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Mars? Joint multi-billion dollar project! Countries welcome!

Nano soft
30-12-2003, 05:19
The Free Corporation of Nano Soft has started a huge mars project that might take about 30-40 years. Maybe more if worst comes to worst.

The project begins by forming the atmosphere of Mars to about the same of earth. So far we believe there is only small parts that have a atmosphere like earth and most areas would be under domes IM guessing. But the president wishes to make the whole planet more like earth.

Almost two million volunteers have come forth to help with the project. Sum of five million bots are being prepared and will be shipped.

While the while the workers are working getting the planet to have a earth like atmosphere engineers will be designing a large city that will be about 50 miles wide and 50 miles long, also after they are done other cities will me designed.

It will have about 200 square miles of international embassy’s that will be allowed. Only about half a square mile will be allowed per nation. If you would like a embassy there you must telegram The Free Corporation of Nano Soft at http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=nano_soft

The Free Corporation of Nano Soft has asked The Great Corporate Homeland of The Resi Corporation for its aid in this project. If all goes well the city will become a Resi/Nano/other joint city.

Also other nations will be allowed to help and will get there share of the city. But Nano Soft will only allow two other nations to help in the project and they must be as old of Nano Soft or older. All other lower countries are out of the question. If you wish to help telegram meat at the link above. But if Resi agrees with the offer we have extended he will have to approve of the other nations who wish to take place in this project.

The president also plans to creat a huge space fleet center there. It will be about 10 square mile by 20 square miles. It will be the HQ of Nano Softs star fleet.

UN Delegate of Corporate Islands the greatest region
President of Nano Soft John Lunny soon to retire
Five Civilized Nations
30-12-2003, 05:22
OOC: You do realize this will have to gain the approval of all the nations on Mars right?
30-12-2003, 05:25
We would really like to help, but we are much younger than you. We will, however, supplie you with any weaponry we sell for a fraction of the regular price.

Best Wishes,
President Wesley Scott

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/133292/9.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109564)
Kwaswhakistan
30-12-2003, 05:28
see telegram for information on KTC assistance.
Nano soft
30-12-2003, 05:32
OOC: You do realize this will have to gain the approval of all the nations on Mars right?
OOC: Not really because there is no officail list of nations on mars. Therefore I don't really need to check but if some one with something on Mars that is against this then let them come forward and speack! Besides why would they be against this? It is a good thing because you wont need those stupid domes any more.
Kwaswhakistan
30-12-2003, 05:39
ahh well anyways KTC is giving 1 billion in cash and if i remember correctly 100,000 mechanical workers.
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 05:40
OOC: Not really because there is no officail list of nations on mars. Therefore I don't really need to check but if some one with something on Mars that is against this then let them come forward and speack! Besides why would they be against this? It is a good thing because you wont need those stupid domes any more.

OOC: Some people don't RP your level of technology, so they would have to ignore you on a technological basis... however it's freeform roleplay and while I tend to agree with 5CN I would say that it's ok for you to do this, so long as you don't try to make other nation from Mars Roleplay it if they don't want to... they will probably have to ignore you. Not out of spite, but our of disagreement.
Wazzu
30-12-2003, 06:04
OOC: The terraforming of Mars is an ongoing, long-term RP. If you do this, and we (Martian nations) accept it, it would destroy that RP.

I for one will accept it only as a failure.

BTW, official Mars information can be found here (www.pacifier.com/~cziller) and the forum here (http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?).
Nano soft
31-12-2003, 03:25
OOC: The terraforming of Mars is an ongoing, long-term RP. If you do this, and we (Martian nations) accept it, it would destroy that RP.

I for one will accept it only as a failure.

BTW, official Mars information can be found here (www.pacifier.com/~cziller) and the forum here (http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?).
Is that a officail map of Mars?

Also is it possible for us to get our name up there? I noticed a small space up in the most left upper corner. It is next to Menelmacari Carnil, is it possible for us to get our name there please?
Grays Hill
31-12-2003, 03:27
We would like to help you. And we would also like to set up a colony on mars. :lol:
Wazzu
31-12-2003, 03:28
OOC: The terraforming of Mars is an ongoing, long-term RP. If you do this, and we (Martian nations) accept it, it would destroy that RP.

