you in vanquishing Hataria, for it has become a habit of ours, we would love to.
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 02:20
TO: Fruity Loops
FROM: Ratheian High Command

If there is anything we can do to assist you in vanquishing Hataria, for it has become a habit of ours, we would love to.
To:Rathian High Command
From:President.Branch.

"We believe, We can handle this. But the more allies the better i assume."
The Kievan People
23-11-2004, 02:21
The Kievan People pledges its support to the nation of Fruity Loops. Unfortunately at this time our military is not fullt mobilizied and we cannot lend immediate military assistance, we can however provide commando units, volunteer corps, military supplies, and aerial support.

Respectfully, The Kievan People.
Present Day Comatica
23-11-2004, 02:25
Fruity Loops:

We have fought beside each other before, and we shall do it again.

OOC: My computer is a little slow right now, so I'm gonna be a little slow on reactions.
Ratheia
23-11-2004, 02:27
To:Rathian High Command
From:President.Branch.

"We believe, We can handle this. But the more allies the better i assume."

We know that you can handle it, but we really, really, really, want to test out our Thermobaric RPG's.
The Emperor Fenix
23-11-2004, 02:46
Go ahead. Make my day. We'll just shoot you down with our orbital lasers and hit back even harder. If you tick us off enough, then we'll bring in the starships.

The godmod starts already...sigh...

A cannot believe you wrote that (CM). Can you not... isnt this a nation game... whats happened to rules, slef regulation. You bring in space ships and i bring in the Xaxoss and i consume you country, if you cannot regulate yourself i will regulate you for you.
Sharina
23-11-2004, 02:50
OOC:

Why is everyone dogpiling aganist Hataria?

I notice that everyone is jumping onto Fruity Loops's bandwagon, and its most likely because of the ongoing dogpile.

I really think it would be a much better RP if the dogpile was removed.


Hataria gets 3 allies to fight with.

Fruity Loops gets 3 allies to fight with.

No dogpile. Then no need for god-moddery to ward off 20 invading nations.
Present Day Comatica
23-11-2004, 02:51
For now, I am sending Infantry Divisions 30-32 (15,000 men) and the second armored division. Also:

5 Emperor Class Battleships
12 Currier Class Cruisers
17 Latin Class Destroyers
13 Lapillus Class Submarines
4 Desert Class Aircraft Carriers

The 3-7th Aircraft divisions will also accompany them. (50 fighters, 10 bombers)

Let the games begin.
Present Day Comatica
23-11-2004, 02:53
OOC:

Why is everyone dogpiling aganist Hataria?

I notice that everyone is jumping onto Fruity Loops's bandwagon, and its most likely because of the ongoing dogpile.

I really think it would be a much better RP if the dogpile was removed.


Hataria gets 3 allies to fight with.

Fruity Loops gets 3 allies to fight with.

No dogpile. Then no need for god-moddery to ward off 20 invading nations.

Or if each ally sends the minimal amout of troops. That way all can participate, but they do not completely overpower Hataria
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 02:54
We thank everyone for there support,Ratheia we welcome your support. And Comatica, We fight side by side once again.
Zarbia
23-11-2004, 02:57
Zarbia will not stand by and watch their ally be attacked. Because of the RWC base exchange, there was already a good amount of Zarbian troops in Fruity Loops, about ten thousand.*

Back in mainland Zarbia, soldiers were on high alert and ready to be sent to Fruity Loops if needed.

OOC: FL, if you didn't participate in the base exchange tell me, and then everyone just ignore that.
Evil Woody Thoughts
23-11-2004, 03:02
OOC:

Why is everyone dogpiling aganist Hataria?

I notice that everyone is jumping onto Fruity Loops's bandwagon, and its most likely because of the ongoing dogpile.

I really think it would be a much better RP if the dogpile was removed.


Hataria gets 3 allies to fight with.

Fruity Loops gets 3 allies to fight with.

No dogpile. Then no need for god-moddery to ward off 20 invading nations.

OOC: I concur. I've been reading Hataria's rps as of late, and it seems like he sincerely tries to avoid godmodding in the first parts of the roleplays but he is later forced to godmode, to survive, after the dogpile.

Seriously, give Hataria some space to work with. Maybe if it was a one-on-one war with FL, Hataria could gain some good rp experience. But the other nationstates on this board aren't giving him a chance to rebuild his reputation by dogpiling and forcing him to godmod to preserve his sovereignty.

Hataria, if you want your war to be seen as 'legitimate' by the rest of the nationstates community, it's a good idea to explain, IC, why you are going to war. For example, the human rights abuses that other players have stated.

IC: The Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts wishes to remain neutral in this conflict. We would appreciate an explanation from Hataria as to why it deems war necessary, and we will offer to mediate peace talks between the two parties.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts
Sharina
23-11-2004, 03:04
Or if each ally sends the minimal amout of troops. That way all can participate, but they do not completely overpower Hataria

Thats true, however it doesn't solve the problem if 20+ nations decide to jump onto "Invade Hataria!" bandwagon.

Suppose the minimum troop limit for invaders is about 600,000 troops max.

And max navy size = 100 ships per nation.

Max airforce size = 1,000 planes per nation.

600,000 troops times 20 nations = 12 million combat troops for Hataria to defend aganist.

100 ships times 20 nations = 2,000 ships.

1,000 aircraft times 20 nations = 20,000 aircraft.

That sounds quite overwhelming. Get my drift?

Also, if we limit the number of allies to 3 - 5 per side, it eliminates the n00bs and such from the RP. These n00bs who either numberwank, nukkor j00, RP horribly, etc.


Just my two cents.
Klenland
23-11-2004, 03:05
The Confederacy of Klenland will remain neutral throughout this conflict.
Present Day Comatica
23-11-2004, 03:13
Thats true, however it doesn't solve the problem if 20+ nations decide to jump onto "Invade Hataria!" bandwagon.

Suppose the minimum troop limit for invaders is about 600,000 troops max.

And max navy size = 100 ships per nation.

Max airforce size = 1,000 planes per nation.

600,000 troops times 20 nations = 12 million combat troops for Hataria to defend aganist.

100 ships times 20 nations = 2,000 ships.

1,000 aircraft times 20 nations = 20,000 aircraft.

That sounds quite overwhelming. Get my drift?

Also, if we limit the number of allies to 3 - 5 per side, it eliminates the n00bs and such from the RP. These n00bs who either numberwank, nukkor j00, RP horribly, etc.


Just my two cents.

That does make sense, but 600,000 troops is a lot of troops to send to one place.

To eliminate the n00bs makes sense also; perhaps nations with experience can join us. The nations with lesser experience can remain neutral, or gain experience elsewhere.
Nycton
23-11-2004, 03:15
OOC: I've got exp, so hopefully I can remain with Hataria.
Trailers
23-11-2004, 03:15
Mutually Assured Hypocracy.
Sharina
23-11-2004, 03:29
That does make sense, but 600,000 troops is a lot of troops to send to one place.

To eliminate the n00bs makes sense also; perhaps nations with experience can join us. The nations with lesser experience can remain neutral, or gain experience elsewhere.

True again, Comatica.

However, there are some nations that throw around a million troops or more for invasions. Notably the 2003 nations, or some bold 2004 nations.

Do you remember the Hataria Mammalia war? DA, ITD, Nazi Weaponized Virus, etc. sent in millions of troops for invasion.

Thats the thing that drives Hataria to god-mod because the odds are so horrible, like 1 to 20 ratio of military. When faced with extremely unfair odds like that, it is perfectly understandable when players god-mod to preserve their nations for future RP'ing.

If I start up a war RP, and state the ally limit. Then more people dogpile, I will literally and practically I.G.N.O.R.E. them to preserve the quality of the RP, even though I hate ignoring people.
DemonStanbul
23-11-2004, 03:34
*Cough*

One of 2 things, War is war there is no such thing as a fair war. Whoever wants to join whoever side its that. Plus its not because we are joining FL because he has a lot of supporter, its because well...we don't quite like Hataria, no offence.

