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((OOC: I am working with very limited informational resources here, so bear with me. I slapped this together for now so that I do not forget the concept later. Any suggestions are appreciated, so long as the basic idea remains unaltered. Take this as a first draft.))

GI-1 'gargantuan' APC

Height: 50 Ft

Width: 42 Ft

Length: 180 Ft

Armor: Similar to the M1 Abrams main battle tank, the GI-1 utilizes a double layer of steel encased depleted uranium armor. Crew compartments, fuel, weapons, and ammunition storage compartments, and personnel transport compartments are separated by armored bulkheads.

Armament: 16 G-101 Heavy Machine Guns, 6 Mini-Guns, 1 reduced SAM missile launcher

Crew: 42 (26 gunners, 10 engineers, 6 pilots)

Passenger capacity: 250

Background:

After the devastation of the three Alberian wars, the Imperial military command realized the utter ineffectiveness of the standard Armored cavalry unit due to the nature of Generian Geography. The arctic steppes of the north, and the cold deserts in the west proved devastating to standard equipment, and the open nature of these plains made large armored columns easy targets. The creation of the GI-1 is intended to reduce size of armored columns, and provide a secure, intimidating, and utterly devastating method of transporting front line soldiers to hot spots within and outside of Generian borders. The GI-1 is also expected to prove a viable alternative to rail, especially in the steppe plains of the north.

The gargantuan size of the vehicle (similar in size to a civilian ore transport) allows for storage of additional ammunition, fuel, and weapons along with a vast quantity of soldiers. Intimidation was also a major factor in designing this vehicle. Seeing an armored box dwarfing a house is quite a frightening sight, especially if said armored box wishes to kill you.

The GI-1 is equipped with a modified 2600 horsepower gas turbine engine coupled to an Allison hydrokenetic transmission. The speed of the vehicle is approximately 25 miles per hour, but it is capable of reaching 35 miles per hour at the risk of damaging the powerplant. Plans for a nuclear powerplant are being discussed, but nothing has yet been confirmed. The vehicle runs on four separated, enlarged tank treads, two on either side of the machine.

The GI-1 is currently awaiting battle testing, but Imperial military command is highly optimistic.

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Fantastic

My suggestion: You can never have too many guns

Big is better. If the GI-1 ever becomes available for export, New Kyoto wishes to know as soon as possible.

hhmmm it would be a big fat target but it coudl also be quite interesting, it would die very quickly on a "normal" battle feild but in certain situations

as a for a pic, try looking for images of the land trains from the Amtrak wars books by patrick tilly

Big is better. If the GI-1 ever becomes available for export, New Kyoto wishes to know as soon as possible.

Not really. Just means a bigger, easier target

OOC : A mamoth target, oww yay, and it would be slow, but good job with your originality. :) Also why do you need such a big one? A smaller one could probably be better.

OOC : A mamoth target, oww yay, and it would be slow, but good job with your originality. :) Also why do you need such a big one? A smaller one could probably be better.

((OOC: It was a really crazy idea I had. I like it, so I'm going to keep using them. They're mainly a replacement to rail, and a way to adapt to different terrain types as opposed to a front line fighting vehicle. Also, they're usually used in coordination with heavy air support. I get tired of the conventional equipment.))

How much does this puppy weigh? and is it wheeled or tracked?

anyway it goes it is just a really big target.

anyway it goes it is just a really big target.

Bah!

When I read that I laughed.

How much does this puppy weigh? and is it wheeled or tracked?


well?

This also is a BIG TARGET O`NOTHING alert!

:fluffle: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:

How much does this puppy weigh? and is it wheeled or tracked?

anyway it goes it is just a really big target.

To tell you the truth, I really could not say about the weight. I suppose it ways slightly more than one of those civilian ore haulers (really big dump trucks). It has tracks. Remember, this is basically a first draft. If you can't suggest anything useful, then don't bother.

You want something useful eh? I'll try and be as nice as I can.

First off this is is way impractical. It is waiting for a missle up the @$$. The purpose of all these small transports is to provide the smallest possible surface area to the enemy. They also would crush pavement and sink in any terran if it has tracks and weighs that much.

You want something useful eh? I'll try and be as nice as I can.

First off this is is way impractical. It is waiting for a missle up the @$$. The purpose of all these small transports is to provide the smallest possible surface area to the enemy. They also would crush pavement and sink in any terran if it has tracks and weighs that much.

Oh well. I still get points for creativity. I'll work on it, but I'm so damn sick of all this regular equipment I get stuck with.

Perhaps you could revision it as an APC to accompany a Shiva gun... (monster gun platform from the polsteen wars saga)

Like i said. you can never have too many guns. THe more the easier youll be able to defend from the GI-1 itself.

