NationStates Jolt Archive


Attack on Swedish Dominions

The Islamic Liberation
18-08-2004, 02:43
Ibrahim Al-Hamoud looked into the starry sky above, a mess of bright lights smeared against the blackness of the heavens; it was a glory of Allah's creation. He stood on the rolling deck of what looked like a civilian cruise liner, swaying back and forth upon the unforgiving waves. The ship, as innocent as it looked, was not a pleasure boat. Under what looked like a pool was a silo carrying a single SCUD filled with the smallpox virus. Ibrahim walked inside the bridge and turned to face the captain, saying, "How far from the coast are we?" The captain respoded, "Just outside their territorial waters, we must launch now!!!". Ibrahim nodded and walked over to the control panel at the back of the room. He placed a key into the designated slot, draining the pool of it's water and moving the SCUD up to launch position. With that he opened the plastic case covering the launch button and pressed it, sending the SCUD into the air. The missile roared through the air towards the capital of Swedish Dominions.
The Islamic Liberation
18-08-2004, 03:08
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Hadula
18-08-2004, 03:14
OOC: Curious, CM, why did you save SD?
The Islamic Liberation
18-08-2004, 03:17
OOC: Destroying the missile would still release the virus, and from 30 miles off shore that release would still cost thousands of lives. Besides, Swedish Dominions is a shared enemy of ours. I'm doing you a favor.
Communist Mississippi
18-08-2004, 03:20
OOC: Destroying the missile would still release the virus, and from 30 miles off shore that release would still cost thousands of lives. Besides, Swedish Dominions is a shared enemy of ours. I'm doing you a favor.


Okay, point taken.
The Islamic Liberation
18-08-2004, 03:29
Okay, point taken.
Thank you.
The Islamic Liberation
18-08-2004, 04:10
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Vestern States
18-08-2004, 08:28
i STRONGLY advise you to step down because i have troops in SD.
If ANY om my soldier is killed by your missiles.
I WILL strike back!
And since you have used Biological weapons i don`t see myself forbidden to use my arsenal of chemical oc biological weapons...
Dimmimar
18-08-2004, 09:10
OOC:
Actually:

A biological explosion 30 miles from the shore would not harm SD too much.

As smallpox is an airborne virus, it would depend on the weather conditions and the way the wind was blowing.

SD could have inoculated his people before even a strain of the virus reaches shore.

You are way too young to fund, keep or even purchase biological weapons :rolleyes:
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Try reasearching a virus before you use it :rolleyes:. It helps to find out about rping as well.....
Communist Mississippi
18-08-2004, 09:12
OOC:
Actually:

A biological explosion 30 miles from the shore would not harm SD too much.

As smallpox is an airborne virus, it would depend on the weather conditions and the way the wind was blowing.

SD could have inoculated his people before even a strain of the virus reaches shore.

You are way too young to fund, keep or even purchase biological weapons :rolleyes:
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Try reasearching a virus before you use it :rolleyes:. It helps to find out about rping as well.....


Ooc: I agree. I'd also agree you need to do a few replies in IG Virus RP. :D
Chellis
18-08-2004, 09:13
He could have bought it.

In fact, if he didnt, Im willing to say he bought it from me. I would certainly sell such a thing.
Vestern States
18-08-2004, 09:26
Transmission to The Islamic Liberation
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Your attack on SD has mede us very worried about our own security.
Therefore we have upgraded the alertnesslevel to RED.
That means, that any agressive movements will be answered, be sure on that
Should any more missiles be launched you won`t have any left after that.

WE STRONGLY ADVISE YOU TO STPE DOWN!
Commorargh
18-08-2004, 09:27
Anyway, this is freeform and if SD accepts it then that's fine.
Chellis
18-08-2004, 09:29
Chellis is willing to begin the sale of S-300's to TIL, and train its men, so they can be well protected from air attacks. We will also sell special Helicopter AWACS platforms, so that it can detect attacks from range. If TIL uses extensive Cell Phone towers, we can also configure the S-300's radar for detection through cell phone radiation.
Greenmanbry
18-08-2004, 10:07
OOC: Actually I found his RPing very believeable for someone as new as him.. good job TIL.