And can we please stay on topic its a war.

*Statement from Dictator of Demonstanbu to Leader of FLl:
"Though earlier we said we can't join in the main combat, still can't but we would like to test out our weapon. We will send it over to, we wait permission."
Evil Woody Thoughts
23-11-2004, 03:41
*Cough*

One of 2 things, War is war there is no such thing as a fair war. Whoever wants to join whoever side its that. Plus its not because we are joining FL because he has a lot of supporter, its because well...we don't quite like Hataria, no offence.


OOC: I have a suggestion for Hataria then.

Hataria, whenever you declare a war, close the thread to outside nations to avoid the dogpiling. I have never seen you do this.
Crazed Marines
23-11-2004, 03:46
The godmod starts already...sigh...
OOC: How is that a godmod? I'm a spacetech nation. I've RPed all of the said items before. I can explain at will how each of these items work. How is that a godmod?
DemonStanbul
23-11-2004, 03:47
awww what would the fun in that be ;)

Actually some of the nations aren't joining FL for that either but Hataria's allies are pissing some people off.
Sharina
23-11-2004, 03:51
*Cough*

One of 2 things, War is war there is no such thing as a fair war. Whoever wants to join whoever side its that. Plus its not because we are joining FL because he has a lot of supporter, its because well...we don't quite like Hataria, no offence.

And can we please stay on topic its a war.

*Statement from Dictator of Demonstanbu to Leader of FLl:
"Though earlier we said we can't join in the main combat, still can't but we would like to test out our weapon. We will send it over to, we wait permission."

This is true. War is indeed unfair.

BUT you're forgetting two very important things.

First, you aren't eliminated, truly defeated, or removed from NS if you lose a war. Your nation continues to exist regardless of the war.

Second, RP'ing is supposed to be fun and something to enjoy reading. The RP'ing is part of the NS game, and in any game, let it be video game, board game, card game, etc... fairness ensures a productive game "session" while cheating and unfairness ruins the fun and game experience.
Nycton
23-11-2004, 03:54
OOC: How is that a godmod? I'm a spacetech nation. I've RPed all of the said items before. I can explain at will how each of these items work. How is that a godmod?

If your spacetech, don't plan on using it on Modern/Post-Modern nations in wars. It's just not fair. Either use modern equipment or stick with future-tech threads.
Mauiwowee
23-11-2004, 03:54
OOC: A major criticism I've seen of Hataria's invasions are the hell he has worked on his economy by his frequent invasions. I'm in too many threads right now to join a full war on Hataria's side at this time, or I wold, just for the fun of the RP. With that in mind, and to avoid the "You lose, your economy can't handle this any more" arguments, I offer the following:

IC:

Encrypted Comminique'

To: The government of Hataria
From: The Kingdom of Mauiwowee
RE: War with Fruity Loops
Date: Today

Dear Sirs,
We are aware of your declared war on Fruity Loops. This has caused us significant concern in Mauiwowee. We tend to like Fruity Loops and there is a significant amount of distrust in you because of your frequent "war mongering" as it was described in a Military Briefing with the king today. However, we are agreed that Fruity Loops has shown and does show some extremely disturbing racist policies that need to be curbed before they spread. Our military has just returned from conflicts in The Generic Empire and Sarzonia and we are unwilling to send actual troops into combat at this time. However, recognizing that you economy is under strain because of conflicts you have engaged in, the king and government of Mauiwowee have authorized the following aid to assist you in your war with Fruity Loops. Specifically, we are donating to you, for use as you see fit in the war:

1. A complete carrier group consisting of a carrier with a full wing of F-23A Stealth fighters (75) and:
8 Battleships
6 Heavy Destoyers
6 Medium Destroyer
10 Heavy Cruisers
1 "Bud II" class nuclear submarine
10 Pausteur class hospital ships
2 Sub-Hunters

All ships are fully armed (except for nuclear weapons, we will not supply those) and you will need only to supply the crews. Additionally, we are sending:

2. 30 B-53 Stratofortress Stealth High Altitude Bombers w/ sufficient bombs for 10 full load runs

3. 2,000 Abrams tanks with ammo

4. 3,500 Ferret APV's, 1,000 of which are equipped with the 105 mm smoothbore guns, 1,000 of which have stinger or patriot missile launchers, 250 of which are equipped as hospital evac. vehicles and the remaider of which are outfitted with .50 cal. guns and mortars for urban combat (OOC: you need to see our thread on Ferrets to get the idea of what they are and can do). all fully armed with sufficient ammo for 3 full reloads of all systems.

5. 2 full tanker ships of diesel fuel for use during the war

6. 1 full tanker of gasoline

7. 75,000,000 barrels of jet fuel

8. 1 large urban hospital's worth of medicinal supplies, medicines, radiograghy equipment, etc.

9. 3,000,000 packs of C-Rations and MRE's for your troops

10. 200,00 small arms (rifles, sub-machine guns, pistols, grenades and grenade launchers, etc., our choice of the make and model) for your soldiers.

11. 2,500 RPG launchers with 1 grenade each.

We are also willing to guarrantee financing of up to an additional $10 billion dollars for your war efforts.

We ask the following in return for this aid package:

1. return of all equipment not used in the war or that is not totally destroyed in the conflict

2. A guarrantee of complete non-agression against us in the future

3. A payment of $1.5 billion payable at the rate of only $150 million per year, with -0- interest with the first payment being due 10 years from your acceptance of this deal and aid package (note this does not include any payments on any credit or money loaned under the $10 billion loan guarantee program, that would be an additional expense to be paid pursuant to any terms worked out at the time you decided to use that line of credit).

If this is acceptable to you, please let us know ASAP so that shipments can begin immediately.

sincerely,
General Jack T. Ripper
Mauiwowee Military Chief of Staff to
His Royal Highness,
King 'Lude II
Crazed Marines
23-11-2004, 03:58
If your spacetech, don't plan on using it on Modern/Post-Modern nations in wars. It's just not fair. Either use modern equipment or stick with future-tech threads.
Ok, I'll use my degraded satellites in the war. Yes, they do exist today; no, I can't talk about it...OpSec stuff.
Cheveka
23-11-2004, 04:00
Im on frooty loops side on this one. The genocides were fro good reason i have no reason to belive taht this is a country of hatred.
Cheveka
23-11-2004, 04:02
ooc: CM i need to talk to you so tg me or call
Crazed Marines
23-11-2004, 04:02
Good man Brandon!
--President mike Kowalski.
Cheveka
23-11-2004, 04:05
This is war is going to be as fast as the blitzkrieg forced apon europe by the german army during wwII

OOC: i do not support germany in any way during that war but their tactics were priceless
Cheveka
23-11-2004, 04:09
OOC:man you ppl need to talk about this stuff more
Godular
23-11-2004, 04:23
OOC: I personally support keeping this down to three on three. Those with the biggest oomph on each side get to keep this going to the end. If we want to see Hataria expand his RPing abilities, could we at least TRY to make it so he doesn't have to resort to godmoding?

Lets try to make this a fair conflict, at least. That way he can lose (or win! That'd be a surprise, and truth be told ya might wanna think about rewarding him somewhat if his RPing turns out at least halfway decent) FAIRLY.

You dogpile him, and you'll only be exacerbating the problem, rather than helping.
Golencia
23-11-2004, 04:26
A war cant be limited like what your asking. If he needs RP Skill he can stage a war make it a closed RP and then no dogpile excpet for the parties who were discussed to be in the war
Zarbia
23-11-2004, 04:33
I've got troops in FL, so I think I should be one of the three.
Godular
23-11-2004, 04:33
Can always just do it anyway. Just cuz it doesn't say its closed shouldn't automatically give license to every single country that "Wants a Piece" to charge in with guns blazing.

Give the guy a freakin' chance. He's TRYING to improve.

Edited to add: This post targeted at Golencia because I keep forgetting to quote
Sharina
23-11-2004, 04:33
A war cant be limited like what your asking. If he needs RP Skill he can stage a war make it a closed RP and then no dogpile excpet for the parties who were discussed to be in the war

Sorry, I must disagree with you.

