NationStates Jolt Archive


Vote to remove income tax.

Evansontoria
07-06-2006, 02:03
Help put the Proposals to "Make Income tax Illegal"

Here it is:

Description: 1. That income tax is a violation of personal right.

2. That income tax does not help a nation, but damaged it

3. Thus, all nations will stop the collection of income tax.

If you what to see this help. We can make Nationstates a better place.
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 02:05
Help put the Proposals to "Make Income tax Illegal"

Here it is:

Description: 1. That income tax is a violation of personal right.

2. That income tax does not help a nation, but damaged it

3. Thus, all nations will stop the collection of income tax.

If you what to see this help. We can make Nationstates a better place.

No, absolutely not. Although Cluichstan has no income tax whatsoever (and we like it that way), we recognise other nations' right to tax their citizens as they see fit.
Waterana
07-06-2006, 02:06
I believe this proposal is illegal because it contradicts a passed resolution that protects a nations right to decide its own tax affairs.

Representation in Taxation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9875424&postcount=129)
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 02:09
I believe this proposal is illegal because it contradicts a passed resolution that protects a nations right to decide its own tax affairs.

Representation in Taxation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9875424&postcount=129)

I was pretty sure that there was a resolution to that effect, but I just went with my gut with my response. ;)
Forgottenlands
07-06-2006, 02:33
Probably also gets dinged for Game mechanics violation since it tries to enforce something that's hardcoded into the game (it's much harder to control one's tax than it is to say "yes" to euthanasia). Probably also gets dinged for bloody stupid. Might even get dinged for Ideological ban.
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
07-06-2006, 06:10
Description: 1. That income tax is a violation of personal right.There are two things that everyone can look forward to 'death' and 'taxes' so why should we take one of those away from you.. Unless you want the other.

Also I'd like to know how taxes damage a nation. As how do you pay for things provided by the state with no funds coming in? There may be some problems with individual national tax systems but they all do what they are intended to do. Fund national functions. Remove them and watch nations fail because they can't protect themselves or their citizens.
Compadria
07-06-2006, 15:50
Help put the Proposals to "Make Income tax Illegal"

Here it is:

Description: 1. That income tax is a violation of personal right.

2. That income tax does not help a nation, but damaged it

3. Thus, all nations will stop the collection of income tax.

If you what to see this help. We can make Nationstates a better place.

A few questions for the honourable delegate:

1). What "personal right"?

2). Show me an example of where income tax has sufficiently damaged a nation to justify it being repealed.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.
Kivisto
07-06-2006, 22:39
Help put the Proposals to "Make Income tax Illegal"

Here it is:

Description: 1. That income tax is a violation of personal right.

Why? Waitaminnit...What? How?

2. That income tax does not help a nation, but damaged it

Giving the government money to spend on society as a whole is damaging? Uhhhh....ok?

3. Thus, all nations will stop the collection of income tax.

No. Really not. No chance in Hell. Somebody has got to pay for all the national defense systems.

If you what to see this help. We can make Nationstates a better place.

By bankrupting the governments?......If you say so.
Ariddia
07-06-2006, 22:59
Remove income taxes? Hell, no. That would utterly destroy our economy (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ariddian_economy). Go and mess up your own.


Christelle Zyryanov,
Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA


(OOC:Although Ariddia's economy is officially "moneyless", the UN notes quite correctly that there is a 100% tax rate. When a foreigner visits the country and uses a taxi or buys a loaf of bread, for example, that money is, in theory at least, sent by the taxi driver or the baker directly to the National Treasury.)
Quaon
07-06-2006, 23:51
Help put the Proposals to "Make Income tax Illegal"

Here it is:

Description: 1. That income tax is a violation of personal right.

2. That income tax does not help a nation, but damaged it

3. Thus, all nations will stop the collection of income tax.

If you what to see this help. We can make Nationstates a better place.No, just no.
Commonalitarianism
07-06-2006, 23:56
And what may replace it, taxation on consumption? Would you like a sales tax of 50%
Londim
08-06-2006, 00:03
Defiantley not. Many nations need tax to function. Paying for public services isn't cheap you know.
Apachah
08-06-2006, 00:23
Citizens of Apachah are taxed fairly and there haven't been any complaints yet. Another thing, my economy is fragile enough without introducing a ban on income tax! It's our right to tax our citizens as we see fit
Norderia
08-06-2006, 01:35
This proposal has been beat up on enough.



But that's not stopping me from taking shots at it too.

I have prepared a list of words that amply describe the response I have to this Proposal. It is as follows.

No.
Nein.
Non.
Não.
Nr.
Na.
Nahaz.
Nasa.
Nyet.

I would continue, were it not for concerns that the Representative would lose track of the purpose of a list that reaches a double-digit number of items.

That is all.

Tommo the Stout
Norderia, North Sea, blah blah blish.
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
08-06-2006, 02:18
And what may replace it, taxation on consumption? Would you like a sales tax of 50%Thank you that was what we were suppose to be working on a law to raise national sales taxes to 61%... Thank you.. Still we also impose an income tax on them also as it cost a lot to put all my wives in shoes and then there are those growing kids.. As it costs a lot to teach them what color the recyle bag is for coke cans and what color it is for paper items, then teach them about all the different sexes out there in this universe, as well as all those other issues folks think are important along with the basic riting, reeding, kounting things subjects.
The Most Glorious Hack
08-06-2006, 05:22
I think this poor, illegal Proposal has had enough.

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