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Invictus class Battleship
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As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.
~ John Stuart Mill



Designed to provide affordable, sustainable and devestating firepower while filling the rift between Aircraft carriers and Arsenal ships, the Invictus is now a major component within the Marina Militare. Its sensitive sensor suite is extensive in providing C4I capabilities.

The ship is designed with a rare quadruple gun turret design, saving space and providing overwhelming firepower. Both the Main and Secondary guns can fire Guided Munitions, Sub-calibre SCRAMjet rounds, and traditional munitions alike. 100 multipurpose universal Vertical Launch Systems allow the Invictus to fire a large variety of missiles, including Aster-15/Aster-30 Surface to Air Missiles (SAM), Fenice sea-skimming Anti-Ship Missiles (ASM), and Tomahawk Tactical Cruise Missiles (TCM).

To defend the Battleship against enemy submarines the Invictus is provided with a high tech sonar system as well as Advanced Long Range Anti-Submarine Rockets (AL-ASROC).


Dimensions

Length(O/A): 1025'
Length(W/L): 990'
Beam: 121' 2"
Draft(max): 40' 5"
Draft(mean): 36'
Draft(design): N/A


Displacement

Maximum: 85,500 tons
Full Load: 80,965 tons
Design: 70,500 tons


Propulsion

Nuclear Reactors: 2 Bordo Principale 3W pressurized-water
Turbines: 4 AE geared steam
Horsepower: 290,000 shp
Shafts: 4
Propellers: 4
21' across
Endurance: 800,000 -1,000,000 miles
15 years
Max Speed: 32+ knts


Protection

Side Belt: 16.1" tapering to 10.2" on 1" STS plate inclined 19 degrees
Lower Side Belt: 7.2" tapered to 1" inclined 10 degrees
Bulkheads: 18" forward
15.25" aft
Deck Main: 0.75"+1.5"
2nd: 5.8"+1.25"
3rd: 0.62" to 0.625"
splinter: 0.625"
total: 10.454"
Barbettes: 21.3"
18" rear
Turrets: face 18"+4.5"
sides 10"
back 12"
roof 9.15"
Conning Tower: 18" sides
7.25" roof
Immunity: 18,000 yards to 32,000 yards vs 16"/50 2,700 lb shells
16,500 yards to 34,500 yards vs 16"/45 2,245 lb shells


Armament

Main Battery: 16 x 16"/50 cal (Mk 7) in four quadruple turrets
2 forward 2 aft
Secondary: 18 x 5"/54 cal (Mk 16) in six triple turrets
3 port 3 starboard
AAW: 40 x 40mm/56 cal Bofors in 10 quad gun mounts
4 x Phalanx CIWS
Additional
Small Targets/AAW: 56 x 20mm/70 cal Oerlikons
ASW: 48 x ALR-ASROC
ASM/SAM/TCM: 100 VLS, Universal


Complement

Design: 115 officers
2,240 enlisted
As Flagship: 189 officers
2,789 enlisted


Combat Systems

BPT Multi-Function Radar (MFR)
A-35 Volume Search Radar (VSR)
NC41 Naval Surface Fire Support Weapon Control System (NWCS)

AN/SQS-56 Sonar
AN/SQR-19 Towed Array Sonar System
AN/SQQ-89 ASW Integration System

AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deception
AN/WLR-1H ESM



Countermeasures

Decoys: 4 Loral Hycor Mk.137 SRBOC 6-barreled chaff launchers
SSTDS
SLQ-36 Nixie (phase 1) towed torpedo decoy
ECM/ESM: SLQ-32(V)4 EW system
WRL-1H warning, intercept



Aircraft

Helicopters Platform and facilities to rearm and refuel LAMPS III SH-60B/F
2 SH-60B/F
2 place hanger


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Questions? Comments?