Perhaps Hataria doesn't understand these protocols yet. Closed RP's lack dynamic stuff like in open RP's, and what better way to gain hands on experience than in open RP's?

I believe that open RP's with certain limitations would work. For example, the first 5 people who post that they want to war with Hataria will be Alliance A.

The first 5 people who post they support Hataria will be Alliance B.

No more nations will be allowed to dogpile after that. This provides first come, first serve basis, which still provides dynamic RP'ing.
Mauiwowee
23-11-2004, 04:37
I don't know if it will be a dogpile or not, but it seems to me that I've given Hataria some significant resources to fight with and avoid at least some claims that he is Godmodding.
The Kievan People
23-11-2004, 04:40
OOC: Sorry didn't think I wasn't welcome.

IC: The Kievan People have changed their position to neutral, and have completely closed borders to all participants involved, as well as forbidden any neutral shipping to said powers through Kievan Territotory, Waters, or Airspace.
Present Day Comatica
23-11-2004, 21:08
Looks like I can't participate.
The Emperor Fenix
23-11-2004, 22:35
what say TFU Hataria TEF and two others (or none others) do this then but first ill repeat my post from the other fruity loops must die thread :D

IC: Crassuss is inclined to postpone agression towards Fruity Loops until the nature and intent of their new leader is assertained, whatever attrocities they have commited in the past should be ignored for the moment, should the new leader turn out to be just as the old then the threat of war remains.
Crazed Marines
23-11-2004, 23:06
So as to avoid the "dogpile" mentality, I'll not fight. However, that does not stop me from suppling ordinace and other hardware.
Elvindis
23-11-2004, 23:33
I still offer my support against fruityloops and as few others have come forward I suppose I am in this for the long haul, besides we may be small but our military is strong. We will not falter we will not fail we will fight as long as need be numbers do not scare us for ours is the cause of justice .
Golencia
23-11-2004, 23:37
Invading a country is justcie? How many people here have complained about sovriegnty? Well if its ok to invade him, then i assume its OK for me to invade Elvindis if he supplies those against FL.

Golencian Website (http://www.freewebs.com/golencia)
Fruity Loops
23-11-2004, 23:39
I still offer my support against fruityloops and as few others have come forward I suppose I am in this for the long haul, besides we may be small but our military is strong. We will not falter we will not fail we will fight as long as need be numbers do not scare us for ours is the cause of justice .
Well, After this is over you wouldnt mind if i invade you then? and occupy you..
Elvindis
23-11-2004, 23:58
When this is over you will be gone and your people free. Besides no matter what army you bring the people of Elvindis will repel you. Everyone in our country has military training. But feel free to try. oh and its not an invasion it is a police action in order to stop the atrocities fruityloops is commiting against his own people We in THE MOST SERENE REPUBLIC OF ELVINDIS cannot, and will not sit iddly by while he murders his own people, though we are not a member of the UN or a signer of the Geneva Conventions or any other human rights policies we demand at least decent treatment of his people and equal rights for everyone in the nation of fruityloops, it is our firm belief that all people are equal. This was not a descision made lightly if he were to swear an oath against doing something like this again and take measures to stop his brutality we would have no need for this, as far as we are concerned this is a police action and our forces have been given strict rules of engagment to not involve civilians and to atack only legitimante military targets.
Golencia
24-11-2004, 00:00
When this is over you will be gone and your people free. Besides no matter what army you bring the people of Elvindis will repel you. Everyone in our country has military training. But feel free to try.

How did infants get military training? Im shocked an 80 year old woman will put my troops down. Either way before this is over we will invade you. Do not lend aid and our forces will stay at bay. Do not forget we have recieved 6 nuclear weapons from Grays Hill.
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 00:07
we have an anti nuke missle defense system. All we are doing is sending our navy and airforce so you would be facing the majority of our forces. we will not back down we will not yield we will be firm against any threats. It is a matter of honor its a matter of PRIDE :)
Fruity Loops
24-11-2004, 00:07
How did infants get military training? Im shocked an 80 year old woman will put my troops down. Either way before this is over we will invade you. Do not lend aid and our forces will stay at bay. Do not forget we have recieved 6 nuclear weapons from Grays Hill.
Nuclear weapons wont be needed, But just in case...*points to the mass-ammount of missile silos*
Fruity Loops
24-11-2004, 00:08
we have an anti nuke missle defense system. All we are doing is sending our navy and airforce so you would be facing the majority of our forces. we will not back down we will not yield we will be firm against any threats. It is a matter of honor its a matter of PRIDE :)
To bad they will all die...
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 00:10
Sighs no matter how many missles you throw at us it wont matter. our balistic missle defense imnpenatrable and shouldnt you be worried about defending your own nation? I did not even start this war. What to cowardly to take on Hataria, so you have to threaten his smaller ally? Are you reduced to bullying other nations now like a school kid? Sorry but our resolve is absolute.
Fruity Loops
24-11-2004, 00:13
Sighs no matter how many missles you throw at us it wont matter. our balistic missle defense imnpenatrable and shouldnt you be worried about defending your own nation? I did not even start this war. What to cowardly to take on Hataria, so you have to threaten his smaller ally? Are you reduced to bullying other nations now like a school kid? Sorry but our resolve is absolute.
ooc-thats godmoding... imnpenatrable?! impossible..sorry..but you might just get ignored...
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 00:20
and using nukes isnt godmoding? If you look at my country most of my money goes to defence and as we are a small nation a formidable anti missle defense is not out of the question, besides Hataria did put a ban on the use of nukes at the begining of this thread.
Bob-Bob
24-11-2004, 00:37
The Revised British Empire will support its long time ally of good standing and impeccable moral ethics to the end. The Empire strongly advises the Hataria stands down otherwise the Prime Minister cannot guarantee that the King will not declare a state of war.
Fruity Loops
24-11-2004, 00:41
and using nukes isnt godmoding? If you look at my country most of my money goes to defence and as we are a small nation a formidable anti missle defense is not out of the question, besides Hataria did put a ban on the use of nukes at the begining of this thread.
using nukes isnt godmoding....never said i was gonna use 'em..i said i had them..

The president extends its thanks to its ally Bob-Bob for their support.
DemonStanbul
24-11-2004, 00:59
Not to rain on everone's parade but wheres Hataria.... <.< >.> He hasn't been active in this thread at all lately. Did he leave for the holidays? <.< >.>
Emporer Pudu
24-11-2004, 01:01
OCC: if nukes were godmoding then nobody would use them or sell them. If you buy them you have a right to use them!

IC: Although my government does not usualy agree with Hataria, we also dont agree with the almost daily mass killings occuring in Fruity Loops. Because of this our government will remain neutral...for now.
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 01:22
We still support Hataria and refuse to back down
Nycton
24-11-2004, 01:25
Nukes are frowned upon. Besides, if you use any on a first strike, i'll launch every single of my 1,350 nuclear/chemical missiles of different variety and sizes on you and every colony you have. Then my 18,000 tanks, 14 million man military, and 11,000 combatant planes will crush on every hand clenching onto dear life. Your choice to any WMD triggy happy nations.
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 01:28
we deplore the use of nukes or attacks on civilians.
Present Day Comatica
24-11-2004, 01:37
and using nukes isnt godmoding? If you look at my country most of my money goes to defence and as we are a small nation a formidable anti missle defense is not out of the question, besides Hataria did put a ban on the use of nukes at the begining of this thread.

The success of a war for a nation depends not only on it's size, but RP ABILITY

It matters not if everyone in your nation has military training. Who says that they would be successful? Who says that they would be willing to fight?

And BTW: I have a rather large stockpile of nuclear weapons. Don't test us.
And we could always make a new thread where nuclear weapons are certainly allowed. And Fruity Loops is not cowardy. He can deal with Hataria while I take the honor of dealing with you.
Present Day Comatica
24-11-2004, 01:46
I would also like to add (To Elvindis) that my nation's military forces are nearly double to that of your entire nation's population.
Crazed Marines
24-11-2004, 18:47
Fruity Loops has our support.

