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I woul like to claim Malta

St John Hospitaller
07-10-2004, 00:54
The Grandmaster of the (Nationstates) Order of the Knights of St John Hospitaller (Me) lays claim to the Island of Malta. I realize that others may also claim this small parcel of Land, but we do have historic ties to the island. we have no problems with hosting bases. Even if others claim the island , i will not drop my claim. (Any attempt to make war will be ignored.) This is strictly to make my claim official. If there are problems, please tell me. Otherwise, I would appreciate a little recognition. Thank you very much.

-The Grandmaster of the Knights of St John Hospitaller
Vastiva
07-10-2004, 08:36
St John,

All you need to do is remember that NS works by the "planet the size of jupiter" or "many planes" theories of existance.

In either one, if you want Malta - poof it's yours. And if anyone argues, tell them to bugger off. It's a non-issue.

For giggles, put your claim on Chellis' and HPs land claims, and tell IDF you're on Malta. See what happens.
Momanguise
07-10-2004, 09:14
I think that WA claims Malta, but as Vastiva says, it makes no difference. Personally I love Malta, all them crazy roads.....
Holy panooly
07-10-2004, 10:08
St John,

All you need to do is remember that NS works by the "planet the size of jupiter" or "many planes" theories of existance.

In either one, if you want Malta - poof it's yours. And if anyone argues, tell them to bugger off. It's a non-issue.

For giggles, put your claim on Chellis' and HPs land claims, and tell IDF you're on Malta. See what happens.

IDF can't do anything since Western Asia owns them according to both our lists. Just claim or attack the islands, make it a good RP and I don't know why someone who hasn't been on the forum for weeks must keep 2 small islands.
Vastiva
07-10-2004, 10:29
*looks over glasses*

Honestly, why would you care? He wants it, it's his. Why would you believe that your thread, or Chellis' thread, or anyone elses thread mattered for a hill of beans about who owns what where when?

There's 80 THOUSAND players on here. Trust me, everything has been claimed, alot.

As to what IDF can and cannot do - I am absolutely sure IDF doesn't need your permission to trade with Malta. Or to do anything else, for that matter.

Good Day to you.
Holy panooly
07-10-2004, 10:46
*looks over glasses*

Honestly, why would you care? He wants it, it's his. Why would you believe that your thread, or Chellis' thread, or anyone elses thread mattered for a hill of beans about who owns what where when?

There's 80 THOUSAND players on here. Trust me, everything has been claimed, alot.

As to what IDF can and cannot do - I am absolutely sure IDF doesn't need your permission to trade with Malta. Or to do anything else, for that matter.

Good Day to you.

My friend, playing with a nation is something diffirent than owning it. IDF may play with Israel all he wants and that doesn't make it his. Everything may have been claimed but I stick to mine or Chellis list, otherwise we will get those nice earth 100000 situations again with everybody claiming everything. Play you take it and keep it or have a nice chaos where everyone plays with everything without an owner. Have you noticed no new earth threads popped up after I started my RL claims thread? The sole reason people made new earths was because 1) nations were already taken and most important 2) the nations that weren't take weren't added because a certain chap who registered in 2002 didn't like to change his precious list.
The Imperial Navy
07-10-2004, 10:54
I wouldn't worry about it. My home nation is based on one of the many Europes, and they all exist all over the place. Take malta, and screw anyone who says otherwise.

on one note though, would the natives of this particular Malta welcome outside visitors? You may have to seize the island by force. it's happened elsewhere.
Momanguise
07-10-2004, 10:59
Knowing the history of Malta they would probably welcome the Knights of St. John with open arms. Silly indocrinated christians.
Vastiva
07-10-2004, 10:59
My friend, playing with a nation is something diffirent than owning it. IDF may play with Israel all he wants and that doesn't make it his. Everything may have been claimed but I stick to mine or Chellis list, otherwise we will get those nice earth 100000 situations again with everybody claiming everything. Play you take it and keep it or have a nice chaos where everyone plays with everything without an owner. Have you noticed no new earth threads popped up after I started my RL claims thread? The sole reason people made new earths was because 1) nations were already taken and most important 2) the nations that weren't take weren't added because a certain chap who registered in 2002 didn't like to change his precious list.

Firstly, we're not friends.

Second, you're wrong, another thread popped up and I'm sure more will. They don't matter for a hill of beans either.