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IC: GMB Satellites have not yet detected the launch of the missile, but we are an ally of Swedish Dominions, and will support him in any retaliatory action that he takes (with the exception of an all-out nuclear/WMD war).
The Islamic Liberation
19-08-2004, 01:31
OOC: Actually I found his RPing very believeable for someone as new as him.. good job TIL.

OOC:Thank you, I spent quite a bit of time observing other RPs and reading the threads about how to stage a terror attack and about avoiding godmoding. Good to see it paid off. Now, about the WMDs: I'm a nation of 200 million. Thats enough to own 400 nuclear warheads, right?

Secret IC:
Chellis, any aid for the cause of TIL would be greatly appreciated.
Sevaris
19-08-2004, 01:33
Chellis, why support Islamic extremism? It's hazardous to our way of life.
Chellis
19-08-2004, 01:35
Chellis, why support Islamic extremism? It's hazardous to our way of life.

Chellis is an atheistic state.
Sevaris
19-08-2004, 01:36
Still, it's hazardous to you. They want to kill anyone who does not believe in their brand of Islam- even atheists.
The Islamic Liberation
19-08-2004, 01:37
Still, it's hazardous to you. They want to kill anyone who does not believe in their brand of Islam- even atheists.

OOC: As long as they provide assistance we have no quarrel with them.
Greenmanbry
19-08-2004, 11:13
Secret IC:
Chellis, any aid for the cause of TIL would be greatly appreciated.

Secret IC: What is your global cause anyway?.. I mean, if you get out of this scenario unscathed, what are your plans? World domination?
DontPissUsOff
19-08-2004, 11:23
Attack on the Swedish Dominions obliges us to act in their protection as per our commitment in the BiA.

We're coming for you.
Chellis
19-08-2004, 20:58
Secret IC: What is your global cause anyway?.. I mean, if you get out of this scenario unscathed, what are your plans? World domination?

Sec. IC: Yes, but in the quite long run... But really, what we are doing is chellian standard operation procedure. Its quite similar to what america's origional plan was for ww2. If I may quote Harry truman... " "Let's help the Russians when the Germans are winning and the Germans when the Russians are winning. ..." Its only a partial quote, but you get the idea.
The Islamic Liberation
19-08-2004, 21:01
Secret IC: What is your global cause anyway?.. I mean, if you get out of this scenario unscathed, what are your plans? World domination?

Secret IC: We wish to liberate the Islamic peoples from Western corruption and Imperialism. Swedish Dominions is against freedom fighters and thus an enemy of the Islamic Liberation!
Chellis
19-08-2004, 21:08
Secret IC: We wish to liberate the Islamic peoples from Western corruption and Imperialism. Swedish Dominions is against freedom fighters and thus an enemy of the Islamic Liberation!

OOC: Whoops, thought green's message was meant toward me :P
The Islamic Liberation
20-08-2004, 20:00
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The Islamic Liberation
21-08-2004, 04:53
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Euroslavia
21-08-2004, 05:16
OOC: I see somebody's been reading my Guide To Terrorism, hehe.
The Islamic Liberation
22-08-2004, 00:51
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The Islamic Liberation
23-08-2004, 22:41
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Swedish Dominions
23-08-2004, 22:50
The SofD ran to the President.

- Sir, we are under attack. A SCUD is incoming
- Holy shit.
- It's gonna hit here in 3 min.

The President ran down to the Nuclear Bomb Shelter.
He arrived in the last second.
The Presidential Palace was no more.

The 70 employees died.

We tracked the SCUD, and it was fired right outside our territorial waters.
The President got angry.
- how could this happen? We are on DefCon 4 for gods sake. Send the 1st fleet there and kill the asshole.
-Yes sir.