SIC: ZZ nerve gas will reach you thru diplomatic channels, FL. This stuff can kill someone in concentration of 1 part per billion.
The Emperor Fenix
24-11-2004, 18:50
eh hem if you're gonna have a war lets have a good one both sides could just nerve gas each other. id appreciate it if we dont hear anymore of this gas plz.
Sanctaphrax
24-11-2004, 20:42
OOC: Guys, what he meant to say was no ABC weapons. (Atomic, biological, chemical). Hataria, remember, detailed posts, if you want, TG each post to me before you make it, i'll spellcheck it and return it to you for you to post. It will make a world of difference. If you need any ideas, let me know.

IC:
As a Hatarian ally, we must intervene on their side. We will not declare war on Fruity Loops, but we will send troops to the defence of Hataria. Any attack on them will be considered an act of war. Therefore, the following have been deployed.

100 M113-APC
100 Merkava III
150 Sabra MBT
100 Machbet mobile AA system
200 Ram-2000
100 Doher Artillery

200 F16i Sufa
100 Yas’ur 2000 choppers

They have been deployed forthwith to Hataria along with 10'000 soldiers in 10 Illeana Vassili class Aircraft carriers. We repeat, any firing upon of Sanctaphrax troops will result in a declaration of war, we are there in order to promote peace. Any FL/FL allies troops in Hataria will be shot at. Stay out of Hataria, and come to the table for talks.
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 20:45
I know that your military is large all I am doing is putting my navy and airforce at the disposal of Hataria. Just why are all of you supporting a murdering racist anyway? What is in it for you? Besides all my people have to do is use gurilla tactics, kill your leadership, and disrupt supplies, and we in Elvindis value freedom that is why we will fight, and that is why we will win because we believe in freedom and democracy for everyone.
Elvindis
24-11-2004, 20:52
Maybe I should detail the forces we are sending
2 Legals class carriers
5 heavy cruisers
1 Battle ship/ command ship (Night Wolf)
4 stealth submarines
100 flying wolf class stealth fighter/bombers
90 Armoured Raven class Attack Vitols.
We also would prefer a peacful end to this conflict but cannot abide the murder of innocent people within the nation of fruityloops.
Kaosu
24-11-2004, 21:38
So far I like how this little conflict is turning out. Nation against Nation. Such events further the spread of Chaos in the world, so long as there is no peaceful solution. As I care not which side actually wins this conflict, I offer my support to both sides. Granted offers of money, supplies, and the like may garner more support but such things are not required. Hmmmm............ Now that I think about it I shall send equal amount of troops to both camps in support of their efforts. The leaders of said camps may use them as they like, though I would appreciate them not being sent on suicide missions. Aside from this I shall watch how this developes from here. May Chaos break the rules that bind.

Lord of Kaosu
Golencia
24-11-2004, 23:25
Maybe I should detail the forces we are sending
2 Legals class carriers
5 heavy cruisers
1 Battle ship/ command ship (Night Wolf)
4 stealth submarines
100 flying wolf class stealth fighter/bombers
90 Armoured Raven class Attack Vitols.
We also would prefer a peacful end to this conflict but cannot abide the murder of innocent people within the nation of fruityloops.

FL Kills his people for his own reasons. You dont like his policies so you'll invade. Well i don't like smaller (godmodding) nations that will aid in this war. So i must invad you to stand by my beliefs. I've got the back-up. And FL is right, your defenses cant be impenetrable. Considering if you look at my Website, i have Suitcase Nukes as well, which might be wondering in your country already? Every think about that?

However i will stand by word, and if you interfere i will invade you. He may be racist and well lets face it a bit genocide happy, thats none of your business. I will sit by and watch if you do the same.
Zarbia
24-11-2004, 23:59
What the hell is up with all the month old countries trying to get in on the action? Let the big boys play.
Ass-Crackistan
25-11-2004, 00:21
We stand with the fruit loops. we oppose the hypocrisy of Hataria, and as we are currently having icy relations with Serafima, with whom the Sanctaphrax have 'relations' shall we say. we have 5 million men and a shiteload of wicker baskets. the glory day will be when we ride down water rides in huge fruit loops made of Hataria DEAD.....
Hardheads
25-11-2004, 00:53
Official Hardheads news release
While we do not condone the actions of the nation of Fruity Loops, we can not bring ourselves to join into a alliance based on another nations internal actions. The Incorporated States hereby declare their neutrality in this conflict.
Foreign Minister Trife
OOC: Tango Alfa Golf. This might be interesting.
The Emperor Fenix
25-11-2004, 01:05
All of you little people and big talking nations fankly your not going to get a crak at Hataria... NO NUKES, no retaliation for OOC talk no info gained from OOC no attacking tiny countries who do nont attack you... no excessive porturing From everyone its demeaning even if you dont see it yourselfves. come next week this can go ahead, and this thread will become obsolete i or someone else will create a thread for all those who wish to kill FL and all who wish to defend him (you may have noticed a slight excess of FL must die threads recently) the two sides must then decide amongst themselves say five people and then the rest must go or keep in OOC somewhere else. neither side will godmod or bend the rules of morality decency or physics and ill referee that myself if i have to. and afterwards whoever wins... thats the war its over (hopefully without descending into chaos) and the victory or loss of either side must be accepted with grace dignity and no ally retaliation/flaming etc. so now we can stop insulting each other or making threats we cant carry out.

Thank You
Zarbia
25-11-2004, 01:15
We stand with the fruit loops. we oppose the hypocrisy of Hataria, and as we are currently having icy relations with Serafima, with whom the Sanctaphrax have 'relations' shall we say. we have 5 million men and a shiteload of wicker baskets. the glory day will be when we ride down water rides in huge fruit loops made of Hataria DEAD.....

Hahahahaha, no.
Sanctaphrax
25-11-2004, 06:43
We stand with the fruit loops. we oppose the hypocrisy of Hataria, and as we are currently having icy relations with Serafima, with whom the Sanctaphrax have 'relations' shall we say. we have 5 million men and a shiteload of wicker baskets. the glory day will be when we ride down water rides in huge fruit loops made of Hataria DEAD.....
Funny, because I stand WITH Serafima and AGAINST.... you! Also, I stand against genocidal nations. i.e "the fruit loops".
Also, if you're refering to the general who was caught having an affair with a Serafimian woman, he was exiled from Sanctaphrax.
Serafima & Sparklemist are very pleasant nations, I will inform one of my allies, who has a 1.7Bn pop, that you have icy relations with Serafima. I am sure he would love to "meet" you.
You have 5 million men. I have 10 million in my army alone.
Besides, how can you have icy relations with anyone? You only have 2 posts, to get into an icy situation already takes talent.
Jankia
25-11-2004, 06:57
Jankia stands with Hataria, with a full attack force of 312 Million.
Swedish Dominions
25-11-2004, 21:20
ooc: HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
312 MILLION IS WAAAY TOO MUCH!!!! Not even the biggest and oldest nations has a full attack force of 312 Million!!

:D :D
The Emperor Fenix
25-11-2004, 21:34
lol... well that is pretty big, especially to donate to a single non-home soil conflict.. though i remind you im donating more. though theyre not human and not armed so i suppose it balances itself out.

Though your commitment to support is apreciatted... wait for the thread on monday i should think... if hataria or USFU ever say anything again.
Elvindis
25-11-2004, 22:02
Well i don't like smaller (godmodding) nations that will aid in this war. So i must invad you to stand by my beliefs. I've got the back-up. And FL is right, your defenses cant be impenetrable. Considering if you look at my Website, i have Suitcase Nukes as well, which might be wondering in your country already? Every think about that?