I for one will accept it only as a failure.

BTW, official Mars information can be found here (www.pacifier.com/~cziller) and the forum here (http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?).
Is that a officail map of Mars?

Also is it possible for us to get our name up there? I noticed a small space up in the most left upper corner. It is next to Menelmacari Carnil, is it possible for us to get our name there please?

OOC: You will need to talk to Eniqcir (who controls the land) and Kajal (who makes/updates the map). I don't have any direct control over it.
imported_Eniqcir
31-12-2003, 03:34
Is that a officail map of Mars?
Semi-official. There are a few errors. Among the more glaring ones *ahem, kajal* Kekkosmaa and Bajon are show as owning territory that they never officially purchased, and in one case restricted territory.

Also is it possible for us to get our name up there? I noticed a small space up in the most left upper corner. It is next to Menelmacari Carnil, is it possible for us to get our name there please?
Not all of it, 'tis restricted territory. But some could be sold. Will require RP of the deal, though.
Norahc
31-12-2003, 03:39
Norahc offers to pledge it's support to your cause for building an atmosphere on Mars. We will pledge a defence force to defend your project in case anyone has any objections about the atmosphere. The defence force will be made up of: 3 Regiments of Imperial Norahc Infantry, 1 Norahc Armoured Regiment and 1 Star destroyer with a full complement of TIE fighters.
This force will be under the command of Major General Rowak Setayë.
I will also send a contingent of scientists to help.
Falastur
31-12-2003, 04:06
OOC I took a look at that map, and noticed that the one free space remaining is a large black patch that I am not quite sure what to make of. Is it habitable? Or is it really just a large hole in the ground? It doesn't seem to be claimed, so with the permission of those living on Mars, (probably via the forum you linked) if it is habitable at all, I may like to claim it. That, or do the honourable thing and join up with Nano soft and the other guy(s) helping him, and claim it together.
imported_Eniqcir
31-12-2003, 04:56
OOC I took a look at that map, and noticed that the one free space remaining is a large black patch that I am not quite sure what to make of. Is it habitable?

Can you be more specific? Where it is, what it's called?
If you mean the center of Mare Hellas, last I checked it was a Maritime DMZ.

FEI- You don't need to build an atmosphere. It's already been/being done.

Atmospheric conditions are as follws:
Composition: 65.5% Nitrogen, 28% Oxygen, 2.3% Ozone, 2.2% CO2, .3% methane, 1.7% trace gases including ammonia, assorted chloroflourocarbons, and other greenhouse gasses.

Equator (at datum): 450mB; 285K Aphelion, 292K Perihelion
North Pole: 455mB; 258K Winter, 265K Summer
South Pole: 310mB; 230K Winter, 264K Summer

And it'll go a lot better when the fighting stops and the tankers from Venus can finally get in again.
Nano soft
31-12-2003, 05:53
And it'll go a lot better when the fighting stops and the tankers from Venus can finally get in again.
What fighting? If its towards what we have also started we can commit ships to the cause. Just give me a thread.

EDIT the atmosphere has already been built? Oh ok then, so there is water and everything? But accroding to that map I saw it looks like place that are owed are on water. :?
imported_Eniqcir
31-12-2003, 06:16
Trust me, you do not want to get involved in the Mars Wars.

There are semi-salty seas and an ocean, and several unmarked rivers. (Unmarked on the official map, that is. I kinda hafta know where they are myself.) Most of the south lacks 'natural' water access, though, since the Noachian, Cimmerian, Sirenian, and Aonian watersheds are incomplete. Every place except central Noachia has access to water via the Global Aquaduct Network.
Nano soft
31-12-2003, 06:19
Can I atleast have a thread link for it please?

In the map on the link way above is that only part of Mars? It looks like its more like the north part of Mars.
31-12-2003, 08:40
We would like to pledge 1 billion in support of the Project.

We would also like to have an embassy. Our Ambassador, King Alaric of Xeraph, will be the Envoy to the other Embassies once they are established.