24 Destroyers headed towards the estimated launch point.
They spotted a lonely ship.
They didn't hasitate, they opened fire.
Xeraph
23-08-2004, 22:53
From: Gen Strickland, CMDR Xeraphian Forces

It has come to the attention of the King that there may be some trouble in the Swedish Dominions.

As there are 2 Royal Navy CBG's in their waters, he would find it more than somewhat disturbing if any harm came to them, especially from an Islamic nation (and one so young as to actually have doubt cast as to whether it could afford such a weapon).

If there is an attack on SD, we will retaliate immediately and destroy any enemy vessels, then move on to destroy the aggressor nation.

We give but one warning.
Swedish Dominions
23-08-2004, 22:53
- Sir, we have detected massive chemical ratings.
- A chemical attack?
-Yes sir.
- DAMIT!!!
- We are safe here but the civilians aren't safe. This is more serious than i thought.
- Sir, the communication line has been broken and we are stuck here.
- damn.
Xeraph
23-08-2004, 22:59
From: Gen Strickland, CMDR XF Forces
To: the Islamic Liberation

You were warned. The 12th and 67th CBG's in the waters off SD have turned toward your nation. These Battle Groups are armed with nuclear missiles.

In addition, our silos have gone to full alert, and are setting coordinates for your soon-to-be-non-existent-nation. ICBM's are locked onto your major cities.

In the tradition of true warriors, not cowardly terrorists, we give you a chance to ask forgiveness of the nation attacked before you are destroyed.

You have approx 1 hour.
The Islamic Liberation
23-08-2004, 23:04
Ha, we have no nation! We are terror cells based in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, in Damascus, and Cairo. (OOC: Our central base of operations is in Amman.) We have terror cells in every nation, even yours.
Swedish Dominions
23-08-2004, 23:07
OOC: Me ---> :headbang: :confused: <---- Terrorists claiming to have cells in every nation

IC:

The Suprise attack on the SD capital has been turned into a grand massacre. 1686 is dead because of the unknown chemical agent. The President is still stuck in the Nuke Bunker...

2nd OOC:
I can nuke Mecca..... then you'll die...
Xeraph
23-08-2004, 23:11
OOC> #1... Ha yourself....if you are a registered player of NS, then you have a physical nation. Game rules therefore apply to you.

#2...There are no Islamic terror cells in Xeraph. We have banned all Arabs, as well as any and all Islamic adherents from the Xeraphian territories.

#3...If you do have a physical nation, you cannot play the game.

So your choice is to either admit that you do not exist, or be destroyed.
The Islamic Liberation
24-08-2004, 03:12
OOC: Our nation is like al-Qaeda, we are scattered about in other nations. However, we do run our operations from three places:

Mecca, Medina, and surrounding areas

Amman

Damascus

If you want to consider us to have a nation in those places.
Chellis
24-08-2004, 08:43
OOC> #1... Ha yourself....if you are a registered player of NS, then you have a physical nation. Game rules therefore apply to you.

#2...There are no Islamic terror cells in Xeraph. We have banned all Arabs, as well as any and all Islamic adherents from the Xeraphian territories.

#3...If you do have a physical nation, you cannot play the game.

So your choice is to either admit that you do not exist, or be destroyed.

OOC: You arent the god of NS.

He doesnt have to have a physical nation. Its assumed, but so is being a modern tech nation. You dont go telling future-tech nations that they arent allowed to exist, do you?

Also, if TIL wants to agree, Im willing to say there is a large terrorist training camp in southern Chellis(And dont try to detect it, my nation is pretty much under a shroud of darkness.
Greenmanbry
24-08-2004, 11:34
OOC: Our nation is like al-Qaeda, we are scattered about in other nations. However, we do run our operations from three places:

Mecca, Medina, and surrounding areas

Amman

Damascus

If you want to consider us to have a nation in those places.