OOC: Hm! While I've never been a big fan of the 3d modeling thing, and won't try to comment on the aesthetics, I must say that this looks a fair bit more reasonable, practical, and better researched than a lot of the battleships stomping around the modern NS world. Good show! I suppose it could probably face down a Godfrey or a Glamorgan without (any fear of serious oppositon) too much trouble, heh.
I wonder (really!), how effective are the 20mm and 40mm guns in a modern environment? Maybe WoS shouldn't be worrying too much about the state of its ships' AA defences. I mean, if we accept that WoS has no idea what a surface to air missile is :)

OOC: Hm! While I've never been a big fan of the 3d modeling thing, and won't try to comment on the aesthetics, I must say that this looks a fair bit more reasonable, practical, and better researched than a lot of the battleships stomping around the modern NS world. Good show! I suppose it could probably face down a Godfrey or a Glamorgan without (any fear of serious oppositon) too much trouble, heh.
I wonder (really!), how effective are the 20mm and 40mm guns in a modern environment? Maybe WoS shouldn't be worrying too much about the state of its ships' AA defences. I mean, if we accept that WoS has no idea what a surface to air missile is :)

ooc: First of all, it is great to see you, :]. Second of all, the majority of the air defense is provided by SAMs and escort ships. The 20mm CIWS and 40mm are there for show as much as for contingency. They can hit some missiles pretty well, and enemy aircraft that stray too close. They are the last ditch defense, if all else fails.

The 20 mm Oerlikon's arent exclusive to AAW, they are also utilized against small craft.

[Read Honor Harrington much?]

[Read Honor Harrington much?]

ooc: Never even heard of it...why?

[Oh, it's a space opera by David Weber. The Invictus class in the Honorverse is a new Superdreadnaught design that's not quite yet fielded as of the last book, it's supposed to be the biggest and baddest warship to ever see space.]

[Oh, it's a space opera by David Weber. The Invictus class in the Honorverse is a new Superdreadnaught design that's not quite yet fielded as of the last book, it's supposed to be the biggest and baddest warship to ever see space.]

ooc: Hmmm...well Invictus is latin for Invincible, and taking into account naval hubris I assume it is fairly common. And as you already know, this is modern tech.

((I have to admit, when I saw the thread title I thought “oh. Just another RAWR! 65416874 milli0n ton deathbattledreadnought!!!111” (or would that be deathbattledreadnaught? Seeing as how 80+% of NS seems incapable of spelling that last word?)

Then I saw ‘started by Agrigento’ and thought “Ah! Never mind, this link ought to be worth clicking on!” and did so. And was, of course, not disappointed.

My only question pertains to the 16x16”/50 in 4x4 layout. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that effectiveness drops so greatly with the addition of a fourth gun per turret that it’s more often than not not worth spending the extra weight for the additional gun. Again, this is something I only vaguely remember reading ...somewhere, so forgive me if it’s not accurate. :)

Anyhow, looks good! I just hope Erco doesn’t get it in mind to build a few of these suckers - the RIN is still reeling from the loss of the Gurney and the near loss of the Princess Royal. :)))

My only question pertains to the 16x16”/50 in 4x4 layout. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that effectiveness drops so greatly with the addition of a fourth gun per turret that it’s more often than not not worth spending the extra weight for the additional gun. Again, this is something I only vaguely remember reading ...somewhere, so forgive me if it’s not accurate. :)

Anyhow, looks good! I just hope Erco doesn’t get it in mind to build a few of these suckers - the RIN is still reeling from the loss of the Gurney and the near loss of the Princess Royal. :)))

Okay, I was worried about something like that and tried to research it, but couldn't find any verification.


Now I have found something, it is taken from a site on the French Dunkerque Class Battlecruiser:

The main guns were chosen to be 330 mm (13 in), and it was decided to mount them in two quadruple turrets forward of the superstructure. This gave considerable weight saving over a four double turret design by reducing the length that needed armour protection and reducing the total number of turrets. It also had the advantage of allowing the full weight of fire to be used in a chase situation, as it was expected that the pocket battleships would attempt to flee when confronted with such an obviously superior vessel. The potential vulnerability of this arrangement was reduced by having an armoured bulkhead between the two turret halves, and by having separate magazines for each turret half. To address the potential weakness to attacks from astern the superstructure was designed to maximise the arc of fire available to the guns.

Added a description and tweaked some specs.

tag for evaluation and possible future procurement purposes.

tag for evaluation and possible future procurement purposes.

Nice to see you.

Of course there will be a discount for all allies once the ship is available for export.

Mm MM prettyyyy

as usual, my ally AGRIGENTO is up to cutting level sh*T, and i would like to buy some.