Respectfully,

Lord Tanith, Emperor of the Holy Empire of the Knghts of Hell
Austar Union
31-12-2003, 08:41
I would donate, but I dont have any interests on Mars as yet.
Sunset
31-12-2003, 09:14
Just a note for those interested in a settlement on Mars:

Sunset has at last count 16 empty arcologies on it's various borders due to population contraction because of a low birth rate. These arcologies hold from 1-5 million sentients and are avaliable for purchase from their controlling corporations. Joint purchase is possible - typical costs are in the range of 80,000 di-coins per sentient.

All are ready for use and have a large feature list.

Artifical Gravity (.8-1.0), Fusion Plant, Green Spaces, Waste Recycling, Residential-Commercial-Industrial Zones, Full Global Mag-Lev Access, Spaceport, Outside Projection Ceiling, Defensive Construction, and Many More.

Avaliable Arcologies are as follows:

3~1 Million, 2~3 Million - Eniqcir Border
1~2 Million - Menelmacar Border
4~1 Million, 3~2 Million, 1~5 Million - Melkor Border
1~3 Million - Kekkosmaa Border

There are many benefits to purchasing instead of building your own.

Sunset has been building them for over 300 years - no worries about improper construction.

A Sunset location gives access to the markets of over 20 billion Sentients and arguable the largest single market on the planet.

Mars is growing faster than ever and investment is flocking to Mars as well. Dozens of nations have trade assets around or on Mars. Competition may be fierce but the opportunity for profit is emmense. Specialist and niche product manufacturers find Mars to be a very attractive location.

Senator Lopez,
Trade Chairman,
Sunset

OOC: Yes, he was in marketting.
Falastur
31-12-2003, 21:38
OOC I took a look at that map, and noticed that the one free space remaining is a large black patch that I am not quite sure what to make of. Is it habitable?

Can you be more specific? Where it is, what it's called?
If you mean the center of Mare Hellas, last I checked it was a Maritime DMZ.

Sorry, my mistake. I mean the area bottom right of the map. Mangala is above it, the Vascilian League is below it, and United Indiastan, Aelosia and Mizar 3 are to its East and West. And I couldn't find "Mare Hellas" on that map, so I will just await your reply....
imported_Eniqcir
31-12-2003, 22:17
Yup, that's Mare Hellas. 'Tis probably still a demilitarized zone, and you'll have to talk to Mangala and Auman about setting up a colony there.
Sunset
31-12-2003, 22:17
OOC I took a look at that map, and noticed that the one free space remaining is a large black patch that I am not quite sure what to make of. Is it habitable?

Can you be more specific? Where it is, what it's called?
If you mean the center of Mare Hellas, last I checked it was a Maritime DMZ.

Sorry, my mistake. I mean the area bottom right of the map. Mangala is above it, the Vascilian League is below it, and United Indiastan, Aelosia and Mizar 3 are to its East and West. And I couldn't find "Mare Hellas" on that map, so I will just await your reply....

That would be it - the area is not officially closed to colonization but there is a desire to keep it open as a landing area for neutral trade craft and as a buffer between the regional powers. If you want it I would consult with your potential neighbors at the very least, and perhaps consider only a partial settlement.
Nano soft
03-01-2004, 04:56
BUMP
Auman
06-01-2004, 10:21
OOC: The terraforming of Mars is an ongoing, long-term RP. If you do this, and we (Martian nations) accept it, it would destroy that RP.

I for one will accept it only as a failure.

BTW, official Mars information can be found here (www.pacifier.com/~cziller) and the forum here (http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?).
Is that a officail map of Mars?

Also is it possible for us to get our name up there? I noticed a small space up in the most left upper corner. It is next to Menelmacari Carnil, is it possible for us to get our name there please?

We in the Vascilian League can do you one better comrade! We'll allow you to build your colony in our territory, for economic concessions of course. If you agree we will allow you a small section of territory on the Hellas Basin, which is a prime trading location on Mars, as you will not only have access to the bountiful markets of the Vascilian league, but the rest of Mars via the Mangalan Canal...all we ask in exchange is cheaper goods and services from your great corporation.
Nano soft
09-01-2004, 03:18
OOC: The terraforming of Mars is an ongoing, long-term RP. If you do this, and we (Martian nations) accept it, it would destroy that RP.