We are a small peacful country. All we want is equal rights for everyone. You say he murders his people for his own reasons? FRUITYLOOPS HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THAT THEY ARE PEOPLE NOT TOYS TO BE PLAYED WITH! As a leader of a nation he has a responsibility to all his citizens to treat them fairly, so am sending our modest forces to support Hataria, the fact that you are supporting a vicious murdering tyrant says quite a bit about your morals, like a total lack of them. You do what you feel you have to but the people of Elvindis will not tolerate an invader upon our soil. Besides threatening nukes is childish and boorish especially upon a country which does not have any nuclear chemical or biological weapons we in Elvindis deplore the use of such crude methods that are desgined to do nothing but cause suffering to innocent civilians. What we are doing is trying to stop Fruityloops from killing innocent people, however we also will not tolerate any human rights violations from either side. We would prefer a mature discussion about these topics. All we ask is that Fruityloops stop his genocidal rampage against his own citizens. While I do not claim we will win a war against you we will not bow down and will do what we must as our sense of compassion and moral outrage demand of us.
Malpirgi
25-11-2004, 22:22
Casual letter from the Grand Inquisitor of Malpirgi to the Hatarian Government.
_____________________________________________________________
Hallo.

Just dropping a line to your outstanding cause.

It's time, I think, for the nations involved to either stop bragging and get down to it, forget the whole thing, or assign an impartial delegate to diplomatically solve the problem.

I suggest getting down to it, as Fruity Loops really needs to be destroyed. Or "Governated." As we are a relatively small nation, our desire and ability to help is severely diminished. But the Consul officially supports your war.

Military action should be taken NOW, while the crimes against humanity that the government of Fruity Loops regularly commits are still fresh in the public mind.

I suggest forwarding copies of this letter to all of your allies.

The Grand Inquisitor Bahba o-H'Ryilee
Holy Republic of Malpirgi
The Emperor Fenix
25-11-2004, 22:29
We're (by we i say im pressing that we all) wait til monday to see if FL's new leader has anything to say about the matter... if he doesnt then in we go... after properly organising a REASONABLE attacing and defending force.
Golencia
26-11-2004, 02:54
We are a small peacful country. All we want is equal rights for everyone. You say he murders his people for his own reasons? FRUITYLOOPS HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THAT THEY ARE PEOPLE NOT TOYS TO BE PLAYED WITH! As a leader of a nation he has a responsibility to all his citizens to treat them fairly, so am sending our modest forces to support Hataria, the fact that you are supporting a vicious murdering tyrant says quite a bit about your morals, like a total lack of them. You do what you feel you have to but the people of Elvindis will not tolerate an invader upon our soil. Besides threatening nukes is childish and boorish especially upon a country which does not have any nuclear chemical or biological weapons we in Elvindis deplore the use of such crude methods that are desgined to do nothing but cause suffering to innocent civilians. What we are doing is trying to stop Fruityloops from killing innocent people, however we also will not tolerate any human rights violations from either side. We would prefer a mature discussion about these topics. All we ask is that Fruityloops stop his genocidal rampage against his own citizens. While I do not claim we will win a war against you we will not bow down and will do what we must as our sense of compassion and moral outrage demand of us.

Well if his people dont rise up against him, then they must not be bothered by this. How can you be peace loving if you send forces to interfere with a sovriegn country? I do not support FLs motives, i am Hispanic and Hispanics are targets in his country. However what he does there has nothing to do with me. Im not gonna go around invading a oriegn country because his principals arent the same as mine. Our Promise still stands.
Elvindis
26-11-2004, 04:09
It is not only his prinicples that bother me he is butchering people in the street, innocent people are dying, there are plenty of precedents to support a police action against him. The fact that it is a sovreign nation only goes so far. In Elvindis our view is you can do what you like as long as you dont hurt anyone else in the process, but he has no right to murder innocent people. Maybe his people cant rebel, maybe they dont have weapons it has happened before, if people do not have the means to rebel then they simply get masacared which is exactly what is happening. Motives are one thing I dont care what his motives are it is his actions that I am objecting to.
Nycton
26-11-2004, 04:42
I sent 2 large fleets earlier. One containing first response legions, which is about 3 Marine Legions, total 30,000 men strong. The other fleet is just about to his shore, carrying 60,000 men or 6 Army Legions. I also have a Mega Carrier(140 Aircraft) and 3 Super Carriers(Nimitz, 70). I am willing to push more troops to pressure the region. I will offer FL a chance, though. I will not even force him to change government. If he changes his policy, let a small amount of military personel for a short amount of time to inspect the situation to insure no more suffering is taking place, I will remove all military personal in the region. What says FL?
Golencia
26-11-2004, 05:25
It is not only his prinicples that bother me he is butchering people in the street, innocent people are dying, there are plenty of precedents to support a police action against him. The fact that it is a sovreign nation only goes so far. In Elvindis our view is you can do what you like as long as you dont hurt anyone else in the process, but he has no right to murder innocent people. Maybe his people cant rebel, maybe they dont have weapons it has happened before, if people do not have the means to rebel then they simply get masacared which is exactly what is happening. Motives are one thing I dont care what his motives are it is his actions that I am objecting to.

How can you say what he can and can't do. New leader maybe change, but none the less....you have no right to dictate what other nations can and cannot do.

Golencian Website (http://www.freewebs.com/golencia) has been UPDATED
Elvindis
26-11-2004, 20:36
He has a right to do what he likes until he violates the rights of others. Just because he is the leader of his country does not mean he owns his people, they have rights and freedoms just like anyone else, and when the government that is supposed to protect them violates those rights someone else must step in. Just as people have a responsibility to the government of their country to obey its laws (to a point an unjust law does not have to be obeyed) the government has a duty and a responsibility to ensure that ALL of its citizens are free, and safe. I know it sounds cheesey but with great power comes even greater responsibility. Someone has to be the police here, the fact that innocent people are dying at the hands of the government that is supposed to protect them gives me that right, however I will hold action until I hear from their new leader, and the our other allies, as our forces are too small to take fruityloops on their own. After all our intent is only to end the human suffering and human rights violations going on in fruityloops, not conquest.

As an aside we would like to thank Nycton for his resolve and his patience and would say that we stand with you 100%.
Hataria
26-11-2004, 21:08
OOC: Sorry that I wasn't online, My sister had to fix the PC.

IC: The Hatarians soon Launch 20 Minuteman ICBM's armed with High Explosive Warheads at Fruity Loops.

OOC: Ok, so it's short, and I am useing High Explosive and EMP Warheads on my ICBM's NO NUKES OR ANY OTHER WMD'S!
Hataria
26-11-2004, 21:52
Bump
Sanctaphrax
26-11-2004, 21:56
OOC: Sorry that I wasn't online, My sister had to fix the PC.

IC: The Hatarians soon Launch 20 Minuteman ICBM's armed with High Explosive Warheads at Fruity Loops.

OOC: Ok, so it's short, and I am useing High Explosive and EMP Warheads on my ICBM's NO NUKES OR ANY OTHER WMD'S!
Hataria, no nukes, you said so yourself. You cannot use nukes. I want to try something with you. Next time you get into a conflict, let me know. I want you, to not use missiles at all for the entire conflict. Not even conventional ones, just for one conflict.
Hataria
26-11-2004, 22:04
Hataria, no nukes, you said so yourself. You cannot use nukes. I want to try something with you. Next time you get into a conflict, let me know. I want you, to not use missiles at all for the entire conflict. Not even conventional ones, just for one conflict.

OOC: They are High Explosive Warheads, Non Nuke. and This is the Only Missile attack I am makeing. any other missiles will me lanuched from My ships and Subs (I will use Curise Missiles)
Golencia
26-11-2004, 22:11
OOC: They are High Explosive Warheads, Non Nuke. and This is the Only Missile attack I am makeing. any other missiles will me lanuched from My ships and Subs (I will use Curise Missiles)

Whether or not its a nuke doesn't matter. No WMDs. And if its an ICBM Loaded with high explosives thats prolly a WMD
Elvindis
27-11-2004, 07:02
It is not only the weapons used but, how they were used that makes me want to rethink our military position, afterall an atack like that would harm civilians not just his military. We in Elvindis would like to see as few civilian casualties as possible.



ooc: Hataria you are seriously streching things, after all high explosives can come pretty close to causing as much devastation as small nukes.
Mauiwowee
27-11-2004, 07:28
OOC: Sorry that I wasn't online, My sister had to fix the PC.