This is kinda useless. 50ft high? It's higher than wide. Not only is it a pitifully easy target but most shots will knock the thing over even if they dont kill it. Nice idea but sorry it doesnt work.

This is kinda useless. 50ft high? It's higher than wide. Not only is it a pitifully easy target but most shots will knock the thing over even if they dont kill it. Nice idea but sorry it doesnt work.

Actually, the dimensions in no way reduce functionality. It is perfectly stable. Again, see civilian ore haulers. They have much the same construction. Just for that, I will keep using it.

Its awesome, but (i think you can tell something i like by now) like i said, moe guns.

Actually, the dimensions in no way reduce functionality. It is perfectly stable. Again, see civilian ore haulers. They have much the same construction. Just for that, I will keep using it.
Sorry but 1337 guy is right. This is a horribly huge target that will be ripped to shreds by practically anything. The ground pressure on the thing will be huge and it'll look like some like of messed up WWI box tank. Sorry but modern combat vehicles have to be small.

Sorry but 1337 guy is right. This is a horribly huge target that will be ripped to shreds by practically anything. The ground pressure on the thing will be huge and it'll look like some like of messed up WWI box tank. Sorry but modern combat vehicles have to be small.

I repeat myself: Bah!

You could put some like rammer on the front like on my tank. That way if trees are too big it can root them up and push em to the side creating a path for vehicles and soldiers to follow.

Actually, the dimensions in no way reduce functionality. It is perfectly stable. Again, see civilian ore haulers. They have much the same construction. Just for that, I will keep using it.


ERROR: Civilian Ore haulers dont have tanks and RPGs firing at them. And the reason you get stuck with regular equipment; IT WORKS THE BEST!

ERROR: Civilian Ore haulers dont have tanks and RPGs firing at them. And the reason you get stuck with regular equipment; IT WORKS THE BEST!

This is not a front line fighting vehicle. If you read the whole thing, you would understand that it is mainly designed to replace trains as troop transports in the barren northern steppe. Once again: Bah! From this point onwards, any posts relating to flaws in design are hereby outlawed. I'm getting sick of it.

Guys its for suggestions to improve it. If you see a flaw suggest something to improve it. Rpgs and tanks might be firing at it, thats why u should have air and land support, if u dont enocunter huge patches of mud or enemies u should be fine.

My suggestion to improve it is to reduce it's height. The height is a problem for various reasons:

1) It makes the vehicle less stable. Im not saying that it will sway in the wind, but if it gets hit by an explosive force on the top bad things will happen that wouldnt happen to a 'squatter' vehicle.

2) You can really armour it very well. The large dimensions make armour expensive and very heavy.

3) This weight leads to high ground pressure as well as overall high weight. This means it will crush bridges, sink into mud etc. in the ay that a vehicle of the same weight but lower ground pressure wouldnt.

That's my suggestion, feel free to ignore it.

My suggestion to improve it is to reduce it's height. The height is a problem for various reasons:

1) It makes the vehicle less stable. Im not saying that it will sway in the wind, but if it gets hit by an explosive force on the top bad things will happen that wouldnt happen to a 'squatter' vehicle.

2) You can really armour it very well. The large dimensions make armour expensive and very heavy.

3) This weight leads to high ground pressure as well as overall high weight. This means it will crush bridges, sink into mud etc. in the ay that a vehicle of the same weight but lower ground pressure wouldnt.

That's my suggestion, feel free to ignore it.

Finally, a useful suggestion. Thanks much. For all you other idiots who don't understand the art of suggestion, here is a perfect example.

You want constructive conversation huh? (BTW: LOL on you "bah"s that will get youo nowhere)


I understand your argument but this thing is just way too big. You must also take into account airstrikes and special ops. See, the main reason for the long and drawn out is that it reduces the chances of being seen and also lowers the cost of life and money if attacked. It is also easier to make a bunch of small vehicals than one big one. I also suggest making it shorter. It would be hard getting these thing under bridges, if it doesnt collapse them first :D I would never go down this road would I nor advise it, but if this is what you want then go for it.

Might I also suggest that you make it longer along with being shorter, it will add more surface area and distribute more weight and you will still keep the cargo room.

Yeah, instead of making it so high you might cut off the top half and put it in the back so it's longer.

You could built it more like the Czecho's "Titan". The Titan is much shorter and not as long. It's got a stronger engine to increase the speed too. But as other have said, it's big. The Titan is big too. Both are just giant targets with big guns. Perhaps you could advertise them as home defense turrets or something. Park them at your borders and have them shoot at the oncoming army or something. Or instead, they could transport troops and sit on the outside of a city and blast it to pieces to get the infantry or the rest of the army started.

Or maybe these things are just big wastes of money?

All together, yeah. They only have a few useful uses, each of which can be done by some other type of vehicle.

Have you checked out the FA-22K Tanks?