He can't.. If he does, he'd be nuking several nations, like Ottoman Khaif and United Elias who control these areas..

And if he does decide to attack Mecca/Medina/Damascus/Amman with nuclear weapons, as allies of Ottoman Khaif we will respond with a similar attack.

Oh, and we don't like terrorism, but our country is a huge desert.. so if you want to assume you have a base in the Sudan or Chad.. go ahead..
Vestern States
24-08-2004, 12:26
Your attack on SD has made us very upset.
therefore, i have ordered our Strategic Bomber Vommand to Defcon4.
On my word they will start an assault towards the city of Amman.
If you care about the people there, you will step down or face the destruction of Amman. We are not afraid of destroying you even if it means collateral damages.
We are holding the city as hostage.
Our Missile Defence System is at high alert and spy sattelites are looking for any launch

Oh, by the way. The population of Vestern States has been issued protective gear against (N)BC weapons.

It`s you call if you want to have Amman removed from the map

In the meantime, 6th, 9th 3rd and the 4th battlegroups has been sent to the Mediterrenian sea.
Xeraph
24-08-2004, 12:38
OOC: You arent the god of NS.

He doesnt have to have a physical nation. Its assumed, but so is being a modern tech nation. You dont go telling future-tech nations that they arent allowed to exist, do you?

Also, if TIL wants to agree, Im willing to say there is a large terrorist training camp in southern Chellis(And dont try to detect it, my nation is pretty much under a shroud of darkness.

I stand (somewhat) corrected. It would seem to me that, like the rest of us who created a nation, that that nation has an actual territory. Be that as it may, I see here that I won't have any support in this line of thought, so I will withdraw my support of Swedish Dominions, even though I have been a supporter for some time now.

Why? Because if the nation attacking an ally is permitted to have nothing more than bases in existing nations, they will never be able to be stopped. It is only common sense that a created, registered nation has a physical presence, one that can be not only attacked, but one that can have alliances.

I cannot support an attacked nation if I have nothing to attack in it's support.
And, as Greenmabry pointed out, that these terrorists have bases in existing nations, that I would have to attack these nations in addition to the terrorist themselves. This I am obviously not willing to do.

All I will say is that if this, or any other Islamic/terrorist group, hiding behind the skirts of a parent nation ever attacks Xeraph or it's military, I WILL attack not only the bases where they are hiding, but the nations they are in as well.

If you harbor terrorists, you are no better than they are.

I hereby put out a call to all nations who are sick and tired of dealing with these "nations" who claim they are not a nation. Either they have a physical presence in NS, or they don't. We need to straighten this out once and for all. Many nations sovreignty is at stake.

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar

.......and, BTW, not the god of NS............
Beta Aurigae VII
24-08-2004, 16:15
OOC: i agree with Xeraph on this one, if you created a nation than it has to be there (what terrorist group do you know has a membership of over 200 million people?). however, if everyone here is willing to accept that your nation is not really a nation but a bunch of cells all over the place, than you need to find a better example than al-Qaeda. Even though al-Qaeda was a bunch of cells, they had control of an actual nation at the time, Afghanistan. So they are a bad example. A better example would be one of the Irish terrorist groups, except that you are Islamic and for a different cause. so since you are one of those organizations instead of a State Sponsored Group then it is impossible for you to own any type of biological weapons because terrorist groups that are not directly sponsored by a nation a very poorly funded and could not afford such advanced weapons. so you either have to accept that you are a real nation with cells in all these places so you have some source of funding for these type of weapons or you delete the thread and RP another thread where you stole advanced weapons from someone so you can actually do the stuff you say you can. it's as simple as that, no backing from another nation no expensive weapons. you could do with reading Euroslavia's Terrorism Guide a bit better. BTW i am not a state sponsored terrorist organization.
Vestern States
24-08-2004, 16:54
Since our demands haven`t been affected by the TIL, six TU-160 Blackjacks started towards Amman. When they came within range, a salvo af KENT cruise missiles were launched over the city.