OOC:
Cool sister, I don't have a sister, but I live for the day my wife or sisters-in-law can fix a PC without me. :)

BTW, you might want to make sure you've read the thread, a lot has been said in your abscence. You have a major offer of assistance from my nation for instance. I might think twice about the ICBM's with high explosive warheads though, that might be viewed as bordering on the WMD ban imposed in this thread. It is definitely not nice as it kills too many innocent civilians and doesn't take out just military/government targets. But, it might be a good way to start a war, by the heavy damage it would inflict, but it could incite your opponent's surviving population into a frenzy aimed at you and boosting their ability to fight. I don't know, I"ll let ya'll worry about that.
Elvindis
27-11-2004, 07:40
If civilian casualties become too high we in Elvindis may be forced to rethink our position. Not that our military contribution will make much of a diffrence, but its the thought that counts, however we are sending our best doctors and medics to treat all people who are injured in this fight, we hope that both Hataria and Fruityloops give them free passage through the war front as this is a humanitarian aid only and we pledge upon our honor that they will carry no weapons we hope both sides will want to minimize the death toll in this conflict.
Golencia
27-11-2004, 19:47
The Golencian Navy departs to impose a blockade on Elvindus. The 1st and 3rd Fleets were sent and can be found here (http://www.freewebs.com/golenstore) The 2nd Fleet has left to intercept any aid sent, while the 4th prepares for an Invasion on Elvindus.

OOC: No hard feelings man i just really want to get a war rp going...and well here you need a good cause
Elvindis
27-11-2004, 20:34
OOC: Its cool we will put up a fight though.


MY people today we face a grave threat the nation of Golencia has decided to declare war upon our nation, this unprovoked war will not go unpunished though we are out numbered we will fight to defend our freedoms our civil rights, and our national integrity.

As the president speaks despite their fear despite their aprehension the people cheer they know that they will suffer and that many brave soldiers will die but never will they surrender never will they give in for all know that freedom is something that must be fought for.

As the Golencia navy begins its blockade, within moments of arriving at the shores of Elvindis explosions rock the 2 lead ships and just as suddenly as begun the atack ends, as the submarine responsible once again activates its stealth and streams away leaving a message more potent than words that despite being a nation of only twenty million they have teeth.


OOC: Dont expect this to be easy, I'll leave it to you to determine how much damage was done to your ships, and yes expect more like it, our nation makes up for its lack of numbers with a high tech base so despite its small size our military is state of the art.
Elvindis
27-11-2004, 20:36
We in Elvindis would also like to ask support from any freedom loving nation to help us against the naked agression of Golencia.
Grays Hill
27-11-2004, 20:49
As with our mutual protection pact, any agression upon Golencia will be met with swift retaliation from the Gray Forces.
Golencia
27-11-2004, 20:52
Explosion hits the Lead cruiser. 34 Crew Members flew up from the Ship and splashed into the water. The boat was damaged but with a tow boat it was able to be pulled away. Another torpedo swirves hitting something under the water. The other Cruiser felt a shake but settled, they noticed the Elvindus dock was shaking.

The Seawolf and L.A. Class subs in the first fleet secured the oceans water around the blockade.

Admiral Johnson: "Allright boys this blockade turned into a war. I want all ships to fire on the shore hit any cities by the sea and sink the docks! I want the F-35s to fly closer in and fire on any enemy installations!"

The 2 Carriers in the 1st fleet carrying F-35s launched their air craft. The Other warships began firing on the shore and docks.

*Meanwhile*
The 2nd and 4th Fleets were still in hot pursuit of the Elvindus Navy.

*In Golencia*
80,000 Marines borded into Landing Crafts and Chinooks which would carry them to Elvindus.
Grays Hill
27-11-2004, 21:02
Due to the recent attack upon Golencia Grays Hill is forced to be flung into the conflict. Grays Hill is sending the following to aide Golencia with their navy:

Teupelov Fleet:

7 CVN-65 Illeana Vassili Class Carriers (3 loaded with F-35 JSF, 3 with F/A-18 Hornets)
5 Nimitz-Class Carriers (2 loaded with F-35 JSF, 2 with F/A-18 Hornets)
9 SSN-688 Los Angeles Subs
10 Seawolf Subs
36 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
46 Krasina/Slava-Class Guided Missile Cruisers
86 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigates
37 Arleigh Burke AEIGS Destroyers
47Spruance-Class Destroyers
415 LHD-1 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ship
130 LSD-49 Harpers Ferry Class Amphibious Assault Ships
126 Landing Craft Air Cushioned (LCAC)
190 AAVP7A1 Assault Amphibian Vehicle Personnel

A total of 150,000 are to be deployed to Elvindis. Some will paradrop in, others, will make a forward beach attack, hitting at three different points, as to create a beach head for more troops to come later.
Hataria
27-11-2004, 22:03
Hataria is sending a Invasion Force to attack Fruity Loops.

First Invasion Fleet

2 King Tut Class Carriers (Each Carrying 34 Sivik Stealth Fighters)
8 Pacifica Class Destroyers
5 Black Dragon Class Battleships
9 Dead Moon Class Cuirsers
5 Neherenia Class Battleships
10 Sea Wolf Class Subs
53 Troop Carriers

Second Invasion Fleet

3 Black Lady Class Carriers (Each Carrying 45 B-2 Bombers)
5 Sharktooth Class Battleships
6 Asakura Class Curisers
4 Republic Class Destroyers
6 Empire Class Destroyers
23 Tangalee Class Attack Subs
45 Troop Carriers

278,900 Troops
34 Tank Divisions with 78 Tanks in each
20 Armored Divisions
43 Artillery Divisions

45 F-18 Fighters
23 MiG-45 "Saber"
34 F-15 Tomcats
29 B-52 Bombers
Golencia
27-11-2004, 22:32
The Landing Crafts still make way to Elvindus while 50,000 Soldiers and 10,000 Marines paradrop in to Elvindus. They met no resistance but go on the move in hunt for the Elvindus Capitol.

600 Abrams Tanks are on their way with the Landing Crafts.
Present Day Comatica
27-11-2004, 23:04
The Landing Crafts still make way to Elvindus while 50,000 Soldiers and 10,000 Marines paradrop in to Elvindus. They met no resistance but go on the move in hunt for the Elvindus Capitol.

600 Abrams Tanks are on their way with the Landing Crafts.

Is this a war between you and Elvindis, or is this all part of the FL-Hatarian war? Because if it isn't, you should probably take it to a new thread.
Golencia
27-11-2004, 23:09
Its part of their war. He's helping the Hataria and im stopping him.
Present Day Comatica
27-11-2004, 23:15
Its part of their war. He's helping the Hataria and im stopping him.

Very Well.

As for the FL-Hatarian conflict:

Because I did not make it here in time to scrape by the ally limit, I will be with Fruity Loops in spirit, also in ordinance. I think support in the way of dollars and cents is in order. Fruity Loops, 7 billion dollars are coming your way, and another 3.5 billion dollars are coming for medical expenses. I wish you all the luck in the world.
Grays Hill
27-11-2004, 23:52
Grays Hill will be sending the 101st Marine Infantry Brigade to Fruity Loops in defense of his nation. The 101st consist of:
101st Marine Infantry Brigade:

110,039,206-Foot Soldiers
664 CH-47 Chinooks
584 MH-60 Multi-Mission/ Special Operations Aircraft Black Hawk
389 H-35 Sikorskys
439 Mi-35 Hinds
542 AH-64 Apaches
482 C-5 Galaxys
661 C-141 Starlifter
1,467 HMMWV-M707 Striker/Knights
1,256 M1A2 Abrams
1,619 Challenger 2 MBTs
1,424 Crusader Artillerys
1,509 BMP-3 Fighting Vehicles
767 Type 99 155mm HSP (Howitzer Self Propelled)

Also the 39th Fighter Regiment will be sent.
39th Fighter Regiment:

