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quit trying to repeal prostitution! work around it!

Hirota
05-02-2004, 10:33
<<The delegate for the Democratic States of Hirota takes the stand>>

Fellow delegates,

The Democratic states of Hirota were amongst those who voted against the proposal, and on paper would welcome any proposal that made it to the voting stage that would lead to the resolution being overturned entirely.

However, no matter how hard certain delegates try, it cannot be overturned. It's in the rules. Live with it.

So instead of trying to do something that simply cannot be done, work with the system. Look at the resolution:

As you are aware, there are citizens who get by in desperate times by selling their bodies in order to pay their bills and feed their children. Both men and women partake in this profession. If we legalized prostitution, people would be able to sell themselves to get by. In return, the government could use the money collected from taxes on prostitution income to support programs that help the poor. Prostitution is the oldest profession. Why must we make it a priority for law enforcement to monitor and arrest prostitutes when there are greater crimes out there?

Look at the weaknesses inherent in the resolution - it is poorly written and can easily be circumvented. It says that Member states cannot arrest prostitutes. It mentions nothing about those who would seek to gain from them - that is anyone who procures, entices or leads away by any means, a person for prostitution, even with that person's consent; anyone who knowingly keeps, manages or finances or takes part in the financing of a brothel; and knowingly lets or rents a building or other place for the purpose of prostitution, and also penalising customers who promote the demand for the prostitution of others.

We cannot arrest prostitutes, but we can arrest anyone who assists them, and anyone who makes use of them under the terms above.

Moreover, the resolution fails to address the problems of avoiding the poor getting into prostitution in the first place. The Hirotan social services have taken steps to provide prostitutes with Educational programs and work to increase their economic opportunities and enhance their status and worth, Shelter and housing assistance and Voluntary and confidential counselling and medical services, particularly for prevention, and the treatment of sexually transmitted diseases, HIV and AIDS, and substance abuse. The Hirotan government does not tax on prositution to support the poor - A well founded welfare system already does more than enough to support the poor, and needs little additional funding to include afformentioned projects. Although the resolution allows member states to tax prostitution, it is not mandatory, and is exploitative in the eyes of the Hirotan Government.

Any nation which truly cares for the well being of it's poor and vulnerable would take similar steps. We hope that our methods can be adopted by other nations with equal success. We would also hope that any nation that could perceive issues with current Hirotan policy would contact us through the usual channels in order to improve best practice. We would hope that Hirotan policy could be extended to become a UN resolution, but we appreciate that member states should be allowed to govern themselves on this matter.

We also note how other ingenius member states have already passed local legislation to circumvent the resolution, and applaud them for their equally successful methods of restoring order.

Finally, we also hope that all member states will realise and consider that:
A) the fundamental weakness of most of the resolutions that have been passed already; how many can be worked around; and how many are effectively meaningless
B) the need for resolutions to be more closely scruitinised and balanced with the intention of benefiting member states; and improving the integrity of the United Nations as an organisation that can make practical decisions.

Clearly something has to be done to improve the process of submitting proposals and passing resolutions.

Fellow delegates, I thank you for your time.
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Gigglealia
05-02-2004, 10:39
tl;dr

Instead of waffling on, if you've a problem with the stupid decisions that the UN is making, join Moralia- http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/83029/page=display_region

Human traficking for sex slaves- ie prostitution- is not legal, regardless of what the pansies in the UN want to say.
05-02-2004, 10:51
Taking advantage of holes in proposals is an unfortunate consequence of hasty proposals.

Keeping with the spirit of the UN is as important as obeying the letter.

Illaria has legalized prostitution (but not encouraged it, it merely is no longer an offense)
Hirota
05-02-2004, 11:24
Taking advantage of holes in proposals is an unfortunate consequence of hasty proposals.

In which case it should not even have reached the stage where we have to consider it? Indeed, the prostitution resolution had breached the resolution regarding “Resolution Restrictions” as it failed to follow proper guidelines on how it should be worded, further highlighting how this resolution fails.

Keeping with the spirit of the UN is as important as obeying the letter.

True, but no member state should need to read between the lines, that's what makes the resolution such a failure, so ineffective and so open to misinterpretations (which I suspect it would not if it followed correct form). It should be clear and obvious as to the intentions of the resolution, and it should avoid being so inaccurate and vague

In addition, regarding the “spirit of the UN” although it has not been written down, clearly this legislation breaches the idea that member states are entitled to their own decisions regarding internal policies such as prostitution. Yet again another failure of this legislation.

The Hirotan government has broken absolutely no legislation made by the UN (regardless of if it is a perceived failure or not), and has (by bringing about aforementioned local legislation) affirmed the fundamental right that no person should be exploited by another (regardless of consent) which (in our opinion) should be supported by all UN members (although anticipating the majority of member states are far to short sighted to appreciate that).
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05-02-2004, 11:37
Illaria was not present nor able to influence this proposal, being a fairly new nation... sigh
Hirota
05-02-2004, 11:46
Illaria was not present nor able to influence this proposal, being a fairly new nation... sigh

hirota joined just before it was voted upon, although was little more than a vocal minor power trying to bring a semblance of reason to this largely ignorant organisation....but luckily can take steps to circumvent this resolution without breaking any UN laws.
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