The missiles detonated a few click`s outside the city.
It was only a Force Projection operation, showint TIL that we are able to strike agains his cities and that we don`t fear it.

THIS WAS THE FINAL WARNING TIL. If you don`t step down, it`s the city of Amman that will suffer, can you take that?
Chellis
24-08-2004, 19:44
Chellis demands that Vestern States moves out of the pacific, and does not attack Amman. If you do attack, we will send out land based aircraft from libya, and our naval groups in the mediterranean, to sink your ships, and war will be declared on you.
Vestern States
24-08-2004, 20:48
Chellis demands that Vestern States moves out of the pacific, and does not attack Amman. If you do attack, we will send out land based aircraft from libya, and our naval groups in the mediterranean, to sink your ships, and war will be declared on you.

It seems as you have missed the goal with this operation is to force TIL to end it`s actions of terror agains innocent states and since Amman is a TIL Base of Operations, we find it as a good tactic to force TIL to an end.

I will withdraw the 3rd and the 4th battle groups from the MED but will remain in the area should TIL make another try to attack.
In secret i replaced them with submarines and additional land-based figthers

Our only interesst in this matter is to force TIL to it`s knees and we don`t fell like treating neither the TIL, nor any nation that hides them in an "good" way
So please stay out of this matter or other nations can see it as you are supporting terror
Chellis
24-08-2004, 23:26
It seems as you have missed the goal with this operation is to force TIL to end it`s actions of terror agains innocent states and since Amman is a TIL Base of Operations, we find it as a good tactic to force TIL to an end.

I will withdraw the 3rd and the 4th battle groups from the MED but will remain in the area should TIL make another try to attack.
In secret i replaced them with submarines and additional land-based figthers

Our only interesst in this matter is to force TIL to it`s knees and we don`t fell like treating neither the TIL, nor any nation that hides them in an "good" way
So please stay out of this matter or other nations can see it as you are supporting terror

You show no restraint for collateral damage, you arent afraid to bomb innocent civilians. You have no moral high-ground against TIL.

If you bomb cities like that, chellis will declare war against you. Do not test us. How do you even know there is a large concentration of TIL forces in that city? Or that TIL has been making terrorist attacks? We see you as a little boy with his hand over a red button, unable to control himself from pressing it, even if it means certain doom for his people, and him.

OOC: Where exactly are you placing land-based aircraft?
The Islamic Liberation
25-08-2004, 00:29
Also, if TIL wants to agree, Im willing to say there is a large terrorist training camp in southern Chellis(And dont try to detect it, my nation is pretty much under a shroud of darkness.

OOC:That would be wonderful, if you are willing to do that, we will be willing to attack your enemies.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 00:31
OOC:That would be wonderful, if you are willing to do that, we will be willing to attack your enemies.

OOC: You attack religious targets, thats reason enough for me to support you. We may have different reasons why, but we are both against the religions you attack.
Vestern States
25-08-2004, 07:44
You show no restraint for collateral damage, you arent afraid to bomb innocent civilians. You have no moral high-ground against TIL.

If you bomb cities like that, chellis will declare war against you. Do not test us. How do you even know there is a large concentration of TIL forces in that city? Or that TIL has been making terrorist attacks? We see you as a little boy with his hand over a red button, unable to control himself from pressing it, even if it means certain doom for his people, and him.

OOC: Where exactly are you placing land-based aircraft?

Against other enemies i have moral, but not against people who kills thousands of young kids just for fun(even if it`s in the religions name)

Also, we have plenty of evidence that TIL have camps around Amman
And about the figthers, just forget it i was tired when i whrote that.

I withdrew two carriergroups from the area but you don`t seem to be pleased.
And any attack will be conciderd ay if you are supporting TIL
Secretly moving another Nuclear submarine to the AO
Greenmanbry
25-08-2004, 14:23
Vestern States

If you proceed with your attack, you would be declaring war on Ottoman Khaif, a very close ally of mine, and of other nations..