I for one will accept it only as a failure.

BTW, official Mars information can be found here (www.pacifier.com/~cziller) and the forum here (http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?).
Is that a officail map of Mars?

Also is it possible for us to get our name up there? I noticed a small space up in the most left upper corner. It is next to Menelmacari Carnil, is it possible for us to get our name there please?
We in the Vascilian League can do you one better comrade! We'll allow you to build your colony in our territory, for economic concessions of course. If you agree we will allow you a small section of territory on the Hellas Basin, which is a prime trading location on Mars, as you will not only have access to the bountiful markets of the Vascilian league, but the rest of Mars via the Mangalan Canal...all we ask in exchange is cheaper goods and services from your great corporation.
I am going have to decline your offer. I am sorry but we already have mining colony in south Mars(not listed on the web page, only has the north half of mars), also if we needed a colony we would go to Green Mars because I am the delegate of Corporate Islands and the founder is Resi who created Green Mars. Also did you not read the part of me strting a huge city on Mars? I think that you should get from that, that I have land. Its called common sense. but thank you any ways.
imported_Eniqcir
09-01-2004, 04:35
(not listed on the web page, only has the north half of mars)
OOC: What gives you that idea? The semi-official map goes from north pole to south pole, and a full 360 degrees of longitude.
Phyrric
09-01-2004, 04:44
I will go along with what Eniqcir suggests, if s/he says no, that is my vote. Consider it a proxy.

Yes, I am there too as a colony and have been for a long time, just has not been a terrible success due to the longstanding Martian Wars that have never affected me...yet.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86125

I am making adjustments and improvements
09-01-2004, 05:17
We'd like to donate 20 billion to the project...

Also, we have an interest in interplanetary exploration. Please consider us a long-term investor.
The Emperor Fenix
09-01-2004, 19:42
why have one Cython (see nation military cpabilitys) that is free for long distance mass personel transport. The Emperor Fenix is quite willing to lend it, under strict observation of course
Nano soft
14-01-2004, 03:01
(not listed on the web page, only has the north half of mars)
OOC: What gives you that idea? The semi-official map goes from north pole to south pole, and a full 360 degrees of longitude.
OOC: Because I looked for maps of Mars on google and according to those that so called map you have on that link is only half of Mars. So I will stand by my comment.
IC:
Rather Convenient save you money, The Free Corporation of Nano Soft is now taking no donations but from allies or much much older nations.

Emperor Fenix we trust no one but our self and allies with the transportionof our own people. Plus we have much more effective wys of transport and we have already transported most of the people.
imported_Eniqcir
14-01-2004, 03:37
OOC: Because I looked for maps of Mars on google and according to those that so called map you have on that link is only half of Mars. So I will stand by my comment.
Please direct me to your sources. As far as I know, it's impossible to go any further south than the south pole, which is on the map, and likewise for north.
Sunset
14-01-2004, 04:02
OOC: The original graphics for the map come from here. As the long time Mars mapper (Kajal took over about 1 month ago) I can assure you I've used and seen enough different maps to know that all the proper features are there and that the current map goes from pole to pole.

http://www.space-graphics.com/bluemars.htm
Auman
14-01-2004, 05:20
Yup, that's Mare Hellas. 'Tis probably still a demilitarized zone, and you'll have to talk to Mangala and Auman about setting up a colony there.

I wouldn't have a problem with it, we've had problems with smugglers and pirates in the area. If a nation were to claim the land and bring order to it, we'd appreciate it. Though Mangala tends to want "Green Spaces" around for political reasons...you'll have to discuss the appropriation with that nation.
Cartoria
14-01-2004, 05:24
whow. so ya know i've been minin through mars surface for a few years(game wise). the mining will be done soon but most of the useful minerals will be gone
Phyrric
14-01-2004, 05:32
OOC: The terraforming of Mars is an ongoing, long-term RP. If you do this, and we (Martian nations) accept it, it would destroy that RP.