Third, "owning" appears rather important to you. Perhaps that's why the whole series of events that concerned Guffingford happened?

This is a GAME. There is no "ownership". It's open. There isn't even a "we", as there is no one on here who interacts with everyone. If I want to "own" Mississippi, poof I own Mississippi. If someone doesn't like it, bugger em.

Finally, take your pride, fold it to all sharp points, then stick... to your own thread if you want, but you're hijacking a thread on a meaningless display of how arrogance impedes role play. And personally, I don't care. St John can own Malta - which is the whole subject of this thread. If someone doesn't like it, they don't have to play with him. Or they can decide to play with the "multiple planes" theory. Or they can work out a solution that everyone can deal with. That's the way of consensual role play. Basic Rule: Play Nice With Others.

Please study that rule, there will be a test later.

Good Day to you.
Holy panooly
07-10-2004, 11:12
(...)

We are friends because I say so. I haven't seen the new earth, is that number 7? Owning land is important indeed since you know what's yours and whatnot. Why would anyone want to start a thread about owning land in earth when its not important? There must be ownership otherwise it'll become an even bigger mess. Your example of Mississippi is so utterly wrong I don't know where to start. People own it in RL earth, Earth II and more earths probably, play with it and RP it as their property and you come in and say its yours? That's a nice way to RP with others as long as the original owners aren't involved. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357601

I suggested to him how he can receive ownership and you take it to the extreme again. What does Guffingford has to do with this? This "discussion" is terminated.
Moleland
07-10-2004, 11:46
OOC: Sounds like a police station. 'This interview is terminated....'
Vastiva
08-10-2004, 08:12
We are friends because I say so.

"With friends like this, who needs enemas?"


I haven't seen the new earth, is that number 7? Owning land is important indeed since you know what's yours and whatnot.

You miss the point. There is no graphic map, there is no way to put everyone on it. Either NS Earth is the size of Jupiter, or it's multiplanar, or something else. In any case, it's irrelevant. If I don't want to RP with you, that our nations touch on some map is irrelevant.

Why would anyone want to start a thread about owning land in earth when its not important?

Uhm, they want to? Heck, I've conquered a continent you won't find on any map, and have colonized another. Its a game, do as you will.


There must be ownership otherwise it'll become an even bigger mess. Your example of Mississippi is so utterly wrong I don't know where to start. People own it in RL earth, Earth II and more earths probably, play with it and RP it as their property and you come in and say its yours? That's a nice way to RP with others as long as the original owners aren't involved. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357601


"I own Mississippi and have populated it entirely with martians".

What can anyone do about it?

Nothing. I repeat - it's a game. If I don't accept that something happens, it doesn't happen as far as I'm concerned. But then again, I really don't care what happens with most folks as I don't interact with them at all, and I have no need to control in any fashion how others play where this play doesn't affect me.



I suggested to him how he can receive ownership and you take it to the extreme again. What does Guffingford has to do with this? This "discussion" is terminated.

Pbbbbbbttttthhhhhhh!

He has ownership of Malta because he wants it. If someone else has something to say about it, they can come to an understanding or he can tell them to "eat my shorts" and move on.

My comment has to do with your apparent need to assign and state who owns what - which is impossible. Even the mods have stated conclusively there is no way anyone can tell anyone else how to play or what to play, or limit, or intervene, without consent (this excludes the mods, who have power of attorney from the owner, and this is ultimately his sandbox, his rules).

My, you're spiky. Heres an idea. Stop trying to control NS and who owns what - you can't. And if you don't like what I say, don't read my posts.

Good Day to you.
RomeW
08-10-2004, 08:38
I'm with Vastiva on this. The whole point of NationStates is to create a nation from scratch entirely from your creative vision, meaning that if someone wanted to create, say, a Germany-based nation they're allowed to regardless of the fact that someone else may also have a Germany-based nation. The game isn't bound to any map, so why should we if we don't want to? The only reason why I could ever see the game requiring a map is during a war, because the combatants need to see where each other is, but even then it's not absolutely crucial if the combatants are good and fair RPers.

Besides, if we wanted to get technical, I should say that, because my nation's called RomeW and because I'm really the only "Rome" which posts I should get Rome. However, I don't believe in being a thorn in anyone's side if they want to have a Rome-based nation themselves because NS allows the freedom for people to create several Romes, and who am I to stop it?