795 F/A-18 Hornets
486 Typhoon EF-2000 Eurofighters
529 Mirage 2000s
414 FB-111s
Helgahn
28-11-2004, 03:55
i know your gonna say something back at this but just to clarify marines use:
Sea Hawks not Black Hawks
they sure as hell dont use a hind unless their russian
Aapaches are Army and Cobras are used by the marines
America doesnt even have that many Abrams
and the type 99 not american

i get your not an american nation but you need to pick a freaking hemisphere where your gonna get your weapons
Grays Hill
28-11-2004, 06:00
i know your gonna say something back at this but just to clarify marines use:
Sea Hawks not Black Hawks
they sure as hell dont use a hind unless their russian
Aapaches are Army and Cobras are used by the marines
America doesnt even have that many Abrams
and the type 99 not american

i get your not an american nation but you need to pick a freaking hemisphere where your gonna get your weapons

OOC: The US Marines use Sea Hawks not black hawks. My military is multinational, using equiptment from all over the world. And the bit about America not haveing that many abrams, America also doesnt have as many people as I do. When your population is half of that of the RL world, then you would have more military than that of the US. BTW, please, in the future, DO NOT tell me what to do.
Golencia
28-11-2004, 08:36
OOC: ROFL! If you knew he wasnt an american nation then why did you complain about his multinational crap....BTW Russians, The British and America all have Marines.....So what gun they use shouldn't have been an issue...also its seems to me his weapons came from the Northern Hemisphere....

IC:
The Landing Craft reach their target zone in Elvindus, 600 Tanks steamroll onto the shore while 70,000 Marines storm off securing the beach. More Landing Crafts depart full of Soldiers from the Golencian Army while the ones in Elvindus depart to pick up more soldiers.

*Meanwhile* The Navy continues its bombardment on the Elvindus coast and ports, there seems to be no sign of the Navy stopping with its steady supply line
Evil Woody Thoughts
28-11-2004, 23:04
OOC: Sorry that I wasn't online, My sister had to fix the PC.

IC: The Hatarians soon Launch 20 Minuteman ICBM's armed with High Explosive Warheads at Fruity Loops.

OOC: Ok, so it's short, and I am useing High Explosive and EMP Warheads on my ICBM's NO NUKES OR ANY OTHER WMD'S!

Our government still seeks an official explanation from the Government of Hataria as to why it is making war upon Fruity Loops.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts

OOC: Other nations have brought up genocide, but Hataria, you really need to explain ICly why your nation went to war. Doing so will lend more credibility to your cause.
Hataria
29-11-2004, 00:08
*Meanwhile* The Navy continues its bombardment on the Elvindus coast and ports, there seems to be no sign of the Navy stopping with its steady supply line


The Hatarians are sending a Naval Force to attack and destroy the Golencian Navy at Elvindus.

Sentai Cobra Moon

4 Golden Queen Galaxia Class Carriers
10 Republic Class Destroyers
8 Pacifica Class Destroyers
7 Sharktooth Class Battleships
5 Asakura Class Curisers
2 Dead Moon Class Curisers
Golencia
29-11-2004, 00:53
Crewmen: "Sir! We have sights of a smal naval force heading our way!"

Admiral Johnson: Put all Airmen and Firemen on alert! i want direct connection whith each Captain of every ship. Ge the Vice-Admiral and Rear Admiral down hear!"

Crewmen: "YES SIR!"

Moments later......
Admiral: "All carriers Alert 5! Alert 5! This is not a drill!"
Admiral to Captains: "OK I want all the subs in place to intercept that naval fleet! When they reach these coordinates i want all Air Crafts Airborn and ready for combat. Sub commanders you have permission to open fire when you see fit!"

The Vice and Rear Admirals run up to the Admiral. "Sir you asked to see us?"
"Yes i want you Vice-Admiral to contact the Grays Hill Fleet and tell them we're going to need thier help to intercept the Hatarian Fleet. Rear Admiral i want you to monitor the fleets movements and make sure each captain is taking the neccesarry precautions, I'll alert the Naval Department to stop the supply shipments, have the Destroyers and Cruisers take the front and fire when enemy fleet is in range."

TELEGRAM to GRAYS HILL
We need you to use your fleet as back up. Our fleet is much larger then The Hatarian fleet approaching u, not to mention the Subs, all thanks to you, however if for any reason we fail, we're going to need back up.

Vice-Admiral Nelson

The Admirals left and did as they were told.
*Meanwhile*
General Powell: "Allright boys this is the moment of truth, may be a general but today im fighting with you! Marines go inland, i want the Army to set up a beachead to secure our flank then using what soldiers you have left to moe in and reenforce us!"

The Rest of the Golencian Military arrived and rushed inland.

OOC: Elvindus i need you to post!
Grays Hill
29-11-2004, 03:26
The Gray Naval fleet was just pulling into Elvindis waters when the telegram came through to Beaufort, the capital city. It was immeaditly forwarded to the Gray Fleet now entering Elvindis waters. A telegram was sent to the Golencian capital telling them that the Gray Fleet had just entered into Elvindis waters and not to fire upon them.
Nycton
29-11-2004, 03:42
The Nycton Fleet led by the Brutii has been put on high alert, all men are at battle stations. FL should stand down now, for face the might of the Nycton military.
Wolfish
29-11-2004, 16:34
Tag.
Golencia
29-11-2004, 20:52
OOC: You didnt state that you were sending any subs.....

IC:
Admiral Johnson: "Allright boys Our allies have pulled in stay focused on the Hatarians. I want the Subs to engage NOW! Get those F-35s Airborne! I want that fleet put back!"

Crewmen: "SIR! The 3 fleets you ordered from Grays Hill storefront have arrived! We can use those subs and Carriers as well!"

Admiral Johnson: "GREAT TIMING! Allright have the F/A 18s Airborne and put the F-35s on Alert 5, for the incoming fleet!"

Crewmen: "Yes Sir!"

The submarines in the Golencian Navy were in range each sub fired at the enemy carriers, launching two torpedoes per sub(Approximately:40 Torpedoes at your 4 Carriers 10 each)

*On the Land*
Golencian Marines surged further closing in on the capitol.

General Powell: "Where in the hell are there fighting men!? This is too easy for us to get this far. Men stop take a rest."

The General Telegramed the Emperor: "Sir i think we have a problem. There appears to be no sign of the enemy, i dont know if they rushed to the other end of their country or what, were about 10,000 Acres in, and this traveling is wearing out my men out. We're piching camp early and are gonna rest up. If you have any other orders for us, we'll be waiting for a reply."

Reply to General Powell: "General, Our Navy is blockading and about to engage in a Battle. I'd say this conflict is more of a Naval Warfare. Have your men rest up and occupy the land. Do not go any further."

Confused the General decided he shouldn't of even been there, it was supposed to be a simple Blockade. The Army strengthened the beach head and made patrols through out the Conquered lands.

Telegram to Elvindus:
Our Armies have made it deep into your territory, yet no engagements
have taken place. Our Navy will withdraw as soon as your aid for the enemy
ends. Our Army will withdraw as soon as we are certain our Navy is safe, and
you sign a Treaty.

Emperor Ruben
Hataria
29-11-2004, 21:39
All four Carriers were Hit by the enemy, But all the Planes were sent up to attack the enemy Fleet with a Kamikaze attack. they were to destroy every enemy Carrier and all enemy Troops on the Ground.
Golencia
29-11-2004, 21:43
Launches the IGNORE Missile...is this what everyone meant by his godmodding
Hataria
29-11-2004, 21:50
Launches the IGNORE Missile...is this what everyone meant by his godmodding

OOC: Nope, Last Stand.


To: Elvindus

You're on your own now.
Fruity Loops
29-11-2004, 21:53
"SIR! We have ICBM's heading our way!" a man shouted.

"FIRE ALL DEFENSIVE MISSILES AT THOSE DAMNED MISSILES! Every inocent Fruity Loops citizen who dies, They better expect 10 times the ammount of there civilians.." The missiles fired hopeing to hit the incoming ICBM's... They waited for any confirmation.