I for one will accept it only as a failure.

BTW, official Mars information can be found here (www.pacifier.com/~cziller) and the forum here (http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?).
Is that a officail map of Mars?

Also is it possible for us to get our name up there? I noticed a small space up in the most left upper corner. It is next to Menelmacari Carnil, is it possible for us to get our name there please?

We in the Vascilian League can do you one better comrade! We'll allow you to build your colony in our territory, for economic concessions of course. If you agree we will allow you a small section of territory on the Hellas Basin, which is a prime trading location on Mars, as you will not only have access to the bountiful markets of the Vascilian league, but the rest of Mars via the Mangalan Canal...all we ask in exchange is cheaper goods and services from your great corporation.

I did look at that map and from the description I have given Eniqcir from a prior thread (Melkor invading Mars) that my colony that is present is near the border of Eniqcir and Menelmacar, North of Sunset. Interesting to know.
Sunset
14-01-2004, 06:01
whow. so ya know i've been minin through mars surface for a few years(game wise). the mining will be done soon but most of the useful minerals will be gone

Congradulations - you and 100 other space nations. Declaring such a thing is a great way to get yourself ignored by those who have been on-planet for over a year now and don't take kindly to people trying to tell them what is happening to their homes.
Phyrric
14-01-2004, 06:17
whow. so ya know i've been minin through mars surface for a few years(game wise). the mining will be done soon but most of the useful minerals will be gone

Congradulations - you and 100 other space nations. Declaring such a thing is a great way to get yourself ignored by those who have been on-planet for over a year now and don't take kindly to people trying to tell them what is happening to their homes.

Sunset, for info, here are threads I have done and one contains the location of the colony. In NS years, Phyrric has been present for almost 100. They have been seen and responses made, this should not come as a surprise and be recognized as not to 'step on ones toes'.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86125&highlight=

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106028&highlight=

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82023&highlight=

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79075&highlight=
Sunset
14-01-2004, 06:25
OOC: I don't have a problem with small colonies or even large - I have a problem however with someone 'mining Mars bare' without doing a little research and realizing that Mars has been inhabited by nations since Nov of 2002.

There are likely dozens of small colonies all over Mars that are not on the map simply because they are either too small to reasonably mark or because their posts were missed for whatever reason. When we find them or they find us we try to work things out - and 99% of everyone has been reasonable about it. Small colonies are not just going to be wiped out of existance, but the big nations might surround them entirely (not a bad situation really).
Phyrric
14-01-2004, 06:33
Thanks for the acknowledgement. I was not looking for a placement on the map, but rather a recognition of presence. Being surrounded by Eniqcir, Menelmacar and yourself does bring a sense of comfort :wink:
Cartoria
14-01-2004, 06:42
whow. so ya know i've been minin through mars surface for a few years(game wise). the mining will be done soon but most of the useful minerals will be gone

Congradulations - you and 100 other space nations. Declaring such a thing is a great way to get yourself ignored by those who have been on-planet for over a year now and don't take kindly to people trying to tell them what is happening to their homes.



i metioned it in a thread a long time back when selling someone a mining ship i metioned that i would be working with them too. besides i only mined mainly in a small area
Cartoria
14-01-2004, 06:43
in this spot is where we'd like to have our cut of the land
Sunset
14-01-2004, 07:27
In what thread? If you don't have it some questions must be answered:
How many people are in this colony? Where is it on this map? Would you perhaps like to have a mining company inside an existing nation (somewhat easier)?

www.pacifier.com/~cziller/mapofmars.html
Cartoria
14-01-2004, 07:35
my mining colony was mainly just 25 engineers with a few androids. i'd have to see the map to point it out. we plain on terriforming a small area around it.
Cartoria
14-01-2004, 07:40
well it was around where Kaiser meets Kalessin. but i can take another area. i'd like as much room as i can get.
Sunset
14-01-2004, 07:42
Sorry - terraforming is nearly complete. If you want to mine, mineral rights are easy to purchase but there are few truely unclaimed bits of the planet left. Despite attempts to keep claims small...
Cartoria
14-01-2004, 14:02
i'll take whatever claims i can get