Therefore, we will declare war on you.. We will proceed to destroy your nation if you attack one of our allies.. Heed this warning.
Vestern States
25-08-2004, 14:59
Vestern States

If you proceed with your attack, you would be declaring war on Ottoman Khaif, a very close ally of mine, and of other nations..

Therefore, we will declare war on you.. We will proceed to destroy your nation if you attack one of our allies.. Heed this warning.

I take all warnings for real, but if i would leave hte area, how can i be sure that TIL NOT will start attacking civilian targets with (N)BC waepons again?

The only reason to my precense in the area is that Amman is a key location for TIL.
If Ottoman Khaif could deal with TIL i will withdraw, untill then i will keep my forces in tre region, althoug i will lower the alertness to "Peacekeeping"
Meaning that i will only engage in there is an attack and TIL is responible for it.
Only then will i attack and then only confirmed TIL tagets.
But i will remain in the area, but with lower alertness
Nireva
25-08-2004, 15:46
Thanks to SD, we have some weapons what we wouldn't have without them.

So, republic of Nireva will help defending SD, but will not strike back.

2 Nimitz class aircraft carriers +escort are preparing to leave from Port Reborn to SD.
And 6 B-1B Lancers are ready to make bombardment. If attackers make an fortress into your soil.

SD, if you need help, ask for it.
Greenmanbry
25-08-2004, 15:49
If Ottoman Khaif does verify the existence of terrorist cells in Amman, Mecca, Medina, or any other city, he will deal with such cells with the most brutal of force..

But you have no right.. I repeat.. no right to violate OK sovereignity.. If you want to help, help SD..
Vestern States
25-08-2004, 16:21
If Ottoman Khaif does verify the existence of terrorist cells in Amman, Mecca, Medina, or any other city, he will deal with such cells with the most brutal of force..

But you have no right.. I repeat.. no right to violate OK sovereignity.. If you want to help, help SD..

Since TIL declared war upon SD i consider it as help to both SD and the rest of the world by having an eye on them.
It`s not my intent to attack OK as a nation, my intent is only ti figth the TIL.

I`m withdrawing the subs and move the 9th battlegroup into the Atlantic Ocean
Beta Aurigae VII
25-08-2004, 16:57
OOC: don't you people realize that TIL could not own (N)BC weapons. since they are not a State Sponsored Terrorist Group, because they have no nation, they do not, i repeat do not have the funds for these expensive weapons.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 20:34
Since TIL declared war upon SD i consider it as help to both SD and the rest of the world by having an eye on them.
It`s not my intent to attack OK as a nation, my intent is only ti figth the TIL.

I`m withdrawing the subs and move the 9th battlegroup into the Atlantic Ocean

IC: What subs?

OOC: Beta, he gets funding. You just dont know from where.
Beta Aurigae VII
25-08-2004, 23:03
OOC: well that's pretty damn stupid then. as a matter of fact most terrorists are stupid idiots, so i don't even know why im posting. if i was SD i'd fire the ignore cannon on TIL, because this seem s about as unfair as it gets.
The Islamic Liberation
30-08-2004, 00:06
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Greenmanbry
30-08-2004, 16:53
OOC - Why is it unfair?.. Actually, it's a very plausible situation. Let's just hypothetically assume that I provide TIL's funding (I do not), my funding could provide the foundation they require to launch such an easily coordinated, yet bold attack.

Also TIL, if you declare that you have terrorist 'cells' in a nation, that doesn't automatically mean it's true.. You should at least consult the host nation (even if the host nation is unaware of the existence of such cells), in this case OK, and receive his permission to operate a clandestine 'cell' from Amman.

Wait, I believe Jordan has not been claimed by anyone yet.. You can RP deposing of the monarchy and claiming it your own.. would be a very interesting RP.. (But prepare your defenses, because you'd be wiped off the Earth in an instant.. I suggest you don't.. just continue with your current tactics).