"Well, Its time i suppose.... Are the ICBM's ready?" (ooc..high explosive, not nuclear)

"Always are sir. Waiting for your confirmation."

"Fire them.. Lets hope we kill some Hatarian citizens.."

38 ICBM's fitted with High explosives launched. The sweat beat down everyones faces, They could only wait..
Hataria
29-11-2004, 21:58
"SIR! We have ICBM's heading our way!" a man shouted.

"FIRE ALL DEFENSIVE MISSILES AT THOSE DAMNED MISSILES! Every inocent Fruity Loops citizen who dies, They better expect 10 times the ammount of there civilians.." The missiles fired hopeing to hit the incoming ICBM's... They waited for any confirmation.

"Well, Its time i suppose.... Are the ICBM's ready?" (ooc..high explosive, not nuclear)

"Always are sir. Waiting for your confirmation."

"Fire them.. Lets hope we kill some Hatarian citizens.."

38 ICBM's fitted with High explosives launched. The sweat beat down everyones faces, They could only wait..

Hataria Fires 43 ABMs at the enemy Missiles.
Fruity Loops
29-11-2004, 22:01
Hataria Fires 43 ABMs at the enemy Missiles.
ooc- post your losses of missiles please..

IC:15 went down, The rest were supposed to, hit there target
Hataria
29-11-2004, 22:13
ooc- post your losses of missiles please..

IC:15 went down, The rest were supposed to, hit there target

56,000 Civilians killed
23,000 Military Killed

R.I.P FL, I am telling Sanctaphrax.
Fruity Loops
29-11-2004, 22:16
56,000 Civilians killed
23,000 Military Killed

R.I.P FL, I am telling Sanctaphrax.

Lets see... Lets see....

1) I had ground to, Why? You fired upon me, Therefore i reserve the right to launch ICBM's correct?
2) I wont rest in peace untill your dead.
Kriegorgrad
29-11-2004, 22:18
OOC: I'd help but I can't be arsed...so this is basically explaining my idleness which could be explained alot better by simply saying nothing...I'll leave now.
Fruity Loops
29-11-2004, 22:21
OOC: I'd help but I can't be arsed...so this is basically explaining my idleness which could be explained alot better by simply saying nothing...I'll leave now.
ooc-lol
Hataria
29-11-2004, 22:21
The Invasion Fleet appears of the Coast of Fruity Loops, and begins to send the Fighters and Bombers to attack and destroy all Army, Naval and air force bases the enemy has. at the same time The Fleet luanches 45 Curise Missiles, three at a Time at the enemy Cities.

Post Looses PLZ.
Golencia
29-11-2004, 22:22
The Golencian Marines Occupying Elvindus decide that they will turn this time into some recreatinal time. ON The Beach they get several Volleyball games while the rest chop down trees and make a landing strip for the Air Force.
Fruity Loops
29-11-2004, 22:23
The Invasion Fleet appears of the Coast of Fruity Loops, and begins to send the Fighters and Bombers to attack and destroy all Army, Naval and air force bases the enemy has. at the same time The Fleet luanches 45 Curise Missiles, three at a Time at the enemy Cities.

Post Looses PLZ.
ooc-HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET THERE?! this is so poorly RPed..sorry but im just going to ignore this war.. no wonder i took a 5 day vacation, no stress..... ah im going to go now... and watch....band of brothers..
Golencia
29-11-2004, 22:25
ooc-HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET THERE?! this is so poorly RPed..sorry but im just going to ignore this war.. no wonder i took a 5 day vacation, no stress..... ah im going to go now... and watch....band of brothers..
OOC-WOOHOO Band of Brothers! The Best of the Best!
Hataria
29-11-2004, 22:26
Hataria is sending a Invasion Force to attack Fruity Loops.

First Invasion Fleet

2 King Tut Class Carriers (Each Carrying 34 Sivik Stealth Fighters)
8 Pacifica Class Destroyers
5 Black Dragon Class Battleships
9 Dead Moon Class Cuirsers
5 Neherenia Class Battleships
10 Sea Wolf Class Subs
53 Troop Carriers

Second Invasion Fleet

3 Black Lady Class Carriers (Each Carrying 45 B-2 Bombers)
5 Sharktooth Class Battleships
6 Asakura Class Curisers
4 Republic Class Destroyers
6 Empire Class Destroyers
23 Tangalee Class Attack Subs
45 Troop Carriers

278,900 Troops
34 Tank Divisions with 78 Tanks in each
20 Armored Divisions
43 Artillery Divisions

45 F-18 Fighters
23 MiG-45 "Saber"
34 F-15 Tomcats
29 B-52 Bombers


See, here Are the Invasion Fleets
Marsania
29-11-2004, 23:58
Marsville, November 29th 2004

The Marsanian Empire officialy declares war on the Hatarian Empire!
We cannot tollarate they're war declaration on Fruity Loops and we will use all that is in our power to defeath those Hatarian losers!


Mars IX Führer and Emperor of the Greater Marsanian Empire.
Procco
30-11-2004, 00:03
Don't even bother. I thought Hataria was nuked numerous times.

Oh, Golencia: Can some of my soldiers join in the volleyball game? They'd love to own you at it ;)
Golencia
30-11-2004, 00:05
OOC: LOL
IC:
Of course we could use a challenge
Hataria
30-11-2004, 00:05
Marsville, November 29th 2004

The Marsanian Empire officialy declares war on the Hatarian Empire!
We cannot tollarate they're war declaration on Fruity Loops and we will use all that is in our power to defeath those Hatarian losers!


Mars IX Führer and Emperor of the Greater Marsanian Empire.


OOC: and the n00b's and Godmoders come fouth................RUN FOR IT!
Golencia
30-11-2004, 00:07
OOC: and the n00b's and Godmoders come fouth................RUN FOR IT!
Godmodders....jee who calculated all of my damages? claiming to have wiped me out entirely
Procco
30-11-2004, 00:07
Golencia: Youre on, sucka ;)

Hataria: Ah, irony.
Grays Hill
30-11-2004, 00:08
I have also officially ignored this war also. Hataria, there is no way that you could destroy all his ships. First of all it is a godmod for you to say that his entire navy is destoryed, its a godmod to even say one bit of damage. Also, ships have AA guns, to shoot down planes, for that reason.
Hataria
30-11-2004, 00:14
Godmodders....jee who calculated all of my damages? claiming to have wiped me out entirely

I didn't Claim to wipe you out, I said the Planes were heading for your Fleet, NOT attacking it now. Put up a defense or something. I post my losses, you post yours and lets blow our selfs up.
Hataria
30-11-2004, 00:24
Bump
Golencia
30-11-2004, 01:37
After re-reading your post i can see you said were to...and not did...i noticed it was unedited so i will continue....

The Airborne F/A-18s and F-35s engage in combat with the Kamikaze Pilots. Meanwhile the remaining F-35s took off to join up with their comrades and A Fierce air battle took place and several Air Crafts were lost And ship damages.

Damages:
1 Cruiser Sunk
3 Destroyers damaged
17 F/A-18s
13 F-35s

OOC: Im assuming that all the Kamikazes are gone...since they WERE Kamikazes but still i geuss you should post
Belem
30-11-2004, 04:37
tag for IC posting later
Hataria
01-12-2004, 03:40
34 MiG-28's
23 F-16 Tomcats
32 Sivik-67 Stealths
12 B-2 Bombers

OOC: Yep they are the losses, not the count of how many I have to destroy your fleet, you took that out.
Hataria
01-12-2004, 15:23
Bump
Neo sephrioth
01-12-2004, 15:29
OOC hatria remember the dark emipire of sephrioth is watching you and one off theese days we will crush you.
The Imperial Navy
01-12-2004, 15:31
Haven't seen you in a while Hataria... guess I haven't seen this thread before.
Hataria
01-12-2004, 16:59
Bump

To: Fruity Loops

Read the whole Thread, I sent the Invasion Fleet right after The ICBM's were Launched.
Hataria
01-12-2004, 22:35
Bump